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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Madeline on January 30, 2008, 12:48:41 AM
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as part of a carnival float in Brazil.
This is from the blog, http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008. There is nothing I can say. Look at the picture, which I could not copy here.
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Is that legal?
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The link doesn't work now :o
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The link doesn't work? :o ???
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This one works:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/its-carnivale-d.html (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/its-carnivale-d.html)
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Odd. Why would they make a float like that? It doesn't make any sense! :-\ At least the bodies aren't real, but still, it could be really bad if it is seen as a celebration of the Holocaust of some sort and it encourages bad people to keep trying to harm Jews.
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I can see the shock value from some stupid organizer. But I hope that whoever thought of this float and who ever worked on it. May they be cursed by Ha Shem.
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I tried to copy the picture but couldn't for technical reasons.
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I don't find it sick. I find no more and no less than I except.
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This is a relief. A Brazilian judge banned the float as planned. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1201523804344&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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Brazilians are mish mash of many races
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This is disgraceful. The people who thought of this should be executed.
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This is disgraceful. The people who thought of this should be executed.
100% agree.
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the text tells more than the picture
"
Viraduro spokeswoman Eliane Lorca said the group had not yet seen the judge's order and that the president of the group would only comment after they had seen the "supposed decision."
The Jewish Federation praised the judge's decision.
"It's inadmissible that they could have a parade float depicting dead Jews and a live Hitler on top of them," said federation spokesman Jose Roitberg.
Reports in the media have said that Viradouro had planned to feature at least one dancer dressed as Adolf Hitler in the parade, using the theme: "It Gives you Goose Bumps."
Viradouro would neither confirm nor deny those plans.
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(http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2008/01/29/holocaust_float.jpg)
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I tried to copy the picture but couldn't for technical reasons.
when you write the post, one of the buttons in the tool bar makes "img" tags. Copy the URL of the picture, and paste it between the tags.
Something like this- but without the quotes.
" <img>http://abc.com/a.jpg</img> "
CORRECTION. square brackets [ ] .
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Looking again at the picture, I had to think about how much care it must take to fashion each one of those skeletal figures. And then to artistically place them atop each other, with random abandon. And then to put their shoes at the bottom of the float, shoes that have more flesh on them than the poor bodies. And the guy doing it looks so calm....
In a way, it's even more gruesome than the first time around in Nazi Germany, because so many people were swept up in that at the time. Now things are more rational on the surface, and yet people can do this...Gives proof that another Holocaust is on the way.
If you haven't seen it yet, go see a play called "The Last Jew In Europe." It's based on true events. Polish people use the decomposing bodies of Jews killed in WWII to grow the 'tastiest apples you ever ate.' The anti-Semitism of the Jews is as bad as the anti-Semitism of the gentiles. In a depressed, morally empty world, there is a feverish, maniacal interest in 'dead Jews.'
Last night there was a discussion led after the show by the director, Tuvia Tenenbom. He said that the level of hatred against Jews throughout Europe was very, very high - and that the Jewish organizations don't protest. This is Tuvia's act of protest against what he sees as an oncoming Holocaust.
It's an intelligently done avant garde play - and a big hit in Europe - but none of the NYC newspapers will review it, not even the Jewish ones. Call 212.494.0050 or email [email protected] for performance information. See it before it closes next month.
Sorry to speak so grimly, but if I can't do it here, where can I do it? The quiesence in my synagogue is eerie. When I send around emails about this, and things like it, I am told by some to stop the emails. I don't know of any rabbis, including mine, who are nationalistic, like Chaim. If someone knows of one in New York City, please tell me.
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I think there is this thing at Yad VaShem - holocaust memorial museum in israel.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/JackaNoodle/Memorial_at_Yad_Vashem_011984.jpg)
It has not been criticised.
It is not bad or evil to show the horror of the holocaust. It is bad to celebrate it and make a joke out of it. Like the brazil thing with a Hitler on top - as if victorious. Or the idea of a dancing hitler and message "does this give you goosebumbs" - as in brazil. That is sick. But the model itself at yad vashem is not..
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the worst is in poland, itself, at the camps. They have on show,
A pile of hair in one area.
A Piles of shoes in aother.
Suitcases in another.
Eye glasses in another.
A Gigantic bowel shaped structure outside, - full - of Ashes.
all the real thing of course.
The sick thing is that it happened. To say the display is sick misses the point.
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the worst is in poland, itself, at the camps. They have on show,
A pile of hair in one area.
A Piles of shoes in aother.
Suitcases in another.
Eye glasses in another.
A Gigantic bowel shaped structure outside, - full - of Ashes.
all the real thing of course.
The sick thing is that it happened. To say the display is sick misses the point.
That's is not for the show, it was left to remind the people that Holocaust did happened, and that Aushwitz was not build after the war by Soviets, as some historians, journalists,politicians and writers in the west (bank) claim now. It's not even the exposition but only the small part of property of late camps' victims which reatriting germans didn't had the time to ship into Reich proper. Aushwitz was not only death factory but the center of state organised economic robbery on living and dead prisoners. And don't write it's in Poland it was planed, build and operated by "cultured" and "civilised" german III Reich on land the german nazis conquered and anexed by force of "angelic" wermaht. ::) the only Poles inside camp were prisoners.