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Title: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could trust
Post by: The Shadow on January 29, 2008, 11:10:00 PM
I sure learned my lesson a few times
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 29, 2008, 11:11:03 PM
Oh yes a few times thats for sure, the trick is knife them right back.
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Post by: JTFFan on January 29, 2008, 11:12:06 PM
Oh yes a few times thats for sure, the trick is knife them right back.

That's the best way O0
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 29, 2008, 11:15:41 PM
Oh yes a few times thats for sure, the trick is knife them right back.

That's the best way O0

Yup and quite satisfying too  ^-^
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Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on January 29, 2008, 11:23:08 PM
trick is not to put yourself in a position of vulnerability
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Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 29, 2008, 11:28:30 PM
trick is not to put yourself in a position of vulnerability

Easier said that done, I am way to trusting of people.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: KansasJew on January 29, 2008, 11:32:51 PM
This reminds me of the scene in Airplane at the disco where that old man gets stabbed in the back and everyone thinks he is an excellent dancer.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 29, 2008, 11:35:43 PM
no one has ever stuck a knife in my back...

but yes, I have felt in the past that I have been figuratively stabbed in the back...The thing is, i don't remember who or what or when...I know i have moved on wtih my life and who knows what's going on with their's.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 30, 2008, 12:00:19 AM
I believe allow people one free pass, and once they use it, thats it, hell can freeze over and the world can end and I will never once allow them that chance again.

I am a little stubborn  :P
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could trust
Post by: newman on January 30, 2008, 12:17:44 AM
Yes. So now I trust nobody.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could trust
Post by: Boeregeneraal on January 30, 2008, 01:35:24 AM
NEVER EVER trust a black! No matter how good they appear...NEVER!!!!

Don't believe me, your problem, you'll get one in the back quite soon then, literally!
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: White Israelite on January 30, 2008, 03:25:49 AM
Yeah a number of people stabbed me in the back

My best friend when I moved down here, he was there for me when my father passed away, I bought him a car because he was poor, the conditions were that he would at least help us move into our new house or just pay a small percentage of the cost back over time. He never paid a dime, never helped us move, just flat out ignored me and that was that. Paid 20,000 dollars for that car too.

Another friend, a Puerto Rican I was friends with I played paintball with on a regular basis. I let him borrow my 1300 dollar paintball gun for a tournament, he was really busy (on vacation) and I didn't get ahold of him for about a month, I asked him about my gun and he said he left it at his friends and that he would get back to me. Come 3 months later he says his friend stole it, well he says he will pay me back or get me another gun and call me back. Never get a call so I go to his house a week later, his moms there telling me to leave or she will call the police.

Bottom line is, DTA (Don't Trust Anyone).
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Post by: Boeregeneraal on January 30, 2008, 05:27:58 AM
Yeah a number of people stabbed me in the back

My best friend when I moved down here, he was there for me when my father passed away, I bought him a car because he was poor, the conditions were that he would at least help us move into our new house or just pay a small percentage of the cost back over time. He never paid a dime, never helped us move, just flat out ignored me and that was that. Paid 20,000 dollars for that car too.

Another friend, a Puerto Rican I was friends with I played paintball with on a regular basis. I let him borrow my 1300 dollar paintball gun for a tournament, he was really busy (on vacation) and I didn't get ahold of him for about a month, I asked him about my gun and he said he left it at his friends and that he would get back to me. Come 3 months later he says his friend stole it, well he says he will pay me back or get me another gun and call me back. Never get a call so I go to his house a week later, his moms there telling me to leave or she will call the police.

Bottom line is, DTA (Don't Trust Anyone).
damn, sorry to hear that! Especially the friend you bought the car for, basterd! Is the car on his or your name?-mayby you can take it back?

Your a great person Cohen O0
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could trust
Post by: whywhywhy on January 30, 2008, 06:30:35 AM
Yes at work by a religious Jew who has eight children
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: New Yorker on January 30, 2008, 09:28:47 AM
trick is not to put yourself in a position of vulnerability

Easier said that done, I am way to trusting of people.

Well that will wear off all on it's own if you get back-stabbed enough; And you'll learn that trust is to be earned.  ;)
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could trust
Post by: Sarah on January 30, 2008, 03:57:33 PM
Many times. Though i cannot victimise myself to it, as i've stabbed people in the back before, not intentionally to hurt them, but it's happened. Sometimes you can twist yourself into a situation which ends up like that.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 30, 2008, 04:24:06 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Sarah on January 30, 2008, 04:28:40 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.

So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 30, 2008, 04:56:52 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Well, that's largely allegorical, but yes - it is a Mitzvah D'oraisa (from the Torah directly) not to take revenge on a fellow Jew.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 30, 2008, 06:16:17 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.

So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?

Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 30, 2008, 09:38:49 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
But that's not how it works in Hashem's book...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 30, 2008, 10:08:11 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
But that's not how it works in Hashem's book...

Yes well we all know I am a poor excuse for a Jew, but it works for me  :::D
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Post by: White Israelite on January 30, 2008, 10:13:20 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
But that's not how it works in Hashem's book...

Yes well we all know I am a poor excuse for a Jew, but it works for me  :::D

Your Jewish?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 30, 2008, 10:14:12 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
But that's not how it works in Hashem's book...

Yes well we all know I am a poor excuse for a Jew, but it works for me  :::D

Your Jewish?

Yes
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: White Israelite on January 30, 2008, 10:16:08 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
But that's not how it works in Hashem's book...

Yes well we all know I am a poor excuse for a Jew, but it works for me  :::D

Your Jewish?

Yes

Oh, I always thought because of your signature that you were Xtian.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on January 30, 2008, 10:21:55 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
But that's not how it works in Hashem's book...
but there are laws and a Jewish court can decide a punishment
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 30, 2008, 10:22:22 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
But that's not how it works in Hashem's book...

Yes well we all know I am a poor excuse for a Jew, but it works for me  :::D

Your Jewish?

Yes

Oh, I always thought because of your signature that you were Xtian.

I am a very different type a Jew to most here, so it kinda makes a difference.  ;)
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 30, 2008, 10:36:51 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
But that's not how it works in Hashem's book...
but there are laws and a Jewish court can decide a punishment
Very true, but none of us are our own Beis Din, are we?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on January 30, 2008, 10:46:31 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
But that's not how it works in Hashem's book...
but there are laws and a Jewish court can decide a punishment
Very true, but none of us are our own Beis Din, are we?
of course not, but there are ways of getting "revenge", just it has to be taken to the Beit din
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: jdl4ever on January 30, 2008, 10:48:47 PM
I've been knifed in the back by a few "Rabbis".
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 30, 2008, 10:49:50 PM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Does in my book, regardless of belief, if a person betrays you, then they are fair game.
But that's not how it works in Hashem's book...
but there are laws and a Jewish court can decide a punishment
Very true, but none of us are our own Beis Din, are we?
of course not, but there are ways of getting "revenge", just it has to be taken to the Beit din
Ok, so then take it to a Beis Din, but I'm saying don't just take revenge on someone that did something to you because you feel it's justified.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 30, 2008, 11:03:28 PM
I've been knifed in the back by a few "Rabbis".

Thats not uncommon.  :-\
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on January 30, 2008, 11:23:32 PM
I've been knifed in the back by a few "Rabbis".

Thats not uncommon.  :-\
it seems like it is the easiest thing in the world to get ordaned lately. you don't even have to be religious if u get the reformed movement's ordination
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Post by: Boeregeneraal on January 30, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
I've been knifed in the back by a few "Rabbis".

Thats not uncommon.  :-\
it seems like it is the easiest thing in the world to get ordaned lately. you don't even have to be religious if u get the reformed movement's ordination
That's terrible!!! >:(
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 31, 2008, 12:16:56 AM
I've been knifed in the back by a few "Rabbis".

Thats not uncommon.  :-\
it seems like it is the easiest thing in the world to get ordaned lately. you don't even have to be religious if u get the reformed movement's ordination

Tell me about it, I was reading about the Gay Jews Fairying around with Gay Rabbis  :-\
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Boeregeneraal on January 31, 2008, 06:47:46 AM
I've been knifed in the back by a few "Rabbis".

Thats not uncommon.  :-\
it seems like it is the easiest thing in the world to get ordaned lately. you don't even have to be religious if u get the reformed movement's ordination

Tell me about it, I was reading about the Gay Jews Fairying around with Gay Rabbis  :-\
gay "Rabbi's'??  :o >:(
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 31, 2008, 06:56:02 AM
I've been knifed in the back by a few "Rabbis".

Thats not uncommon.  :-\
it seems like it is the easiest thing in the world to get ordaned lately. you don't even have to be religious if u get the reformed movement's ordination

Tell me about it, I was reading about the Gay Jews Fairying around with Gay Rabbis  :-\
gay "Rabbi's'??  :o >:(

It was an American site. Even got one Gay Rabbi on my Yahoo blog.
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Post by: Dexter on January 31, 2008, 10:18:39 AM
Jews must remember that they are not allowed to take revenge on other Jews.
So an eye for an eye, doesn't count on fellow Jews?
Well, that's largely allegorical, but yes - it is a Mitzvah D'oraisa (from the Torah directly) not to take revenge on a fellow Jew.
D'Oraita (From Aramic: of the Torah)
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: Merkava on January 31, 2008, 05:45:17 PM
Yes....I was stabbed 11 times on my back when I was living in Compton.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: jdl4ever on January 31, 2008, 11:57:48 PM
I was talking about Orthodox Charedi Rabbis.  They were far right extremist nutjobs that belong in a loony bin. 
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 01, 2008, 12:06:19 AM
I was talking about Orthodox Charedi Rabbis.  They were far right extremist nutjobs that belong in a loony bin. 
That's what people say about JTF...  ;)
Title: Re: Has anyone ever been knifed in the back by someone they thought they could t
Post by: White Israelite on February 11, 2008, 11:41:37 AM
My father (who is now deceased) was stabbed in the back by his own family. My father and his father had a falling out and were not talking for a while, he removed my father from his will (my grandfather was extremely wealthy) and when he died, all of the brothers except my father were named on the will. That crushed my father, and the 3 brothers said they would split it up, they did nothing.

They were living their life style in large houses, they had full control of my grandfathers land and sold it off, etc. When my father died, at the funeral I didn't want to speak to any of them. They made all kinds of promises how they would help us get through any financial problems we were having, and didn't even bother to give us a phone call.

While it wasn't specifically stabbing me in the back, our own family stabbed my mother, father, brother and I in the back. I still don't talk to them to this day and as far as I'm concerned I really don't care what their up to these days. That's a major reason we moved as far away from my fathers family as possible.
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Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 11, 2008, 08:46:46 PM
My father (who is now deceased) was stabbed in the back by his own family. My father and his father had a falling out and were not talking for a while, he removed my father from his will (my grandfather was extremely wealthy) and when he died, all of the brothers except my father were named on the will. That crushed my father, and the 3 brothers said they would split it up, they did nothing.

They were living their life style in large houses, they had full control of my grandfathers land and sold it off, etc. When my father died, at the funeral I didn't want to speak to any of them. They made all kinds of promises how they would help us get through any financial problems we were having, and didn't even bother to give us a phone call.

While it wasn't specifically stabbing me in the back, our own family stabbed my mother, father, brother and I in the back. I still don't talk to them to this day and as far as I'm concerned I really don't care what their up to these days. That's a major reason we moved as far away from my fathers family as possible.
Im sorry to hear that, Cohen.
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Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 11, 2008, 08:50:58 PM
My father (who is now deceased) was stabbed in the back by his own family. My father and his father had a falling out and were not talking for a while, he removed my father from his will (my grandfather was extremely wealthy) and when he died, all of the brothers except my father were named on the will. That crushed my father, and the 3 brothers said they would split it up, they did nothing.

They were living their life style in large houses, they had full control of my grandfathers land and sold it off, etc. When my father died, at the funeral I didn't want to speak to any of them. They made all kinds of promises how they would help us get through any financial problems we were having, and didn't even bother to give us a phone call.

While it wasn't specifically stabbing me in the back, our own family stabbed my mother, father, brother and I in the back. I still don't talk to them to this day and as far as I'm concerned I really don't care what their up to these days. That's a major reason we moved as far away from my fathers family as possible.
Im sorry to hear that, Cohen.

Its sad but family does not always mean loyality  :(