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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lisa on December 09, 2007, 10:40:19 PM
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Hi Chaimfan,
Regarding why women in Biblical times were more rightwing and righteous than they are today, I thought I'd thrown my two cents in, being that I'm a woman.
In those days, women's main role was marrying and raising children, while their husbands worked outside the home. Now, thanks to feminism, women have had it drilled into their heads that they don't need a man to be happy, that they are wasting their brains, education, and their potential by being full time mothers, and finally, in Gloria Steinem's words, "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.
Then there are women who follow this line of thinking who are divorced with children. Since they usually get custody of the children, and they are working full time, they tend to be the most vocal in pushing for government day care, mandatory maternity leave regardless of whether or not the employer can afford it, and finally abortions. Remember, one of feminism main mantras is that women should be able to fornicate without consequences just like men, which is why they are pro abortion.
So in a nutshell, more married women with children are right leaning/right wing, as opposed to their single counterparts, who want the government to act as their husbands/nannies.
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Hello Lisa,
Thanks for that righteous opinion of yours. :)
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Very excellent answer Lisa
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good answer. O0
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Should a woman not have the right and option to have careers, pursue an education, reach their potential, not have children if they do not want any, and be independent?
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The answer to your question, Mstislav is yes. But the problem I have with feminism is that it's really a left wing, collectivist movement for big government, that ignores differences between men and women. I'm fine with equal opportunities for women. But feminism takes it a big step too far when they push for equality of outcomes.
For example feminists will say it's because of sexism and discrimination against women that firefighters are mostly men. Never mind that most women can't carry a person weighing over a hundred pounds out of a burning building, feminists will still insist that the women have to be hired. They'll say something like "oh they can help on ground or drive the fire truck," etc.
Another example is police officers. There was a case about two years ago of a hardened black criminal being brought to trial. This 200 lb. 20-something year old man was escorted to the courtroom by a petite 110 lb. 60 something year old female court officer. The criminal managed to grab the gun out of the woman's holster, shoot her dead, and make his escape.
And finally there's the example of the military, where I've read of the various requirements being brought down to accomodate the women, in terms of how many pounds of weapons/gear they must carry, etc. Sure there will be a more equal representation of the sexes, but at what cost?
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You forgot to mention he also killed the judge, an innocent bystander, and an FBI agent when he went on the run.
Anyway, I don't agree that feminism is COMPLETELY bad, as I do believe women have the right to pursue the same lifestyle and careers as men (provided they are QUALIFIED for them), but obviously oppose welfare and (G-d forbid!) abortion.
How does selfish careerism explain how women tend to be more pro-criminal and pro-black than men?
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You forgot to mention he also killed the judge, an innocent bystander, and an FBI agent when he went on the run.
Anyway, I don't agree that feminism is COMPLETELY bad, as I do believe women have the right to pursue the same lifestyle and careers as men (provided they are QUALIFIED for them), but obviously oppose welfare and (G-d forbid!) abortion.
How does selfish careerism explain how women tend to be more pro-criminal and pro-black than men?
Oops! My bad, C.F. You're right.
I don't agree that feminism is completely bad either. I am for women having the right to vote and having bank accounts/credit cards in their own name. And I am for women being able to have the same opportunities as men. We should be able to live our lives as we see fit, whether that entails a career or being a full time mother.
In terms why modern women are pro-criminal and pro-black, I think it's because the modern feminists keep pushing the myth that white men are the evil oppressors of the world, and that bad things done by blacks is because of the evil white racism and patriarchy.
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Should a woman not have the right and option to have careers, pursue an education, reach their potential, not have children if they do not want any, and be independent?
Exactly.
Being a good woman has nothing to do with if you are single or not, work or stay home.
Righteous women are in every level of society, always have been always will be.
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In regards to feminism, I support it as a political movement, but feminism should not extend to the synagogue