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Save Western Civilization => Save Serbia => Topic started by: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on December 14, 2007, 08:42:59 AM
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I have not heard a single reaction by Australian Serbs except Kapetan (Captain) Dragan.
It seems that Australia isn't scared of muzzies (yet) why aren't Serbs responding there?
Maybe I'm wrong but please someone just shed some light over here.
BTW FYI : Kapetan Dragan Vasijlkovic
(http://www.australianmacedonianweekly.com/edition/0967_17042007/aus_KapetanDragan.jpg)
Dragan Vasiljković, nicknamed Kapetan Dragan, was a founder and captain of the Serbian paramilitary unit called Knindže (Serbian: Knin/ninjas) or red berets, and was a golf instructor in Australia. He is accused of war crimes by the Republic of Croatia, and is currently being held in an Australian prison pending an appeal against the successful extradition application by the Croatian Government in a Sydney court. His grounds of defense are that as a Serbian Captain, he believes that he would be biased facing a Croatian Court and that no evidence of the allegations are required under the Extradition Act 1988 (House of Commons Extradition Requirements - Section 10) for an Australian citizen to be extradited.
In 1967 he went to Australia with his mother and two siblings under the name Daniel Snedden. After he finished high school in Melbourne he worked in a photo shop. He spent 4 years in the Australian Army's reserve unit 4th/19th Prince of Wales's Light Horse. After his military service, he served as a weapons instructor in Africa and South America. He was sailing around the world and stayed in Serbia in 1988 where he set up a boat and airplane charter business.
In 1991, war broke out and he believed that his army reserves training that he received in Australia could help improve the Serbian army. He served during the Croatian war of independence to the newly-created Republic of Serbian Krajina as a volunteer where he founded the special forces under the Ministry of the Interior of the Republic of Serbian Krajina. These special unit were called Knindže after the Krajina's capital of Knin and ninja fighters. During the war, he founded the Fond Kapetan Dragan aimed at helping victims of war. The foundation was the largest in the history of the Balkans, 67,000 victims of war received aid. In 1995 "Krajina" ceased to exist when Croatian forces took over the Serbian area during Operation Storm. After the defeat, Vasiljković returned to Perth, Western Australia.
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The Serbs where I live don't care, because they don't see Muslims as a risk to them.
Maybe in other parts of the country near Newman and others are different.
But Serb and Croats in my area don't fight.
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I have not heard a single reaction by Australian Serbs
The Australian Serbs organized in cooperation with other Serbs a special committee of elected lawyers and other experts who will provide help to Dragan Vasiljkovic and his case.
http://www.serbsforjustice.com/main/
www.medijskirat.com
(http://www.serbsforjustice.com/slike/piknik_adelaide_m.jpg)
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ZIVJEO KAPETAN DRAGAN !
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b301/masha123456/kepnatribini002.jpg)
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(http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/060105/hrv-dragan-txt.jpg)
STOP FALSE CROATIAN ACCUSATIONS.
STOP THE HUNT AGAINST THE SERBS.
NO MORE INNOCENT SERBS IN PRISON.
Free Dragan Vasiljkovic !
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ZIVJEO KAPETAN DRAGAN !
What does that mean. Please use English only in my section. Thank you .
DALMACIJA that newspaper what does that say?
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ZIVJEO KAPETAN DRAGAN !
What does that mean. .
It means long live Captain Dragan.
What does that mean. Please use English only in my section. Thank you .
DALMACIJA that newspaper what does that say?
I am sorry it is rude to use a strange language at an English speaking forum.
The newspapers writes about the preparation of the defense of Dragan Vasiljkovic and about the false charges from Croatia against him.
For English information about this subject go to
http://www.serbsforjustice.com/main/
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No worries DALMACIJA thank you for understanding. And thank you for the link.
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Daniel Snedden AKA Dragan Vasiljkovic
He is put in prison since 2005.
According to some accusations from Croatia the Australian news paper published some untruths about Dragan Vasiljkovic.
The Australian newspaper wrote:
- D. Vasiljkovic organized death units in Croatia and Bosnia in 1991.
His men participated in and organized rape.
There wasn't a war in Bosnia in 1991. The Yugoslav war started in 1991 in Croatia. The war in Bosnia started in 1992.
Even the Hague tribunal did not charged D. Vasiljkovic for anything.
There is no prove of the accusations against D. Vasiljkovic at all.
I know that you can not put a man in prison with out a trial and proves. According to the Australian law the media is not allowed to harm your reputation with untruths?
Does this also counts for the Serbs?
Is it allowed in Australia to published horrible lies about the Serbs, in a national newspaper? Why is a former Serbian commander jailed? Is there a healthy explanation?
Does this mean that the hunt against the Serbs is open worldwide?
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Vasiljkovic was wanted by Interpol under war crimes Act.
Australia doesn't deal with war crimes.
The International Criminal Court will hear the case.
http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2006/53/2006_1753.asp
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The Serbs (the youngsters moreso) here consider themselves "ethnics" and align themselved with the rest of the wogs like the greeks, italians and the rest. These groups usually align themselves with the muzzies because they all consider themselves to all be wogs persecuted by the anglo aussies. They still despise the croats however.
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I heard an interview with him and a croat. Kapetan Dragan always refer croatia as Fascist croatia and calls the croatian minister of justice(not sure what its called) a whore. Then the Dj says: "Sir you can't say that" and Dragan replies with "I have more proof of her being a whore than she has of me being a war criminal" hahahahha.
by the way here are some funny videos with him
Singing Oj Sosana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQoiDH2E32Y
Creation of the Knindje - Made them within two weeks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhcQMF7xwVg
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Sir you can't say that" and Dragan replies with "I have more proof of her being a whore than she has of me being a war criminal" hahahahha.
Hehe watch your language :::D
I know that interview at the Croatian radio from 2005.
It was between D. Vasiljkovic and a Croatian reporter.
Serbian Cetnik can you arrange that interview?
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Creation of the Knindje - Made them within two weeks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhcQMF7xwVg
The legandary Knindže the greatest special unit of whole Krajina.
They had some really good operations and were a serious problem to the Croatian fascist government.
Remember how they surrounded the Croatian police station in Glina in 1991.
How D. Vasiljkovic sent them to Zagreb and throw their flag down of the police station.
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Is there any point to this thread now? Its a Croat and Serb. If you wish to proclaim his position please do so in your own section.
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Has anyone claimed him being Croat?
But ok we will respect your section. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Has anyone claimed him being Croat?
But ok we will respect your section. Sorry for the inconvenience.
My statement was solely referring to the countries in question, not him personally.
There's no inconvenience.
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Why has this been moved here? and reopened.
Looks like there is little to no respect used here.
I see this solely as a move to bash and attack Australia. >:( >:(
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what?, i got PMs asking why it was closed. So i moved it to Save Serbia since Kapetan Dragan is Serb, but lives in Australia. And you thought we should close this thread. So in order to satisfy you all I moved it here and reopened it. There will be no Australia bashing.
Australia is one of the few countries I completely respect. So do not worry.
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So you moved the thread out of my section without asking me first.
No I don't trust you now.
You have lost my complete respect.
You could of just reopen another thread, about the man in question.
You have step well over your mark.
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Dear Infidel,
I never understood this thread
as an anti-Australian one.
Read the title:
it's "against" the Australian SERBS.
Serbian Cetnik was just asking
WHAT are THEY( Serbs) WAITING
for entering into juridic action
to free Kapetan dragan.
:) :) :)
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Husar I am sorry I am very angry and feel totally that the action was dishonest and not honourable.
There is more than one issue here.
And one I don't think I will not quickly forgive.
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I sincerely apologize, I feel as I didn't see the gravity of the situation. It will never happen again. I am sorry that you have lost trust and respect in me, It is a thing not easily earned and hopefully I can restore your trust and respect again. Once again I'm deeply sorry
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Why has this been moved here? and reopened.
Maybe he should asked first for your permission.
Because the topic was closed and locked by you at your subforum.
Looks like there is little to no respect used here.
Look a misunderstanding is always possible.
But lets solve it. We did not say anything bad toward the Australian nation and Australia in general.
We only judged those actions against D. Vasiljkovic which are committed by the Australian government. Dragan Vasiljkovic AKA Daniel Snedden was a special commander who served the Australian army for a long time. When he arrived in Krajina (Yugoslavia) he always talked good about Australia and considered Australia as his second homeland. I do not see anything bad against Australia at this topic?
@The Infidel,
Is there also a Russian community in Australia and how large is it?
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Dear Infidel,
I never understood this thread
as an anti-Australian one.
Read the title:
it's "against" the Australian SERBS.
Serbian Cetnik was just asking
WHAT are THEY( Serbs) WAITING
for entering into juridic action
to free Kapetan dragan.
:) :) :)
ok.
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Why has this been moved here? and reopened.
Maybe he should asked first for your permission.
Because the topic was closed and locked by you at your subforum.
Looks like there is little to no respect used here.
Look a misunderstanding is always possible.
But lets solve it. We did not say anything bad toward the Australian nation and Australia in general.
We only judged those actions against D. Vasiljkovic which are committed by the Australian government. Dragan Vasiljkovic AKA Daniel Snedden was a special commander who served the Australian army for a long time. When he arrived in Krajina (Yugoslavia) he always talked good about Australia and considered Australia as his second homeland. I do not see anything bad against Australia at this topic?
@The Infidel,
Is there also a Russian community in Australia and how large is it?
Maybe asked?
Why the hell should I answer anything now as YACOV said it is your thread!
True Googling for the answer! IF you want to know about Australia.
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The Infidel,
do you now have anything
against the Serbs ?
??? ??? ???
This site is pro-american, yet,
you can find hundreds of posts
criticizing american politics,
WHEN they are not good.
8;)
IF that EVEN was
the intention of Serbian Cetnik,
that doesn't mean you have to
be agressive against us, Serbs.
We Serbs NEVER attacked you.
8;)
When Serbia has bad politics
(concerning Serbian Defense),
critics are welcomed,
when Israel has bad politics
(concerning Israelian defense),
critics are welcomed.
;)
Why should anything be different
concerning some Australian politics,
especially when they tend to be anti-Serbian,
like in the case of Captain Dragan ?
???
Serbian Cetnik's thread?
It was a question/topic
about the Australian Serbs,
FIRST.
Then, secondarily, it was a question
about the Australian government
working at an anti-Serbian agenda,
seemingly, at least.
8)
Re-read well...
You got upset...well,
Serbian Cetnik apologized.
:)
I tried to calm you down,
a tiny little bit, and you know
it's a great effort for me,
since it doesn't correspond
to my nature...
;)
You had DALMACIJA also,
writing a post, friendly,
and you seem to be angry
towards him too...
???
I guess I will be
on your anger-list too,
now, if not already...
:)
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Angry at you Serbs no, Husar I am not.
I have forgiven Serbian Cetnik for his total disrespect, But I shall never forget it.
But the support I have given in the past, is solely that, in the past.
Everything now is past tenses.
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True Googling for the answer! IF you want to know about Australia.
If people ask me something about the Serbs or Serbia I always try to provide a serious answer.
You have no right to be angry at me at al.
But it is still your own choice.
You are giving us a bad feeling.
Like we did something terrible against the Australian sub forum?
We did nothing bad toward your forum or said something against your nation.
You still did not provide us a example where we were attacking you like you claim we did.
If you though that the purpose of the opening of this topic had bad intentions against your subforum than you are wrong. Read the content again and lets talk like serious people about this misunderstanding.
We share here the same opinion and the same interests. There is no reason for arguing, believe me :)
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Where did I say I was angry at you?
And quite honestly if you believe in taking things that are in someones elses keeping, without asking is correct then really there is no point to this.
Its about respect, or the complete lack of it.
You do as you wish, I will do as I wish.
I think my thoughts on the reopening of this thread is quite correct in my assessment.
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Where did I say I was angry at you?
Your reaction to my question about the Russian community, but never mind it is not important.
You know this internet talk is so impersonal so you can easily misunderstand each other.
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I think my thoughts on the reopening of this thread is quite correct in my assessment.
But what was so bad about this topic?
Why did you closed the topic in the first place ?
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I think my thoughts on the reopening of this thread is quite correct in my assessment.
But what was so bad about this topic?
Why did you closed the topic in the first place ?
I closed it because it had run its course, Australia arrested a person that Interpol requested, and that was it ICC is the place where Guilt or Innocence is ruled apon.
Serbs in Australia ARE AUSTRALIAN. Any bashing of these Serbs is a direct attack on the Australian people.
They are good people, respected, they have honor.
This person in question, his past has nothing to do with Australia.
Australia up held its international treaty.
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I kinda figured that, but I opened the thread again since Me and Dalmacija lived near Knin, I actually was born in Knin. We could discuss Serb to Serb, Jew to Serb about his actions, Not the case in Australia.
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Then open a new thread on this man, instead you leave this open for others to use it against Australia if they wished. If you had talked to me first about my reasons of locking it, you would of avoided this.
Now I have to keep watching this thread all the time :-\
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Serbs in Australia ARE AUSTRALIAN. Any bashing of these Serbs is a direct attack on the Australian people.
This topic was not opened to attack the Australian Serbs.
The starter of the topic can confirm that.
Serbian Cetnik was critical against the Australian Serbs because he thought that they did not response against the false accusations against Dragan Vasiljkovic. He shouldn’t be critical at all because the Australian Serbs did everything what’s possible to provide help to Dragan. V.
Attacking someone is not the same as being critical.
That are two different things.
Your first messages on this topic were not giving a signal of disagreeing with the content? You started suddenly after certain messages to annoy your self because of the content of the topic.
I do not think that bashing the Serbs is the problem of this topic.
I do not see any bashing of the Australian Serbs? I am sure that Serbian Cetnik’s intentions had nothing to do with bashing the Australian Serbs.
Have a nice day everybody...
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I've told you already Infidel. I won't allow any bashing here. So ease back and relax
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I've told you already Infidel. I won't allow any bashing here. So ease back and relax
Like you mod the rest of your forum?
I don't think so.
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Serbs in Australia ARE AUSTRALIAN. Any bashing of these Serbs is a direct attack on the Australian people.
This topic was not opened to attack the Australian Serbs.
The starter of the topic can confirm that.
Serbian Cetnik was critical against the Australian Serbs because he thought that they did not response against the false accusations against Dragan Vasiljkovic. He shouldn’t be critical at all because the Australian Serbs did everything what’s possible to provide help to Dragan. V.
Attacking someone is not the same as being critical.
That are two different things.
Your first messages on this topic were not giving a signal of disagreeing with the content? You started suddenly after certain messages to annoy your self because of the content of the topic.
I do not think that bashing the Serbs is the problem of this topic.
I do not see any bashing of the Australian Serbs? I am sure that Serbian Cetnik’s intentions had nothing to do with bashing the Australian Serbs.
Have a nice day everybody...
Firstly I was seeing were the thread was heading before I did anything about it, and secondly what I decide what is bashing is my own opinion thank you.
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I decide what is bashing is my own opinion thank you.
Like you have said it is your opinion!
That is your impression!
Closing topics must be based on facts not on opinions.
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Like you mod the rest of your forum?
I don't think so.
What are you trying to say?
His is not able to control his own subforum? ? ?
Is this relevant / important?
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I decide what is bashing is my own opinion thank you.
Like you have said it is your opinion!
That is your impression!
Closing topics must be based on facts not on opinions.
The fact is some can't be trusted hence the topic was closed.
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Like you mod the rest of your forum?
I don't think so.
What are you trying to say?
His is not able to control his own subforum? ? ?
Is this relevant / important?
Its about staying on your own side of the fence.
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You have got to be kidding me, I've been nothing but nice with you except the missstep which I still don't understand.
But then you call me incompetent? The reason those dozen croats were able to mayhem my subforum was because the ADMINS didn't listen to quickly. I'm just a MOD. Second, how can you be a mod on a Anti-Islamofascism right wing site and be afraid of little bashing or confrontation. Isuse boze (Jesus)
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I really don't like this fighting. It's really wrong. It's really bothers me and it bothers others in the forum. I can't tell you how many complaints I get about someone being insulting in the forum. Geez... you should really listen to yourselves. Calm down. This fighting is contagious and it's time to put egos aside and have some patience with each other. Let's be responsible.
We need to strive for unity. Any person who is successful at any business or organization will tell you that unity is one of the most important factor in success. Is JTF important or is fighting more important? There's a way to disagree with one another without insulting each other.
I like all of you in here and let's focus on fighting the muslims and evil people. The Torah says to be kind to each other.
I would also like to state that other languages are allowed (i.e. Hebrew is welcomed) in the forum within reason. But this doesn't mean saying a bunch of really ugly stuff in another language because you know you won't get caught.
This is a religious forum. Don't forget that.
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I understand all this, I will not take this any further. Btw my men never swear when its semi-formal;)
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i agree with Shlomo ..
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I must go to the toilets....
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I must go to the toilets....
easy with the rakijaaaa....
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I must go to the toilets....
easy with the rakijaaaa....
;D ;D ;D
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I must go to the toilets....
:::D now the world knows your bodily functions :::D :::D
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I must go to the toilets....
:::D now the world knows your bodily functions :::D :::D
Writing this made me smile.
;D ;D ;D.
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I really don't like this fighting. It's really wrong. It's really bothers me and it bothers others in the forum. I can't tell you how many complaints I get about someone being insulting in the forum. Geez... you should really listen to yourselves. Calm down. This fighting is contagious and it's time to put egos aside and have some patience with each other. Let's be responsible.
We need to strive for unity. Any person who is successful at any business or organization will tell you that unity is one of the most important factor in success. Is JTF important or is fighting more important? There's a way to disagree with one another without insulting each other.
I like all of you in here and let's focus on fighting the muslims and evil people. The Torah says to be kind to each other.
I would also like to state that other languages are allowed (i.e. Hebrew is welcomed) in the forum within reason. But this doesn't mean saying a bunch of really ugly stuff in another language because you know you won't get caught.
This is a religious forum. Don't forget that.
Totally agree.
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I really don't like this fighting. It's really wrong. It's really bothers me and it bothers others in the forum. I can't tell you how many complaints I get about someone being insulting in the forum. Geez... you should really listen to yourselves. Calm down. This fighting is contagious and it's time to put egos aside and have some patience with each other. Let's be responsible.
We need to strive for unity. Any person who is successful at any business or organization will tell you that unity is one of the most important factor in success. Is JTF important or is fighting more important? There's a way to disagree with one another without insulting each other.
I like all of you in here and let's focus on fighting the muslims and evil people. The Torah says to be kind to each other.
I would also like to state that other languages are allowed (i.e. Hebrew is welcomed) in the forum within reason. But this doesn't mean saying a bunch of really ugly stuff in another language because you know you won't get caught.
This is a religious forum. Don't forget that.
Totally agree.
NONE of us was "fighting"...
JUST defending positions.
:)
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I must go to the toilets....
:::D now the world knows your bodily functions :::D :::D
Writing this made me smile.
;D ;D ;D.
Yes I laughed when reading it ;)
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I really don't like this fighting. It's really wrong. It's really bothers me and it bothers others in the forum. I can't tell you how many complaints I get about someone being insulting in the forum. Geez... you should really listen to yourselves. Calm down. This fighting is contagious and it's time to put egos aside and have some patience with each other. Let's be responsible.
We need to strive for unity. Any person who is successful at any business or organization will tell you that unity is one of the most important factor in success. Is JTF important or is fighting more important? There's a way to disagree with one another without insulting each other.
I like all of you in here and let's focus on fighting the muslims and evil people. The Torah says to be kind to each other.
I would also like to state that other languages are allowed (i.e. Hebrew is welcomed) in the forum within reason. But this doesn't mean saying a bunch of really ugly stuff in another language because you know you won't get caught.
This is a religious forum. Don't forget that.
Totally agree.
NONE of us was "fighting"...
JUST defending positions.
:)
Just debating 8;)
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That's it.
;)
oOOoohHhh...I must go again !!!
;D ;D ;D
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Not again ::) :::D
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;D ;D ;D
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;D
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Serbs in Australia ARE AUSTRALIAN. Any bashing of these Serbs is a direct attack on the Australian people.
The Croats in Australia are Australian too, shall we not attack these offpsring of ustashe swine? The Croat Australians are some of the most vicious people on the planet, attacking them is NOT an attack on Australia. Excrement > Australian Croats. Ditto for "Australian" muslims.
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Serbs in Australia ARE AUSTRALIAN. Any bashing of these Serbs is a direct attack on the Australian people.
The Croats in Australia are Australian too, shall we not attack these offpsring of ustashe swine? The Croat Australians are some of the most vicious people on the planet, attacking them is NOT an attack on Australia. Excrement > Australian Croats. Ditto for "Australian" muslims.
I said Australian Serbs are Australian, nothing about Croats, they are just Croats nothing more, they don't give a damn about Australia, they are not AUSTRALIAN!
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Serbs in Australia ARE AUSTRALIAN. Any bashing of these Serbs is a direct attack on the Australian people.
The Croats in Australia are Australian too, shall we not attack these offpsring of ustashe swine? The Croat Australians are some of the most vicious people on the planet, attacking them is NOT an attack on Australia. Excrement > Australian Croats. Ditto for "Australian" muslims.
You're SO right, AussieJTFer.
NOT everybody living in Australia is a Saint,
far (so very f....g far from that).
;)
And Skippy is just showing, post after post,
that she LOVES her Australian Serbs so much.
You're a great Person, Skippy,
thank you for taking Australian Serbs
under your protecting wing.
You love Australia and its inhabitants you estimate valuable
(the Serbs being among them), just as we love Serbia.
O0 O0 O0
And yes: NAZICROATS are NOTHING else than NAZICROATS,
breeding with mudjahedins, "neo"-nazis and such monsters....
No worth (who could ever think about it) any other Nationality than their false one.
8)
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Long live Australia and the Serbs O0 O0 O0 O0
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And yes: NAZICROATS are NOTHING else than NAZICROATS,
breeding with mudjahedins, "neo"-nazis and such monsters....
No worth (who could ever think about it) any other Nationality than their false one.
Exactly right Husar they are here falsely, they benefit from our country and just suck it dry like the parasites they are.
They are wannabes, and will never be Australian 8;)
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Long live Australia and the Serbs O0 O0 O0 O0
You are a good man JTFFan O0
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And yes: NAZICROATS are NOTHING else than NAZICROATS,
breeding with mudjahedins, "neo"-nazis and such monsters....
No worth (who could ever think about it) any other Nationality than their false one.
Exactly right Husar they are here falsely, they benefit from our country and just suck it dry like the parasites they are.
They are wannabes, and will never be Australian 8;)
Here, in Europe,
NAZICROATS dared claiming €€€
for some kind of "reparation" concerning soccer game....
They're ashamed of just nothing.
It became proverbial in Serbia,
that NAZICROATS aren't ashamed of anything.
Anybody can verify this Serbian proverb,
by just having a tiny look at their "videos"
on youtube, for instance...
They're sheer evil.