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Guns and Self-Defense => Guns/Firearms => Topic started by: White Israelite on January 08, 2008, 06:43:03 PM
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This is why I am opposed to disarming "so called" mentally ill people.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bsdSjde0r18
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That's very disturbing. Democrats think that anyone who wants to own a gun is mentally deficient.
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Interesting, PTSD with a gun I say NO, Mental ill people I say NO, Adults with correct mental skills and knowledge Yes.
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Interesting, PTSD with a gun I say NO, Mental ill people I say NO, Adults with correct mental skills and knowledge Yes.
I'm bipolar, are you against me owning a gun?
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Interesting, PTSD with a gun I say NO, Mental ill people I say NO, Adults with correct mental skills and knowledge Yes.
I'm bipolar, are you against me owning a gun?
yes
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Interesting, PTSD with a gun I say NO, Mental ill people I say NO, Adults with correct mental skills and knowledge Yes.
I'm bipolar, are you against me owning a gun?
yes
That's wonderful to think that you believe I should be treated as a 2nd class citizen and do not have a right to protect myself.
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Interesting, PTSD with a gun I say NO, Mental ill people I say NO, Adults with correct mental skills and knowledge Yes.
I'm bipolar, are you against me owning a gun?
yes
That's wonderful to think that you believe I should be treated as a 2nd class citizen and do not have a right to protect myself.
I never said that you did.
And do you think anyone that is unarmed a second class citizen? Why ask a question you know you will not like the answer too?
This is my point you are not taking into account other ways to protect yourself. The gun doesn't not make you a man.
Just because you have a mental illness I am meant to feel sorry for you?
I have a moral code I will not break for anyone.
If you were in my unit, I would have you booted that far tomorrow would seem like yesterday.
Not that I don't like you as a person because I do very much, just you pose a risk, that I would never be willing to take.
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Interesting, PTSD with a gun I say NO, Mental ill people I say NO, Adults with correct mental skills and knowledge Yes.
I'm bipolar, are you against me owning a gun?
yes
That's wonderful to think that you believe I should be treated as a 2nd class citizen and do not have a right to protect myself.
I never said that you did.
And do you think anyone that is unarmed a second class citizen? Why ask a question you know you will not like the answer too?
This is my point you are not taking into account other ways to protect yourself. The gun doesn't not make you a man.
So how does me having a gun make me any more dangerous than driving a car?
Never know when I might have a mental breakdown and decide to run over a bunch of school kids during recess.
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So how does me having a gun make me any more dangerous than driving a car?
Never know when I might have a mental breakdown and decide to run over a bunch of school kids during recess.
You know as well as anyone else a car is not classed as a firearm. You know with that line of thinking, why do they have traffic laws and road rules, is it not my right to drive a car when I like, how I like and at what age I choose.
The answer is same as why there needs to be gun laws.
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So how does me having a gun make me any more dangerous than driving a car?
Never know when I might have a mental breakdown and decide to run over a bunch of school kids during recess.
You know as well as anyone else a car is not classed as a firearm. You know with that line of thinking, why do they have traffic laws and road rules, is it not my right to drive a car when I like, how I like and at what age I choose.
The answer is same as why there needs to be gun laws.
A firearm is a inanimate object just like a car, it requires an operator. The way I interpret your post is that a car is a completely different class of item therefore when a mentally ill person operates a vehicle, they can do so in a safe manner.
However when a mentally ill person encounters a firearm, handling of this object will turn the operator insane and cause them to go on a killing spree killing little timmy and his friend next door. The operator drops the firearm and returns to a sane state, realizes what he has done, crys, and then kills himself. Media has a field day and says "what a tragedy, more gun control laws! Mentally ill shouldn't have guns".
Ah I understand the logic now, well I better go to the gun buyback at walmart and buy a moped, I can't hurt anyone with that. ;)
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You may well know that a car can be classified as a deadly weapon when used improperly by Law Enforcement in certain situations.
However one has to be careful in dealing with RIGHTS vs Privileges. Driving a car is not addressed in the US Constitution but the right to bear arms is addressed. Makes a BIG difference. :-*
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So how does me having a gun make me any more dangerous than driving a car?
Never know when I might have a mental breakdown and decide to run over a bunch of school kids during recess.
You know as well as anyone else a car is not classed as a firearm. You know with that line of thinking, why do they have traffic laws and road rules, is it not my right to drive a car when I like, how I like and at what age I choose.
The answer is same as why there needs to be gun laws.
A firearm is a inanimate object just like a car, it requires an operator. The way I interpret your post is that a car is a completely different class of item therefore when a mentally ill person operates a vehicle, they can do so in a safe manner.
However when a mentally ill person encounters a firearm, handling of this object will turn the operator insane and cause them to go on a killing spree killing little timmy and his friend next door. The operator drops the firearm and returns to a sane state, realizes what he has done, crys, and then kills himself. Media has a field day and says "what a tragedy, more gun control laws! Mentally ill shouldn't have guns".
Ah I understand the logic now, well I better go to the gun buyback at walmart and buy a moped, I can't hurt anyone with that. ;)
Quite honestly I am not hugely in favour of mentally ill people driving either. I am sure you can find a way if you wished to hurt someonne. I have seen a plastic spoon used as a weapon.
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You may well know that a car can be classified as a deadly weapon when used improperly by Law Enforcement in certain situations.
However one has to be careful in dealing with RIGHTS vs Privileges. Driving a car is not addressed in the US Constitution but the right to bear arms is addressed. Makes a BIG difference. :-*
You are very affectionate man KJ with now kissing people, but still doesn't change that there are laws to govern ownership and use of a car, and reasons behind it. Same reasons why Mentally ill people should not have a gun.
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So how does me having a gun make me any more dangerous than driving a car?
Never know when I might have a mental breakdown and decide to run over a bunch of school kids during recess.
You know as well as anyone else a car is not classed as a firearm. You know with that line of thinking, why do they have traffic laws and road rules, is it not my right to drive a car when I like, how I like and at what age I choose.
The answer is same as why there needs to be gun laws.
A firearm is a inanimate object just like a car, it requires an operator. The way I interpret your post is that a car is a completely different class of item therefore when a mentally ill person operates a vehicle, they can do so in a safe manner.
However when a mentally ill person encounters a firearm, handling of this object will turn the operator insane and cause them to go on a killing spree killing little timmy and his friend next door. The operator drops the firearm and returns to a sane state, realizes what he has done, crys, and then kills himself. Media has a field day and says "what a tragedy, more gun control laws! Mentally ill shouldn't have guns".
Ah I understand the logic now, well I better go to the gun buyback at walmart and buy a moped, I can't hurt anyone with that. ;)
Quite honestly I am not hugely in favour of mentally ill people driving either. I am sure you can find a way if you wished to hurt someonne. I have seen a plastic spoon used as a weapon.
So your against mentally ill people driving a car as well then? And your telling me that you don't think that a mentally ill person would be a 2nd class citizen? Being deprived of the ability to drive or own a gun sounds like 2nd class citizenship to me.
I think the key word your thinking of here is mentally incompetent and those that are a danger to themselves. Not all mentally ill people are incompetent, should we class PMS as a mental disease?
How many people in the US do you think are on pills for depression or other causes? How about ADD? OCD?
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I think the KEY here is what is considered Mentally Ill? Having a bout of Depression or grieving from the lost of a loved one and needing antidepressants for a short term. Or how about someone that has been raped or assaulted and are now under treatment with medications and therapy?
One has to be very clear on what your classification of Mentally Ill is.
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So your against mentally ill people driving a car as well then? And your telling me that you don't think that a mentally ill person would be a 2nd class citizen?
Thats correct on all counts. I can't flight a plane so am I a second class citizen, I can't drive a train, Am I a second class citizen? the answer is no.
Just means I take other forms of transport, or have some one in control of the equipment.
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I think the KEY here is what is considered Mentally Ill? Having a bout of Depression or grieving from the lost of a loved one and needing antidepressants for a short term. Or how about someone that has been raped or assaulted and are now under treatment with medications and therapy?
One has to be very clear on what your classification of Mentally Ill is.
Clinically proven. As for short term, suspending access is generally a normal process. And after the attack is over, and 100% fit, then access is granted.
As it already does.
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Bipolar, PTSD, and especially someone who has been raped ought to be able to carry a gun. As for retards who can't feed themselves, or people who need to stay in straight jackets, no. Most of the people who are mentally ill enough are already "off the streets". And yes, being deprived of a Constitutional right does entail second-class citizenship. Besides, this law is a farce so they can go after anyone. If they listened to Chaim's videos, they would come up with some crap to diagnose him with.
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Retards?? When did people with disabilities or elders become retards.
Oh sorry you are 18 years old, what did I except.............
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Listen, I meant people who are so retarded that they can barely function alone. Obviously I don't think old people are retarded; I think they should have guns too. Besides, you can't say anything--you don't want Cohen to own a gun because he is bipolar. Clearly by his posts, he is very capable of owning a firearm. By the way, I'd wager to say that I am more intelligent than many "adults" out there.
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Listen, I meant people who are so retarded that they can barely function alone. Obviously I don't think old people are retarded; I think they should have guns too. Besides, you can't say anything--you don't want Cohen to own a gun because he is bipolar. Clearly by his posts, he is very capable of owning a firearm. By the way, I'd wager to say that I am more intelligent than many "adults" out there.
You didn't state that in your early post, and i think you just tried to pull yourself out of it.
I think you would lose your wager.
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Not all, but many. I can prove that I am smarter than millions of adults right now. There are millions of people in the democratic party, all of whom I am more intelligent than. :) No, by the way, I was not trying to "pull myself out of it" I would never say that old people with disabilities are retarded.
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Not all, but many. I can prove that I am smarter than millions of adults right now. There are millions of people in the democratic party, all of whom I am more intelligent than. :) No, by the way, I was not trying to "pull myself out of it" I would never say that old people with disabilities are retarded.
.As for retards who can't feed themselves
What was meant by that?
As for voting I am sure in America the people that vote at least can feed themselves ::)
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Not all, but many. I can prove that I am smarter than millions of adults right now. There are millions of people in the democratic party, all of whom I am more intelligent than. :) No, by the way, I was not trying to "pull myself out of it" I would never say that old people with disabilities are retarded.
.As for retards who can't feed themselves
What was meant by that?
As for voting I am sure in America the people that vote at least can feed themselves ::)
He's referring to the mentally disabled or a person with down syndrome.
And a car is pretty much a necessity in the US, just as much as a gun.
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Honestly I have been keeping an watch on this thread and I find something very disturbing. Just as those whom want to keep guns out the hands of the common citizen here in the USA. One can find an excuse or a reason to do this however let me quote for you from some famous Documents.
USA Bill Of Rights
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
There are no hidden meanings in this statement. When a person or persons start making footnotes as who can own and bear arms are going against the Founding Fathers of our Country.
American Disabilities Act
An individual with a disability is defined by the ADA as a person
who has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one
or more major life activities
This does not mean a person who has a disability is incapable of owning a firearm. You will agree a person with a Mental Illness falls into this listing. It all depends on how SEREVE the disability of course this should very carefully done. They Vote, Use Public Transport, Have equal access to education, Medical Care,etc....
Now what distrubs me is this thought process that one can not own a weapon based on another's opinion as to why one's AMERICAN right to bear arms.
What is next....This very mindset and track is what is getting people killed in our streets when you start chipping away at our freedoms. You can reason and think of reasons why someone does not have the right to own a weapon. HOW about changing the course and start thinking of why someone SHOULD own a firearm.
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.As for retards who can't feed themselves
What was meant by that?
As for voting I am sure in America the people that vote at least can feed themselves ::)
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He's referring to the mentally disabled or a person with down syndrome.
And a car is pretty much a necessity in the US, just as much as a gun.
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Yes, and as I pointed out, most of these people are "off the streets" and don't even think about guns anyway.
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Not all, but many. I can prove that I am smarter than millions of adults right now. There are millions of people in the democratic party, all of whom I am more intelligent than. :) No, by the way, I was not trying to "pull myself out of it" I would never say that old people with disabilities are retarded.
.As for retards who can't feed themselves
What was meant by that?
As for voting I am sure in America the people that vote at least can feed themselves ::)
He's referring to the mentally disabled or a person with down syndrome.
And a car is pretty much a necessity in the US, just as much as a gun.
Excuse me one can class you as a retard due to you are not normal either, kept that in mind. Retard is an offensive term, but hey what does that matter because they are different, could they be second class citizens...hmmm I wonder.
And a car is pretty much a necessity in the US, just as much as a gun
I am sure millions of Americans don't own cars or guns and they don't see it as a necessity.
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.As for retards who can't feed themselves
What was meant by that?
As for voting I am sure in America the people that vote at least can feed themselves ::)
He's referring to the mentally disabled or a person with down syndrome.
And a car is pretty much a necessity in the US, just as much as a gun.
Yes, and as I pointed out, most of these people are "off the streets" and don't even think about guns anyway.
What does that mean you keep them locked up in their homes?
What about home envasions?
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American Disabilities Act
An individual with a disability is defined by the ADA as a person
who has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one
or more major life activities
Funny I don't see RETARDS mentioned ;D :::D
Having a Disability is completely different diagnosis than mental illness.
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Actually under Social Security Act
Mental Illnesses do and are considered a disability
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Actually under Social Security Act
Mental Illnesses do and are considered a disability
For money yes, but medical conditions they are two very different things. America is very backward in alot of its medical areas, mental health is just an example.
The health system is there is so outdated its shocking. :(
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Well the plot thickens eh lol. Now your bashing our Health Care System :::D
Actually your misunderstanding of Disabilities Act is this in order to get the MONIES you have to be classified with a disability by a Physician that works with the Social Security Administration.
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Well the plot thickens eh lol. Now your bashing our Health Care System :::D
Actually your misunderstanding of Disabilities Act is this in order to get the MONIES you have to be classified with a disability by a Physician that works with the Social Security Administration.
Yes I bash it with a 10 foot pole from a great height, field work is one thing but going into a major US hospitals, and seeing the monkey run outfits is another.
I expected more from a country that was bragging about its care.
One thing I learnt early on, is to spot people that blow sugar up your skirt, doesn't half apply to that sector.
As a medical professional I can't accept sub standard conditions in a first world country. Yes I know I am Anal, but that what makes me a professional.
And thats just my option on your public sector, your veterans side............... G-d help you all. :(
My point still stands in a medical diagnosis, they are two very different things.
And I will point out once more MY statements APPLIES to ALL COUNTRIES not just America. I am not completely narrow focused.
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Hmmm sorry to say, but someone in here not mentioning any names sounds like they came from 1940's Germany. and Matt is perfectly capable of owning a firearm. And skippy if you dont like it, You can always leave my AMERICA
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Think you are confusing the terms so here is what they are.
mental illness
Any of various psychiatric conditions, usually characterized by impairment of an individual's normal cognitive, emotional, or behavioral functioning, and caused by physiological or psychosocial factors. Also called mental disease, mental disorder.
disability
1. inability to function normally, physically or mentally; incapacity.
2. anything that causes disability.
3. as defined by the federal government: ?inability to engage in any substantial gainful activity by reason of any medically determinable physical or mental impairment which can be expected to last or has lasted for a continuous period of not less than 12 months.?
developmental disability
a substantial handicap of indefinite duration, with onset before the age of 18 years, such as mental retardation, autism, cerebral palsy, epilepsy, or other neuropathy.
So in a nutshell people how have a Mental illness I don't support carrying firearms.
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Hmmm sorry to say, but someone in here not mentioning any names sounds like they came from 1940's Germany. and Matt is perfectly capable of owning a firearm. And skippy if you dont like it, You can always leave my AMERICA
Excuse me this is a Jewish forum covering all countrys so, scott you can leave if you wish. ANd I am not in America, this forum is NOT solely for AMERICA.
SO Scott kindly pull your head out your butt.
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Hmmm sorry to say, but someone in here not mentioning any names sounds like they came from 1940's Germany. and Matt is perfectly capable of owning a firearm. And skippy if you dont like it, You can always leave my AMERICA
And this is excatly the reason why narrow minded biggots will bring down this forum, and use it as a stand point to create a platform that has nothing to do with the jewish people or helping them in anyway.
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Hmmm sorry to say, but someone in here not mentioning any names sounds like they came from 1940's Germany. and Matt is perfectly capable of owning a firearm. And skippy if you dont like it, You can always leave my AMERICA
And this is excatly the reason why narrow minded biggots will bring down this forum, and use it as a stand point to create a platform that has nothing to do with the jewish people or helping them in anyway.
Self defense is a key to the Jewish peoples survival. We cannot rely on other countries to aid Israel or the government to protect Jews in America. The fundamental path to survival is to become independent. While there maybe a bad egg or two that spoil the forum, that in it's self shouldn't be a cause of concern. What is important is that we have individuals on the forum who are able to make decisions on their own from the mass of information provided on this forum.
One should expect different views, if we didn't have different views we'd all be robots and that wouldn't be good.
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Okay setting aside the debate of Mental Illness.
Rabbi Meir Kahane was very pro Gun. Matter of Fact he coined the phrase
"EVERY JEW A 22!"
The JTF was founded on JDL principles so in the spirit of Rabbi Kahane the JTF by default should be and is very pro weapons for the Jewish People for defense against our enemies.
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Self defense is a key to the Jewish peoples survival. We cannot rely on other countries to aid Israel or the government to protect Jews in America.
What are you saying that Israel should except no aid or assistence?
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Israel must depend on Ha Shem for her aid. Someday the fiscal well will run dry or be cut off by either design or malice.
She will have to stand alone and rely on Ha Shem for her aid.
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Okay setting aside the debate of Mental Illness.
Rabbi Meir Kahane was very pro Gun. Matter of Fact he coined the phrase
"EVERY JEW A 22!"
The JTF was founded on JDL principles so in the spirit of Rabbi Kahane the JTF by default should be and is very pro weapons for the Jewish People for defense against our enemies.
JTF was founded correctly on that principle, and most importantly JTF is law abiding.
I have no problems with a person with a Disability having a gun if they are capable.
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Israel must depend on Ha Shem for her aid. Someday the fiscal well will run dry or be cut off by either design or malice.
She will have to stand alone and rely on Ha Shem for her aid.
I am sure Israel will survive after she always has.
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Okay setting aside the debate of Mental Illness.
Rabbi Meir Kahane was very pro Gun. Matter of Fact he coined the phrase
"EVERY JEW A 22!"
The JTF was founded on JDL principles so in the spirit of Rabbi Kahane the JTF by default should be and is very pro weapons for the Jewish People for defense against our enemies.
JTF was founded correctly on that principle, and most importantly JTF is law abiding.
I have no problems with a person with a Disability having a gun if they are capable.
There's no law that prohibits me from possessing a firearm so why the opposition if I am mentally capable and qualified to own a firearm?
Let me guess, you don't trust someone with a mental illness therefore you don't feel I should be allowed to protect myself? So much pepper spray and a tazer will do against gestapo style raids when the SHTF.
I am armed purely for the fact I can, the more armed citizens, the more we keep the government in check.
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Okay setting aside the debate of Mental Illness.
Rabbi Meir Kahane was very pro Gun. Matter of Fact he coined the phrase
"EVERY JEW A 22!"
The JTF was founded on JDL principles so in the spirit of Rabbi Kahane the JTF by default should be and is very pro weapons for the Jewish People for defense against our enemies.
JTF was founded correctly on that principle, and most importantly JTF is law abiding.
I have no problems with a person with a Disability having a gun if they are capable.
There's no law that prohibits me from possessing a firearm so why the opposition if I am mentally capable and qualified to own a firearm?
Let me guess, you don't trust someone with a mental illness therefore you don't feel I should be allowed to protect myself? So much pepper spray and a tazer will do against gestapo style raids when the SHTF.
I am armed purely for the fact I can, the more armed citizens, the more we keep the government in check.
No American law thats correct, if you were in another country you would not have a firearm.
I never said you can't protect yourself, just not with a gun.
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Okay setting aside the debate of Mental Illness.
Rabbi Meir Kahane was very pro Gun. Matter of Fact he coined the phrase
"EVERY JEW A 22!"
The JTF was founded on JDL principles so in the spirit of Rabbi Kahane the JTF by default should be and is very pro weapons for the Jewish People for defense against our enemies.
JTF was founded correctly on that principle, and most importantly JTF is law abiding.
I have no problems with a person with a Disability having a gun if they are capable.
There's no law that prohibits me from possessing a firearm so why the opposition if I am mentally capable and qualified to own a firearm?
Let me guess, you don't trust someone with a mental illness therefore you don't feel I should be allowed to protect myself? So much pepper spray and a tazer will do against gestapo style raids when the SHTF.
I am armed purely for the fact I can, the more armed citizens, the more we keep the government in check.
No American law thats correct, if you were in another country you would not have a firearm.
I never said you can't protect yourself, just not with a gun.
Some people call religion a mental illness, you really want government control over something like firearms when they are already corrupt as is with what they do? You may think I'm "mentally ill" but that is societies term for it. You can't assume because someones on medication or goes through mood swings that suddenly they are incapable of handling themselves. You say I should be able to protect myself but not with a gun, you are still focusing on an inanimate tool thinking someone is dangerous with a gun but not other tools. You have yet to reinforce your position on this. I am deemed mentally qualified and am responsible for my own life. Likewise, do you feel people who experience PMS or have obsessive compulsive disorder, attention deficit disorder, or suffer depression have no right to arm themselves?
Your overall presentation to me is that you still feel government should have overall control of who should have a gun and strict requirements in keeping control. Do not take what I say as offensive but you have a dangerous mindset in regards to those similar previous to the holocaust that government should maintain strict control over firearm ownership. While Jews lived decent in Germany previous to Hitler (which the strict gun laws were put in place), Hitler took advantage of this system which he was able to disarm subjects he deemed "unfit" for firearm ownership.
I've been posting fact after fact where government regulation and control of firearms leads. How many of you have actually read the JPFO website or researched the Nazi gun control laws extensively?
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Okay setting aside the debate of Mental Illness.
Rabbi Meir Kahane was very pro Gun. Matter of Fact he coined the phrase
"EVERY JEW A 22!"
The JTF was founded on JDL principles so in the spirit of Rabbi Kahane the JTF by default should be and is very pro weapons for the Jewish People for defense against our enemies.
JTF was founded correctly on that principle, and most importantly JTF is law abiding.
I have no problems with a person with a Disability having a gun if they are capable.
There's no law that prohibits me from possessing a firearm so why the opposition if I am mentally capable and qualified to own a firearm?
Let me guess, you don't trust someone with a mental illness therefore you don't feel I should be allowed to protect myself? So much pepper spray and a tazer will do against gestapo style raids when the SHTF.
I am armed purely for the fact I can, the more armed citizens, the more we keep the government in check.
No American law thats correct, if you were in another country you would not have a firearm.
I never said you can't protect yourself, just not with a gun.
Some people call religion a mental illness, you really want government control over something like firearms when they are already corrupt as is with what they do? You may think I'm "mentally ill" but that is societies term for it. You can't assume because someones on medication or goes through mood swings that suddenly they are incapable of handling themselves. You say I should be able to protect myself but not with a gun, you are still focusing on an inanimate tool thinking someone is dangerous with a gun but not other tools. You have yet to reinforce your position on this. I am deemed mentally qualified and am responsible for my own life. Likewise, do you feel people who experience PMS or have obsessive compulsive disorder, attention deficit disorder, or suffer depression have no right to arm themselves?
Your overall presentation to me is that you still feel government should have overall control of who should have a gun and strict requirements in keeping control. Do not take what I say as offensive but you have a dangerous mindset in regards to those similar previous to the holocaust that government should maintain strict control over firearm ownership. While Jews lived decent in Germany previous to Hitler (which the strict gun laws were put in place), Hitler took advantage of this system which he was able to disarm subjects he deemed "unfit" for firearm ownership.
I've been posting fact after fact where government regulation and control of firearms leads. How many of you have actually read the JPFO website or researched the Nazi gun control laws extensively?
I have posted over and over again Mental illness = no guns.
And that it.
I think the USA has massive problems because of Lefties that scream my rights, I want I want I want!
Without focusing on the bigger picture.
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Okay setting aside the debate of Mental Illness.
Rabbi Meir Kahane was very pro Gun. Matter of Fact he coined the phrase
"EVERY JEW A 22!"
The JTF was founded on JDL principles so in the spirit of Rabbi Kahane the JTF by default should be and is very pro weapons for the Jewish People for defense against our enemies.
JTF was founded correctly on that principle, and most importantly JTF is law abiding.
I have no problems with a person with a Disability having a gun if they are capable.
There's no law that prohibits me from possessing a firearm so why the opposition if I am mentally capable and qualified to own a firearm?
Let me guess, you don't trust someone with a mental illness therefore you don't feel I should be allowed to protect myself? So much pepper spray and a tazer will do against gestapo style raids when the SHTF.
I am armed purely for the fact I can, the more armed citizens, the more we keep the government in check.
No American law thats correct, if you were in another country you would not have a firearm.
I never said you can't protect yourself, just not with a gun.
Some people call religion a mental illness, you really want government control over something like firearms when they are already corrupt as is with what they do? You may think I'm "mentally ill" but that is societies term for it. You can't assume because someones on medication or goes through mood swings that suddenly they are incapable of handling themselves. You say I should be able to protect myself but not with a gun, you are still focusing on an inanimate tool thinking someone is dangerous with a gun but not other tools. You have yet to reinforce your position on this. I am deemed mentally qualified and am responsible for my own life. Likewise, do you feel people who experience PMS or have obsessive compulsive disorder, attention deficit disorder, or suffer depression have no right to arm themselves?
Your overall presentation to me is that you still feel government should have overall control of who should have a gun and strict requirements in keeping control. Do not take what I say as offensive but you have a dangerous mindset in regards to those similar previous to the holocaust that government should maintain strict control over firearm ownership. While Jews lived decent in Germany previous to Hitler (which the strict gun laws were put in place), Hitler took advantage of this system which he was able to disarm subjects he deemed "unfit" for firearm ownership.
I've been posting fact after fact where government regulation and control of firearms leads. How many of you have actually read the JPFO website or researched the Nazi gun control laws extensively?
I have posted over and over again Mental illness = no guns.
And that it.
I think the USA has massive problems because of Lefties that scream my rights, I want I want I want!
Without focusing on the bigger picture.
Isn't it the lefties who preach about government regulation and control? Lefties are well known for supporting Gun Control.
I won't be giving up my guns, and I am disappointed on your stance as you continue to ignore the facts. I really worry for the future generation and fellow Jews who are not on the same level as KansasJew and myself.
What will you be saying when the government is rounding up our guns? It is for the good of the people and we can have tazers to fight back instead?
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Oh really "I want it, give it to me, have no laws, no rules, everyone is equal, everyone should have what they want" Sounds very Left and commie to me.
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Is it selfish to protect one's self from harm both physically and spiritually? I am concerned with your communist reference?
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Oh really "I want it, give it to me, have no laws, no rules, everyone is equal, everyone should have what they want" Sounds very Left and commie to me.
I'm not against laws, only when it comes to constitutionally guaranteed rights. By the way, communism was a very authoritarian type of government, in most communist countries (North Korea, Cuba, China) Internet is heavily regulated as well as freedom of speech. No surprise gun laws are strict there as well with the exception of Cuba which only allows a citizen to be armed while serving the military (no surprise that the firearms are not civilian owned but owned by the government). Lets not forget Europe who is very left wing and have some of the most strict gun laws in the world.
What part of the 2nd amendment do you not understand?
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Definition of "Infringed"
Definitions of infringe on the Web:
* conflict: go against, as of rules and laws; "He ran afoul of the law"; "This behavior conflicts with our rules"
* encroach: advance beyond the usual limit
I didn't realize abiding by the constitution made someone a communist now? I am against laws that infringe on the constitution and constitutional rights. Big difference.
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Is it selfish to protect one's self from harm both physically and spiritually? I am concerned with your communist reference?
Do you have a point?
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OK, Skippy, a couple of points.
Number One: Learn to spell. It is home "invasion" not "envasion". And in the case you were using it, you should have spelled it "accept" (foreign aid), not "except". And "bigots" only has one "g".
Number Two: My terminology about "off the streets" is a spoof on the mantra we hear in America coming from anti-gun extremists. My point was that most people who can't live on their own are in the care of someone else and are thus "off the streets".
Number Three: Retarded people are called retards, so that is what I will use. Political correctness is killing this country.
Number Four: American law is the only law that matters to us, since that is where we live. O0 All the rest of the world's gun laws are CRAP! (Except Switzerland)
Number Five: America has the best health care system in the world. Don't give me statistics about life expectancy. The only reasons Americans have a lower life expectancy is because of accidents. The reason we have more accidents is because we live life more than other people, since our government has not outlawed everything fun yet. People come from Canada all the time to get health care here, since they will die or get permanant damage from the ridiculously long lines of the Socialized Canadian health care system, if you can call it a health care system.
Number Six: Your point about being classed a retard because someone is different is exactly our point: don't give the government more control over things like this.
Number Seven: Yes, being disabled and mentally ill(terminology used for your sake) are different. People with physical disabilities should definitely have a gun. I know a retarded guy who is a "buggy man" (buggy man is a Southern term) who lives on his own. I would trust him to have a gun. If you are too retarded to live on your own, then your caregivers will decide if you have a gun or not.
But what I say doesn't matter, after all, I'm only 18...
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Oh really "I want it, give it to me, have no laws, no rules, everyone is equal, everyone should have what they want" Sounds very Left and commie to me.
I'm not against laws, only when it comes to constitutionally guaranteed rights. By the way, communism was a very authoritarian type of government, in most communist countries (North Korea, Cuba, China) Internet is heavily regulated as well as freedom of speech. No surprise gun laws are strict there as well with the exception of Cuba which only allows a citizen to be armed while serving the military (no surprise that the firearms are not civilian owned but owned by the government). Lets not forget Europe who is very left wing and have some of the most strict gun laws in the world.
What part of the 2nd amendment do you not understand?
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Definition of "Infringed"
Definitions of infringe on the Web:
* conflict: go against, as of rules and laws; "He ran afoul of the law"; "This behavior conflicts with our rules"
* encroach: advance beyond the usual limit
I didn't realize abiding by the constitution made someone a communist now? I am against laws that infringe on the constitution and constitutional rights. Big difference.
Now you go back to America way of thinking, use a law when it suits you, go against it when it doesn't.
Fact remains mentally ill should not have guns.
And everyone is equal regardless of the rights of others is a commie doctrine.
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Oh really "I want it, give it to me, have no laws, no rules, everyone is equal, everyone should have what they want" Sounds very Left and commie to me.
I'm not against laws, only when it comes to constitutionally guaranteed rights. By the way, communism was a very authoritarian type of government, in most communist countries (North Korea, Cuba, China) Internet is heavily regulated as well as freedom of speech. No surprise gun laws are strict there as well with the exception of Cuba which only allows a citizen to be armed while serving the military (no surprise that the firearms are not civilian owned but owned by the government). Lets not forget Europe who is very left wing and have some of the most strict gun laws in the world.
What part of the 2nd amendment do you not understand?
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Definition of "Infringed"
Definitions of infringe on the Web:
* conflict: go against, as of rules and laws; "He ran afoul of the law"; "This behavior conflicts with our rules"
* encroach: advance beyond the usual limit
I didn't realize abiding by the constitution made someone a communist now? I am against laws that infringe on the constitution and constitutional rights. Big difference.
Now you go back to America way of thinking, use a law when it suits you, go against it when it doesn't.
Fact remains mentally ill should not have guns.
And everyone is equal regardless of the rights of others is a commie doctrine.
The opening of the Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776, states as follows:
“ We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."
So Thomas Jefferson is a communist?
The quotation "All men are created equal" is arguably the best-known phrase in any of America's political documents, as the idea it expresses is generally considered the foundation of American democracy. Thomas Jefferson first used the phrase in the Declaration of Independence.
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It is Communist to have equal rights endowed by Ha Shem?
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OK, Skippy, a couple of points.
Number One: Learn to spell. It is home "invasion" not "envasion". And in the case you were using it, you should have spelled it "accept" (foreign aid), not "except. And "bigots" only has one "g".
One I don't care how I spell you understood it didn't you?
Number Two: My terminology about "off the streets" is a spoof on the mantra we hear in America coming from anti-gun extremists. My point was that most people who can't live on their own are in the care of someone else and are thus "off the streets".
American slang great , next come rap :::D ::)
Number Three: Retarded people are called retards, so that is what I will use. Political correctness is killing this country.
Its called respect something you know little about, People with disabilities are people too.
Number Four: American law is the only law that matters to us, since that is where we live. O0 All the rest of the world's gun laws are CRAP! (Except Switzerland)
This is a forum that supports Israel and Western countries clearly you are in the wrong place. If you believe the USA is the only place that matters.
Number Five: America has the best health care system in the world. Don't give me statistics about life expectancy. The only reasons Americans have a lower life expectancy is because of accidents. The reason we have more accidents is because we live life more than other people, since our government has not outlawed everything fun yet. People come from Canada all the time to get health care here, since they will die or get permanant damage from the ridiculously long lines of the Socialized Canadian health care system, if you can call it a health care system.
LOL what a completely stupid statement :::D
Number Six: Your point about being classed a retard because someone is different is exactly our point: don't give the government more control over things like this.
You are not even begining your life no life expereince no nothing, and you tell the world what to think :::D I love it :::D
Number Seven: Yes, being disabled and mentally ill(terminology used for your sake) are different. People with physical disabilities should definitely have a gun. I know a retarded guy who is a "buggy man" (buggy man is a Southern term) who lives on his own. I would trust him to have a gun. If you are too retarded to live on your own, then your caregivers will decide if you have a gun or not.
You are a kid with little judgement and experience
But what I say doesn't matter, after all, I'm only 18...
It matters because you have not choosen to think beyond your own nose.
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Oh really "I want it, give it to me, have no laws, no rules, everyone is equal, everyone should have what they want" Sounds very Left and commie to me.
I'm not against laws, only when it comes to constitutionally guaranteed rights. By the way, communism was a very authoritarian type of government, in most communist countries (North Korea, Cuba, China) Internet is heavily regulated as well as freedom of speech. No surprise gun laws are strict there as well with the exception of Cuba which only allows a citizen to be armed while serving the military (no surprise that the firearms are not civilian owned but owned by the government). Lets not forget Europe who is very left wing and have some of the most strict gun laws in the world.
What part of the 2nd amendment do you not understand?
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Definition of "Infringed"
Definitions of infringe on the Web:
* conflict: go against, as of rules and laws; "He ran afoul of the law"; "This behavior conflicts with our rules"
* encroach: advance beyond the usual limit
I didn't realize abiding by the constitution made someone a communist now? I am against laws that infringe on the constitution and constitutional rights. Big difference.
Now you go back to America way of thinking, use a law when it suits you, go against it when it doesn't.
Fact remains mentally ill should not have guns.
And everyone is equal regardless of the rights of others is a commie doctrine.
The opening of the Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776, states as follows:
“ We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."
So Thomas Jefferson is a communist?
The quotation "All men are created equal" is arguably the best-known phrase in any of America's political documents, as the idea it expresses is generally considered the foundation of American democracy. Thomas Jefferson first used the phrase in the Declaration of Independence.
Jefferson was a Mason, shall we become Masons now?
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It is Communist to have equal rights endowed by Ha Shem?
Its a communist to put your wants above the laws of a land and scream equality in a land of freedom.
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Since when are laws of the Land becomes superior to the Laws of Ha Shem?
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Since when are laws of the Land becomes superior to the Laws of Ha Shem?
When does the USA become superior to Israel?
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Oh really "I want it, give it to me, have no laws, no rules, everyone is equal, everyone should have what they want" Sounds very Left and commie to me.
I'm not against laws, only when it comes to constitutionally guaranteed rights. By the way, communism was a very authoritarian type of government, in most communist countries (North Korea, Cuba, China) Internet is heavily regulated as well as freedom of speech. No surprise gun laws are strict there as well with the exception of Cuba which only allows a citizen to be armed while serving the military (no surprise that the firearms are not civilian owned but owned by the government). Lets not forget Europe who is very left wing and have some of the most strict gun laws in the world.
What part of the 2nd amendment do you not understand?
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Definition of "Infringed"
Definitions of infringe on the Web:
* conflict: go against, as of rules and laws; "He ran afoul of the law"; "This behavior conflicts with our rules"
* encroach: advance beyond the usual limit
I didn't realize abiding by the constitution made someone a communist now? I am against laws that infringe on the constitution and constitutional rights. Big difference.
Now you go back to America way of thinking, use a law when it suits you, go against it when it doesn't.
Fact remains mentally ill should not have guns.
And everyone is equal regardless of the rights of others is a commie doctrine.
The opening of the Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776, states as follows:
“ We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."
So Thomas Jefferson is a communist?
The quotation "All men are created equal" is arguably the best-known phrase in any of America's political documents, as the idea it expresses is generally considered the foundation of American democracy. Thomas Jefferson first used the phrase in the Declaration of Independence.
Jefferson was a Mason, shall we become Masons now?
Declaring the equality of all men did not, however, prevent the United States from continuing the widespread practice of slavery. However, President Abraham Lincoln relied on the Declaration of Independence when making the case that slavery went against the deepest commitments of the American nation. Though he did so throughout the 1850s and into his presidency, the most famous example can be found in the Gettysburg Address:
“ Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."
Was Lincoln a free mason?
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We are talking about UNITED STATES of AMERICA rights as it is written in the Consitution and in the Torah for all human beings.
Since when did this become USA vs ISRAEL?
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ONE: Your incorrect spelling proves my point about my being smarter than a lot of adults.
TWO: I will have you know that I hate rap. I think there were many great European authors who used plays on words; I thought you would be cultured enough to get that, but appearantly not.
THREE: Yes, they are people, so they should have the right to own guns.
FOUR: I support Israel and I wish that Western Europe would get out of its descent into becoming a complete craphole. If their laws were more like ours, then that would help them.
FIVE: And pray tell, what socialized paradise do you hail from? It's very mature and shows much life experience on your part when you can't come up with a legitimate counter-argument, and instead resort to "what a completely stupid statement".
SIX: I'm a fast learner!
SEVEN: On whose scale, yours?
And YOU HAVE thought beyond your nose??
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Declaring the equality of all men did not, however, prevent the United States from continuing the widespread practice of slavery. However, President Abraham Lincoln relied on the Declaration of Independence when making the case that slavery went against the deepest commitments of the American nation. Though he did so throughout the 1850s and into his presidency, the most famous example can be found in the Gettysburg Address:
“ Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."
Was Lincoln a free mason?
Cohen the founding fathers of the USA were freemasons its well known. If you want to debate the history of the USA put it in the Save America section ::), where you can run up the banner as much as you like. ::)
I think you are highjacking the thread off the issue of mental illness.
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Excuse me!
Now your bashing our history lol lol. What difference does it make if they were free masons? Do you know any free masons?
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It's "hijacking", not "highjacking".
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Declaring the equality of all men did not, however, prevent the United States from continuing the widespread practice of slavery. However, President Abraham Lincoln relied on the Declaration of Independence when making the case that slavery went against the deepest commitments of the American nation. Though he did so throughout the 1850s and into his presidency, the most famous example can be found in the Gettysburg Address:
“ Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."
Was Lincoln a free mason?
Cohen the founding fathers of the USA were freemasons its well known. If you want to debate the history of the USA put it in the Save America section ::), where you can run up the banner as much as you like. ::)
I think you are highjacking the thread off the issue of mental illness.
Why does it matter what our founding fathers are? You either follow the constitution (as an American citizen which I am) or you don't.
You are against my right (protected by the constitution) to bear arms because you don't feel those who are classified as mentally ill should have them, you then went on to how being a supporter of equality and no restrictions on arms was similar to communism which I pointed out our founding fathers were not communists and were against restrictions on our right to bear arms as well hence "shall not be infringed". The constitution has plenty to do with firearms, it's what protects us from the government taking away our right to bear arms. Unfortunately the government doesn't respect the constitution hence the assault weapon ban in california, the machine gun regulation in 1934, the gun control act of 1968, and turning everyone into the country mentally ill or into a felon so the government can attempt to make up excuses to take away our arms slowly step by step.
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ONE: Your incorrect spelling proves my point about my being smarter than a lot of adults.
No means you use the spell check button. ::)
TWO: I will have you know that I hate rap. I think there were many great European authors who used plays on words, I thought you would be cultured enough to get that, but appearantly not.
I don't approve american slang culture is very black based.
THREE: Yes, they are people, so they should have the right to own guns.
Oh I a point I agree on, people with disablilies yes, people with mental illness no. :)
FOUR: I support Israel and I wish that Western Europe would get out of its descent into becoming a complete craphole. If their laws were more like ours, then that would help them.
So the world has to change and become America?
FIVE: And pray tell, what socialized paradise do you hail from? It's very mature and shows much life experience on your part when you can't come up with a legitimate counter-argument, and instead resort to "what a completely stupid statement".
I can say from a country that does look after its people. O0
SIX: I'm a fast learner!
Good you will need to be. 8;)
SEVEN: On whose scale, yours?
On anybodies that has a job, owns a house, and serves their country, and that are honest.
And you have thought beyond your nose?
Yes that why I support Jews all over the world.
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Excuse me!
Now your bashing our history lol lol. What difference does it make if they were free masons? Do you know any free masons?
LOL well in for a penny in for a pound :::D
Difference you choose one set of ideas over another.
And i can't see what history has to do with mentally ill people and guns, unless they were mentally ill when the created the laws of course :::D
Yes I know many masons.
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It's "hijacking", not "highjacking".
Good for you a gold star coming your way O0
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Actually there is a problem with your statement in knowing any Masons.
They are a secert organization and they are not allowed to even tell their wifes they are Masons.
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Actually there is a problem with your statement in knowing any Masons.
They are a secert organization and they are not allowed to even tell their wifes they are Masons.
Haha is far from secret here, you guys still go around like the darkages :::D
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Okay "You guys" are you trying to infer I am a Free Mason?
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ROLMFAO! Thats your whole problem, just worked it out. You are so stuck in the past and never moved. :::D :::D
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Okay "You guys" are you trying to infer I am a Free Mason?
Are you, can you do the secret hand shake ^-^
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ROLMFAO! Thats your whole problem, just worked it out. You are so stuck in the past and never moved. :::D :::D
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Are you accusing anyone that follows the Constitution of being a free mason? Do you have a problem with the constitution?
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No Jew worth his salt or gold in weight would belong to the Free Masons. I suggest you may want to rethink your veiw of me.
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Are you accusing anyone that follows the Constitution of being a free mason? Do you have a problem with the constitution?
I am accusing no one. ^-^
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No Jew worth his salt or gold in weight would belong to the Free Masons. I suggest you may want to rethink your veiw of me.
My view of you? Well currently I don't have one.
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Are you accusing anyone that follows the Constitution of being a free mason? Do you have a problem with the constitution?
I am accusing no one. ^-^
Then why are you so concerned about American gun laws when they don't directly affect you?
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Are you accusing anyone that follows the Constitution of being a free mason? Do you have a problem with the constitution?
I am accusing no one. ^-^
Then why are you so concerned about American gun laws when they don't directly affect you?
They effect Jews there for I am interested in only protecting Jews. And having less chance of crazy people having guns and killing Jews the better. As for America thats their problem, they are not the Jews.
Gentiles are capable of looking after themselves.
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So once again if no one had guns the world would be a safer place?
There are other weapons that have been used against the Jewish People. You can do harm to a Jewish Person without a weapon. Your words and actions can and are more lethal.
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So once again if no one had guns the world would be a safer place?
There are other weapons that have been used against the Jewish People. You can do harm to a Jewish Person without a weapon. Your words and actions can and are more lethal.
No the world would not be safer. I aggree with people being armed, But they need to be trained, adult and sane.
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Okay I got ya. Who dictates who is sane? Do you have absolute trust in the Authorities?
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Are you accusing anyone that follows the Constitution of being a free mason? Do you have a problem with the constitution?
I am accusing no one. ^-^
Then why are you so concerned about American gun laws when they don't directly affect you?
They effect Jews there for I am interested in only protecting Jews. And having less chance of crazy people having guns and killing Jews the better. As for America thats their problem, they are not the Jews.
Gentiles are capable of looking after themselves.
So your solution to that is by violating the constitution and disarming law abiding citizens (including myself because you feel I am not mentally qualified to own a gun) because you think it'll reduce crazy people getting guns?
By the way i'm Jewish, i'm glad you think I should be completely helpless and only able to use pepper spray and a tazer to defend against neo nazis that are likely convicted felons and bought their AK47 illegally off the street.
Gee that worked well in the Jewish community centers where the shootings happened and all the Jews were unarmed.
I bet Hitler was only making Germany a safer place for Jews by disarming them and crazy people as well.
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Okay I got ya. Who dictates who is sane? Do you have absolute trust in the Authorities?
A team of medical professionals with over 30 years of combined knowledge. Yes I trust them over Joe down the street. O0
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That is a difference between the two of us. I too work in the Medical Field. These are human beings with flaws and weaknesses that do make mistakes. You have to have some common sense and hold up those decisions against Ha Shem's Torah and see if it matches.
Absolute Faith in any one or group of Authorities is Dangerous. Ha Shem gave each of us a mind to use. However I am Jewish enough to respect your opinion no matter how wrong it is :::D
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Are you accusing anyone that follows the Constitution of being a free mason? Do you have a problem with the constitution?
I am accusing no one. ^-^
Then why are you so concerned about American gun laws when they don't directly affect you?
They effect Jews there for I am interested in only protecting Jews. And having less chance of crazy people having guns and killing Jews the better. As for America thats their problem, they are not the Jews.
Gentiles are capable of looking after themselves.
So your solution to that is by violating the constitution and disarming law abiding citizens (including myself because you feel I am not mentally qualified to own a gun) because you think it'll reduce crazy people getting guns?
By the way i'm Jewish, i'm glad you think I should be completely helpless and only able to use pepper spray and a tazer to defend against neo nazis that are likely convicted felons and bought their AK47 illegally off the street.
Gee that worked well in the Jewish community centers where the shootings happened and all the Jews were unarmed.
I bet Hitler was only making Germany a safer place for Jews by disarming them and crazy people as well.
The constitution is neither here nor there ::) And yes Cohen there are always people armed more than you there will always be that way. Same idea keeping up with the Jones that sparked the arms race.
Did that very stop conflicts and wars ............arrggh no. ???
Jew or not Mentally Ill people shouldn't have guns.
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However I am Jewish enough to respect your opinion no matter how wrong it is :::D
Ditto :::D
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Okay I got ya. Who dictates who is sane? Do you have absolute trust in the Authorities?
A team of medical professionals with over 30 years of combined knowledge. Yes I trust them over Joe down the street. O0
I think I can take control of my own life while bearing arms thank you. Or would you prefer (like you prefer disarming me and taking away my car) that law dictates I have a muzzle over my mouth so I don't bite one when I go into a insane state, a leash so I don't walk off into traffic when I feel suicidal, breaking my legs and arms so I don't wander around and potentially hurt someone, taking away all knifes and forks in the house so I don't stab someone, amongst other things?
We're not babies you know, yet you still claim that one can live a perfectly healthy life as a citizen without having a gun or a car amongst other things. I don't know if your Jewish but the behavior is not very Jewish at all. If you read Torah and understand our history, then you would understand where gun control leads yet you still support the very laws that were used in Nazi Germany and Communist Soviet Union that resulted in the deaths of millions. Your idea that protecting Jews by disarming people sounds very similar to the socialist ideaology in modern day Europe in the means of a "safer society". And we all know what Socialism ties into, it's the same thing that's a cancer in Israel today.
You talk about all this regulation, that indicates you are an Authoritarian. Same thing that the liberal democrats support.
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Okay I got ya. Who dictates who is sane? Do you have absolute trust in the Authorities?
A team of medical professionals with over 30 years of combined knowledge. Yes I trust them over Joe down the street. O0
I think I can take control of my own life while bearing arms thank you.
Oh how many times have I heard that lol.
Yes I sure you perfectly sane, its just the whole world is out to get you. ;)
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Okay I got ya. Who dictates who is sane? Do you have absolute trust in the Authorities?
A team of medical professionals with over 30 years of combined knowledge. Yes I trust them over Joe down the street. O0
I think I can take control of my own life while bearing arms thank you.
Oh how many times have I heard that lol.
Yes I sure you perfectly sane, its just the whole world is out to get you. ;)
A little bit stereotypical aren't we? I think the majority of Jews have these thoughts, would you class those that talk about Islam and terrorism all the time to be paranoid and mentally ill?
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Okay I got ya. Who dictates who is sane? Do you have absolute trust in the Authorities?
A team of medical professionals with over 30 years of combined knowledge. Yes I trust them over Joe down the street. O0
I think I can take control of my own life while bearing arms thank you.
Oh how many times have I heard that lol.
Yes I sure you perfectly sane, its just the whole world is out to get you. ;)
A little bit stereotypical aren't we? I think the majority of Jews have these thoughts, would you class those that talk about Islam and terrorism all the time to be paranoid and mentally ill?
I never class a sane Jew in that way.
Stereotypical is claiming the disease does not effect the mentally ill person. ;)
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Just a little correction if you are speaking of the mental ill the correct use in grammar would be affect. :P
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Just a little correction if you are speaking of the mental ill the correct use in grammar would be affect. :P
What you are grammer Nazi too now :::D
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/Ockiwi/9729272-2-1.jpg)
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Just a little correction if you are speaking of the mental ill the correct use in grammar would be affect. :P
What you are grammer Nazi too now :::D
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/Ockiwi/9729272-2-1.jpg)
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well honesty is a key in Judaism just sharing what I know :laugh:
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well honesty is a key in Judaism just sharing what I know :laugh:
True enough :::D :::D
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ONE: There is not even a spell check button on this forum. If there were one, why aren't you using it?
TWO: I was not using "black slang", it was a clever play on words, I thought a cultured person like yourself could appreciate that. There are plenty of slang words in America that do not originate from black people. You are not as educated on your American slang as you think.
THREE: Depends on your definition of mentally ill. Our whole point here is that when you give a governmnet who doesn't like you control over determining who is mentally ill, they will say that everyone who disagrees with them is mentally ill.
FOUR: Either that, or stop running it down.
FIVE: If your country is so great, and you are so proud of it, why don't you tell us which one it is?
SIX: Good, because I am.
SEVEN: Why don't you share with us how you serve your country?
Well, if, by your own admission, supporting Jews all over the world entails having thought beyond one's nose, then I have thought beyond my nose.
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ONE: There is not even a spell check button on this forum. If there were one, why aren't you using it?
Because i don't want too :)
TWO: I was not using "black slang", it was a clever play on words, I thought a cultured person like yourself could appreciate that. There are plenty of slang words in America that do not originate from black people. You are not as educated on your American slang as you think.
OH sorry did I really give you the impression I cared .... oh me bad :::D
THREE: Depends on your definition of mentally ill. Our whole point here is that when you give a governmnet who doesn't like you control over determining who is mentally ill, they will say that everyone who disagrees with them is mentally ill.
Anti Government you are so sounding like a : Anarchist :::D
FOUR: Either that, or stop running it down.
HUH? whats that about? Never mind some part of your dribble I guess
FIVE: If your country is so great, and you are so proud of it, why don't you tell us which one it is?
You got to be kidding me? Have you not looked on the front of this forum, I am a mod nuff.
Try looking the Australia New Zealand section ::) I know you looked at me profile, andyou pride yourself on being clever :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
SIX: Good, because I am.
Am what? a kid.
SEVEN: Why don't you share with us how you serve your country?
Every one knows on this forum I am retired military.
Well, if, by your own admission, supporting Jews all over the world entails having thought beyond one's nose, then I have thought beyond my nose.
Good for you, see you learnt nothing tho.
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ONE: There's not one anyway.
TWO:"OH sorry did I really give you the impression I cared .... oh me bad"... another example of resorting to insults when you can't come up with a legitimate counter argument.
THREE: And you are so sounding like a: communist.
FOUR: Remember, you asked if everyone should become America. I said either that or stop putting it down. Memory problems??
FIVE: My life does not center around where you are from. I just thought you might have enough pride in your wonderful country to tell us what it is. You still haven't said which one, only narrowed it down to two. Why would I go to the Australia/New Zealand board anyway?
SIX: No, a fast learner.
SEVEN: How many wars has Australia or New Zealand been in recently?
Yes, actually, I have "learnt" plenty.
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ONE: There's not one anyway.
tried looking at the button that says spellcheck
TWO:"OH sorry did I really give you the impression I cared .... oh me bad"... another example of resorting to insults when you can't come up with a legitimate counter argument.
i see you as a troll so i am dealing with you as a kiddie troll 8;)
THREE: And you are so sounding like a: communist.
Haha you idiot
FOUR: Remember, you asked if everyone should become America. I said either that or stop putting it down. Memory problems??
What was that.....can't quite remeber .....who are you again?
FIVE: My life does not center around where you are from. I just thought you might have enough pride in your wonderful country to tell us what it is. You still haven't said which one, only narrowed it down to two. Why would I go to the Australia/New Zealand board anyway?
I belong to both 8;)
SIX: No, a fast learner.
Oh i find you very slow
SEVEN: How many wars has Australia or New Zealand been in recently?
Haha what you got to be kidding me again :::D :::D :::D :::D We are in the same wars as the US we are always along aside, as the Allied forces, you are so friggin stupid :::D :::D :::D
Yes, actually, I have "learnt" plenty.
What how to be a complete twat. You know nothing about what your country is even doing.
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Okay what is this banter? Sounds like my children fighting over who is smarter and gets the brownie points on who has the bigger mouth :P
Now kiss and make up! Or Else >:(
Where is my virtual belt when I need one.
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Okay what is this banter? Sounds like my children fighting over who is smarter and gets the brownie points on who has the bigger mouth :P
Now kiss and make up! Or Else >:(
Where is my virtual belt when I need one.
:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
You use your virtual belt, your virtual pants might not stay up ;D