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Title: You opinion about the Zealots in the Great rebelion of 66-70 CE
Post by: Dexter on January 16, 2008, 04:22:46 PM
I think that only because of them we lost in our rebelion against the Romens, without those crazy blind people we might won the Romens.
Title: Re: You opinion about the Zealots in the Great rebelion of 66-70 CE
Post by: jdl4ever on January 16, 2008, 10:13:46 PM
R' Kahane discussed this in one of his speeches.  He said something like originally the Zealots had a valid Torah argument for trying to launch a preemptive war with evil Rome but then they went crazy and starting murdering Jews who didn't agree with them and other crazy things.  I agree with what you said. 
Title: Re: You opinion about the Zealots in the Great rebelion of 66-70 CE
Post by: Ultra Requete on February 04, 2008, 04:45:55 AM
Zealots were blinded fanatics who hated other Jews more than Romans. That's why Insurection failed half of Jews fought for the Romans becouse they feared zealots more.
Title: Re: You opinion about the Zealots in the Great rebelion of 66-70 CE
Post by: Dexter on February 04, 2008, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: Ultra Requete on February 04, 2008, 04:45:55 AM
Zealots were blinded fanatics who hated other Jews more than Romans. That's why Insurection failed half of Jews fought for the Romans becouse they feared zealots more.
No Jews fought for the Romans but only few. The Jews out of Jerusalem after the Zealots under the commend of Yochanan from Gush Chalev took the control under Jerusalem were or killed, enslaved or just were homlesses people who most of their family died and their wemon raped.
Title: Re: You opinion about the Zealots in the Great rebelion of 66-70 CE
Post by: Ambiorix on February 04, 2008, 12:18:15 PM
We as a matter of fact lost against the Roman empire too.
that's why i used Ambiorix as my screenname.

He was a tribe leader, that killed a roman legion in a surprise attack, after giving them his oath, of protecting them against the other Gaul tribes.

Ambiorix' tribe was slaughtered to the last child.
Ambiorix himself was the only one who did escape Caesar's revenge.
He is our national hero, for not surrendering to the Romans.

You see , the Jews and the "barbarians" up here in the north of Europe,
 have more in common than we sometimes think!
Title: Re: You opinion about the Zealots in the Great rebelion of 66-70 CE
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 04, 2008, 04:06:37 PM
Are you talking about the people who committed suicide on Masada?
Title: Re: You opinion about the Zealots in the Great rebelion of 66-70 CE
Post by: Dexter on February 04, 2008, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 04, 2008, 04:06:37 PM
Are you talking about the people who committed suicide on Masada?
No, I am talking about the Sicricis, Shim'on Bar Giora and Yochanan From Gush Chalev.
Title: Re: You opinion about the Zealots in the Great rebelion of 66-70 CE
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 04, 2008, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: Dexter on February 04, 2008, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 04, 2008, 04:06:37 PM
Are you talking about the people who committed suicide on Masada?
No, I am talking about the Sicricis, Shim'on Bar Giora and Yochanan From Gush Chalev.
Oh sorry, I didn't read the topic correctly...