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The Asian Auschwitz of Unit 731
August 29 2002
After releasing plague bacilli in the Chinese city of Yiwu, Unit 731 extracted the bacilli from patients' internal organs.
It was a secret Japanese military unit that used Chinese prisoners for gruesome medical experiments. Years later, Japanese authorities are still in denial. Shane Green reports.
The noise was like the sound when a board is struck. On the frozen fields at Ping Fang, in north-east China, chained prisoners were led out with bare arms, and subjected to a current of air to accelerate the freezing process. Then came the noise. With a short stick, the arms of the prisoners would be struck to make sure their limbs had indeed frozen.
In the gruesome world of Unit 731 of the Japanese Imperial Army, experiments with frostbite on human subjects became a favourite in a macabre litany of cruelty. Throughout the 1930s and '40s, until the end of World War II, the secret unit used Manchuria as a killing field. It was a case of science gone truly mad for the greater glory of the divine Emperor and Japan.
Apart from the frostbite experiments, prisoners were infected with diseases including anthrax, cholera and the bubonic plague. To gather data, human vivisections were performed. Whole villages and towns were infected with the plague and cholera.
In the end, at least 3000 prisoners, mainly Chinese, were killed directly, with a further 250,000 Chinese left to die through the biological warfare experiments.
It is called the Asian Auschwitz and, in terms of inhumanity and horror, it certainly warrants this description. Yet there remains a fundamental difference with the crimes perpetrated by the Nazis against Jews. While Germany has shown deep contrition and remorse, the leaders of the country that spawned the evil of Unit 731 still struggle to come to grips with what occurred.
This week in a Tokyo court, the world was again reminded of Japan's inability to deal with its march across Asia. In courtroom 103, three judges of the Tokyo District Court rejected a claim for an apology and compensation by 180 Chinese, either victims or the family of victims of Unit 731.
If there was anything positive out of the decision for the Chinese, it was that for the first time, a Japanese court had acknowledged that Unit 731 and other units had engaged in "cruel and inhumane" biological warfare in China, costing many lives.
But that was it. The judges claimed there was no legal basis for the plaintiffs' claim, as all compensation issues were settled by a treaty with China in 1972.
While it had an authoritative legal ring to it, there was a deep sense of injustice around the courtroom and among supporters waiting outside. How could a court acknowledge a crime had been committed, yet fail to do anything about it?
The Chinese are planning to appeal, but regardless of what may come out of that, one positive factor to emerge from this case has been that the international community - and, indeed, the Japanese themselves - has been reminded of one of the darkest hours of the Japanese Imperial Army.
Unit 731 was the creation of a brutal psychopath, Lieutenant-General Ishii Shiro. His perverted imagination was captured by the possibilities of biological and chemical warfare, and in the Japan of the 1920s and '30s, he found supporters in the increasingly nationalistic and fanatical military.
Part of his fame came from the invention of a water filter that would be used by the Japanese military in the field. Yet even this innocuous invention had a connection with the grossness of Ishii's character. He once reportedly demonstrated the effectiveness of the filter to Emperor Hirohito by urinating through it, and offering the result to the Hirohito to drink. The Emperor declined, so Ishii drank it himself.
Water purification was also to have a link with the grisly activities of Unit 731. The official cover name for the unit was the Water Purification Bureau.
This latest court case, which began in 1997, has revealed much about the operations of the unit. One of the most harrowing testimonies has come from a former member of the unit, Yoshio Shinozuka, who has declared his remorse, and has vowed to tell the truth about the atrocities committed in China.
Shinozuka revealed in horrific detail what occurred at the unit headquarters in Ping Fang, just outside Harbin in northern China. The Chinese victims were known as "logs", and it was Shinozuka's job to scrub them down before the vivisection.
"I still remember clearly the first live autopsy I participated in," he recalled. "I knew the Chinese individual we dissected alive because I had taken his blood once before for testing. At the vivisection, I could not meet his eyes because of the hate he had in his glare at me."
The victim had been infected with the plague, and was totally black. Shinozuka was reluctant to use the brush on the man's face. "Watching me, the chief pathologist, with scalpel in hand, impatiently signalled me to hurry up," he recalled. "I closed my eyes and forced myself to scrub the man's face with the deck brush. The chief pathologist listened to the man's heartbeat with his stethoscope and then the procedure started."
The case before the Tokyo court also heard from the victims, and family of the victims, in villages and towns infected by the plague and cholera between 1940 and 1942.
Peize Xue was a young boy in Jiangshan when the Japanese infected the area with cholera. He recalled how his sister's three children had been struck down: "The three little ones died such tragic deaths. They were poisoned by the Japanese army," she sobbed. "Before Shuanglan (aged eight) passed away, she asked me, lying limply on her bed, to build a small casket for her."Sixty years on, these testimonies have a powerful and revelatory impact, in part because the activities of Unit 731 and related units remained forgotten until relatively recently. It was only in 1981 that international attention refocused on these awful events when an American journalist, John W. Powell junior, published A Hidden Chapter in History, alleging an American cover-up. Since then, academics and journalists have built an impressive case that details how Ishii and other key players received immunity from prosecution in return for supplying their research to American scientists.
In his authoritative Factories of Death: Japanese Biological Warfare 1932-45, and the American Cover-up, Sheldon Harris recounts that the matter was raised only once at the Tokyo war crimes tribunal in 1946-48.
An American counsel assisting the Chinese, David N. Sutton, stunned the war crimes tribunal by saying: "The enemy . . . took our countrymen as prisoners and used them for drug experiments. They would inject various types of toxic bacteria into their bodies, and then perform experiments on how they reacted . . . this was an act of barbarism by our enemy."
According to the book, the presiding chief judge, Australia's Sir William Webb, asked: "Are you trying to tell us about a poison liquid being administered? Are you trying to provide more evidence? This is a new fact that you have presented before we judges."
The writer Sheldon Harris says that after a brief pause, Webb said: "How about letting this item go?" Sutton replied: "Well, then, I'll leave it." The issue never surfaced again, Harris writes.
Would things have been different if Allied soldiers were involved? There have always been suspicions and allegations that this happened at Camp Mukden in China, where Allied prisoners - including Australians - were held. Yet Sheldon, in his extensive research that contains many examples of the unit's activities, such as the frostbite experiments, was unable to find "substantive evidence" of this.
The immunity granted to those in Unit 731 saw the doctors involved return to mainstream Japanese society. In 1989, the now-defunct Japanese magazine Days Japan revealed how those who had escaped prosecution had gone on to take some of the most prestigious positions in the Japanese medical community.
The man who succeeded Ishii Shiro as commander of Unit 731, Dr Masaji Kitano, became head of Japan's largest pharmaceutical company, the Green Cross. Others took up posts heading university medical schools, and also worked in the Japanese healthministry.
This may in part explain the difficulty in confronting and acknowledging the activities of Unit 731, let alone compensating the victims. It is perhaps important to also distinguish between the response of the Japanese Government and the Japanese people.
Waiting in the long line this week to get into the courtroom, Kazuyo Yamane struck up a conversation. She lectures in peace studies at Japan's Kochi University, and had come to hear the decision because of a deep personal interest.
Yamane and other like-minded Japanese travelled to China in 1998 to find out more about the activities of Unit 731. "Because we didn't have any means to know what really happened, we decided to go and try to know what really happened," she says.
They spoke to people who had lost family members because of the biological warfare experiments. "We felt really guilty as Japanese," she says. As a result, the group decided to support the Chinese in their action.
Yamane believes that the Japanese Government should apologise and compensate the victims of the "terrible damage" done during the war in Asia. "That's what we citizens think. But I think there is a huge gap between the citizens and the Japanese Government.
"I think maybe now Japan is getting nationalistic, and the right-wingers are getting stronger."
In the only official comment on the day of the decision, the Japanese Justice Ministry said the court's decision verified the validity of the Japanese Government's position in refusing compensation and an apology to the victims of Unit 731.
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The death rate in Japanese camps was at least 27 percent. In Europe the figure was roughly 4 percent.
http://www.crimesofwar.org/thebook/medical-experiments.html
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Why is this Important to AUSTRALIA ???
Because we were going to next on their list.
Japanese do Experiment on Live Koreans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovgTLMk5h-8
Human Radiation Experiments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylnoo3SYn9Q&feature=related
Japanese lie about Korean History in the U.S Schools
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLyu5gKi5jc&feature=related
The Horrors Of Unit 731
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlzcG7NobFY&feature=related
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Why is this Important to AUSTRALIA ???
Because we were going to next on their list.
Japanese do Experiment on Live Koreans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovgTLMk5h-8
Human Radiation Experiments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylnoo3SYn9Q&feature=related
Japanese lie about Korean History in the U.S Schools
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLyu5gKi5jc&feature=related
The Horrors Of Unit 731
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlzcG7NobFY&feature=related
And just for AussieJTFer's benefit, I doubt Australian Jews would have been exempted.
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http://www.unit-731.com/
The Unit 731 functioned as an experimental labour for military medical research during the Second Sino-Japanese War and World War 2 in Manchuria, China. The aim was to research the perfect biological weapon with the capibility to kill thousands of people.
Numbers tortured and killed:
3000 to 200000 (Estimation) Chinese, Korean, Mongolians, Allied civilians and prisoners of war were killed in the Japanese experiments.
Brutalities:
Among the prisoners were women and children. They were used to test the effects of grenades from different positions. Pregnant victims had their babies removed without anesthetics. Smomachs, limbs were removed, and blood loss has been studied. Parts of brain, lungs, liver were cut off
(http://www.unit-731.com/photos/Unit-731-photo-3.jpg)
(http://www.unit-731.com/photos/Unit-731-photo-2.jpg)
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I am fully aware of the atrocities committed by the Japanese, they murdered more of their own Asians than anyone else, the rape of Nanking comes to mind. The Japs were cruel but unlike the Germans I don't think they are the warmongers they once were. The Chinese and Koreans despise the Japs the way that the Jews should despise the Germans.
To say that the Germans were "angels" is pretty piss poor, the SS and specifically the einstzgruppen (however you spell it) would rip unborn fetuses out of their Jewish mother's wombs throughout their anti-Jew rampages, would bayonet tiny Jewish babies to death, would rape young Jewish girls to death and committed all sorts of unspeakable horrors on the Jews, all backed by the local Europeans, the Poles, the Ukrainians, the Lithuanians, Estonians, Latvians, Croats, Hungarians, Romanians, French, Italians, Swiss, Belgian, Dutch etc. who turned on their so called Jewish friends and neighbours and even carried out their Jew killing fantasies along with their german buddies. As far as I am aware, their was no systematic attempt at exterminating the Jews by any other group except for the European whites and the muslims.
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I am fully aware of the atrocities committed by the Japanese, they murdered more of their own Asians than anyone else, the rape of Nanking comes to mind. The Japs were cruel but unlike the Germans I don't think they are the warmongers they once were. The Chinese and Koreans despise the Japs the way that the Jews should despise the Germans.
To say that the Germans were "angels" is pretty piss poor, the SS and specifically the einstzgruppen (however you spell it) would rip unborn fetuses out of their Jewish mother's wombs throughout their anti-Jew rampages, would bayonet tiny Jewish babies to death, would rape young Jewish girls to death and committed all sorts of unspeakable horrors on the Jews, all backed by the local Europeans, the Poles, the Ukrainians, the Lithuanians, Estonians, Latvians, Croats, Hungarians, Romanians, French, Italians, Swiss, Belgian, Dutch etc. who turned on their so called Jewish friends and neighbours and even carried out their Jew killing fantasies along with their german buddies. As far as I am aware, their was no systematic attempt at exterminating the Jews by any other group except for the European whites and the muslims.
I said they made the german ARMY (the Wheremacht) look like angels. The SS, SA, Gestapo and others were NOT the army just as the FBI and Secret Service are not the US Army. The vicious, cruel japs were regular army! That's the difference.
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Japs are identical to NAZICROATS,
concerning the slaughtering (!!!)
of Human beings.
>:( >:( >:(
They should have been BOTH
nuked to total annihilation !!!
>:( >:( >:(
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Japs are identical to NAZICROATS,
concerning the slaughtering (!!!)
of Human beings.
>:( >:( >:(
They should have been BOTH
nuked to total annihilation !!!
>:( >:( >:(
I agree, plus Japs are the most Nazi and raciSSt out of all Asians.
Technically, Japs don't consider you Japanese if you have a great or great great/great grandfather or mother who was Chinese or Korean say.
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Japs are identical to NAZICROATS,
concerning the slaughtering (!!!)
of Human beings.
>:( >:( >:(
They should have been BOTH
nuked to total annihilation !!!
>:( >:( >:(
I am glad to see you are not brainwashed by the lefties Husar O0 O0
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Japs are identical to NAZICROATS,
concerning the slaughtering (!!!)
of Human beings.
>:( >:( >:(
They should have been BOTH
nuked to total annihilation !!!
>:( >:( >:(
I agree, plus Japs are the most Nazi and raciSSt out of all Asians.
Technically, Japs don't consider you Japanese if you have a great or great great/great grandfather or mother who was Chinese or Korean say.
Thats right O0, you know they will have no NON jap buying land there, SO who is the RACIST!
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Exactly
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Japs are identical to NAZICROATS,
concerning the slaughtering (!!!)
of Human beings.
>:( >:( >:(
They should have been BOTH
nuked to total annihilation !!!
>:( >:( >:(
Oups, I nuked them again. :::D :::D
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Japs are identical to NAZICROATS,
concerning the slaughtering (!!!)
of Human beings.
>:( >:( >:(
They should have been BOTH
nuked to total annihilation !!!
>:( >:( >:(
Oups, I nuked them again. :::D :::D
whoops :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
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i would be more concerned about china, than Japan!
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i would be more concerned about china, than Japan!
Japan is a country of animals. With no morals.
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i would be more concerned about china, than Japan!
Japan is a country of animals. With no morals.
They're Both Evil, ask Tybetians.
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i would be more concerned about china, than Japan!
Japan is a country of animals. With no morals.
lol. and what do you base that upon?
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i would be more concerned about china, than Japan!
Japan is a country of animals. With no morals.
lol. and what do you base that upon?
Boere have you read any of these posts in this forum? You are a clever young man, I can only guess why you have chosen to go down the path you are now on.
I strongly suggest you rethink and then repost. There are lot of threads here on the Japanese, take the time to read them.
If you accept Nazism of that race, then I have no other choice to deal with you accordingly.
Something I don't wish to do.
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i would be more concerned about china, than Japan!
Japan is a country of animals. With no morals.
lol. and what do you base that upon?
Boere have you read any of these posts in this forum? You are a clever young man, I can only guess why you have chosen to go down the path you are now on.
I strongly suggest you rethink and then repost. There are lot of threads here on the Japanese, take the time to read them.
If you accept Nazism of that race, then I have no other choice to deal with you accordingly.
Something I don't wish to do.
no, i haven't read many posts on this forum. I shall read it first, and then continue posting.
But just to say something. The Japanese saved a thousand Jews (can't quite remember the exact number) from extermination. And I believe for their act of saving those Jews, G-D acted on His promises to people whom are good to Jews.
Also, they are the ONLY possible ally aus and NZ has in the region against China. The Chinese-Japanese rivalry is too different for the Japanese to accept defeat and live under Chinese occupation.
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no, i haven't read many posts on this forum. I shall read it first, and then continue posting.
But just to say something. The Japanese saved a thousand Jews (can't quite remember the exact number) from extermination. And I believe for their act of saving those Jews, G-D acted on His promises to people whom are good to Jews.
Also, they are the ONLY possible ally aus and NZ has in the region against China. The Chinese-Japanese rivalry is too different for the Japanese to accept defeat and live under Chinese occupation.
Why would Australia want to go against china? You know Australia is trade contected and defence contected to that country. China is a strong Ally, and plans a Pacific Rem Union has been in the Governments hands for many years.
They even planned on creating one currency to link the countries.
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no, i haven't read many posts on this forum. I shall read it first, and then continue posting.
But just to say something. The Japanese saved a thousand Jews (can't quite remember the exact number) from extermination. And I believe for their act of saving those Jews, G-D acted on His promises to people whom are good to Jews.
Also, they are the ONLY possible ally aus and NZ has in the region against China. The Chinese-Japanese rivalry is too different for the Japanese to accept defeat and live under Chinese occupation.
Why would Australia want to go against china? You know Australia is trade contected and defence contected to that country. China is a strong Ally, and plans a Pacific Rem Union has been in the Governments hands for many years.
They even planned on creating one currency to link the countries.
Yes i am aware. So in that scenario, Australia will go up against the west and America. That's no good! But then again, Austrlia won't be white for much longer, so it will fall under china anyway(or it's absolute influence).
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no, i haven't read many posts on this forum. I shall read it first, and then continue posting.
But just to say something. The Japanese saved a thousand Jews (can't quite remember the exact number) from extermination. And I believe for their act of saving those Jews, G-D acted on His promises to people whom are good to Jews.
Also, they are the ONLY possible ally aus and NZ has in the region against China. The Chinese-Japanese rivalry is too different for the Japanese to accept defeat and live under Chinese occupation.
Why would Australia want to go against china? You know Australia is trade contected and defence contected to that country. China is a strong Ally, and plans a Pacific Rem Union has been in the Governments hands for many years.
They even planned on creating one currency to link the countries.
Yes i am aware. So in that scenario, Australia will go up against the west and America. That's no good! But then again, Austrlia won't be white for much longer, so it will fall under china anyway(or it's absolute influence).
The Asians here are not chinese mostly, they are the lesser ones.
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Besides Chinese are comies who want to rebuild their empire in SE Asia, Tybet, Taiwan, SK, Wietnam ask them what they think of Chineese benovelance... Modern Chinese are as evil as pre WWII Japanese. Whoever thinks that Japs are worse than WWII Huns are insane. >:(
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Besides Chinese are comies who want to rebuild their empire in SE Asia, Tybet, Taiwan, SK, Wietnam ask them what they think of Chineese benovelance... Modern Chinese are as evil as pre WWII Japanese. Whoever thinks that Japs are worse than WWII Huns are insane. >:(
I said the Japanese ARMY is worse than the WW2 German ARMY. I do not include SS, Gestapo etc in the german army. Most attrocities committed by the krauts were done by the SS, Gestapo etc, not the whermacht (army) itself (though they did do some). The Kreigsmarine (navy) were pretty good to their POWs etc.
Horrific Japanese attrocities were committed by their regular army & navy. That's the difference.
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Besides Chinese are comies who want to rebuild their empire in SE Asia, Tybet, Taiwan, SK, Wietnam ask them what they think of Chineese benovelance... Modern Chinese are as evil as pre WWII Japanese. Whoever thinks that Japs are worse than WWII Huns are insane. >:(
I said the Japanese ARMY is worse than the WW2 German ARMY. I do not include SS, Gestapo etc in the german army. Most attrocities committed by the krauts were done by the SS, Gestapo etc, not the whermacht (army) itself (though they did do some). The Kreigsmarine (navy) were pretty good to their POWs etc.
Horrific Japanese attrocities were committed by their regular army & navy. That's the difference.
Older regiments with noblemen oficcers and esprite d'corps from Imperial Army tended to be more honourable in conduct of war yes... but renember that all front divisions were rotated to so called "anti-partizan duty" which meant killing inocent villagers: women, childrens an cattle ... and Heer was inflirtrated and devoured by joung nazi oficers from HJ. Luftawaffe field troops were almost as bad as SS. And there were some Waffen SS men who diddn't comitted war crimes themselfs but all who swered the aliegence to Shitler as fuhrer of Germany are responsible for all crimes of the III Reich. BTW Talking about "Good Wermaht" is modern german historic revisionism. Ask our Serbian friends about this.
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Besides Chinese are comies who want to rebuild their empire in SE Asia, Tybet, Taiwan, SK, Wietnam ask them what they think of Chineese benovelance... Modern Chinese are as evil as pre WWII Japanese. Whoever thinks that Japs are worse than WWII Huns are insane. >:(
I said the Japanese ARMY is worse than the WW2 German ARMY. I do not include SS, Gestapo etc in the german army. Most attrocities committed by the krauts were done by the SS, Gestapo etc, not the whermacht (army) itself (though they did do some). The Kreigsmarine (navy) were pretty good to their POWs etc.
Horrific Japanese attrocities were committed by their regular army & navy. That's the difference.
Older regiments with noblemen oficcers and esprite d'corps from Imperial Army tended to be more honourable in conduct of war yes... but renember that all front divisions were rotated to so called "anti-partizan duty" which meant killing inocent villagers: women, childrens an cattle ... and Heer was inflirtrated and devoured by joung nazi oficers from HJ. Luftawaffe field troops were almost as bad as SS. And there were some Waffen SS men who diddn't comitted war crimes themselfs but all who swered the aliegence to Shitler as fuhrer of Germany are responsible for all crimes of the III Reich. BTW Talking about "Good Wermaht" is modern german historic revisionism. Ask our Serbian friends about this.
Stop perverting my statements.
I do not regard the Wermacht as good. I regard them as BETTER than the Imperial Japanese Army.
It is almost impossible to find a WW2 Veteran ex-POW in Australia who was mistreated by the Wermacht, Kriegsmarine or Luftwaffe. Yet EVERY POW of the Japanese WAS mistreated.
Australians, Americans and Brits fought BOTH the Japanese AND the germans. We can make a comparrison..................others who ONLY fought germans cannot.
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i would be more concerned about china, than Japan!
Japan is a country of animals. With no morals.
Absolutely agree, especially when it comes to explicit immoral obscene material being filtered through the bowels of the Internet
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Besides Chinese are comies who want to rebuild their empire in SE Asia, Tybet, Taiwan, SK, Wietnam ask them what they think of Chineese benovelance... Modern Chinese are as evil as pre WWII Japanese. Whoever thinks that Japs are worse than WWII Huns are insane. >:(
I said the Japanese ARMY is worse than the WW2 German ARMY. I do not include SS, Gestapo etc in the german army. Most attrocities committed by the krauts were done by the SS, Gestapo etc, not the whermacht (army) itself (though they did do some). The Kreigsmarine (navy) were pretty good to their POWs etc.
Horrific Japanese attrocities were committed by their regular army & navy. That's the difference.
Older regiments with noblemen oficcers and esprite d'corps from Imperial Army tended to be more honourable in conduct of war yes... but renember that all front divisions were rotated to so called "anti-partizan duty" which meant killing inocent villagers: women, childrens an cattle ... and Heer was inflirtrated and devoured by joung nazi oficers from HJ. Luftawaffe field troops were almost as bad as SS. And there were some Waffen SS men who diddn't comitted war crimes themselfs but all who swered the aliegence to Shitler as fuhrer of Germany are responsible for all crimes of the III Reich. BTW Talking about "Good Wermaht" is modern german historic revisionism. Ask our Serbian friends about this.
Stop perverting my statements.
I do not regard the Wermacht as good. I regard them as BETTER than the Imperial Japanese Army.
It is almost impossible to find a WW2 Veteran ex-POW in Australia who was mistreated by the Wermacht, Kriegsmarine or Luftwaffe. Yet EVERY POW of the Japanese WAS mistreated.
Australians, Americans and Brits fought BOTH the Japanese AND the germans. We can make a comparrison..................others who ONLY fought germans cannot.
You have right we can only compare germans with soviets. However The Gemans played "nice" on western front. In the East it was total war.
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Japs are identical to NAZICROATS,
concerning the slaughtering (!!!)
of Human beings.
>:( >:( >:(
They should have been BOTH
nuked to total annihilation !!!
>:( >:( >:(
I am glad to see you are not brainwashed by the lefties Husar O0 O0
They were NAZIS, NAZIPHILES, NAZISTIC, NAZI-SUPPORTED...
Thus, they are my personnal enemies, and NO MANGA
will make me forget WHAT they truly are.
I say "thumbs up to Skippy",
for not forgetting that either.
Nor forgiving.
O0 O0 O0
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Besides Chinese are comies who want to rebuild their empire in SE Asia, Tybet, Taiwan, SK, Wietnam ask them what they think of Chineese benovelance... Modern Chinese are as evil as pre WWII Japanese. Whoever thinks that Japs are worse than WWII Huns are insane. >:(
I said the Japanese ARMY is worse than the WW2 German ARMY. I do not include SS, Gestapo etc in the german army. Most attrocities committed by the krauts were done by the SS, Gestapo etc, not the whermacht (army) itself (though they did do some). The Kreigsmarine (navy) were pretty good to their POWs etc.
Horrific Japanese attrocities were committed by their regular army & navy. That's the difference.
Older regiments with noblemen oficcers and esprite d'corps from Imperial Army tended to be more honourable in conduct of war yes... but renember that all front divisions were rotated to so called "anti-partizan duty" which meant killing inocent villagers: women, childrens an cattle ... and Heer was inflirtrated and devoured by joung nazi oficers from HJ. Luftawaffe field troops were almost as bad as SS. And there were some Waffen SS men who diddn't comitted war crimes themselfs but all who swered the aliegence to Shitler as fuhrer of Germany are responsible for all crimes of the III Reich. BTW Talking about "Good Wermaht" is modern german historic revisionism. Ask our Serbian friends about this.
Confirmed.
:'( :'( :'(
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:'( :'(
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Japs are identical to NAZICROATS,
concerning the slaughtering (!!!)
of Human beings.
>:( >:( >:(
They should have been BOTH
nuked to total annihilation !!!
>:( >:( >:(
I am glad to see you are not brainwashed by the lefties Husar O0 O0
They were NAZIS, NAZIPHILES, NAZISTIC, NAZI-SUPPORTED...
Thus, they are my personnal enemies, and NO MANGA
will make me forget WHAT they truly are.
I say "thumbs up to Skippy",
for not forgetting that either.
Nor forgiving.
O0 O0 O0
This is something we shall never forgive its craved in stone 8;)
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Japs are identical to NAZICROATS,
concerning the slaughtering (!!!)
of Human beings.
>:( >:( >:(
They should have been BOTH
nuked to total annihilation !!!
>:( >:( >:(
I am glad to see you are not brainwashed by the lefties Husar O0 O0
They were NAZIS, NAZIPHILES, NAZISTIC, NAZI-SUPPORTED...
Thus, they are my personnal enemies, and NO MANGA
will make me forget WHAT they truly are.
I say "thumbs up to Skippy",
for not forgetting that either.
Nor forgiving.
O0 O0 O0
This is something we shall never forgive its craved in stone 8;)
Correct
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Japs are identical to NAZICROATS,
concerning the slaughtering (!!!)
of Human beings.
>:( >:( >:(
They should have been BOTH
nuked to total annihilation !!!
>:( >:( >:(
I am glad to see you are not brainwashed by the lefties Husar O0 O0
They were NAZIS, NAZIPHILES, NAZISTIC, NAZI-SUPPORTED...
Thus, they are my personnal enemies, and NO MANGA
will make me forget WHAT they truly are.
I say "thumbs up to Skippy",
for not forgetting that either.
Nor forgiving.
O0 O0 O0
This is something we shall never forgive its craved in stone 8;)
This is a Stone that has to
be shown to the vast world.
And we do participate
in showing this Stone,
through JTF.
:)
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Theres alot of support happening now offsite, I am very glad to say O0
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The SS were the private army of the Nazi Party the Wehrmacht were just draftees
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The SS were the private army of the Nazi Party the Wehrmacht were just draftees
Kill them all.
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The SS were the private army of the Nazi Party the Wehrmacht were just draftees
Kill them all.
O0
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The SS were the private army of the Nazi Party the Wehrmacht were just draftees
Kill them all.
O0
That's how I like it, you know.
O0
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The SS were the private army of the Nazi Party the Wehrmacht were just draftees
Kill them all.
O0
Mo-slime will get them. O0 And Then we'll wipeout the iSSlam ;). A'll even say poor "Ubermenchen" ::)
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i would be more concerned about china, than Japan!
Japan is a country of animals. With no morals.
They're Both Evil, ask Tybetians.
Tibetans are evil too.
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"WWII Japs make German army look like angels."
Translation:
"The Nazi butchers of WWII weren't so bad." >:(
Such a thread could just as easily been found on StørmFrønt.
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"WWII Japs make German army look like angels."
Translation:
"The Nazi butchers of WWII weren't so bad." >:(
Such a thread could just as easily been found on StørmFrønt.
Wrong!
I said german 'army' as is wermacht. That does NOT include the SS, Gestapo, SA etc.
By any measure the Japanese army was far worse. Whats more, not a single WW2 veteren (who fought both) would disagree.
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i would be more concerned about china, than Japan!
Japan is a country of animals. With no morals.
They're Both Evil, ask Tybetians.
Tibetans are evil too.
Maybe I'm not versed on them to judge. But they don't trying to exterminate Chinese.
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"WWII Japs make German army look like angels."
Translation:
"The Nazi butchers of WWII weren't so bad." >:(
Such a thread could just as easily been found on StørmFrønt.
So I'm not alone... It's strange topic on JTF. Even if it's technicly true that average Bosh was 10% less savege than average Jap... ::) besides SF-ers and german revisionists love woud love this for sure... Mods Change the topic to "WW2 Japanese more savage than german army!*warning Graphic content" besides we shud not compare any mundane army to the Army of G-d.
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"WWII Japs make German army look like angels."
Translation:
"The Nazi butchers of WWII weren't so bad." >:(
Such a thread could just as easily been found on StørmFrønt.
So I'm not alone... It's strange topic on JTF. Even if it's technically true that average Bosh was 10% less savege than average Jap... ::) besides SF-ers and german revisionists love woud love this for sure... Mods Change the topic to "WW2 Japanese more savage than german army!*warning Graphic content" besides we shud not compare any mundane army to the Army of G-d.
The fact that we have someone trying to diminish the barbarism of the Nazis and the horrors of the Holocaust on an Ultra-Orthodox Jewish forum is highly suspicious.
What the Japanese did to the POWs in WWII was of course, inhumane to say the least, but war is War, not fun and games. Did the Japanese set out to systematically destroy a single group of people like the Nazis did?
I don't care how much someone hates the Japanese. Is there ANY justification for in effect saying, "the Nazis may have been bad but the Japanese were WORSE."
How is this any different from Jesse Jackson saying in Yad Vashem (sp.?), "I'm sick and tired of hearing about the holocaust"?
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"WWII Japs make German army look like angels."
Translation:
"The Nazi butchers of WWII weren't so bad." >:(
Such a thread could just as easily been found on StørmFrønt.
So I'm not alone... It's strange topic on JTF. Even if it's technically true that average Bosh was 10% less savege than average Jap... ::) besides SF-ers and german revisionists love woud love this for sure... Mods Change the topic to "WW2 Japanese more savage than german army!*warning Graphic content" besides we shud not compare any mundane army to the Army of G-d.
The fact that we have someone trying to diminish the barbarism of the Nazis and the horrors of the Holocaust on an Ultra-Orthodox Jewish forum is highly suspicious.
What the Japanese did to the POWs in WWII was of course, inhumane. To say the least, but war is War, not fun and games. Did the Japanese set out to systematically destroy a single group of people?
I don't care how much someone hates the Japanese. Is there ANY justification for in effect saying, "the Nazis may have been bad but the Japanese were WORSE."
How is this any different from Jesse Jackson saying in Yad Vashem (sp.?), "I'm sick and tired of hearing about the holocaust"?
You're deliberately twisting the thread.
The comparison is between the Imperial Japanese Army and the Wermacht...... NOT the militarist government of WW2 Japan and the nazi government of germany.
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"WWII Japs make German army look like angels."
Translation:
"The Nazi butchers of WWII weren't so bad." >:(
Such a thread could just as easily been found on StørmFrønt.
So I'm not alone... It's strange topic on JTF. Even if it's technically true that average Bosh was 10% less savege than average Jap... ::) besides SF-ers and german revisionists love woud love this for sure... Mods Change the topic to "WW2 Japanese more savage than german army!*warning Graphic content" besides we shud not compare any mundane army to the Army of G-d.
The fact that we have someone trying to diminish the barbarism of the Nazis and the horrors of the Holocaust on an Ultra-Orthodox Jewish forum is highly suspicious.
What the Japanese did to the POWs in WWII was of course, inhumane. To say the least, but war is War, not fun and games. Did the Japanese set out to systematically destroy a single group of people?
I don't care how much someone hates the Japanese. Is there ANY justification for in effect saying, "the Nazis may have been bad but the Japanese were WORSE."
How is this any different from Jesse Jackson saying in Yad Vashem (sp.?), "I'm sick and tired of hearing about the holocaust"?
You're deliberately twisting the thread.
The comparison is between the Imperial Japanese Army and the Wermacht...... NOT the militarist government of WW2 Japan and the nazi government of germany.
I'm not twisting anything, they're your own words:
"WW2 Japs make german army look like angels!"
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"WWII Japs make German army look like angels."
Translation:
"The Nazi butchers of WWII weren't so bad." >:(
Such a thread could just as easily been found on StørmFrønt.
So I'm not alone... It's strange topic on JTF. Even if it's technically true that average Bosh was 10% less savege than average Jap... ::) besides SF-ers and german revisionists love woud love this for sure... Mods Change the topic to "WW2 Japanese more savage than german army!*warning Graphic content" besides we shud not compare any mundane army to the Army of G-d.
The fact that we have someone trying to diminish the barbarism of the Nazis and the horrors of the Holocaust on an Ultra-Orthodox Jewish forum is highly suspicious.
What the Japanese did to the POWs in WWII was of course, inhumane. To say the least, but war is War, not fun and games. Did the Japanese set out to systematically destroy a single group of people?
I don't care how much someone hates the Japanese. Is there ANY justification for in effect saying, "the Nazis may have been bad but the Japanese were WORSE."
How is this any different from Jesse Jackson saying in Yad Vashem (sp.?), "I'm sick and tired of hearing about the holocaust"?
You're deliberately twisting the thread.
The comparison is between the Imperial Japanese Army and the Wermacht...... NOT the militarist government of WW2 Japan and the nazi government of germany.
I'm not twisting anything, they're your own words:
"WW2 Japs make german army look like angels!"
Exactly.....I said "german ARMY"........not 'the nazis'. Plus the opening post is about the IJA.
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"WWII Japs make German army look like angels."
Translation:
"The Nazi butchers of WWII weren't so bad." >:(
Such a thread could just as easily been found on StørmFrønt.
So I'm not alone... It's strange topic on JTF. Even if it's technically true that average Bosh was 10% less savege than average Jap... ::) besides SF-ers and german revisionists love woud love this for sure... Mods Change the topic to "WW2 Japanese more savage than german army!*warning Graphic content" besides we shud not compare any mundane army to the Army of G-d.
The fact that we have someone trying to diminish the barbarism of the Nazis and the horrors of the Holocaust on an Ultra-Orthodox Jewish forum is highly suspicious.
What the Japanese did to the POWs in WWII was of course, inhumane. To say the least, but war is War, not fun and games. Did the Japanese set out to systematically destroy a single group of people?
I don't care how much someone hates the Japanese. Is there ANY justification for in effect saying, "the Nazis may have been bad but the Japanese were WORSE."
How is this any different from Jesse Jackson saying in Yad Vashem (sp.?), "I'm sick and tired of hearing about the holocaust"?
You're deliberately twisting the thread.
The comparison is between the Imperial Japanese Army and the Wermacht...... NOT the militarist government of WW2 Japan and the nazi government of germany.
I'm not twisting anything, they're your own words:
"WW2 Japs make german army look like angels!"
Exactly.....I said "german ARMY"........not 'the nazis'. Plus the opening post is about the IJA.
You sound like a lawyer who found a loophole in the wording of some legal document.
I can therefore infer that Japanese civilians during WWII made the Nazi soldiers look like angels? After all, you didn't say 'Japanese Army', you said, "WWII Japs". Therefore, you mean that ALL JAPANESE PEOPLE DURING WWII (even infants and children) made the German soldiers look like ANGELS.
Whatever you say, Newman.
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"WWII Japs make German army look like angels."
Translation:
"The Nazi butchers of WWII weren't so bad." >:(
Such a thread could just as easily been found on StørmFrønt.
So I'm not alone... It's strange topic on JTF. Even if it's technically true that average Bosh was 10% less savege than average Jap... ::) besides SF-ers and german revisionists love woud love this for sure... Mods Change the topic to "WW2 Japanese more savage than german army!*warning Graphic content" besides we shud not compare any mundane army to the Army of G-d.
The fact that we have someone trying to diminish the barbarism of the Nazis and the horrors of the Holocaust on an Ultra-Orthodox Jewish forum is highly suspicious.
What the Japanese did to the POWs in WWII was of course, inhumane. To say the least, but war is War, not fun and games. Did the Japanese set out to systematically destroy a single group of people?
I don't care how much someone hates the Japanese. Is there ANY justification for in effect saying, "the Nazis may have been bad but the Japanese were WORSE."
How is this any different from Jesse Jackson saying in Yad Vashem (sp.?), "I'm sick and tired of hearing about the holocaust"?
You're deliberately twisting the thread.
The comparison is between the Imperial Japanese Army and the Wermacht...... NOT the militarist government of WW2 Japan and the nazi government of germany.
I'm not twisting anything, they're your own words:
"WW2 Japs make german army look like angels!"
Exactly.....I said "german ARMY"........not 'the nazis'. Plus the opening post is about the IJA.
You sound like a lawyer who found a loophole in the wording of some legal document.
I can therefore infer that Japanese civilians during WWII made the Nazi soldiers look like angels? After all, you didn't say 'Japanese Army', you said, "WWII Japs". Therefore, you mean that ALL JAPANESE PEOPLE DURING WWII (even infants and children) made the German soldiers look like ANGELS.
Whatever you say, Newman.
Read some personal journals of POWs of both the germans & Japs and you'll see what I mean.
Read about the IJN unit 731 and it's diabolical experiments on LIVE chinese. Mangele didn't even come close (as evil as he was).
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Oh newman Scrabbie has been editing your posts.
I think he is a Jap. :D
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Oh newman Scrabbie has been editing your posts.
I think he is a Jap. :D
I'm just like you.
I'm a [censored].
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Oh newman Scrabbie has been editing your posts.
I think he is a Jap. :D
I'm a [censored].
Hahaha oh you are much more than that :::D :::D
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Oh newman Scrabbie has been editing your posts.
I think he is a Jap. :D
Hahaha oh you are must more than that :::D :::D
Must more? How must more?
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Newman , you say Mengele "even did come close"
I think he still was horrible.
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Oh newman Scrabbie has been editing your posts.
I think he is a Jap. :D
Hahaha oh you are much more than that :::D :::D
Much more? How much more?
Oh a lot more Scabbie O0 :::D
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Newman , you say Mengele "even did come close"
I think he still was horrible.
I said he was evil. The point is the japs were unbelievably bad, NOT that the germans were good. A man who murders two women in Central Park is evil and vile, but compared to Ted Bundy (over 100 murders by some estimations), Ted is WORSE. Understand?
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Oh newman Scrabbie has been editing your posts.
I think he is a Jap. :D
Hahaha oh you are must more than that :::D :::D
Much more? How much more?
Oh a lot more Scabbie O0 :::D
What did you mean by 'must more'?
That's what it said before you corrected it.
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Newman , you say Mengele "even did come close"
I think he still was horrible.
I said he was evil. The point is the japs were unbelievably bad, NOT that the germans were good. A man who murders two women in Central Park is evil and vile, but compared to Ted Bundy (over 100 murders by some estimations), Ted is WORSE. Understand?
How much more deaths did the Japanese inflicted in their human-dissection camps, than the nazis?
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Newman , you say Mengele "even did come close"
I think he still was horrible.
I said he was evil. The point is the japs were unbelievably bad, NOT that the germans were good. A man who murders two women in Central Park is evil and vile, but compared to Ted Bundy (over 100 murders by some estimations), Ted is WORSE. Understand?
How much more deaths did the Japanese inflicted in their human-dissection camps, than the nazis?
This whole thread is like a StørmFrønt Nazi apologist subject.
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Oh newman Scrabbie has been editing your posts.
I think he is a Jap. :D
Hahaha oh you are must more than that :::D :::D
Much more? How much more?
Oh a lot more Scabbie O0 :::D
What did you mean by 'must more'?
That's what it said before you corrected it.
Typo I was on the phone :::D
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Newman , you say Mengele "even did come close"
I think he still was horrible.
I said he was evil. The point is the japs were unbelievably bad, NOT that the germans were good. A man who murders two women in Central Park is evil and vile, but compared to Ted Bundy (over 100 murders by some estimations), Ted is WORSE. Understand?
How much more deaths did the Japanese inflicted in their human-dissection camps, than the nazis?
Does that excuse what they did I think not ::)
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Newman , you say Mengele "even did come close"
I think he still was horrible.
I said he was evil. The point is the japs were unbelievably bad, NOT that the germans were good. A man who murders two women in Central Park is evil and vile, but compared to Ted Bundy (over 100 murders by some estimations), Ted is WORSE. Understand?
How much more deaths did the Japanese inflicted in their human-dissection camps, than the nazis?
It's the behaviour towards POWs by the armies that this thread is about.....not what militias did.
Allied POWs captured by germans were fed, humanely treated and given the same medical care as german soldiers. POWs of the japs were starved and tortured as a matter of course.
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Newman , you say Mengele "even did come close"
I think he still was horrible.
I said he was evil. The point is the japs were unbelievably bad, NOT that the germans were good. A man who murders two women in Central Park is evil and vile, but compared to Ted Bundy (over 100 murders by some estimations), Ted is WORSE. Understand?
How much more deaths did the Japanese inflicted in their human-dissection camps, than the nazis?
This whole thread is like a StørmFrønt Nazi apologist subject.
Japs are Nazis so yes it would do well at SF :::D
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Newman , you say Mengele "even did come close"
I think he still was horrible.
I said he was evil. The point is the japs were unbelievably bad, NOT that the germans were good. A man who murders two women in Central Park is evil and vile, but compared to Ted Bundy (over 100 murders by some estimations), Ted is WORSE. Understand?
How much more deaths did the Japanese inflicted in their human-dissection camps, than the nazis?
It's the behaviour towards POWs by the armies that this thread is about.....not what militias did.
Allied POWs captured by germans were fed, humanely treated and given the same medical care as german soldiers. POWs of the japs were starved and tortured as a matter of course.
The brutality in the camps, were Japs worse then Germans?
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Newman , you say Mengele "even did come close"
I think he still was horrible.
I said he was evil. The point is the japs were unbelievably bad, NOT that the germans were good. A man who murders two women in Central Park is evil and vile, but compared to Ted Bundy (over 100 murders by some estimations), Ted is WORSE. Understand?
How much more deaths did the Japanese inflicted in their human-dissection camps, than the nazis?
It's the behaviour towards POWs by the armies that this thread is about.....not what militias did.
Allied POWs captured by germans were fed, humanely treated and given the same medical care as german soldiers. POWs of the japs were starved and tortured as a matter of course.
The brutality in the camps, were Japs worse then Germans?
Yes
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I can't believe what low-IQed, half-wits some people are!!!!
This is an anti- japanese army thread....NOT a pro-german one. The point being made is that as vile and evil as the german army's exploits were, the Jap army was WORSE. That does mean I'm saying the germans were lilly white!!!!!
If somebody says.."Jeffrey Dahmer was so bad he made John Wayne Gacey look good" it means they are illustrating the evil of Dahmer, NOT white washing Gacey!!!!
Jeeezus H!!!!!!!!!! Learn to bloody well comprehend. Some of you are worse than bloody erica! >:(
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I can't believe what low-IQed, half-wits some people are!!!!
This is an anti- japanese army thread....NOT a pro-german one. The point being made is that as vile and evil as the german army's exploits were, the Jap army was WORSE. That does mean I'm saying the germans were lilly white!!!!!
If somebody says.."Jeffrey Dahmer was so bad he made John Wayne Gacey look good" it means they are illustrating the evil of Dahmer, NOT white washing Gacey!!!!
Jeeezus H!!!!!!!!!! Learn to bloody well comprehend. Some of you are worse than bloody erica! >:(
You are extremely aggressive.
I get sick of these treads.
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I can't believe what low-IQed, half-wits some people are!!!!
This is an anti- japanese army thread....NOT a pro-german one. The point being made is that as vile and evil as the german army's exploits were, the Jap army was WORSE. That does mean I'm saying the germans were lilly white!!!!!
If somebody says.."Jeffrey Dahmer was so bad he made John Wayne Gacey look good" it means they are illustrating the evil of Dahmer, NOT white washing Gacey!!!!
Jeeezus H!!!!!!!!!! Learn to bloody well comprehend. Some of you are worse than bloody erica! >:(
You are extremely aggressive.
I get sick of these treads.
Then don't post in them.
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For alla sake Newman just change the thread Topic so it will not appear to be rascist toward Japs and/or apologist to German nazis. Scrabian and Ambroix have the right this time.
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For alla sake Newman just change the thread Topic so it will not appear to be rascist toward Japs and/or apologist to German nazis. Scrabian and Ambroix have the right this time.
No, they are ignorant and stupid and so are you.
It IS anti-jap but NOT pro-german. Anyone with half a brain who comprehends english properly will realise that.
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For alla sake Newman just change the thread Topic so it will not appear to be rascist toward Japs and/or apologist to German nazis. Scrabian and Ambroix have the right this time.
No, they are ignorant and stupid and so are you.
It IS anti-jap but NOT pro-german. Anyone with half a brain who comprehends english properly will realise that.
Please don't insult me.
You are right to expose the brutalities [no words describe their terror] of the naziJaps.
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The nips were much worse to allied prisoners then the Germans.My old Dr. the Dr. i used before he retierd yrs ago was captured by the Germans .He said the food was horrible but they weren'nt tortured or beaten by the Germans
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The nips were much worse to allied prisoners then the Germans.My old Dr. the Dr. i used before he retierd yrs ago was captured by the Germans .He said the food was horrible but they weren'nt tortured or beaten by the Germans
War is War. Not kiddie playtime.
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The nips were much worse to allied prisoners then the Germans.My old Dr. the Dr. i used before he retierd yrs ago was captured by the Germans .He said the food was horrible but they weren'nt tortured or beaten by the Germans
Well I guess that he was not in Soviet Army, Not that Soviets were better to their POWs as Katyn showed; But Germans mistreated Serbian and Italians POWs as well. BTW was he Jewish?
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The nips were much worse to allied prisoners then the Germans.My old Dr. the Dr. i used before he retierd yrs ago was captured by the Germans .He said the food was horrible but they weren'nt tortured or beaten by the Germans
Exactly O0
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Most allied prisoners were treated well by the Germans, but not Jews, spys or special forces. They were tortured to death!
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Paladin: "...Most allied prisoners were treated well by the Germans, but not Jews, spys or special forces. They were tortured to death!..."
For real?
I thought only Americans used torture.
You mean the Nazis did it too?
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The nips were much worse to allied prisoners then the Germans.My old Dr. the Dr. i used before he retierd yrs ago was captured by the Germans .He said the food was horrible but they weren'nt tortured or beaten by the Germans
War is War. Not kiddie playtime.
War is killing enemy soldiers and taking prisoners.
It IS NOT performing vivasections or torturing POWs. Nor is it using civilian women as sex slaves.
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The nips were much worse to allied prisoners then the Germans.My old Dr. the Dr. i used before he retierd yrs ago was captured by the Germans .He said the food was horrible but they weren'nt tortured or beaten by the Germans
War is War. Not kiddie playtime.
War is killing enemy soldiers and taking prisoners.
It IS NOT performing vivasections or torturing POWs. Nor is it using civilian women as sex slaves.
War is War. Not kiddie playtime.
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The nips were much worse to allied prisoners then the Germans.My old Dr. the Dr. i used before he retierd yrs ago was captured by the Germans .He said the food was horrible but they weren'nt tortured or beaten by the Germans
War is War. Not kiddie playtime.
War is killing enemy soldiers and taking prisoners.
It IS NOT performing vivasections or torturing POWs. Nor is it using civilian women as sex slaves.
War is War. Not kiddie playtime.
How is it then that the USA, Canada, UK, Australia, NZ and all the allies manage to wage war WITHOUT "performing vivasections or torturing POWs" or "using civilian women as sex slaves" but Japs cannot?
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The nips were much worse to allied prisoners then the Germans.My old Dr. the Dr. i used before he retierd yrs ago was captured by the Germans .He said the food was horrible but they weren'nt tortured or beaten by the Germans
War is War. Not kiddie playtime.
War is killing enemy soldiers and taking prisoners.
It IS NOT performing vivasections or torturing POWs. Nor is it using civilian women as sex slaves.
War is War. Not kiddie playtime.
How is it then that the USA, Canada, UK, Australia, NZ and all the allies manage to wage war WITHOUT "performing vivasections or torturing POWs" or "using civilian women as sex slaves" but Japs cannot?
First of all, Canada, NZ and Australia aren't and never were military superpowers, OK. They're jokes.
Secondly, the USA and England never used women as sex slaves or tortured POWs? Proposterous.
England has one of the most brutal histories of any country and the USA is an infant nation.
When the Allied Bombers bombed Dresden, who do you think they were bombing? Generals? They were bombling the German people.
I know. It's OK to kill civilians, but not to rape and torture them.
War is War. The Enemy is the Enemy. Not an adversary or an opponent.
This is objective, warlike thinking.
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I agree with Newman when it's comes to western front, in Balkans and East germans, even regualar forcess were not angels. The difference is that Hitler wanted a peace with western alies so he sticked to the rules of war, everywhere else they acted like Huns they are in their extermination war to create Lebensraum.
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First of all, Canada, NZ and Australia aren't and never were military superpowers, OK. They're jokes.
War is war no matter how big the army. So I ask again why NONE of the allied nations (EXCEPT JAPAN) performed vivasections and torture on POWs or pressed civilian women into official service as 'comfort women'?
Secondly, the USA and England never used women as sex slaves or tortured POWs? Proposterous.
Where, who and when? Such behaviour has NEVER been documented in the 20th century by ANY allied nation
England has one of the most brutal histories of any country and the USA is an infant nation.
The thread is about WW2, not the crusades or colonisation of the New World.
When the Allied Bombers bombed Dresden, who do you think they were bombing? Generals? They were bombling the German people.
You sound like muSSlims equating IDF air strikes with terrorist attacks. If you don't know the moral difference between bombing the industrial city of an enemy and torturing/mutilating POWs, you've a screw loose.
I know. It's OK to kill civilians, but not to rape and torture them.
My point exactly.
War is War. The Enemy is the Enemy. Not an adversary or an opponent.
Never claimed otherwise.
This is objective, warlike thinking.
But you equating Dresden's bombing with the torture & mutilation of POWs (already caught & in captivity) is moral relativism.
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First of all, Canada, NZ and Australia aren't and never were military superpowers, OK. They're jokes.
War is war no matter how big the army. So I ask again why NONE of the allied nations (EXCEPT JAPAN) performed vivasections and torture on POWs or pressed civilian women into official service as 'comfort women'?
Secondly, the USA and England never used women as sex slaves or tortured POWs? Proposterous.
Where, who and when? Such behaviour has NEVER been documented in the 20th century by ANY allied nation
England has one of the most brutal histories of any country and the USA is an infant nation.
The thread is about WW2, not the crusades or colonisation of the New World.
When the Allied Bombers bombed Dresden, who do you think they were bombing? Generals? They were bombling the German people.
You sound like muSSlims equating IDF air strikes with terrorist attacks. If you don't know the moral difference between bombing the industrial city of an enemy and torturing/mutilating POWs, you've a screw loose.
I know. It's OK to kill civilians, but not to rape and torture them.
My point exactly.
War is War. The Enemy is the Enemy. Not an adversary or an opponent.
Never claimed otherwise.
This is objective, warlike thinking.
But you equating Dresden's bombing with the torture & mutilation of POWs (already caught & in captivity) is moral relativism.
War is War not kiddie playtime.
Vivisection schmivisection.
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"When the Allied Bombers bombed Dresden, who do you think they were bombing? Generals? They were bombling the German people."
You sound like muSSlims equating IDF air strikes with terrorist attacks. If you don't know the moral difference between bombing the industrial city of an enemy and torturing/mutilating POWs, you've a screw loose.
This is a direct quote from Rabbi Kahane.
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How is it then that Canada, Australia, amd NZ and all the allies manage to wage war WITHOUT "performing vivasections or torturing POWs" or "using civilian women as sex slaves" but Japs cannot?
You left out France.
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"When the Allied Bombers bombed Dresden, who do you think they were bombing? Generals? They were bombling the German people."
You sound like muSSlims equating IDF air strikes with terrorist attacks. If you don't know the moral difference between bombing the industrial city of an enemy and torturing/mutilating POWs, you've a screw loose.
This is a direct quote from Rabbi Kahane.
My own words, I assure you.........but great minds think alike.
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"When the Allied Bombers bombed Dresden, who do you think they were bombing? Generals? They were bombling the German people."
You sound like muSSlims equating IDF air strikes with terrorist attacks. If you don't know the moral difference between bombing the industrial city of an enemy and torturing/mutilating POWs, you've a screw loose.
This is a direct quote from Rabbi Kahane.
O0
My own words, I assure you.........but great minds think alike.
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"When the Allied Bombers bombed Dresden, who do you think they were bombing? Generals? They were bombling the German people."
You sound like muSSlims equating IDF air strikes with terrorist attacks. If you don't know the moral difference between bombing the industrial city of an enemy and torturing/mutilating POWs, you've a screw loose.
This is a direct quote from Rabbi Kahane. (Above in quotations)
My own words, I assure you.........but great minds think alike.
Newman. When did you ever say:
"When the Allied Bombers bombed Dresden, who do you think they were bombing? Generals? They were bombling the German people."
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"When the Allied Bombers bombed Dresden, who do you think they were bombing? Generals? They were bombling the German people."
You sound like muSSlims equating IDF air strikes with terrorist attacks. If you don't know the moral difference between bombing the industrial city of an enemy and torturing/mutilating POWs, you've a screw loose.
This is a direct quote from Rabbi Kahane. (Above in quotations)
My own words, I assure you.........but great minds think alike.
Newman. When did you ever say:
"When the Allied Bombers bombed Dresden, who do you think they were bombing? Generals? They were bombling the German people."
Yes German people who voted in Hitler and nazis, fought in wermaht, worked in armament factories supporting the german war effort and profitted from German III Reich wars of agression etc... "They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind" as Hosea written. Everybody speaks about poor germn in dresden what about people in Warsaw, Roterdam, Belgrade, Coventry etc... all bombed mercilesly by nazi-german Luftwafe.
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The nips were much worse to allied prisoners then the Germans.My old Dr. the Dr. i used before he retierd yrs ago was captured by the Germans .He said the food was horrible but they weren'nt tortured or beaten by the Germans
Well I guess that he was not in Soviet Army, Not that Soviets were better to their POWs as Katyn showed; But Germans mistreated Serbian and Italians POWs as well. BTW was he Jewish?
Yes Jewish.. his last name sounds German and he looks North German,the Germans asked him if he was German which could have caused him problems.He said he was Dutch
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The nips were much worse to allied prisoners then the Germans.My old Dr. the Dr. i used before he retierd yrs ago was captured by the Germans .He said the food was horrible but they weren'nt tortured or beaten by the Germans
Well I guess that he was not in Soviet Army, Not that Soviets were better to their POWs as Katyn showed; But Germans mistreated Serbian and Italians POWs as well. BTW was he Jewish?
Yes Jewish.. his last name sounds German and he looks North German,the Germans asked him if he was German which could have caused him problems.He said he was Dutch
I thought so; they woud not be so nice if they knew he's Jewish.