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Title: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 09, 2008, 09:41:12 PM
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"Yes, and he also Requires Jews to stick together. Is it not obvious by reading a Tanakh that we stick together against the Gentiles?"......NOLANDFORSHALOM
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 09, 2008, 09:44:18 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: judeanoncapta on January 09, 2008, 09:47:21 PM
I'm not saying that our struggle is with all gentiles, of course not.


But have you read the books of joshua and judges?

The Prophets were not exactly kind to the gentiles around them.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 09, 2008, 09:50:04 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 09, 2008, 09:52:05 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

He  didn't say "bad gentiles"  he just said gentiles.  If  he qualified it, I wouldn't have a problem with it...Excuse me but shouldn't Jews be against  "bad Jews" who push their own agendas (liberal, selfish etc)?
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 09, 2008, 09:54:09 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

He  didn't say "bad gentiles"  he just said gentiles.  If  he qualified it, I wouldn't have a problem with it...Excuse me but shouldn't Jews be against  "bad Jews" who push their own agendas (liberal, selfish etc)?

I know he didn't say that read the post correctly I said Bad Gentiles  ;)
Thats why it was quoted, so people know my comments on the issue.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 09, 2008, 09:55:29 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

He  didn't say "bad gentiles"  he just said gentiles.  If  he qualified it, I wouldn't have a problem with it...Excuse me but shouldn't Jews be against  "bad Jews" who push their own agendas (liberal, selfish etc)?

I know he didn't say that read the post correctly I said Bad Gentiles  ;)
Thats why it was quoted, so people know my comments on the issue.
true you said bad gentiles...but Noland just said gentiles..
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: judeanoncapta on January 09, 2008, 09:57:32 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

He  didn't say "bad gentiles"  he just said gentiles.  If  he qualified it, I wouldn't have a problem with it...Excuse me but shouldn't Jews be against  "bad Jews" who push their own agendas (liberal, selfish etc)?

Gimme a break.

Chaim Ben Pesach and the people of this forum attack self-hating Jews with the most violent rhetoric imaginable. chaim has called openly for their deaths.

What more do you want?
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 09, 2008, 09:59:02 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then Muslims are also a race. They go by patrilineal descent.

I don't care about Muslims.


You are Born a Jew correct, so its the blood that runs through your veins. DNA is what makes a race.

You can covert thats a belief system. Thats a religion.

Its a race and religion, ways has always will be.

Adam and Eve was the start of the Jewish people correct? Only two made from the one source, a start of a race, that no one was even like it on the planet.



Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 09, 2008, 10:00:24 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

He  didn't say "bad gentiles"  he just said gentiles.  If  he qualified it, I wouldn't have a problem with it...Excuse me but shouldn't Jews be against  "bad Jews" who push their own agendas (liberal, selfish etc)?

I know he didn't say that read the post correctly I said Bad Gentiles  ;)
Thats why it was quoted, so people know my comments on the issue.
true you said bad gentiles...but Noland just said gentiles..

Yes so? I mean Bad Gentiles, they are different to Good Gentiles that support Jews. As I said that was MY OPINION  ::)
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 09, 2008, 10:02:42 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

He  didn't say "bad gentiles"  he just said gentiles.  If  he qualified it, I wouldn't have a problem with it...Excuse me but shouldn't Jews be against  "bad Jews" who push their own agendas (liberal, selfish etc)?



Gimme a break.

Chaim Ben Pesach and the people of this forum attack self-hating Jews with the most violent rhetoric imaginable. chaim has called openly for their deaths.

What more do you want?


this is true Judea, but noland doesn't seem to understand this...from what I read, Noland just brings up that the Jews should be against the gentiles, and not make allies with them..True G_d is the only true ally, but this stance of "us(jews)" against all of "them"(gentiles) is assanine.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: judeanoncapta on January 09, 2008, 10:59:43 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

He  didn't say "bad gentiles"  he just said gentiles.  If  he qualified it, I wouldn't have a problem with it...Excuse me but shouldn't Jews be against  "bad Jews" who push their own agendas (liberal, selfish etc)?



Gimme a break.

Chaim Ben Pesach and the people of this forum attack self-hating Jews with the most violent rhetoric imaginable. chaim has called openly for their deaths.

What more do you want?


this is true Judea, but noland doesn't seem to understand this...from what I read, Noland just brings up that the Jews should be against the gentiles, and not make allies with them..True G_d is the only true ally, but this stance of "us(jews)" against all of "them"(gentiles) is assanine.

Well, i don't want to fight people.

I just want to implement the Torah on a state level in Israel. It desn't bother me at all what gentiles do or do not do.

I don't even want revenge for past injustices.

I just want us to beable to worship our G-d fully and alone. It doesn't bother mr what anyone else does outside of Israel.

5 For let all the peoples walk each one in the name of its G-d, but we will walk in the name of the LORD our G-d for ever and ever.

As long as the nations of the world allow us to truly worhsip our G-d and that means the Temple, Throne of David resored the whole nine yards, I am not against any gentile on planet earth in any way.

Anyone who helps us, I am thankful.

Anyone who leaves us alone, I'm even more thankful.

Anyone who wants to deprive of us of our destiny, I'm fully and completely their enemy.

You seem to either want to help Jews or leave them alone so I am certainly not your enemy.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Nolandforshalom on January 09, 2008, 11:11:46 PM
I find it very hard to believe that simply because I did not word my point correctly the entire forum jumps on me. I did not mean all gentiles. I meant those who are a danger to us. The Muslims, the Arabs, the Radical Christians(such as the Klan)
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 09, 2008, 11:13:57 PM
I find it very hard to believe that simply because I did not word my point correctly the entire forum jumps on me. I did not mean all gentiles. I meant those who are a danger to us. The Muslims, the Arabs, the Radical Christians(such as the Klan)

come on Noland, that goes without saying
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Nolandforshalom on January 09, 2008, 11:14:47 PM
It did not seem so from what people were saying. I am sorry if I misrepresented my beliefs; I have nothing personal against your average Gentile..
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 09, 2008, 11:18:24 PM
I find it very hard to believe that simply because I did not word my point correctly the entire forum jumps on me. I did not mean all gentiles. I meant those who are a danger to us. The Muslims, the Arabs, the Radical Christians(such as the Klan)

The whole forum?? there is only one in this trade that made the statement against you.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Nolandforshalom on January 09, 2008, 11:19:19 PM
Oh my bad...thanks to those that agree with things i said  :)
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 09, 2008, 11:31:00 PM
Oh my bad...thanks to those that agree with things i said  :)
:::D its ok  ;)
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Boeregeneraal on January 10, 2008, 03:43:00 AM
I find it very hard to believe that simply because I did not word my point correctly the entire forum jumps on me. I did not mean all gentiles. I meant those who are a danger to us. The Muslims, the Arabs, the Radical Christians(such as the Klan)

The whole forum?? there is only one in this trade that made the statement against you.
Make that TWO. Me and Italian Zionist. I was outraged by his posts regarding this matter.

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I did not mean all gentiles. I meant those who are a danger to us. The Muslims, the Arabs, the Radical Christians(such as the Klan)
Ok then, but next time, please be a bit more precise.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Nolandforshalom on January 10, 2008, 06:22:13 AM
Regardless Jews must stick together against ALL of those who wish to harm us.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Boeregeneraal on January 10, 2008, 06:46:30 AM
Regardless Jews must stick together against ALL of those who wish to harm us.
Indeed! Strength in Unity
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 07:40:14 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.
No, race is a biological term, if there is a race, than it's the Semite race.
Acorrding to you, every tribe existed is a race of by it's own, since tribes are founded on family trees and bloodlines.
Everyone of any race can join the Jewish people.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 07:43:57 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.
No, race is a biological term, if there is a race, than it's the Semite race.
Acorrding to you, every tribe existed is a race of by it's own, since tribes are founded on family trees and bloodlines.
Everyone of any race can join the Jewish people.

Yes via religion and be converts. You telling me there are no races in this world then  :::D

No wonder thier is loss of belonging and who they really are  ;)
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 07:45:11 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.
No, race is a biological term, if there is a race, than it's the Semite race.
Acorrding to you, every tribe existed is a race of by it's own, since tribes are founded on family trees and bloodlines.
Everyone of any race can join the Jewish people.

Yes via religion and be converts. You telling mew there are no races in this world then  :::D
No, there are 3 races, the white race, the black race and the asian race.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 07:57:20 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.
No, race is a biological term, if there is a race, than it's the Semite race.
Acorrding to you, every tribe existed is a race of by it's own, since tribes are founded on family trees and bloodlines.
Everyone of any race can join the Jewish people.

Yes via religion and be converts. You telling mew there are no races in this world then  :::D
No, there are 3 races, the white race, the black race and the asian race.
that implies all ME and NAfr muzzies are white.

I don't call north afr. or arabs white.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 08:01:21 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.
No, race is a biological term, if there is a race, than it's the Semite race.
Acorrding to you, every tribe existed is a race of by it's own, since tribes are founded on family trees and bloodlines.
Everyone of any race can join the Jewish people.

Yes via religion and be converts. You telling mew there are no races in this world then  :::D
No, there are 3 races, the white race, the black race and the asian race.
that implies all ME and NAfr muzzies are white.

I don't call north afr. or arabs white.
Because they are...
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 08:05:53 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.
No, race is a biological term, if there is a race, than it's the Semite race.
Acorrding to you, every tribe existed is a race of by it's own, since tribes are founded on family trees and bloodlines.
Everyone of any race can join the Jewish people.

Yes via religion and be converts. You telling mew there are no races in this world then  :::D
No, there are 3 races, the white race, the black race and the asian race.

True thats my belief can't disagree with that, as in DNA. But I use race in a different term as well. Sucha as chinese are a sub race and belonging to the Aisan race. Jews are a sub race belonging to the white race.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 08:06:47 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.
No, race is a biological term, if there is a race, than it's the Semite race.
Acorrding to you, every tribe existed is a race of by it's own, since tribes are founded on family trees and bloodlines.
Everyone of any race can join the Jewish people.

Yes via religion and be converts. You telling mew there are no races in this world then  :::D
No, there are 3 races, the white race, the black race and the asian race.
that implies all ME and NAfr muzzies are white.

I don't call north afr. or arabs white.
Because they are...


some non-white race.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 08:10:11 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.
No, race is a biological term, if there is a race, than it's the Semite race.
Acorrding to you, every tribe existed is a race of by it's own, since tribes are founded on family trees and bloodlines.
Everyone of any race can join the Jewish people.

Yes via religion and be converts. You telling mew there are no races in this world then  :::D
No, there are 3 races, the white race, the black race and the asian race.
that implies all ME and NAfr muzzies are white.

I don't call north afr. or arabs white.
Because they are...


some non-white race.
neither are pakis, iranians.

I have no idea if some people consider the arabs/berbers as white, but i don't
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 08:28:01 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.
No, race is a biological term, if there is a race, than it's the Semite race.
Acorrding to you, every tribe existed is a race of by it's own, since tribes are founded on family trees and bloodlines.
Everyone of any race can join the Jewish people.

Yes via religion and be converts. You telling mew there are no races in this world then  :::D
No, there are 3 races, the white race, the black race and the asian race.
that implies all ME and NAfr muzzies are white.

I don't call north afr. or arabs white.
Because they are...


some non-white race.
neither are pakis, iranians.

I have no idea if some people consider the arabs/berbers as white, but i don't
Nonesense. The Pakistanians and Iranians are relitive people to the Europeans by DNA and origin.
The Arabs and berbers are Caucasians, the Jews are too. Here is a map that describes the races:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Huxleyraces.png)

Huxley's map of racial categories from On the Geographical Distribution of the Chief Modifications of Mankind (1870). Caucasians, marked in red, are identified as occupants of Europe, North Africa and the Middle East, through to Northern India.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 08:28:52 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then why can people convert to Judaism..how do you convert to a race?
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 08:31:24 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then why can people convert to Judaism..how do you convert to a race?

I said Doc its a race and religion they convert solely to the religion
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 08:33:11 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

He  didn't say "bad gentiles"  he just said gentiles.  If  he qualified it, I wouldn't have a problem with it...Excuse me but shouldn't Jews be against  "bad Jews" who push their own agendas (liberal, selfish etc)?



Gimme a break.

Chaim Ben Pesach and the people of this forum attack self-hating Jews with the most violent rhetoric imaginable. chaim has called openly for their deaths.

What more do you want?


this is true Judea, but noland doesn't seem to understand this...from what I read, Noland just brings up that the Jews should be against the gentiles, and not make allies with them..True G_d is the only true ally, but this stance of "us(jews)" against all of "them"(gentiles) is assanine.

Yes, Gd is our only true ally...We should only RELY on Gd.  But when a righteous gentile, another righteous nation, wants to contribute with no strings attached..and actually goes out of their way even if we refused it, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it..it in fact, is should be greatly appreciated...these people will be blessed! So I am against the absolutist point of view. Unless a gentile, or another nation wants to help Israel with no strings attached and are doing it out of love and out of being in Gd's good grace (meaning the reward comes from Gd for blessing Israel), we have no right to keep them from volunteering.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 08:37:59 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then why can people convert to Judaism..how do you convert to a race?

I said Doc its a race and religion they convert solely to the religion

But when they have Kids are they not Jews too?  Hey..what about Ashkanazi Jews and Sefardic Jews...We look different..one with blonde hair and blue eyes and another dark like an Arab.  You mean to tell me that since i'm the dark one like an Arab that Im' not white?  that' i'm a different race?  Your logic is flawed.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 08:43:07 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 08:44:22 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 08:47:24 AM
Quote
Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then why can people convert to Judaism..how do you convert to a race?

I said Doc its a race and religion they convert solely to the religion

But when they have Kids are they not Jews too?  Hey..what about Ashkanazi Jews and Sefardic Jews...We look different..one with blonde hair and blue eyes and another dark like an Arab.  You mean to tell me that since i'm the dark one like an Arab that Im' not white?  that' i'm a different race?  Your logic is flawed.

What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed, and their children continued to marry and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 08:50:22 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Let's say that the acient Jews looked much more like Arabs than to blond hair Europeans.
Iranians are Persians (50% are), so Persian Jews look a bit like the Persians, so..?

BTW, the Queern of Sheba wes Arab.

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What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.

All Mankind started from Adam and Eve. Jews are not a race! If they were a race, all Jews were looking the "same" in parameters of "Ears", "Noses", "Skin colour" etc', but they aren't.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 08:55:30 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Let's say that the acient Jews looked much more like Arabs than to blond hair Europeans.
Iranians are Persians (50% are), so Persian Jews look a bit like the Persians, so..?

BTW, the Queern of Sheba wes Arab.

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What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.

All Mankind started from Adam and Eve. Jews are not a race! If they were a race, all Jews were looking the "same" in parameters of "Ears", "Noses", "Skin colour" etc', but they aren't.

my arguemetn isn't with you, Dexter..it's with Skippy.  She is saying that Jews are a race..you and I are both saying that it isn't. Some peole here are also saying that arabs are not caucasion...and implying something else...
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 08:56:04 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Let's say that the acient Jews looked much more like Arabs than to blond hair Europeans.
Iranians are Persians (50% are), so Persian Jews look a bit like the Persians, so..?

BTW, the Queern of Sheba wes Arab.

Quote
What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.

All Mankind started from Adam and Eve. Jews are not a race! If they were a race, all Jews were looking the "same" in parameters of "Ears", "Noses", "Skin colour" etc', but they aren't.

Well yes they most people can tell a jew by their look, funny that  ::) At least some lines have remain without mixing to nothing.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 08:58:17 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Let's say that the acient Jews looked much more like Arabs than to blond hair Europeans.
Iranians are Persians (50% are), so Persian Jews look a bit like the Persians, so..?

BTW, the Queern of Sheba wes Arab.

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What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.

All Mankind started from Adam and Eve. Jews are not a race! If they were a race, all Jews were looking the "same" in parameters of "Ears", "Noses", "Skin colour" etc', but they aren't.

Well yes they most people can tell a jew by their look, funny that  ::) At least some lines have remain without mixing to nothing.

Are Arabs a race? Nordic Europeans ? Berbers?
All the rest is mixed in between?
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 09:01:12 AM
Skippy:
Really ? would they think Sephardic Jews are part of the "Ashkenazi Race" ? Of course not. Ashkenazis aren't the only Jews in the world and what you say prooves the Jews are a diffrent ethnoreligiouse group but not a diffrent race  :P
The only Jews that were probably never mixed, or very rarly mixed are the Lybian Jews, so they probably have the most "original" Jewish look.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Husar on January 10, 2008, 09:05:54 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then Muslims are also a race. They go by patrilineal descent.

ANYBODY can become/be considered a muSSlim.

Jews are Jews because of their JEWISH Mothers.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:08:34 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Let's say that the acient Jews looked much more like Arabs than to blond hair Europeans.
Iranians are Persians (50% are), so Persian Jews look a bit like the Persians, so..?

BTW, the Queern of Sheba wes Arab.

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What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.

All Mankind started from Adam and Eve. Jews are not a race! If they were a race, all Jews were looking the "same" in parameters of "Ears", "Noses", "Skin colour" etc', but they aren't.

Well yes they most people can tell a jew by their look, funny that  ::) At least some lines have remain without mixing to nothing.

Are Arabs a race? Nordic Europeans ? Berbers?
All the rest is mixed in between?

depends if you want go down the theory of religion or DNA. Under the thought of the Seven daughters of Eve then they can be seen as sub races from the main off shot. so yes. A strand of common linking DNA, that can be traced back to the primary source is considered a race.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 09:11:24 AM
Arabs are not a race but a Ethnic-group, the Berbers are not a race too. Anyone that claim they are is talking nonesense. Modern science, in contrast, identifies a population's common physical descent through genetic research, and analysis of the Semitic-speaking peoples suggests that they have some common ancestry. Though no significant common mitochondrial results have been yielded, Y-chromosomal links between Semitic-speaking Near-Eastern peoples like Arabs, Assyrians and Jews have proved fruitful, despite differences contributed from other groups (see Y-chromosomal Aaron). Although population genetics is still a young science, it seems to indicate that a significant proportion of these peoples' ancestry comes from a common Near Eastern population to which (despite the differences with the Biblical genealogy) the term "Semitic" has been applied. However, this correlation should rather be attributed to said common Near Eastern origin, as for example Semitic-speaking Near Easterners from the Fertile Crescent are generally more closely related to non-Semitic speaking Near Easterners, such as Iranians, Anatolians, and Caucasians, than to other Semitic-speakers, such as Gulf Arabs, Ethiopian Semites, and North African Arabs. [Wikipedia]
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:15:39 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then why can people convert to Judaism..how do you convert to a race?

I said Doc its a race and religion they convert solely to the religion

But when they have Kids are they not Jews too?  Hey..what about Ashkanazi Jews and Sefardic Jews...We look different..one with blonde hair and blue eyes and another dark like an Arab.  You mean to tell me that since i'm the dark one like an Arab that Im' not white?  that' i'm a different race?  Your logic is flawed.

What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed, and their children continued to marry and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.


that's like 6000 years ago...however..in teh last 2000 years when jews were in Diaspora, they mixed a whole lot of DNA..a WHOLE LOT!!!  And you know what?  Jew are mostly now a mixed race...yes a Mixed colorful "multi-cultural looking" race...we are part black, part white, part asian, part middle eastern, part this and part that...In fact, it is a good thing we are because there is a less likelyhood of getting wonderful genetic disease.  And you kown what the best part is?  Most of us stuck to our traditions and laws for those 2000 years...so we have a mixed race of people who practice Judaism...

So no, jews are not a race and it's not a matter of opinion if you think they are..your opinion is wrong and flawed.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:17:23 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Let's say that the acient Jews looked much more like Arabs than to blond hair Europeans.
Iranians are Persians (50% are), so Persian Jews look a bit like the Persians, so..?

BTW, the Queern of Sheba wes Arab.

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What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.

All Mankind started from Adam and Eve. Jews are not a race! If they were a race, all Jews were looking the "same" in parameters of "Ears", "Noses", "Skin colour" etc', but they aren't.

Well yes they most people can tell a jew by their look, funny that  ::) At least some lines have remain without mixing to nothing.

Are Arabs a race? Nordic Europeans ? Berbers?
All the rest is mixed in between?

depends if you want go down the theory of religion or DNA. Under the thought of the Seven daughters of Eve then they can be seen as sub races from the main off shot. so yes. A strand of common linking DNA, that can be traced back to the primary source is considered a race.

Gd killed off everyone during the floods of Noah..so your point is moot.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:17:32 AM
Skippy:
Really ? would they think Sefardic Jews are part of the "Ashkenazi Race" ? Of course not. Ashkenazis aren't the only Jews in the world and what you say prooves the Jews are a diffrent ethnoreligiouse group but not a diffrent race  :P
The only Jews that were probably never mixed, or very rarly mixed are the Lybian Jews, so they probably have the most "original" Jewish look.


See the thing is there is study are study that proves Jews are not a Race and there are studys after studys that prove it is.

Adam and Eve were not the creators of man kind, while they were in the garden of Eden there were gentiles doing their thing.

Of course Adam and Eve were the start of the Jewish race, you DNA test all Blood Jews have they
all have a common DNA strand. Of course over thousands of years they change with introduced genetic codes, but the basic strand remains the same. There fore a common ancestor, and creation of a race.

 
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:19:29 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Let's say that the acient Jews looked much more like Arabs than to blond hair Europeans.
Iranians are Persians (50% are), so Persian Jews look a bit like the Persians, so..?

BTW, the Queern of Sheba wes Arab.

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What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.

All Mankind started from Adam and Eve. Jews are not a race! If they were a race, all Jews were looking the "same" in parameters of "Ears", "Noses", "Skin colour" etc', but they aren't.

Well yes they most people can tell a jew by their look, funny that  ::) At least some lines have remain without mixing to nothing.

Are Arabs a race? Nordic Europeans ? Berbers?
All the rest is mixed in between?

depends if you want go down the theory of religion or DNA. Under the thought of the Seven daughters of Eve then they can be seen as sub races from the main off shot. so yes. A strand of common linking DNA, that can be traced back to the primary source is considered a race.

Gd killed off everyone during the floods of Noah..so your point is moot.

Haha if that was the case the world would be all jewish
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:20:46 AM
Skippy:
Really ? would they think Sefardic Jews are part of the "Ashkenazi Race" ? Of course not. Ashkenazis aren't the only Jews in the world and what you say prooves the Jews are a diffrent ethnoreligiouse group but not a diffrent race  :P
The only Jews that were probably never mixed, or very rarly mixed are the Lybian Jews, so they probably have the most "original" Jewish look.


See the thing is there is study are study that proves Jews are not a Race and there are studys after studys that prove it is.

Adam and Eve were not the creators of man kind, while they were in the garden of Eden there were gentiles doing their thing.

Of course Adam and Eve were the start of the Jewish race, you DNA test all Blood Jews have they
all have a common DNA strand. Of course over thousands of years they change with introduced genetic codes, but the basic strand remains the same. There fore a common ancestor, and creation of a race.

 


Um the basic strand of homo sapians are the same...
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:21:25 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Let's say that the acient Jews looked much more like Arabs than to blond hair Europeans.
Iranians are Persians (50% are), so Persian Jews look a bit like the Persians, so..?

BTW, the Queern of Sheba wes Arab.

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What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.

All Mankind started from Adam and Eve. Jews are not a race! If they were a race, all Jews were looking the "same" in parameters of "Ears", "Noses", "Skin colour" etc', but they aren't.

Well yes they most people can tell a jew by their look, funny that  ::) At least some lines have remain without mixing to nothing.

Are Arabs a race? Nordic Europeans ? Berbers?
All the rest is mixed in between?

depends if you want go down the theory of religion or DNA. Under the thought of the Seven daughters of Eve then they can be seen as sub races from the main off shot. so yes. A strand of common linking DNA, that can be traced back to the primary source is considered a race.

Gd killed off everyone during the floods of Noah..so your point is moot.

Haha if that was the case the world would be all jewish

Ummm, Noah wasn't a Jew.  He was Noah.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:21:34 AM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then why can people convert to Judaism..how do you convert to a race?

I said Doc its a race and religion they convert solely to the religion

But when they have Kids are they not Jews too?  Hey..what about Ashkanazi Jews and Sefardic Jews...We look different..one with blonde hair and blue eyes and another dark like an Arab.  You mean to tell me that since i'm the dark one like an Arab that Im' not white?  that' i'm a different race?  Your logic is flawed.

What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed, and their children continued to marry and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.


that's like 6000 years ago...however..in teh last 2000 years when jews were in Diaspora, they mixed a whole lot of DNA..a WHOLE LOT!!! 
Yes but core strands don't ever change, thats first thing you learn in genetics.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:22:38 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Let's say that the acient Jews looked much more like Arabs than to blond hair Europeans.
Iranians are Persians (50% are), so Persian Jews look a bit like the Persians, so..?

BTW, the Queern of Sheba wes Arab.

Quote
What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.

All Mankind started from Adam and Eve. Jews are not a race! If they were a race, all Jews were looking the "same" in parameters of "Ears", "Noses", "Skin colour" etc', but they aren't.

Well yes they most people can tell a jew by their look, funny that  ::) At least some lines have remain without mixing to nothing.

Are Arabs a race? Nordic Europeans ? Berbers?
All the rest is mixed in between?

depends if you want go down the theory of religion or DNA. Under the thought of the Seven daughters of Eve then they can be seen as sub races from the main off shot. so yes. A strand of common linking DNA, that can be traced back to the primary source is considered a race.

Gd killed off everyone during the floods of Noah..so your point is moot.

Haha if that was the case the world would be all jewish

Ummm, Noah wasn't a Jew.  He was Noah.

Yes but you said the whole human race come from Adam and Eve who were jewish.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:23:46 AM
Quote
Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then why can people convert to Judaism..how do you convert to a race?

I said Doc its a race and religion they convert solely to the religion

But when they have Kids are they not Jews too?  Hey..what about Ashkanazi Jews and Sefardic Jews...We look different..one with blonde hair and blue eyes and another dark like an Arab.  You mean to tell me that since i'm the dark one like an Arab that Im' not white?  that' i'm a different race?  Your logic is flawed.

What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed, and their children continued to marry and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.


that's like 6000 years ago...however..in teh last 2000 years when jews were in Diaspora, they mixed a whole lot of DNA..a WHOLE LOT!!! 
Yes but core strands don't ever change, thats first thing you learn in genetics.


Ummm...when someone mixes races, you get a change in genetic code by having a combination of mom and pop...
if you're looking at DNA from a light microscope, human DNA looks all alike...but when you do genetic testing and compaire original DNA from an early Jew..you have some similarties and some differences...

Core strands in homo sapians look alike to each other from most races that interact with each other.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:24:18 AM
Sephardics don't look like Arabs, most aren't.

that really wasn't my point...but there is a resemblance with some Arabs..

or what about Persians..some Persian Jews resemble the Iranians..even the Muslim ones...
Let's say that the acient Jews looked much more like Arabs than to blond hair Europeans.
Iranians are Persians (50% are), so Persian Jews look a bit like the Persians, so..?

BTW, the Queern of Sheba wes Arab.

Quote
What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.

All Mankind started from Adam and Eve. Jews are not a race! If they were a race, all Jews were looking the "same" in parameters of "Ears", "Noses", "Skin colour" etc', but they aren't.

Well yes they most people can tell a jew by their look, funny that  ::) At least some lines have remain without mixing to nothing.

Are Arabs a race? Nordic Europeans ? Berbers?
All the rest is mixed in between?

depends if you want go down the theory of religion or DNA. Under the thought of the Seven daughters of Eve then they can be seen as sub races from the main off shot. so yes. A strand of common linking DNA, that can be traced back to the primary source is considered a race.

Gd killed off everyone during the floods of Noah..so your point is moot.

Haha if that was the case the world would be all jewish

Ummm, Noah wasn't a Jew.  He was Noah.

Yes but you said the whole human race come from Adam and Eve who were jewish.

I never said that...
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:25:02 AM
Skippy:
Really ? would they think Sefardic Jews are part of the "Ashkenazi Race" ? Of course not. Ashkenazis aren't the only Jews in the world and what you say prooves the Jews are a diffrent ethnoreligiouse group but not a diffrent race  :P
The only Jews that were probably never mixed, or very rarly mixed are the Lybian Jews, so they probably have the most "original" Jewish look.


See the thing is there is study are study that proves Jews are not a Race and there are studys after studys that prove it is.

Adam and Eve were not the creators of man kind, while they were in the garden of Eden there were gentiles doing their thing.

Of course Adam and Eve were the start of the Jewish race, you DNA test all Blood Jews have they
all have a common DNA strand. Of course over thousands of years they change with introduced genetic codes, but the basic strand remains the same. There fore a common ancestor, and creation of a race.

 


Um the basic strand of homo sapians are the same...

First 12 dna codes yes, then it goes 3, then 7 and so on, and from that increase in codes develops races.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 09:27:52 AM
You are wrong:
A. Adam and Eve weren't Jewish, they were the first Humans God created, so the are the Head of all Mankind.
B. Jews are not a race, and the studies that prooves there are (and there aren't) are probably antisimetic. If you can't just look around you and realizethat Dark skin Jews and Light skin Jews can't be one race (they are part of one race, but it isn't the Jewish one) then you need to open them a bit more.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:28:12 AM
Quote
Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then why can people convert to Judaism..how do you convert to a race?

I said Doc its a race and religion they convert solely to the religion

But when they have Kids are they not Jews too?  Hey..what about Ashkanazi Jews and Sefardic Jews...We look different..one with blonde hair and blue eyes and another dark like an Arab.  You mean to tell me that since i'm the dark one like an Arab that Im' not white?  that' i'm a different race?  Your logic is flawed.

What that all Jews started from Adam and Eve, and down the line they married and breed, and their children continued to marry and breed  creating differnet lines but still all of the same source. I think very logic without faults, because there was a lot of begetting back then.


that's like 6000 years ago...however..in teh last 2000 years when jews were in Diaspora, they mixed a whole lot of DNA..a WHOLE LOT!!! 
Yes but core strands don't ever change, thats first thing you learn in genetics.


Ummm...when someone mixes races, you get a change in genetic code by having a combination of mom and pop...
if you're looking at DNA from a light microscope, human DNA looks all alike...but when you do genetic testing and compaire original DNA from an early Jew..you have some similarties and some differences...

Core strands in homo sapians look alike to each other from most races that interact with each other.

Thats simple DNA Profiling I am talking advanced, where they are cracking codes to dieases, and research levels.

It amazing the length of the human geno. Thats why its not fully maped.
They managed a dog and even a cats DNA coding is very complex.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:30:23 AM
You are wrong:
A. Adam and Eve weren't Jewish, they were the first Humans G-d created, so the are the Head of all Mankind.
B. Jews are not a race, and the studies that prooves there are (and there aren't) are probably antisimetic. If you can't just look around you and realizethat Dark skin Jews and Light skin Jews can't be one race (they are part of one race, but it isn't the Jewish one) then you need to open them a bit more.

There are dark and light skined Asians too all belonging to the same race.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:30:27 AM
Skippy:
Really ? would they think Sefardic Jews are part of the "Ashkenazi Race" ? Of course not. Ashkenazis aren't the only Jews in the world and what you say prooves the Jews are a diffrent ethnoreligiouse group but not a diffrent race  :P
The only Jews that were probably never mixed, or very rarly mixed are the Lybian Jews, so they probably have the most "original" Jewish look.


See the thing is there is study are study that proves Jews are not a Race and there are studys after studys that prove it is.

Adam and Eve were not the creators of man kind, while they were in the garden of Eden there were gentiles doing their thing.

Of course Adam and Eve were the start of the Jewish race, you DNA test all Blood Jews have they
all have a common DNA strand. Of course over thousands of years they change with introduced genetic codes, but the basic strand remains the same. There fore a common ancestor, and creation of a race.

 


Um the basic strand of homo sapians are the same...

First 12 dna codes yes, then it goes 3, then 7 and so on, and from that increase in codes develops races.

Ok so your point is basically that anyone born to a Jewish mother is racially a Jew...and that even if the mother were a dark African who converted and married a converted dark African and they had kids, they would not racially be a Jew...baed on the original 12 DNA codes that their ancestors 6000 years ago might have not be Jews racially...

Ok, let's just say you are right about all that...What fcuking difference does it make?!

If the Jewish race started from Abraham and Sarah, how is someone doing a genetic test from Abraham's or Sara's or Jacob's or Issac's or whomever's body to get this accurate reading?  no, it's flawed..your arguement proves nothing.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 09:32:11 AM
You are wrong:
A. Adam and Eve weren't Jewish, they were the first Humans G-d created, so the are the Head of all Mankind.
B. Jews are not a race, and the studies that prooves there are (and there aren't) are probably antisimetic. If you can't just look around you and realizethat Dark skin Jews and Light skin Jews can't be one race (they are part of one race, but it isn't the Jewish one) then you need to open them a bit more.

There are dark and light skined Asians too all belonging to the same race.

Asians are a race, Jews aren't, if there was a Jewish race, all Arabs were also part of it.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:33:06 AM
You are wrong:
A. Adam and Eve weren't Jewish, they were the first Humans G-d created, so the are the Head of all Mankind.
B. Jews are not a race, and the studies that prooves there are (and there aren't) are probably antisimetic. If you can't just look around you and realizethat Dark skin Jews and Light skin Jews can't be one race (they are part of one race, but it isn't the Jewish one) then you need to open them a bit more.

There are dark and light skined Asians too all belonging to the same race.



There are hairy tan Jews and light red head Irish looking Jews...and even in iran...red headed jews wtih blue eyes and hairy monkey looking Persians...

The point is...who cares?  race shoudl only be good for historical purposes and for choosing your mate.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 09:34:37 AM
I just care about the fact, that if we don't stop the muslim-invasion, the communism, multi-culturalism,
then the certain sub-species/races that we all know now, are going to disappear.
we'll be extinct.

I mean must Scandinavia become a racial interbreeding mix of 20% black 60 % arab 10 % vietnamese  and 10 % Scandinavian?

One more thing about race : how comes Jews have the highest IQ's?
only the way of life?

then non-Jews that convert to Judaism and breed without Jewish parents,
should be equally smart after a few generations.


Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:35:21 AM
Skippy:
Really ? would they think Sefardic Jews are part of the "Ashkenazi Race" ? Of course not. Ashkenazis aren't the only Jews in the world and what you say prooves the Jews are a diffrent ethnoreligiouse group but not a diffrent race  :P
The only Jews that were probably never mixed, or very rarly mixed are the Lybian Jews, so they probably have the most "original" Jewish look.


See the thing is there is study are study that proves Jews are not a Race and there are studys after studys that prove it is.

Adam and Eve were not the creators of man kind, while they were in the garden of Eden there were gentiles doing their thing.

Of course Adam and Eve were the start of the Jewish race, you DNA test all Blood Jews have they
all have a common DNA strand. Of course over thousands of years they change with introduced genetic codes, but the basic strand remains the same. There fore a common ancestor, and creation of a race.

 


Um the basic strand of homo sapians are the same...

First 12 dna codes yes, then it goes 3, then 7 and so on, and from that increase in codes develops races.

Ok so your point is basically that anyone born to a Jewish mother is racially a Jew...and that even if the mother were a dark African who converted and married a converted dark African and they had kids, they would not racially be a Jew...baed on the original 12 DNA codes that their ancestors 6000 years ago might have not be Jews racially...

Ok, let's just say you are right about all that...What fcuking difference does it make?!



Oh if you can debate without that lanugage I can't see the point.

ANd once again I said its a race and religion. Yes a black person can convert have jewish kids, but the are kids from a convert, quite different from a old blood line.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:36:27 AM
You are wrong:
A. Adam and Eve weren't Jewish, they were the first Humans G-d created, so the are the Head of all Mankind.
B. Jews are not a race, and the studies that prooves there are (and there aren't) are probably antisimetic. If you can't just look around you and realizethat Dark skin Jews and Light skin Jews can't be one race (they are part of one race, but it isn't the Jewish one) then you need to open them a bit more.

There are dark and light skined Asians too all belonging to the same race.

Asians are a race, Jews aren't, if there was a Jewish race, all Arabs were also part of it.

As a sub race yes.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:37:17 AM
Skippy:
Really ? would they think Sefardic Jews are part of the "Ashkenazi Race" ? Of course not. Ashkenazis aren't the only Jews in the world and what you say prooves the Jews are a diffrent ethnoreligiouse group but not a diffrent race  :P
The only Jews that were probably never mixed, or very rarly mixed are the Lybian Jews, so they probably have the most "original" Jewish look.


See the thing is there is study are study that proves Jews are not a Race and there are studys after studys that prove it is.

Adam and Eve were not the creators of man kind, while they were in the garden of Eden there were gentiles doing their thing.

Of course Adam and Eve were the start of the Jewish race, you DNA test all Blood Jews have they
all have a common DNA strand. Of course over thousands of years they change with introduced genetic codes, but the basic strand remains the same. There fore a common ancestor, and creation of a race.

 


Um the basic strand of homo sapians are the same...

First 12 dna codes yes, then it goes 3, then 7 and so on, and from that increase in codes develops races.

Ok so your point is basically that anyone born to a Jewish mother is racially a Jew...and that even if the mother were a dark African who converted and married a converted dark African and they had kids, they would not racially be a Jew...baed on the original 12 DNA codes that their ancestors 6000 years ago might have not be Jews racially...

Ok, let's just say you are right about all that...What fcuking difference does it make?!



Oh if you can debate without that lanugage I can't see the point.

ANd once again I said its a race and religion. Yes a black person can convert have jewish kids, but the are kids from a convert, quite different from a old blood line.

My point is, does this make a fcuking difference?!  Who cares!?
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:38:39 AM
Skippy:
Really ? would they think Sefardic Jews are part of the "Ashkenazi Race" ? Of course not. Ashkenazis aren't the only Jews in the world and what you say prooves the Jews are a diffrent ethnoreligiouse group but not a diffrent race  :P
The only Jews that were probably never mixed, or very rarly mixed are the Lybian Jews, so they probably have the most "original" Jewish look.


See the thing is there is study are study that proves Jews are not a Race and there are studys after studys that prove it is.

Adam and Eve were not the creators of man kind, while they were in the garden of Eden there were gentiles doing their thing.

Of course Adam and Eve were the start of the Jewish race, you DNA test all Blood Jews have they
all have a common DNA strand. Of course over thousands of years they change with introduced genetic codes, but the basic strand remains the same. There fore a common ancestor, and creation of a race.

 


Um the basic strand of homo sapians are the same...

First 12 dna codes yes, then it goes 3, then 7 and so on, and from that increase in codes develops races.

Ok so your point is basically that anyone born to a Jewish mother is racially a Jew...and that even if the mother were a dark African who converted and married a converted dark African and they had kids, they would not racially be a Jew...baed on the original 12 DNA codes that their ancestors 6000 years ago might have not be Jews racially...

Ok, let's just say you are right about all that...What fcuking difference does it make?!



Oh if you can debate without that lanugage I can't see the point.

ANd once again I said its a race and religion. Yes a black person can convert have jewish kids, but the are kids from a convert, quite different from a old blood line.

My point is, does this make a fcuking difference?!  Who cares!?

You seem to care, and have a foul mouth on you are well  >:(

I strongly suggest you don't swear at me again, because i have  a few words you might not want to hear.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 09:39:47 AM
Skippy:
Really ? would they think Sefardic Jews are part of the "Ashkenazi Race" ? Of course not. Ashkenazis aren't the only Jews in the world and what you say prooves the Jews are a diffrent ethnoreligiouse group but not a diffrent race  :P
The only Jews that were probably never mixed, or very rarly mixed are the Lybian Jews, so they probably have the most "original" Jewish look.


See the thing is there is study are study that proves Jews are not a Race and there are studys after studys that prove it is.

Adam and Eve were not the creators of man kind, while they were in the garden of Eden there were gentiles doing their thing.

Of course Adam and Eve were the start of the Jewish race, you DNA test all Blood Jews have they
all have a common DNA strand. Of course over thousands of years they change with introduced genetic codes, but the basic strand remains the same. There fore a common ancestor, and creation of a race.

 


Um the basic strand of homo sapians are the same...

First 12 dna codes yes, then it goes 3, then 7 and so on, and from that increase in codes develops races.

Ok so your point is basically that anyone born to a Jewish mother is racially a Jew...and that even if the mother were a dark African who converted and married a converted dark African and they had kids, they would not racially be a Jew...baed on the original 12 DNA codes that their ancestors 6000 years ago might have not be Jews racially...

Ok, let's just say you are right about all that...What fcuking difference does it make?!



Oh if you can debate without that lanugage I can't see the point.

ANd once again I said its a race and religion. Yes a black person can convert have jewish kids, but the are kids from a convert, quite different from a old blood line.

My point is, does this make a fcuking difference?!  Who cares!?

I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 09:40:36 AM
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ANd once again I said its a race and religion. Yes a black person can convert have jewish kids, but the are kids from a convert, quite different from a old blood line.

No, it's a nation and a religion. Jews are not a race, end of story. If you have a proove we are, bring it on.

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One more thing about race : how comes Jews have the highest IQ's?
only the way of life?

Yes, as a proove for that there is Israel: In Israel the Jews have less IQ then Jews in the dispora, that prooves that if a Jew lives with gentiles he would like to proove himself more than regualer. Furthermore, it was prooved that Gamra teaching could develope your intellegence higher than normal.

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As a sub race yes.
No, Semites are, ***maybe**** a sub-race, Arabs are part of that race, Jews are too, Phoenicians, Asseryans and more are also part of that Sub-Race.

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I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.
Why ?
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:42:43 AM
You are wrong:
A. Adam and Eve weren't Jewish, they were the first Humans G-d created, so the are the Head of all Mankind.
B. Jews are not a race, and the studies that prooves there are (and there aren't) are probably antisimetic. If you can't just look around you and realizethat Dark skin Jews and Light skin Jews can't be one race (they are part of one race, but it isn't the Jewish one) then you need to open them a bit more.

There are dark and light skined Asians too all belonging to the same race.



There are hairy tan Jews and light red head Irish looking Jews...and even in iran...red headed jews wtih blue eyes and hairy monkey looking Persians...

The point is...who cares?  race shoudl only be good for historical purposes and for choosing your mate.

Knowing family lines and culture is very important
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:44:29 AM
Quote
ANd once again I said its a race and religion. Yes a black person can convert have jewish kids, but the are kids from a convert, quite different from a old blood line.

No, it's a nation and a religion. Jews are not a race, end of story. If you have a proove we are, bring it on.

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One more thing about race : how comes Jews have the highest IQ's?
only the way of life?

Yes, as a proove for that there is Israel: In Israel the Jews have less IQ then Jews in the dispora, that prooves that if a Jew lives with gentiles he would like to proove himself more than regualer. Furthermore, it was prooved that Gamra teaching could develope your intellegence higher than normal.

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As a sub race yes.
No, Semites are, ***maybe**** a sub-race, Arabs are part of that race, Jews are too, Phoenicians, Asseryans and more are also part of that Sub-Race.

Quote
I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.
Why ?

Dexter DNA doesn't lie.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:46:00 AM

I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.

Exactly, without it the culture and people of the world is doomed.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:47:05 AM
Skippy:
Really ? would they think Sefardic Jews are part of the "Ashkenazi Race" ? Of course not. Ashkenazis aren't the only Jews in the world and what you say prooves the Jews are a diffrent ethnoreligiouse group but not a diffrent race  :P
The only Jews that were probably never mixed, or very rarly mixed are the Lybian Jews, so they probably have the most "original" Jewish look.


See the thing is there is study are study that proves Jews are not a Race and there are studys after studys that prove it is.

Adam and Eve were not the creators of man kind, while they were in the garden of Eden there were gentiles doing their thing.

Of course Adam and Eve were the start of the Jewish race, you DNA test all Blood Jews have they
all have a common DNA strand. Of course over thousands of years they change with introduced genetic codes, but the basic strand remains the same. There fore a common ancestor, and creation of a race.

 


Um the basic strand of homo sapians are the same...

First 12 dna codes yes, then it goes 3, then 7 and so on, and from that increase in codes develops races.

Ok so your point is basically that anyone born to a Jewish mother is racially a Jew...and that even if the mother were a dark African who converted and married a converted dark African and they had kids, they would not racially be a Jew...baed on the original 12 DNA codes that their ancestors 6000 years ago might have not be Jews racially...

Ok, let's just say you are right about all that...What fcuking difference does it make?!



Oh if you can debate without that lanugage I can't see the point.

ANd once again I said its a race and religion. Yes a black person can convert have jewish kids, but the are kids from a convert, quite different from a old blood line.

My point is, does this make a fcuking difference?!  Who cares!?

I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.

You shoudl care about your country...not the race which live within it..but then again, I say that as an American.  So to other nations: to each their own.  As far as a jewish country..race should not make a f--ing difference. I have emphasize on the F-word because it really pisses me off when some people make a big deal about it in regards to jews and and the USA.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:48:39 AM
You are wrong:
A. Adam and Eve weren't Jewish, they were the first Humans G-d created, so the are the Head of all Mankind.
B. Jews are not a race, and the studies that prooves there are (and there aren't) are probably antisimetic. If you can't just look around you and realizethat Dark skin Jews and Light skin Jews can't be one race (they are part of one race, but it isn't the Jewish one) then you need to open them a bit more.

There are dark and light skined Asians too all belonging to the same race.



There are hairy tan Jews and light red head Irish looking Jews...and even in iran...red headed jews wtih blue eyes and hairy monkey looking Persians...

The point is...who cares?  race shoudl only be good for historical purposes and for choosing your mate.

Knowing family lines and culture is very important

SO your family lines and culture as ZILCH to do wtih race, sweety.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 09:50:00 AM
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Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:50:05 AM

I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.

Exactly, without it the culture and people of the world is doomed.

What does race have to do wtih culture..

Yes, nationality has something to do with culture..but not race necessarily.  Red headed persians are no different in culture than black haired hairy persians...but DNA..absolutely!
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:52:28 AM
You are wrong:
A. Adam and Eve weren't Jewish, they were the first Humans G-d created, so the are the Head of all Mankind.
B. Jews are not a race, and the studies that prooves there are (and there aren't) are probably antisimetic. If you can't just look around you and realizethat Dark skin Jews and Light skin Jews can't be one race (they are part of one race, but it isn't the Jewish one) then you need to open them a bit more.

There are dark and light skined Asians too all belonging to the same race.



There are hairy tan Jews and light red head Irish looking Jews...and even in iran...red headed jews wtih blue eyes and hairy monkey looking Persians...

The point is...who cares?  race shoudl only be good for historical purposes and for choosing your mate.

Knowing family lines and culture is very important

SO your family lines and culture as ZILCH to do wtih race, sweety.

It has everything to do with race, unlike most cross breeders, my family line is 100% white, and traceable for hundreds of years. Its called culture and race and honor. Nowadays that is very rare.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:53:24 AM
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Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.

correct and they are sub races of each other.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 09:54:39 AM
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I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.
Why ?

I want Europe's different subgroups to be intact. replacing the Native Europeans at the tempo we do now is going to led to the destruction of Europe.

Muslims; because of their religion, and they want to outbreed us.

blacks, we don't need them here. they are aliens that want to outbreed us. Should be forbidden to even come on holidays. they spread AIDS.

Our genetic heritage will be lost, and Europe will go back to the middle - ages.

All our cities will be destroyed, all art, all what 1000 years builded up, will be gone.


People , a nation, in Europe, is race/subgroup.

If I go to Holland, they know I'm from Belgium.
If an Englishman goes to Germany , the German knows this.
If a Swede goes to Spain, everybody knows this,

Mingling all these Europeans, is not potentially harmfull.
As long as the northern europeans stay blond, blue eyes
and the southern/middle europeans stay black/brown , with green/brown eyes it's ok.

If we mix the Swedes with blacks, that's a crime.

But mingling with muzzies and blacks that outbreed us , means we are facing racial extinction.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
You are wrong:
A. Adam and Eve weren't Jewish, they were the first Humans G-d created, so the are the Head of all Mankind.
B. Jews are not a race, and the studies that prooves there are (and there aren't) are probably antisimetic. If you can't just look around you and realizethat Dark skin Jews and Light skin Jews can't be one race (they are part of one race, but it isn't the Jewish one) then you need to open them a bit more.

There are dark and light skined Asians too all belonging to the same race.



There are hairy tan Jews and light red head Irish looking Jews...and even in iran...red headed jews wtih blue eyes and hairy monkey looking Persians...

The point is...who cares?  race shoudl only be good for historical purposes and for choosing your mate.

Knowing family lines and culture is very important

SO your family lines and culture as ZILCH to do wtih race, sweety.

It has everything to do with race, unlike most cross breeders, my family line is 100% white, and traceable for hundreds of years. Its called culture and race and honor. Nowadays that is very rare.

So you have honor for being genetically white? oye vay...that's so shallow.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 09:57:53 AM


So you have honor for being genetically white? oye vay...that's so shallow.

No its called being true. I find other races apart from my own very unattractive, shall i breed with a black man just to make you happy. And dishonour my family. NO I think not.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 09:59:31 AM
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Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.

correct and they are sub races of each other.
Arabs and Jews ? Maybe, you'll have to prove it, because I don't think Semites are a sub race, or any kind of a race. The Semites are only a group of people.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 10:00:15 AM


So you have honor for being genetically white? oye vay...that's so shallow.

No its called being true. I find other races apart from my own very unattractive, shall i breed with a black man just to make you happy. And dishonour my family. NO I think not.

I agree.

i almost dislike children from arabs.
i really like children from my own Flemish&West-european / Russian people.

I am sure all blacks feel the same..

Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 10:01:35 AM
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If we mix the Swedes with blacks, that's a crime.

But mingling with muzzies and blacks that outbreed us , means we are facing racial extinction
.
So you want "mixing" wouldn't be allowed ??
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 10:03:30 AM
Quote
Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.

correct and they are sub races of each other.
Arabs and Jews ? Maybe, you'll have to prove it, because I don't think Semites are a sub race, or any kind of a race. The Semites are only a group of people.

have you ever tried googling its 2 am for me. Cheers. Look up advanced genetic coding.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 10:03:37 AM
Quote
I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.
Why ?

I want Europe's different subgroups to be intact. replacing the Native Europeans at the tempo we do now is going to led to the destruction of Europe.

Muslims; because of their religion, and they want to outbreed us.

blacks, we don't need them here. they are aliens that want to outbreed us. Should be forbidden to even come on holidays. they spread AIDS.

Our genetic heritage will be lost, and Europe will go back to the middle - ages.

All our cities will be destroyed, all art, all what 1000 years builded up, will be gone.


People , a nation, in Europe, is race/subgroup.

If I go to Holland, they know I'm from Belgium.
If an Englishman goes to Germany , the German knows this.
If a Swede goes to Spain, everybody knows this,

Mingling all these Europeans, is not potentially harmfull.
As long as the northern europeans stay blond, blue eyes
and the southern/middle europeans stay black/brown , with green/brown eyes it's ok.

If we mix the Swedes with blacks, that's a crime.

But mingling with muzzies and blacks that outbreed us , means we are facing racial extinction.

I cannot argue with you on these points. I cannot say you are wrong in your opinion.  The only thing I will ask you to think about is not put the quality of WHO someone is based on their race..yes a culture you can do that..yes a nationality you can do that..but a race, be very careful of how you qualify WHO someone is.  yes, someone of a different race might be physically ugly to you...I have no problem with that.  But if you look at a decent smart human being who is a different color from you..with simply more melanin on their skin, for example, and automatically say, "Ugh, you are this, leave me alone. I want to ignore you.." it becomes entirely your loss and my gain.  Through that smart decent human being from a different RACE, i can improve my culture and make it much more superior to yours because by closing this different looking person off from you and shutting him/her out, you inferiorize your culture..you only end preserving your own, but NEVER improving it...and that's how nations disappear also...but Jews dont' disappear.  While the torah is ancient and the Talmud is old...it not only works for today, but it makes people think and be innovative...for some Jews, they are stuck in their old ways and never change...but a lot of them are so learned and so comfortable in their skin that they can look outward to the other nations of the world and learn somethign from them to become smarter scholars and Jews..We as Jews, being in Diaspora for 2000 years learned a lot of good things from other nations...even the ones who tried to exterminate us...and the bottom line is they're all gone and we're still here...

Xenophobism is very evil..phobias will destroy you and your nation faster than Muzzies and blacks outbreeding you.  Making things illegal for them will only make them stronger...you need a different strategy.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 10:06:24 AM


So you have honor for being genetically white? oye vay...that's so shallow.

No its called being true. I find other races apart from my own very unattractive, shall i breed with a black man just to make you happy. And dishonour my family. NO I think not.

that wsa my point orginally..Race shoudl only matter when finding your mate or for historical purposes. Race matters to you because of physical attraction...I find absolutely NOTHING wrong with that...if it is matter of the culture of your parents and honor, I have NO PROBLEM with that either.

But don't make it a shallow issue...don't just be with a white guy for simply being white..go for a quality white guy.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 10:06:34 AM
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If we mix the Swedes with blacks, that's a crime.

But mingling with muzzies and blacks that outbreed us , means we are facing racial extinction
.
So you want "mixing" wouldn't be allowed ??


blacks with Europeans?

I dislike this.

Should be kept very difficult for blacks to come here and breed.

Only a 0,002 % or so.

then we can integrate them properly.
we have no religion that protects us from marrying with people from other religions, such as in Israel.
that should be a good filter too.

And any sex without marriage should be punishable as well,
as it was two generations ago


Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 10:07:58 AM


So you have honor for being genetically white? oye vay...that's so shallow.

No its called being true. I find other races apart from my own very unattractive, shall i breed with a black man just to make you happy. And dishonour my family. NO I think not.

I agree.

i almost dislike children from arabs.
i really like children from my own Flemish&West-european / Russian people.

I am sure all blacks feel the same..



They do Blacks don't want to breed with whites, but do they it called swallow  :-\

No because only whites are racist, only whites can't have pride in themselves.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 10:11:15 AM


So you have honor for being genetically white? oye vay...that's so shallow.

No its called being true. I find other races apart from my own very unattractive, shall i breed with a black man just to make you happy. And dishonour my family. NO I think not.

that wsa my point orginally..Race shoudl only matter when finding your mate or for historical purposes. Race matters to you because of physical attraction...I find absolutely NOTHING wrong with that...if it is matter of the culture of your parents and honor, I have NO PROBLEM with that either.

But don't make it a shallow issue...don't just be with a white guy for simply being white..go for a quality white guy.

I find all 100% white men quailty because their familys have honour and chosen to stay with in their race.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 10:13:22 AM
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Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.

correct and they are sub races of each other.
Arabs and Jews ? Maybe, you'll have to prove it, because I don't think Semites are a sub race, or any kind of a race. The Semites are only a group of people.

have you ever tried googling its 2 am for me. Cheers. Look up advanced genetic coding.
There is nothing, look for yourself. I looked and it came to StørmFrønt and other sites that don't say the Semites are a Sub-Race.

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I find all 100% white men quailty because their familys have honour and chosen to stay with in their race.

 :D
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 10:17:04 AM


So you have honor for being genetically white? oye vay...that's so shallow.

No its called being true. I find other races apart from my own very unattractive, shall i breed with a black man just to make you happy. And dishonour my family. NO I think not.

that wsa my point orginally..Race shoudl only matter when finding your mate or for historical purposes. Race matters to you because of physical attraction...I find absolutely NOTHING wrong with that...if it is matter of the culture of your parents and honor, I have NO PROBLEM with that either.

But don't make it a shallow issue...don't just be with a white guy for simply being white..go for a quality white guy.

I find all 100% white men quailty because their familys have honour and chosen to stay with in their race.

If that's your choice, i'm no one to stop you...But i really disagree with this point of view.  I think whiteness says nothing about someone culture.  However, I feel the same way about you in regards to Jewishness...jewishness is a better quality than whiteness in my opinion becuase jewishness isn't shallow and from jewishness, Gd willing, I'll have smart wonderful children with good values to pass on to their children for generations to come..

But whiteness...you make me laugh..but...it's your life, your choice.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 10:17:26 AM
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Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.

correct and they are sub races of each other.
Arabs and Jews ? Maybe, you'll have to prove it, because I don't think Semites are a sub race, or any kind of a race. The Semites are only a group of people.

have you ever tried googling its 2 am for me. Cheers. Look up advanced genetic coding.
There is nothing, look for yourself. I looked and it came to StørmFrønt and other sites that don't say the Semites are a Sub-Race.

Quote
I find all 100% white men quailty because their familys have honour and chosen to stay with in their race.

 :D

 You need to look up medical site geez its basic. Not WN sites.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 10:19:26 AM
Quote
I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.
Why ?

I want Europe's different subgroups to be intact. replacing the Native Europeans at the tempo we do now is going to led to the destruction of Europe.

Muslims; because of their religion, and they want to outbreed us.

blacks, we don't need them here. they are aliens that want to outbreed us. Should be forbidden to even come on holidays. they spread AIDS.

Our genetic heritage will be lost, and Europe will go back to the middle - ages.

All our cities will be destroyed, all art, all what 1000 years builded up, will be gone.


People , a nation, in Europe, is race/subgroup.

If I go to Holland, they know I'm from Belgium.
If an Englishman goes to Germany , the German knows this.
If a Swede goes to Spain, everybody knows this,

Mingling all these Europeans, is not potentially harmfull.
As long as the northern europeans stay blond, blue eyes
and the southern/middle europeans stay black/brown , with green/brown eyes it's ok.

If we mix the Swedes with blacks, that's a crime.

But mingling with muzzies and blacks that outbreed us , means we are facing racial extinction.

I cannot argue with you on these points. I cannot say you are wrong in your opinion.  The only thing I will ask you to think about is not put the quality of WHO someone is based on their race..yes a culture you can do that..yes a nationality you can do that..but a race, be very careful of how you qualify WHO someone is.  yes, someone of a different race might be physically ugly to you...I have no problem with that.  But if you look at a decent smart human being who is a different color from you..with simply more melanin on their skin, for example, and automatically say, "Ugh, you are this, leave me alone. I want to ignore you.." it becomes entirely your loss and my gain.  Through that smart decent human being from a different RACE, i can improve my culture and make it much more superior to yours because by closing this different looking person off from you and shutting him/her out, you inferiorize your culture..you only end preserving your own, but NEVER improving it...and that's how nations disappear also...but Jews dont' disappear.  While the torah is ancient and the Talmud is old...it not only works for today, but it makes people think and be innovative...for some Jews, they are stuck in their old ways and never change...but a lot of them are so learned and so comfortable in their skin that they can look outward to the other nations of the world and learn somethign from them to become smarter scholars and Jews..We as Jews, being in Diaspora for 2000 years learned a lot of good things from other nations...even the ones who tried to exterminate us...and the bottom line is they're all gone and we're still here...

Xenophobism is very evil..phobias will destroy you and your nation faster than Muzzies and blacks outbreeding you.  Making things illegal for them will only make them stronger...you need a different strategy.
I fully respect your views too.

But i get sick if i walk on the street.
This is not Europe anymore.

This people are coming to take over our cities, and hunt us away.

That is colonisation.
The thing is , if you choose, in diaspora, to communicate with the smarter Gentiles, to accept them , as family, and their ideas, that is a total other plan, that indeed no other nation has done.

Let me ask this: would you choose an african Christian woman from the congo,  a white atheist woman from Brussels,  or a Thora-believing Jewish born Jewess?

I do think you'd prefer somebody of your own people over the other.

Don't forget, we Flemish are a mixed people also.

our roots are Gallic/Germanic/Frank, and some European immigrants from everywhere.

despite that, I think we should have the power to CHOOSE who immigrates here , so we can at least select intelligent people to breed/make culture with.

now were under socialist regimes that in less than a century let in 20% non-Europeans, that are living on benefit.

The Jews are in no way to compare with these black immigrants. Most of these blacks are less civilised like Celts 3000 years ago, and
have an IQ almost 2 times less than the average European.

Allowing them to out-breed us , is suicide.



Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 10:20:51 AM
Quote
Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.

correct and they are sub races of each other.
Arabs and Jews ? Maybe, you'll have to prove it, because I don't think Semites are a sub race, or any kind of a race. The Semites are only a group of people.

have you ever tried googling its 2 am for me. Cheers. Look up advanced genetic coding.
There is nothing, look for yourself. I looked and it came to StørmFrønt and other sites that don't say the Semites are a Sub-Race.

Quote
I find all 100% white men quailty because their familys have honour and chosen to stay with in their race.

 :D

 You need to look up medical site geez its basic. Not WN sites.
I googeld "Simetes Sub Race" and didn't found a thing. You are the one that claimed they are a Sub-Race and/or the Jews are a race, proove it.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 10:21:11 AM


So you have honor for being genetically white? oye vay...that's so shallow.

No its called being true. I find other races apart from my own very unattractive, shall i breed with a black man just to make you happy. And dishonour my family. NO I think not.

that wsa my point orginally..Race shoudl only matter when finding your mate or for historical purposes. Race matters to you because of physical attraction...I find absolutely NOTHING wrong with that...if it is matter of the culture of your parents and honor, I have NO PROBLEM with that either.

But don't make it a shallow issue...don't just be with a white guy for simply being white..go for a quality white guy.

I find all 100% white men quailty because their familys have honour and chosen to stay with in their race.

If that's your choice, i'm no one to stop you...But i really disagree with this point of view.  I think whiteness says nothing about someone culture.  However, I feel the same way about you in regards to Jewishness...jewishness is a better quality than whiteness in my opinion becuase jewishness isn't shallow and from jewishness, Gd willing, I'll have smart wonderful children with good values to pass on to their children for generations to come..

But whiteness...you make me laugh..but...it's your life, your choice.

Thats right it is my right to choose to stay within my race.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 10:22:07 AM
Quote
I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.
Why ?

I want Europe's different subgroups to be intact. replacing the Native Europeans at the tempo we do now is going to led to the destruction of Europe.

Muslims; because of their religion, and they want to outbreed us.

blacks, we don't need them here. they are aliens that want to outbreed us. Should be forbidden to even come on holidays. they spread AIDS.

Our genetic heritage will be lost, and Europe will go back to the middle - ages.

All our cities will be destroyed, all art, all what 1000 years builded up, will be gone.


People , a nation, in Europe, is race/subgroup.

If I go to Holland, they know I'm from Belgium.
If an Englishman goes to Germany , the German knows this.
If a Swede goes to Spain, everybody knows this,

Mingling all these Europeans, is not potentially harmfull.
As long as the northern europeans stay blond, blue eyes
and the southern/middle europeans stay black/brown , with green/brown eyes it's ok.

If we mix the Swedes with blacks, that's a crime.

But mingling with muzzies and blacks that outbreed us , means we are facing racial extinction.

I cannot argue with you on these points. I cannot say you are wrong in your opinion.  The only thing I will ask you to think about is not put the quality of WHO someone is based on their race..yes a culture you can do that..yes a nationality you can do that..but a race, be very careful of how you qualify WHO someone is.  yes, someone of a different race might be physically ugly to you...I have no problem with that.  But if you look at a decent smart human being who is a different color from you..with simply more melanin on their skin, for example, and automatically say, "Ugh, you are this, leave me alone. I want to ignore you.." it becomes entirely your loss and my gain.  Through that smart decent human being from a different RACE, i can improve my culture and make it much more superior to yours because by closing this different looking person off from you and shutting him/her out, you inferiorize your culture..you only end preserving your own, but NEVER improving it...and that's how nations disappear also...but Jews dont' disappear.  While the torah is ancient and the Talmud is old...it not only works for today, but it makes people think and be innovative...for some Jews, they are stuck in their old ways and never change...but a lot of them are so learned and so comfortable in their skin that they can look outward to the other nations of the world and learn somethign from them to become smarter scholars and Jews..We as Jews, being in Diaspora for 2000 years learned a lot of good things from other nations...even the ones who tried to exterminate us...and the bottom line is they're all gone and we're still here...

Xenophobism is very evil..phobias will destroy you and your nation faster than Muzzies and blacks outbreeding you.  Making things illegal for them will only make them stronger...you need a different strategy.

what do you advice?
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 10:23:07 AM
Quote
Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.

correct and they are sub races of each other.
Arabs and Jews ? Maybe, you'll have to prove it, because I don't think Semites are a sub race, or any kind of a race. The Semites are only a group of people.

have you ever tried googling its 2 am for me. Cheers. Look up advanced genetic coding.
There is nothing, look for yourself. I looked and it came to StørmFrønt and other sites that don't say the Semites are a Sub-Race.

Quote
I find all 100% white men quailty because their familys have honour and chosen to stay with in their race.

 :D

 You need to look up medical site geez its basic. Not WN sites.
I googeld "Simetes Sub Race" and didn't found a thing. You are the one that claimed they are a Sub-Race and/or the Jews are a race, proove it.

You did even look up genetic coding, most lazy. you don't want to do it because you know you will learn something.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 10:26:10 AM
Skippy, Dexter, what is your counter-strategy on the outbreeding strategy of muslims and blacks in Europe?
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 10:33:10 AM
Skippy, Dexter, what is your counter-strategy on the outbreeding strategy of muslims and blacks in Europe?

I believe there should not be breeding feast. If whites choose wisely and create good quality offspring with strong genes, the white race will not die out.

I believe culture values need to be saved, and once that happens then Muslisms and Blacks cant undermine,  a country and its people.

Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Mishmaat on January 10, 2008, 10:59:06 AM
Wow, Skippy you sound like a real white supremacist. Please refrain from applying your racial theories to defining who is a Jew because you are completely wrong.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 11:59:31 AM
Quote
I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.
Why ?

I want Europe's different subgroups to be intact. replacing the Native Europeans at the tempo we do now is going to led to the destruction of Europe.

Muslims; because of their religion, and they want to outbreed us.

blacks, we don't need them here. they are aliens that want to outbreed us. Should be forbidden to even come on holidays. they spread AIDS.

Our genetic heritage will be lost, and Europe will go back to the middle - ages.

All our cities will be destroyed, all art, all what 1000 years builded up, will be gone.


People , a nation, in Europe, is race/subgroup.

If I go to Holland, they know I'm from Belgium.
If an Englishman goes to Germany , the German knows this.
If a Swede goes to Spain, everybody knows this,

Mingling all these Europeans, is not potentially harmfull.
As long as the northern europeans stay blond, blue eyes
and the southern/middle europeans stay black/brown , with green/brown eyes it's ok.

If we mix the Swedes with blacks, that's a crime.

But mingling with muzzies and blacks that outbreed us , means we are facing racial extinction.

I cannot argue with you on these points. I cannot say you are wrong in your opinion.  The only thing I will ask you to think about is not put the quality of WHO someone is based on their race..yes a culture you can do that..yes a nationality you can do that..but a race, be very careful of how you qualify WHO someone is.  yes, someone of a different race might be physically ugly to you...I have no problem with that.  But if you look at a decent smart human being who is a different color from you..with simply more melanin on their skin, for example, and automatically say, "Ugh, you are this, leave me alone. I want to ignore you.." it becomes entirely your loss and my gain.  Through that smart decent human being from a different RACE, i can improve my culture and make it much more superior to yours because by closing this different looking person off from you and shutting him/her out, you inferiorize your culture..you only end preserving your own, but NEVER improving it...and that's how nations disappear also...but Jews dont' disappear.  While the torah is ancient and the Talmud is old...it not only works for today, but it makes people think and be innovative...for some Jews, they are stuck in their old ways and never change...but a lot of them are so learned and so comfortable in their skin that they can look outward to the other nations of the world and learn somethign from them to become smarter scholars and Jews..We as Jews, being in Diaspora for 2000 years learned a lot of good things from other nations...even the ones who tried to exterminate us...and the bottom line is they're all gone and we're still here...

Xenophobism is very evil..phobias will destroy you and your nation faster than Muzzies and blacks outbreeding you.  Making things illegal for them will only make them stronger...you need a different strategy.
I fully respect your views too.

But i get sick if i walk on the street.
This is not Europe anymore.

This people are coming to take over our cities, and hunt us away.

That is colonisation.
The thing is , if you choose, in diaspora, to communicate with the smarter Gentiles, to accept them , as family, and their ideas, that is a total other plan, that indeed no other nation has done.

Let me ask this: would you choose an african Christian woman from the congo,  a white atheist woman from Brussels,  or a Thora-believing Jewish born Jewess?

I do think you'd prefer somebody of your own people over the other.

Don't forget, we Flemish are a mixed people also.

our roots are Gallic/Germanic/Frank, and some European immigrants from everywhere.

despite that, I think we should have the power to CHOOSE who immigrates here , so we can at least select intelligent people to breed/make culture with.

now were under socialist regimes that in less than a century let in 20% non-Europeans, that are living on benefit.

The Jews are in no way to compare with these black immigrants. Most of these blacks are less civilised like Celts 3000 years ago, and
have an IQ almost 2 times less than the average European.

Allowing them to out-breed us , is suicide.






Oh I agree wtih you when you look at it this way. First, of course I would rather marry a Jew...and even prefer a Persian Jew..but it doesn't have to be.  And why? because we have somethign in common culturally and it's easier to understand each other most of the time.

I believe the problem with immigration these days is indiscriminate immigration.  In other words, anyone and everyone is allowed in.  For the USA, it's not race with which we shoudl choose people, but quality irregardless of where they come from. In Europe, it might be a different story, so I won't go there.

And in Israel, it's not based on race, but based on whether someone is Jewish or has some sort of jewish ancestry..so there you go.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 10, 2008, 12:02:37 PM
Quote
Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.

correct and they are sub races of each other.
Arabs and Jews ? Maybe, you'll have to prove it, because I don't think Semites are a sub race, or any kind of a race. The Semites are only a group of people.

have you ever tried googling its 2 am for me. Cheers. Look up advanced genetic coding.
There is nothing, look for yourself. I looked and it came to StørmFrønt and other sites that don't say the Semites are a Sub-Race.

Quote
I find all 100% white men quailty because their familys have honour and chosen to stay with in their race.

 :D

 You need to look up medical site geez its basic. Not WN sites.
I googeld "Simetes Sub Race" and didn't found a thing. You are the one that claimed they are a Sub-Race and/or the Jews are a race, proove it.

You did even look up genetic coding, most lazy. you don't want to do it because you know you will learn something.
;D
I did, nothing apears. You are the lazy one that claim something but is to lazy to provide a source.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 12:04:51 PM
Quote
I as a non-Jew care about my race, and its future all the time.
Why ?

I want Europe's different subgroups to be intact. replacing the Native Europeans at the tempo we do now is going to led to the destruction of Europe.

Muslims; because of their religion, and they want to outbreed us.

blacks, we don't need them here. they are aliens that want to outbreed us. Should be forbidden to even come on holidays. they spread AIDS.

Our genetic heritage will be lost, and Europe will go back to the middle - ages.

All our cities will be destroyed, all art, all what 1000 years builded up, will be gone.


People , a nation, in Europe, is race/subgroup.

If I go to Holland, they know I'm from Belgium.
If an Englishman goes to Germany , the German knows this.
If a Swede goes to Spain, everybody knows this,

Mingling all these Europeans, is not potentially harmfull.
As long as the northern europeans stay blond, blue eyes
and the southern/middle europeans stay black/brown , with green/brown eyes it's ok.

If we mix the Swedes with blacks, that's a crime.

But mingling with muzzies and blacks that outbreed us , means we are facing racial extinction.

I cannot argue with you on these points. I cannot say you are wrong in your opinion.  The only thing I will ask you to think about is not put the quality of WHO someone is based on their race..yes a culture you can do that..yes a nationality you can do that..but a race, be very careful of how you qualify WHO someone is.  yes, someone of a different race might be physically ugly to you...I have no problem with that.  But if you look at a decent smart human being who is a different color from you..with simply more melanin on their skin, for example, and automatically say, "Ugh, you are this, leave me alone. I want to ignore you.." it becomes entirely your loss and my gain.  Through that smart decent human being from a different RACE, i can improve my culture and make it much more superior to yours because by closing this different looking person off from you and shutting him/her out, you inferiorize your culture..you only end preserving your own, but NEVER improving it...and that's how nations disappear also...but Jews dont' disappear.  While the torah is ancient and the Talmud is old...it not only works for today, but it makes people think and be innovative...for some Jews, they are stuck in their old ways and never change...but a lot of them are so learned and so comfortable in their skin that they can look outward to the other nations of the world and learn somethign from them to become smarter scholars and Jews..We as Jews, being in Diaspora for 2000 years learned a lot of good things from other nations...even the ones who tried to exterminate us...and the bottom line is they're all gone and we're still here...

Xenophobism is very evil..phobias will destroy you and your nation faster than Muzzies and blacks outbreeding you.  Making things illegal for them will only make them stronger...you need a different strategy.

what do you advice?

There is nothing wrong with national pride. Anyone who immigrates to your country shoudl learn your language and practice your culture at least in public..In private, whatever religion or culture or language they might differ, they have a right to be.  Every immigrant to a country must follow the laws of that country unconditionally and be perfect citizens. In return, those who are citizens of the country should accept them.  

It's a matter of respect. I am angry with you about Europe. THOSE beasts who are out breeding in your nation who dont' follow the law, have no respect.  Also, just as bad, is when citizens of a country terrorize decent hard working immigrant who actually follow the law of that land.

Here, the similar things can be said about many illegal aliens (but not necessarily all) and Muzzies...they have no tolerance or respect for people who are citizens here.  there was a time in America's past where certain people had no respect for decent hardworking immigrant who followed the law.  So both are bad.

Now, one might argue..what about the Indigenous native americans and when the Europeans settled in North and South America?  I think Chaim answered this question a few months back and he even said that issue was that many Europeans at that time wanted to impose their views on every place the colonized..In other words, those Europeans were aiming for a One World sort of Tower of Babel.  But this paragraph is niether this nor that..it's just an aside.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 12:06:35 PM
Skippy, Dexter, what is your counter-strategy on the outbreeding strategy of muslims and blacks in Europe?

To outbreed them, to become more educated and enlightened. To make them envious about your hard work...Once envy overtakes them, they will only end up killing each other like they do in the middle east.

Evil is not logical... Good is logical..good will always win..evil will just implode.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 12:10:30 PM


It's a matter of respect. I am angry with you about Europe. You beasts who are out breeding in your nation who dont' follow the law and have no respect.

Here, the similar things can be said about many illegal aliens (but not necessarily all) and Muzzies...they have no tolerance or respect for peopel that are citizens.

Now, one might argue..what about the Indigenous native americans and when the Europeans settled in North and South America?  I think Chaim answered this question a few months back and he even said that issue was that many Europeans at that time wanted to impose their views on every place the colonized..In other words, those Europeans were aiming for a One World sort of Tower of Babel.  But this paragraph is niether this nor that..it's just an aside.


DR.Dan I don't understand that quote...
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 12:13:46 PM
Where i wrote "YOU beasts..I meant Those beasts...I rewrote it...sorry :( i modified it those last two pasts..i think faster than i type.



It's a matter of respect. I am angry with you about Europe. You beasts who are out breeding in your nation who dont' follow the law and have no respect.

Here, the similar things can be said about many illegal aliens (but not necessarily all) and Muzzies...they have no tolerance or respect for peopel that are citizens.

Now, one might argue..what about the Indigenous native americans and when the Europeans settled in North and South America?  I think Chaim answered this question a few months back and he even said that issue was that many Europeans at that time wanted to impose their views on every place the colonized..In other words, those Europeans were aiming for a One World sort of Tower of Babel.  But this paragraph is niether this nor that..it's just an aside.


DR.Dan I don't understand that quote...
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 12:39:27 PM
Thank you  ;) I felt quite uncomfortable for a moment trying to understand what you mean.
It's good we have this forum to learn each-other better.
Anyway, I realise the European Nations have behaved as beasts against Jews during the Diaspora.

Now 60 years past the Second World War we realise that we are facing a new crisis, that will be not of lesser proportions than WWI or WWII.

This is the rise of Islam. The colonisation of Europe. and The Western World.

How to combat Islam? Is Islam the only enemy? no? How to fight the internal enemy??

We , Jews and non-Jews, in fact have not recovered from the traumas of the Holocaust,  the pogroms, the killings on Jews, the World Wars,
the collapse of the nation states, the fall of the USSR, the emerging EU,...

the Schisma between the various Churches, the Schisma between Judaism, and Christianity.


It is a turbulent time.

Facing a deadly enemy, Islam, operating in stealth on our territories, be it in Europe, Russia, the Balkans, USA, or Israel, they are colonising our cities, making no-go-zones, using guerilla warfare against us.

Concerning the colonised territories in the "New World", I am very "selfish" in that respect.
We have won the wars, we have been able to populate and outbreed the Indians.
now it is our turn to defend our lands....

We must not try to become P.C., and as a matter of fact , "turn the other cheek" to the enemies that are planning to do the same on us now.
If we do that, we will very much end as martyrs....
we must fight for our land, whether that is the Western World, Europe, Israel, USA, Serbia, Russia or whatever place the Islamisation is growing.


Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 01:02:31 PM
Thank you  ;) I felt quite uncomfortable for a moment trying to understand what you mean.
It's good we have this forum to learn each-other better.
Anyway, I realise the European Nations have behaved as beasts against Jews during the Diaspora.

Now 60 years past the Second World War we realise that we are facing a new crisis, that will be not of lesser proportions than WWI or WWII.

This is the rise of Islam. The colonisation of Europe. and The Western World.

How to combat Islam? Is Islam the only enemy? no? How to fight the internal enemy??

We , Jews and non-Jews, in fact have not recovered from the traumas of the Holocaust,  the pogroms, the killings on Jews, the World Wars,
the collapse of the nation states, the fall of the USSR, the emerging EU,...

the Schisma between the various Churches, the Schisma between Judaism, and Christianity.


It is a turbulent time.

Facing a deadly enemy, Islam, operating in stealth on our territories, be it in Europe, Russia, the Balkans, USA, or Israel, they are colonising our cities, making no-go-zones, using guerilla warfare against us.

Concerning the colonised territories in the "New World", I am very "selfish" in that respect.
We have won the wars, we have been able to populate and outbreed the Indians.
now it is our turn to defend our lands....

We must not try to become P.C., and as a matter of fact , "turn the other cheek" to the enemies that are planning to do the same on us now.
If we do that, we will very much end as martyrs....
we must fight for our land, whether that is the Western World, Europe, Israel, USA, Serbia, Russia or whatever place the Islamisation is growing.




I will also add to learn from our past...not to be overly PC and not to be overly xenophobic.  Once Islam is defeated, Gd willing, we have to be careful of the resergence of xenophobism like back in the day of the Nazis.  Both extremes are very bad.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Ambiorix on January 10, 2008, 01:28:38 PM
Thank you  ;) I felt quite uncomfortable for a moment trying to understand what you mean.
It's good we have this forum to learn each-other better.
Anyway, I realise the European Nations have behaved as beasts against Jews during the Diaspora.

Now 60 years past the Second World War we realise that we are facing a new crisis, that will be not of lesser proportions than WWI or WWII.

This is the rise of Islam. The colonisation of Europe. and The Western World.

How to combat Islam? Is Islam the only enemy? no? How to fight the internal enemy??

We , Jews and non-Jews, in fact have not recovered from the traumas of the Holocaust,  the pogroms, the killings on Jews, the World Wars,
the collapse of the nation states, the fall of the USSR, the emerging EU,...

the Schisma between the various Churches, the Schisma between Judaism, and Christianity.


It is a turbulent time.

Facing a deadly enemy, Islam, operating in stealth on our territories, be it in Europe, Russia, the Balkans, USA, or Israel, they are colonising our cities, making no-go-zones, using guerilla warfare against us.

Concerning the colonised territories in the "New World", I am very "selfish" in that respect.
We have won the wars, we have been able to populate and outbreed the Indians.
now it is our turn to defend our lands....

We must not try to become P.C., and as a matter of fact , "turn the other cheek" to the enemies that are planning to do the same on us now.
If we do that, we will very much end as martyrs....
we must fight for our land, whether that is the Western World, Europe, Israel, USA, Serbia, Russia or whatever place the Islamisation is growing.




I will also add to learn from our past...not to be overly PC and not to be overly xenophobic.  Once Islam is defeated, Gd willing, we have to be careful of the resergence of xenophobism like back in the day of the Nazis.  Both extremes are very bad.

The xenophobes of the Third Reich were obsessed with killing Jews and Slavic Europeans .

Of course, this is completely wrong, immoral, dangerous, counterproductive, satanic, evil, ....


in order to defeat Islam, we must concentrate our efforts on re-establishing religion, family, nation, moral values, and find ways , to improve all positive religions and nations towards mutual understanding,
if we do that, we can work together, instead of fighting each-other.

Today the world is too much governed by $$.
That promotes short-term thinking, and is a destructive factor in world politics.

Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 02:45:20 PM
Thank you  ;) I felt quite uncomfortable for a moment trying to understand what you mean.
It's good we have this forum to learn each-other better.
Anyway, I realise the European Nations have behaved as beasts against Jews during the Diaspora.

Now 60 years past the Second World War we realise that we are facing a new crisis, that will be not of lesser proportions than WWI or WWII.

This is the rise of Islam. The colonisation of Europe. and The Western World.

How to combat Islam? Is Islam the only enemy? no? How to fight the internal enemy??

We , Jews and non-Jews, in fact have not recovered from the traumas of the Holocaust,  the pogroms, the killings on Jews, the World Wars,
the collapse of the nation states, the fall of the USSR, the emerging EU,...

the Schisma between the various Churches, the Schisma between Judaism, and Christianity.


It is a turbulent time.

Facing a deadly enemy, Islam, operating in stealth on our territories, be it in Europe, Russia, the Balkans, USA, or Israel, they are colonising our cities, making no-go-zones, using guerilla warfare against us.

Concerning the colonised territories in the "New World", I am very "selfish" in that respect.
We have won the wars, we have been able to populate and outbreed the Indians.
now it is our turn to defend our lands....

We must not try to become P.C., and as a matter of fact , "turn the other cheek" to the enemies that are planning to do the same on us now.
If we do that, we will very much end as martyrs....
we must fight for our land, whether that is the Western World, Europe, Israel, USA, Serbia, Russia or whatever place the Islamisation is growing.




I will also add to learn from our past...not to be overly PC and not to be overly xenophobic.  Once Islam is defeated, Gd willing, we have to be careful of the resergence of xenophobism like back in the day of the Nazis.  Both extremes are very bad.

The xenophobes of the Third Reich were obsessed with killing Jews and Slavic Europeans .

Of course, this is completely wrong, immoral, dangerous, counterproductive, satanic, evil, ....


in order to defeat Islam, we must concentrate our efforts on re-establishing religion, family, nation, moral values, and find ways , to improve all positive religions and nations towards mutual understanding,
if we do that, we can work together, instead of fighting each-other.

Today the world is too much governed by $$.
That promotes short-term thinking, and is a destructive factor in world politics.




exactly!! Let's do it!
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 10, 2008, 04:39:41 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

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that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!
He  didn't say "bad gentiles"  he just said gentiles.  If  he qualified it, I wouldn't have a problem with it...Excuse me but shouldn't Jews be against  "bad Jews" who push their own agendas (liberal, selfish etc)?
No!  A Jew should never be against another Jew.  He may be against the ideology that a particular Jew may hold, but he is never against another Jew.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 04:51:57 PM
Wow, Skippy you sound like a real white supremacist. Please refrain from applying your racial theories to defining who is a Jew because you are completely wrong.

I am not  a white supremacist thank you very much! I am a supporter of my race I never said I want to to control the world, and kill everyone else.

Get your facts correct.

I said I don't want to see my race die out.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 04:54:48 PM
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Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.

correct and they are sub races of each other.
Arabs and Jews ? Maybe, you'll have to prove it, because I don't think Semites are a sub race, or any kind of a race. The Semites are only a group of people.

have you ever tried googling its 2 am for me. Cheers. Look up advanced genetic coding.
There is nothing, look for yourself. I looked and it came to StørmFrønt and other sites that don't say the Semites are a Sub-Race.

Quote
I find all 100% white men quailty because their familys have honour and chosen to stay with in their race.

 :D

 You need to look up medical site geez its basic. Not WN sites.
I googeld "Simetes Sub Race" and didn't found a thing. You are the one that claimed they are a Sub-Race and/or the Jews are a race, proove it.

You did even look up genetic coding, most lazy. you don't want to do it because you know you will learn something.
;D
I did, nothing apears. You are the lazy one that claim something but is to lazy to provide a source.

at 3 am in the morning I am entitled to be lazy lol You want to be spoon feed with everything, explains alot of things  ::)
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Lubab on January 10, 2008, 06:01:27 PM
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Requires Jews to stick together
Yes totally agree  O0

Quote
that we stick together against the Gentiles
Yes I agree too, against the bad gentiles that undermine the Jewish race, and push their own agendas!

Jews are not a race.

Yes they are.

Race is a bloodline, Jewish blood = Jewish Race.

Then Muslims are also a race. They go by patrilineal descent.

I don't care about Muslims.


You are Born a Jew correct, so its the blood that runs through your veins. DNA is what makes a race.

You can covert thats a belief system. Thats a religion.

Its a race and religion, ways has always will be.

Adam and Eve was the start of the Jewish people correct? Only two made from the one source, a start of a race, that no one was even like it on the planet.





No. Abraham was the first Jew. Adam's soul was a general soul which was a microcosm for all mankind including all the gentile nations as well as the Jews.

Jews are not a race because a) you can be any color and be Jewish b) even if you have "Jewish blood" you might be completely not Jewsih e.g. if you only your father is Jewish.

Being Jewish is only determined by one that: Jewish law i.e. the Torah.

If the Torah says you're Jewish you're Jewish. It's got nothing to do with DNA though Jews might share some DNA patterns.

Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 06:04:19 PM
lubab because you are a rabbi I respect what you say, not that I agree with it.

Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 06:41:44 PM
lubab because you are a rabbi I respect what you say, not that I agree with it.



you need to open your mind more, skippy...this close mindedness is unhealthy.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 07:44:20 PM
lubab because you are a rabbi I respect what you say, not that I agree with it.



you need to open your mind more, skippy...this close mindedness is unhealthy.

I spend alot of my time talking to a Rabbi Doc  ^-^

 its apart of a network and no one ever agrees, each week different subject :::D

Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 08:37:36 PM
lubab because you are a rabbi I respect what you say, not that I agree with it.



you need to open your mind more, skippy...this close mindedness is unhealthy.

I spend alot of my time talking to a Rabbi Doc  ^-^

 its apart of a network and no one ever agrees, each week different subject :::D



I mean to each their own..seriously...but because you are a friend of mine, it's unhealthy to think the way you think about race.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Nolandforshalom on January 10, 2008, 08:39:23 PM
I am not referring to anyone specifically, but to those of you that think you are Jews while defaming me, maybe you should google Lashon HaRa.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 10, 2008, 10:08:28 PM
I am not referring to anyone specifically, but to those of you that think you are Jews while defaming me, maybe you should google Lashon HaRa.


not talking about you.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Boeregeneraal on January 10, 2008, 11:13:45 PM
I am not referring to anyone specifically, but to those of you that think you are Jews while defaming me, maybe you should google Lashon HaRa.

No one on the forum knows you. It's not lashon hara.
so if it is not someone you know, and speaking about that person, it's not Lashon HaRa?
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Kiwi on January 10, 2008, 11:18:49 PM
lubab because you are a rabbi I respect what you say, not that I agree with it.



you need to open your mind more, skippy...this close mindedness is unhealthy.

I spend alot of my time talking to a Rabbi Doc  ^-^

 its apart of a network and no one ever agrees, each week different subject :::D



I mean to each their own..seriously...but because you are a friend of mine, it's unhealthy to think the way you think about race.

I know.......... Doc you are my friend too, I would miss you if you weren't.  ;)
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Dexter on January 11, 2008, 12:24:36 AM
Quote
Dexter DNA doesn't lie.

Exectly, DNA prooved Jews and Arabs are connected and the they are also connected to the Europeans and that they are actually part of the same race.

correct and they are sub races of each other.
Arabs and Jews ? Maybe, you'll have to prove it, because I don't think Semites are a sub race, or any kind of a race. The Semites are only a group of people.

have you ever tried googling its 2 am for me. Cheers. Look up advanced genetic coding.
There is nothing, look for yourself. I looked and it came to StørmFrønt and other sites that don't say the Semites are a Sub-Race.

Quote
I find all 100% white men quailty because their familys have honour and chosen to stay with in their race.

 :D

 You need to look up medical site geez its basic. Not WN sites.
I googeld "Simetes Sub Race" and didn't found a thing. You are the one that claimed they are a Sub-Race and/or the Jews are a race, proove it.

You did even look up genetic coding, most lazy. you don't want to do it because you know you will learn something.
;D
I did, nothing apears. You are the lazy one that claim something but is to lazy to provide a source.

at 3 am in the morning I am entitled to be lazy lol You want to be spoon feed with everything, explains alot of things  ::)
No, after I already googled and didn't find a thing and since it's not 3 AM already you should not be so tired and look for it yourself.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 11, 2008, 12:25:35 AM
I am not referring to anyone specifically, but to those of you that think you are Jews while defaming me, maybe you should google Lashon HaRa.
No one on the forum knows you. It's not lashon hara.
I know him.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 11, 2008, 12:28:29 AM
This is still going on?
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: Yisrael on January 11, 2008, 09:29:15 AM
I am not referring to anyone specifically, but to those of you that think you are Jews while defaming me, maybe you should google Lashon HaRa.
No one on the forum knows you. It's not lashon hara.
I know him.

Me too.
Title: Re: NOLANDFORSHALOM LOST HIS MIND.."stick together against gentiles"
Post by: JTFFan on January 11, 2008, 03:27:33 PM
I am not referring to anyone specifically, but to those of you that think you are Jews while defaming me, maybe you should google Lashon HaRa.
No one on the forum knows you. It's not lashon hara.
I know him.



Me too.

Yes