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Title: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 30, 2008, 12:26:02 PM
I have no idea how these foods became a racial issue but I got to tell ya.  Nothing like a nice juicy tasty piece of chicken and a slice of sweet juicy watermelon  8;)
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on January 30, 2008, 12:27:47 PM
I broke down and had KFC last week.  Spent 2 days on or over the toilet.  G-d it was horrible...  :-[
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Lisa on January 30, 2008, 12:35:55 PM
I like dark meat chicken and watermelon too. 

Marzutra, I would avoid the fast food places. 
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on January 30, 2008, 12:52:23 PM
I like dark meat chicken and watermelon too. 

Marzutra, I would avoid the fast food places. 
Point taken...literally.... ;)
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 30, 2008, 01:10:24 PM
I like dark meat chicken and watermelon too. 

Marzutra, I would avoid the fast food places. 
Point taken...literally.... ;)

I don't mind it fried once in a while and no not KFC, there is however these boxes you get from the supermarket that you can put in the toaster oven and aren't have bad.


And watermelon is great...

How in the world these food items though became a race issue?  LOL  Now I don't like grape soda.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 30, 2008, 02:25:03 PM
This is like an AA meeting.  :::D "Hi. I'm Joe and I love fried chicken and watermelon.  :-[ "
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 30, 2008, 03:12:37 PM
Well let me ask you something Erica, why is Ripple and Mad Dog 2020 popular among blacks?  Ripple became common with Fred Sanford and the old dude from good times
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 30, 2008, 03:35:00 PM
Well let me ask you something Erica, why is Ripple and Mad Dog 2020 popular among blacks?  Ripple became common with Fred Sanford and the old dude from good times
I don't drink, Masterwolf. So you're asking the wrong person. And here you go, assuming that just because some blacks drink that crap that everyone in the black race does.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 30, 2008, 04:22:25 PM
I like chicken, but not fried.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 30, 2008, 04:24:38 PM
Well let me ask you something Erica, why is Ripple and Mad Dog 2020 popular among blacks?  Ripple became common with Fred Sanford and the old dude from good times
I don't drink, Masterwolf. So you're asking the wrong person. And here you go, assuming that just because some blacks drink that crap that everyone in the black race does.

I am not asking if you drink it, I am asking why these praticular drinks are popular including 40 oz.  And I didn't say every black.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 30, 2008, 04:28:13 PM
Well let me ask you something Erica, why is Ripple and Mad Dog 2020 popular among blacks?  Ripple became common with Fred Sanford and the old dude from good times
I don't drink, Masterwolf. So you're asking the wrong person. And here you go, assuming that just because some blacks drink that crap that everyone in the black race does.

I am not asking if you drink it, I am asking why these praticular drinks are popular including 40 oz.  And I didn't say every black.
You are asking the wrong person, Masterwolf. I don't know why some blacks prefer drinking 40 oz. of beer. Just like I don't know why some white people drink Samuel Adams beer. Maybe they think it tastes good? I don't know.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on January 30, 2008, 05:00:22 PM
I remember when I first moved to the States, my boss told me that the rule of thumb here is when you see more than one fried chicken place or stores "we cash checks" on one block...TURN AROUND!!   Yus be'n da wong nabahood O0
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 30, 2008, 05:05:03 PM
I remember when I first moved to the States, my boss told me that the rule of thumb here is when you see more than one fried chicken place or stores "we cash checks" on one block...TURN AROUND!!   Yus be'n da wong nabahood O0
I don't know why I was even thinking about entertaining this comment.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 30, 2008, 05:41:06 PM
Going through Harlem you see that, or parts of Brooklyn specially in the summer with the big bottle of 40 oz beer in the brown paper bag they go in the subways with that smelling of urine and beer.

Man can they clear a subway car.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 30, 2008, 05:41:54 PM
This is like an AA meeting.  :::D "Hi. I'm Joe and I love fried chicken and watermelon.  :-[ "



On JTF, when we say AA, we mean affirmative action.


I meant AA as in Alcoholics Anonymous, Yacov.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 30, 2008, 11:10:23 PM
This is like an AA meeting.  :::D "Hi. I'm Joe and I love fried chicken and watermelon.  :-[ "



On JTF, when we say AA, we mean affirmative action.


I meant AA as in Alcoholics Anonymous, Yacov.


I know. Did you know what we mean by it?


Yes, I know what you mean by it. Affirmative Action here stands for blacks who get a free pass to jobs, schools, etc. It's not fair that you label EVERY black with that title...but yes, I know what you mean.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 31, 2008, 11:13:05 AM
You know how hard it is to find watermelon this time of year?
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 31, 2008, 11:58:02 AM
You know how hard it is to find watermelon this time of year?
I really don't care, Masterwolf. I'm even less concerned that you care. It's food.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Vito on January 31, 2008, 12:06:41 PM
Well let me ask you something Erica, why is Ripple and Mad Dog 2020 popular among blacks?  Ripple became common with Fred Sanford and the old dude from good times
I don't drink, Masterwolf. So you're asking the wrong person. And here you go, assuming that just because some blacks drink that crap that everyone in the black race does.

Actually that sounds pretty accurate. When Nextel became "gangstah", all the melangianas bought Nextel phones. When the spreewells' (spinning wheels) were in a rap video, they all bought them. When the Chrysler 300 was in a rap video, they all bought them. When fifty cents advertised Vitamin water, they all bought them.
So it's safe to say they are VERY influenced by what's advertised to them by blacks.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 31, 2008, 01:17:37 PM
Well let me ask you something Erica, why is Ripple and Mad Dog 2020 popular among blacks?  Ripple became common with Fred Sanford and the old dude from good times
I don't drink, Masterwolf. So you're asking the wrong person. And here you go, assuming that just because some blacks drink that crap that everyone in the black race does.

Actually that sounds pretty accurate. When Nextel became "gangstah", all the melangianas bought Nextel phones. When the spreewells' (spinning wheels) were in a rap video, they all bought them. When the Chrysler 300 was in a rap video, they all bought them. When fifty cents advertised Vitamin water, they all bought them.
So it's safe to say they are VERY influenced by what's advertised to them by blacks.
Maybe they're more enticed by the product than who is pushing it. It's very easy to blame the reason why some whites behave as they do on blacks. It's kind of like what the Californians did about 10 years ago after the huge storm, El Nino, hit... They blamed inflation on El Nino, the price of oil on El Nino, the rising and setting of the sun ...on El Nino. lol White people have their own minds. Hell, if blacks were as influential towards whites as you think, when it comes to negativity, a lot of people here wouldn't hate me. I'd have hypnotised them into liking what I like and thinking how I think. What a dumb idea that would be.  ::)
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 31, 2008, 02:15:54 PM
El Nino's chicken is in a fajia?
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 31, 2008, 02:19:45 PM
El Nino's chicken is in a fajia?
Come again?
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 31, 2008, 07:41:50 PM
El Nino's Chicken Fajita.. Lighten up will ya
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 31, 2008, 07:59:05 PM
El Nino's Chicken Fajita.. Lighten up will ya
Little late for that, isn't it? If I can admit that evil blacks should take responsibility for their own actions, why can't you say the same about evil whites?
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 31, 2008, 09:09:54 PM
Whites will condem and condem with vigor to what evil whites do.. where are the black leaders condeming evil behavior in black communities, homes and so forth?
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 31, 2008, 09:23:35 PM
Whites will condem and condem with vigor to what evil whites do.. where are the black leaders condeming evil behavior in black communities, homes and so forth?
Black 'leaders' hold summits to stop mysogeny in hip hop. There are people who are active in the black community in general who are lobbying to stop all kinds of behavior and preventing black teens from getting to the point of no return.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on January 31, 2008, 09:25:16 PM
Forget it being an up-hill battle.  That must be akin to climbing a mountain.....
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 31, 2008, 09:26:19 PM
Forget it being an up-hill battle.  That must be akin to climbing a mountain.....
Well, like Montel Williams said "Mountain! Get out of my way!"
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on January 31, 2008, 09:28:09 PM
May G-d help them.  Their going to need all the help they can get....
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 31, 2008, 11:08:29 PM
Whites will condem and condem with vigor to what evil whites do.. where are the black leaders condeming evil behavior in black communities, homes and so forth?
Black 'leaders' hold summits to stop mysogeny in hip hop. There are people who are active in the black community in general who are lobbying to stop all kinds of behavior and preventing black teens from getting to the point of no return.


It is way more then just the "hip hop" thing, it goes way deeper then that.  Billions have been poured alone in over the last 50 years alone in these inner cities and the worst results come out of it.  You put money in housing projects within weeks windows are shattered and smell of urine all over, crack viles littered in hall ways.   It is a rot.   Didn't Rabbi Kahane said they are the eternal mal content?  I think Chaim a few times mentioned that.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 31, 2008, 11:17:55 PM
Whites will condem and condem with vigor to what evil whites do.. where are the black leaders condeming evil behavior in black communities, homes and so forth?
Black 'leaders' hold summits to stop mysogeny in hip hop. There are people who are active in the black community in general who are lobbying to stop all kinds of behavior and preventing black teens from getting to the point of no return.


It is way more then just the "hip hop" thing, it goes way deeper then that.  Billions have been poured alone in over the last 50 years alone in these inner cities and the worst results come out of it.  You put money in housing projects within weeks windows are shattered and smell of urine all over, crack viles littered in hall ways.   It is a rot.   Didn't Rabbi Kahane said they are the eternal mal content?  I think Chaim a few times mentioned that.
You guys ask what's being done in the black community to stop certain things, then question why other things in the community aren't being taken care of. We can't stop what's already been started, when it comes to what shape public housing projects are in...we can help to change the menality of those who reside there. It took years for them to get to where they are, it'll take many more to get them where they need to be.

My husband, my family , and friends came out of the projects and consider ourselves lucky to be GREAT results.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: jdl4ever on January 31, 2008, 11:41:38 PM
I love watermelon ... especially the seedless watermelon. 

Very good Erica, you are one of the good blacks.  Except I'm not so sure since that abortion you did may not have been justified ... but that's up to G-d, not me.  I see a couple of fairly righteous blacks at the Hospitals usually the Black emigrants who are the nurses and the janitors.  Although some of the females are very nasty and should be fired.  And when the Jenna six thing came about they were jumping all over that and assuming it was the white kid's fault. 
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on January 31, 2008, 11:57:13 PM
I love watermelon ... especially the seedless watermelon. 

Very good Erica, you are one of the good blacks.  Except I'm not so sure since that abortion you did may not have been justified ... but that's up to G-d, not me.  I see a couple of fairly righteous blacks at the Hospitals usually the Black emigrants who are the nurses and the janitors.  Although some of the females are very nasty and should be fired.  And when the Jenna six thing came about they were jumping all over that and assuming it was the white kid's fault. 

What? My abortion may not have been justified? Do me a favor, jdl. When you become a woman who  has taken a precaution not to become pregnant, is in danger of being sick with the same disease with every pregnancy which takes away YOUR mobility, swells up every part of your body, prevents you from taking care of your other children, being sick until the day you give birth (prematurely) , seeing your child hooked up to machines in NICU...then you talk to me. I already cleared what I did with God and there isn't a day that goes by that I don't look at other babies and feel guilt. In the end, I did what I had to do for my own health, sanity, and to be available for my other children because they couldn't take care of themselves. Having ecclampsia and Pre ecclampsia 3 times in a row was dangerous for me...imagine what a fourth time would have been like.

The Jena Six situation. The white boy called the black boys derrogatory names and the black boys jumped him for it. It wasn't a good idea for them to do, because they could have easily walked away from the situation. Who started it? Both the black boys and the white kid started it.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 01, 2008, 01:03:25 AM
I have no idea how these foods became a racial issue but I got to tell ya.  Nothing like a nice juicy tasty piece of chicken and a slice of sweet juicy watermelon  8;)

I with you both foods are very good.  O0
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on February 01, 2008, 09:59:34 AM
Abortion is totally justified under Judaism.  1. In the case of incest.  2. In the case of rape.  3. In the case when the life of the mother is in question.   ;)
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Vito on February 01, 2008, 10:40:18 AM
Abortion is totally justified under Judaism.  1. In the case of incest.  2. In the case of rape.  3. In the case when the life of the mother is in question.   ;)

Chaim said abortion is not justified under rape, and he didn't mention anything about incest..
He only said abortion is justified under Judaism if the mother's life is in danger...
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 01, 2008, 11:01:00 AM
Abortion is totally justified under Judaism.  1. In the case of incest.  2. In the case of rape.  3. In the case when the life of the mother is in question.   ;)
In neither cases of incest nor rape is it justified.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 01, 2008, 11:04:42 AM
Abortion is totally justified under Judaism.  1. In the case of incest.  2. In the case of rape.  3. In the case when the life of the mother is in question.   ;)
In neither cases of incest nor rape is it justified.
When you put it like that, you make it seem as though it's the victim's fault that they got pregnant by their rapist. Like they asked for the abuse. I don't understand that line of thinking.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on February 01, 2008, 11:14:30 AM
That's funny my Orthodox Rabbi said those were the three Halachically justifiable situations under Judaism for abortion, thus Jews must be pro-Abortion because if all abortions were outlawed it would thus violate the three stipulations under Halacha...

I don't understand how you cannot see logic Erica.  If a woman is raped she is granted an abortion, as too with the product of incest and if her life is in danger due to the birth/pregnancy process.  Judaism places the woman far ahead of the unborn child...  Nothing whatsoever to do with being the victim's fault they got pregnant.  I don't know how you came up with that comment....   ???
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 01, 2008, 11:41:15 AM
That's funny my Orthodox Rabbi said those were the three Halachically justifiable situations under Judaism for abortion, thus Jews must be pro-Abortion because if all abortions were outlawed it would thus violate the three stipulations under Halacha...

I don't understand how you cannot see logic Erica.  If a woman is raped she is granted an abortion, as too with the product of incest and if her life is in danger due to the birth/pregnancy process.  Judaism places the woman far ahead of the unborn child...  Nothing whatsoever to do with being the victim's fault they got pregnant.  I don't know how you came up with that comment....   ???
I am a sexual abuse survivor. I'm more than sure that if I had become pregnant because I was raped at 17, I would have aborted because  the rape was enough to break me...imagine if I had been pregnant by the rapist how deep into depression, guilt, and most likely suicidal thoughts I'd have been in? I was speaking from a sexual abuse survivor's point of view in response to Odkahane's opinion. When women are looked down upon for aborting because of incest or rape, I think that's sad.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 01, 2008, 11:55:22 AM
Abortion is totally justified under Judaism.  1. In the case of incest.  2. In the case of rape.  3. In the case when the life of the mother is in question.   ;)
In neither cases of incest nor rape is it justified.
When you put it like that, you make it seem as though it's the victim's fault that they got pregnant by their rapist. Like they asked for the abuse. I don't understand that line of thinking.
Come on Erica, that's just stupid.  Is it the victim's fault she was raped?  Absolutely not!  Does being raped, though, give her the right to kill a person?  No!  The only, only, ONLY time the baby is allowed to be killed is if the baby is posing a direct threat to the woman's life.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 01, 2008, 11:59:50 AM
Abortion is totally justified under Judaism.  1. In the case of incest.  2. In the case of rape.  3. In the case when the life of the mother is in question.   ;)
In neither cases of incest nor rape is it justified.
When you put it like that, you make it seem as though it's the victim's fault that they got pregnant by their rapist. Like they asked for the abuse. I don't understand that line of thinking.
Come on Erica, that's just stupid.  Is it the victim's fault she was raped?  Absolutely not!  Does being raped, though, give her the right to kill a person?  No!  The only, only, ONLY time the baby is allowed to be killed is if the baby is posing a direct threat to the woman's life.
It's not stupid. I don't think men think about the well-being of the victim when it comes to pregnancy and rape. They expect the victim to snap back as though nothing happened and move on with life. It's not that easy. Since you aren't a woman and have never experienced terrible circumstances surrounding the need to abort, I wouldn't expect you to understand.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on February 01, 2008, 12:03:27 PM
I've already stated the case that Judaism holds the life of the woman very high...as formerly stated.  OKC, I believe you are mistaken because only a few days ago did my Rabbi and I have an entire discussion on this subject.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 01, 2008, 12:06:53 PM
I've already stated the case that Judaism holds the life of the woman very high...as formerly stated.  OKC, I believe you are mistaken because only a few days ago did my Rabbi and I have an entire discussion on this subject.
I was responding to Odkahane who said that incest and rape doesn't make abortion okay.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on February 01, 2008, 12:12:10 PM
Sorry to hear of your unfortunate experience.  I must say that it doesn't surpize me whatsoever considering, what is it now, 1 in 3 women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime?  This is revolting.  I remember when the chances were so low that it wasn't even an issue.  I guess there are many factors that contributed to this: The Pill, Feminism, Sexual Liberation, "The Civil Rights Movement" and the total moral collapse of the West as Socialism now replaces any aspect of Conservatism...  imo
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 01, 2008, 12:15:43 PM
I've already stated the case that Judaism holds the life of the woman very high...as formerly stated.  OKC, I believe you are mistaken because only a few days ago did my Rabbi and I have an entire discussion on this subject.
Who is your Rabbi?  I have never heard of such an opinion.  BTW, when Dina was raped by Shchem, she had the baby, even though she was only 12 (or maybe it was 10).  This baby (according to many opinions) was Asenas, who was the wife of Yosef, and the mother of Ephraim and Menashe, and therefore she was the ancestor of the great prophet Yehoshua.  Just something to think about...
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on February 01, 2008, 12:17:09 PM
You are 100% right, that was before the Torah was given and that is also a part of the Halacha... O0
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 01, 2008, 12:22:05 PM
I've already stated the case that Judaism holds the life of the woman very high...as formerly stated.  OKC, I believe you are mistaken because only a few days ago did my Rabbi and I have an entire discussion on this subject.
Who is your Rabbi?  I have never heard of such an opinion.  BTW, when Dina was raped by Shchem, she had the baby, even though she was only 12 (or maybe it was 10).  This baby (according to many opinions) was Asenas, who was the wife of Yosef, and the mother of Ephraim and Menashe, and therefore she was the ancestor of the great prophet Yehoshua.  Just something to think about...
I respect that bit of info, but that has nothing to do with how women psychologically deal with rape, incest and pregnancy because of the abuse. not every woman will be as strong as another woman who gives birth to a rapist's baby. I think women who do that are admirable because they are able to separate the abuse from giving birth. You cannot expect a woman who has been abused in either case to just snap back into her old self because a woman in Jewish history gave birth and kept the baby.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 01, 2008, 12:28:44 PM
You are 100% right, that was before the Torah was given and that is also a part of the Halacha... O0
You missed the moral of the story.  The point is, where would the Jewish people be today if Asenas, who was conceived from the rape of a young girl, Dina, had not been born?

I've already stated the case that Judaism holds the life of the woman very high...as formerly stated.  OKC, I believe you are mistaken because only a few days ago did my Rabbi and I have an entire discussion on this subject.
Who is your Rabbi?  I have never heard of such an opinion.  BTW, when Dina was raped by Shchem, she had the baby, even though she was only 12 (or maybe it was 10).  This baby (according to many opinions) was Asenas, who was the wife of Yosef, and the mother of Ephraim and Menashe, and therefore she was the ancestor of the great prophet Yehoshua.  Just something to think about...
I respect that bit of info, but that has nothing to do with how women psychologically deal with rape, incest and pregnancy because of the abuse. not every woman will be as strong as another woman who gives birth to a rapist's baby. I think women who do that are admirable because they are able to separate the abuse from giving birth. You cannot expect a woman who has been abused in either case to just snap back into her old self because a woman in Jewish history gave birth and kept the baby.
I'm not denying that it will be extremely psychologically difficult for the raped woman, but that's not a reason to kill a person.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on February 01, 2008, 12:35:34 PM
In honor of Black History month MMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMM

KFC AND TOILET PAPER FOR EVERYONE!
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 01, 2008, 12:37:15 PM
You are 100% right, that was before the Torah was given and that is also a part of the Halacha... O0
You missed the moral of the story.  The point is, where would the Jewish people be today if Asenas, who was conceived from the rape of a young girl, Dina, had not been born?

I've already stated the case that Judaism holds the life of the woman very high...as formerly stated.  OKC, I believe you are mistaken because only a few days ago did my Rabbi and I have an entire discussion on this subject.
Who is your Rabbi?  I have never heard of such an opinion.  BTW, when Dina was raped by Shchem, she had the baby, even though she was only 12 (or maybe it was 10).  This baby (according to many opinions) was Asenas, who was the wife of Yosef, and the mother of Ephraim and Menashe, and therefore she was the ancestor of the great prophet Yehoshua.  Just something to think about...
I respect that bit of info, but that has nothing to do with how women psychologically deal with rape, incest and pregnancy because of the abuse. not every woman will be as strong as another woman who gives birth to a rapist's baby. I think women who do that are admirable because they are able to separate the abuse from giving birth. You cannot expect a woman who has been abused in either case to just snap back into her old self because a woman in Jewish history gave birth and kept the baby.
I'm not denying that it will be extremely psychologically difficult for the raped woman, but that's not a reason to kill a person.
You're assuming that a raped woman will be psychologically well enough to  make a decision to keep a baby which was concieved during a violent, dispicable act. Asking a woman to keep a baby concieved in such a way is just like saying "The rapist gave you a gift... accept it and move on."
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 01, 2008, 12:38:36 PM
In honor of Black History month MMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMM

KFC AND TOILET PAPER FOR EVERYONE!
You're sick.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 01, 2008, 12:55:45 PM
You are 100% right, that was before the Torah was given and that is also a part of the Halacha... O0
You missed the moral of the story.  The point is, where would the Jewish people be today if Asenas, who was conceived from the rape of a young girl, Dina, had not been born?

I've already stated the case that Judaism holds the life of the woman very high...as formerly stated.  OKC, I believe you are mistaken because only a few days ago did my Rabbi and I have an entire discussion on this subject.
Who is your Rabbi?  I have never heard of such an opinion.  BTW, when Dina was raped by Shchem, she had the baby, even though she was only 12 (or maybe it was 10).  This baby (according to many opinions) was Asenas, who was the wife of Yosef, and the mother of Ephraim and Menashe, and therefore she was the ancestor of the great prophet Yehoshua.  Just something to think about...
I respect that bit of info, but that has nothing to do with how women psychologically deal with rape, incest and pregnancy because of the abuse. not every woman will be as strong as another woman who gives birth to a rapist's baby. I think women who do that are admirable because they are able to separate the abuse from giving birth. You cannot expect a woman who has been abused in either case to just snap back into her old self because a woman in Jewish history gave birth and kept the baby.
I'm not denying that it will be extremely psychologically difficult for the raped woman, but that's not a reason to kill a person.
You're assuming that a raped woman will be psychologically well enough to  make a decision to keep a baby which was concieved during a violent, dispicable act. Asking a woman to keep a baby concieved in such a way is just like saying "The rapist gave you a gift... accept it and move on."
Ok, so she won't raise the baby, it can be put up for adoption.  Still not an excuse to kill a person...
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 01, 2008, 01:00:57 PM
You are 100% right, that was before the Torah was given and that is also a part of the Halacha... O0
You missed the moral of the story.  The point is, where would the Jewish people be today if Asenas, who was conceived from the rape of a young girl, Dina, had not been born?

I've already stated the case that Judaism holds the life of the woman very high...as formerly stated.  OKC, I believe you are mistaken because only a few days ago did my Rabbi and I have an entire discussion on this subject.
Who is your Rabbi?  I have never heard of such an opinion.  BTW, when Dina was raped by Shchem, she had the baby, even though she was only 12 (or maybe it was 10).  This baby (according to many opinions) was Asenas, who was the wife of Yosef, and the mother of Ephraim and Menashe, and therefore she was the ancestor of the great prophet Yehoshua.  Just something to think about...
I respect that bit of info, but that has nothing to do with how women psychologically deal with rape, incest and pregnancy because of the abuse. not every woman will be as strong as another woman who gives birth to a rapist's baby. I think women who do that are admirable because they are able to separate the abuse from giving birth. You cannot expect a woman who has been abused in either case to just snap back into her old self because a woman in Jewish history gave birth and kept the baby.
I'm not denying that it will be extremely psychologically difficult for the raped woman, but that's not a reason to kill a person.
You're assuming that a raped woman will be psychologically well enough to  make a decision to keep a baby which was concieved during a violent, dispicable act. Asking a woman to keep a baby concieved in such a way is just like saying "The rapist gave you a gift... accept it and move on."
Ok, so she won't raise the baby, it can be put up for adoption.  Still not an excuse to kill a person...
You still don't get it. Not every woman who has become pregnant as a result of rape or incest will be sane enough to go through a pregnancy full term.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on February 01, 2008, 01:02:21 PM
In honor of Black History month MMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMM

KFC AND TOILET PAPER FOR EVERYONE!
You're sick.

Sick?  That fried food sends people hours in the bathroom.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 01, 2008, 01:04:15 PM
You are 100% right, that was before the Torah was given and that is also a part of the Halacha... O0
You missed the moral of the story.  The point is, where would the Jewish people be today if Asenas, who was conceived from the rape of a young girl, Dina, had not been born?

I've already stated the case that Judaism holds the life of the woman very high...as formerly stated.  OKC, I believe you are mistaken because only a few days ago did my Rabbi and I have an entire discussion on this subject.
Who is your Rabbi?  I have never heard of such an opinion.  BTW, when Dina was raped by Shchem, she had the baby, even though she was only 12 (or maybe it was 10).  This baby (according to many opinions) was Asenas, who was the wife of Yosef, and the mother of Ephraim and Menashe, and therefore she was the ancestor of the great prophet Yehoshua.  Just something to think about...
I respect that bit of info, but that has nothing to do with how women psychologically deal with rape, incest and pregnancy because of the abuse. not every woman will be as strong as another woman who gives birth to a rapist's baby. I think women who do that are admirable because they are able to separate the abuse from giving birth. You cannot expect a woman who has been abused in either case to just snap back into her old self because a woman in Jewish history gave birth and kept the baby.
I'm not denying that it will be extremely psychologically difficult for the raped woman, but that's not a reason to kill a person.
You're assuming that a raped woman will be psychologically well enough to  make a decision to keep a baby which was concieved during a violent, dispicable act. Asking a woman to keep a baby concieved in such a way is just like saying "The rapist gave you a gift... accept it and move on."
Ok, so she won't raise the baby, it can be put up for adoption.  Still not an excuse to kill a person...
You still don't get it. Not every woman who has become pregnant as a result of rape or incest will be sane enough to go through a pregnancy full term.
How?  What would happen, if she's not allowed to get an abortion?
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 01, 2008, 01:06:04 PM
In honor of Black History month MMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMM

KFC AND TOILET PAPER FOR EVERYONE!
You're sick.

Sick?  That fried food sends people hours in the bathroom.
You assume a lot but this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. BHM isn't about celebrating with food. It's about researching black history.  I could just as well take my family out to a Chinese restaurant to eat. What a biggoted response.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Ambiorix on February 01, 2008, 01:17:30 PM
In honor of Black History month MMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMM

KFC AND TOILET PAPER FOR EVERYONE!
You're sick.

Sick?  That fried food sends people hours in the bathroom.
You assume a lot but this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. BHM isn't about celebrating with food. It's about researching black history.  I could just as well take my family out to a Chinese restaurant to eat. What a biggoted response.
It's about destroying USA, not about African "history"
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 01, 2008, 01:18:57 PM
In honor of Black History month MMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMM

KFC AND TOILET PAPER FOR EVERYONE!
You're sick.

Sick?  That fried food sends people hours in the bathroom.
You assume a lot but this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. BHM isn't about celebrating with food. It's about researching black history.  I could just as well take my family out to a Chinese restaurant to eat. What a biggoted response.
It's about destroying USA, not about African "history"
You are contributing to the destruction of common sense by subscribing to the hatred you have for blacks. Get over yourself.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Ambiorix on February 01, 2008, 01:25:47 PM
In honor of Black History month MMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMM

KFC AND TOILET PAPER FOR EVERYONE!
You're sick.

Sick?  That fried food sends people hours in the bathroom.
You assume a lot but this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. BHM isn't about celebrating with food. It's about researching black history.  I could just as well take my family out to a Chinese restaurant to eat. What a biggoted response.
It's about destroying USA, not about African "history"
You are contributing to the destruction of common sense by subscribing to the hatred you have for blacks. Get over yourself.
No.
Blacks and muslims, are planning to overthrow us in our own countries, as revenge for what we did.
We must defend ourselves, and not listen to takkia-monsters, like you, or like all those muslims,
talking about peace....

I hate blacks, and muslims, because they actually destroy my country, Belgium.
I know it is the same in all of Europe and USA.

if they give up their evil culture, with the millions, so that blacks, become 60+% good moral people,
i would favour to live in peace. But right now, there is no reason to assume that the majority of muslims and blacks,
once they become a majority, will treat us in a civilised manner.
Look at South-africa, look at Congo, look at Zimbabwe.

Do you think I want to commit suicide, to let my country, my european brothers and sisters die, and stand idle?
Blacks are killing whites much more in the USA, then oposite.

Why do you ignore these facts?
Lots of blacks hate us,

I hate those that hate me.

I still find that you defend different morals than JTF stands for.

What do you actually think about JTF?

Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MarZutra on February 01, 2008, 02:11:05 PM
Od, I'd suggest you ask your Rabbi.  There are 3 areas where abortion is in accordance with Halacha...
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on February 01, 2008, 04:29:25 PM
What in the world is ebonics? Is that a language for people that are just too lazy to speak English?
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: cjd on February 01, 2008, 04:36:39 PM
What in the world is ebonics? Is that a language for people that are just too lazy to speak English?
It a name given to a disorder some black folks have that can't speak correctly. Over the years dealing with some black folks that speak like that I notice that no matter how careful you say a word or name to them if they repeat it back to you it will be wrong. I really believe its how their brain processes the sound.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: MasterWolf1 on February 03, 2008, 12:18:58 AM
And whites copy this trying to speak Ebonics and don't realize how stupid they sound as well.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: newman on February 03, 2008, 12:31:31 AM
What in the world is ebonics? Is that a language for people that are just too lazy to speak English?
It a name given to a disorder some black folks have that can't speak correctly. Over the years dealing with some black folks that speak like that I notice that no matter how careful you say a word or name to them if they repeat it back to you it will be wrong. I really believe its how their brain processes the sound.
Are blacks the only minority to get a special name for their form of bastardised english?

What about the wetbacks who talk like the two mexican crows in the Bugs Bunny cartoons....."Stoopeeed!"

Or what about redecks?......."Dang! You sho' do got a pretty mouf!"
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: genteelgentile on February 03, 2008, 03:05:49 AM
I am white and love 40 ounce malt liquor and gold teef...
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: newman on February 03, 2008, 03:13:06 AM
I am white and love 40 ounce malt liquor and gold teef...

That there's fancy stuff, boy. Liquor should come in a 5 gallon jug from the back 440 Wedge-equipped dodge.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 03:46:33 AM
I am white and love 40 ounce malt liquor and gold teef...

That there's fancy stuff, boy. Liquor should come in a 5 gallon jug from the back 440 Wedge-equipped dodge.
Newman, that's not funny at all. In Texas, about 4 years ago, a black man was picked up by a group of kkk members, beaten , tied up behind their pickup truck, and dragged for 1.5 miles. Don't joke about things like that. It  may seem like sattire for you, but it's scary to think that just because you're black, something like that could happen to you.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: newman on February 03, 2008, 03:53:48 AM
I am white and love 40 ounce malt liquor and gold teef...

That there's fancy stuff, boy. Liquor should come in a 5 gallon jug from the back 440 Wedge-equipped dodge.
Newman, that's not funny at all. In Texas, about 4 years ago, a black man was picked up by a group of kkk members, beaten , tied up behind their pickup truck, and dragged for 1.5 miles. Don't joke about things like that. It  may seem like sattire for you, but it's scary to think that just because you're black, something like that could happen to you.

HUH?

What part of my posts even mention anyone getting dragged, lynched, tarred & feathered or anything else??

My post is about redneck bootleggers. What the sam hill does that have to do with what you mentioned? :(
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 04:12:19 AM
I am white and love 40 ounce malt liquor and gold teef...

That there's fancy stuff, boy. Liquor should come in a 5 gallon jug from the back 440 Wedge-equipped dodge.
Newman, that's not funny at all. In Texas, about 4 years ago, a black man was picked up by a group of kkk members, beaten , tied up behind their pickup truck, and dragged for 1.5 miles. Don't joke about things like that. It  may seem like sattire for you, but it's scary to think that just because you're black, something like that could happen to you.

HUH?

What part of my posts even mention anyone getting dragged, lynched, tarred & feathered or anything else??

My post is about redneck bootleggers. What the sam hill does that have to do with what you mentioned? :(
Sorry for misreading your post. As you can see, I read the tone of your posts and take it from there.  (It's totally female of me  not to know what "Wedge equipped" means. )
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: newman on February 03, 2008, 04:19:21 AM
I am white and love 40 ounce malt liquor and gold teef...

That there's fancy stuff, boy. Liquor should come in a 5 gallon jug from the back 440 Wedge-equipped dodge.
Newman, that's not funny at all. In Texas, about 4 years ago, a black man was picked up by a group of kkk members, beaten , tied up behind their pickup truck, and dragged for 1.5 miles. Don't joke about things like that. It  may seem like sattire for you, but it's scary to think that just because you're black, something like that could happen to you.

HUH?

What part of my posts even mention anyone getting dragged, lynched, tarred & feathered or anything else??

My post is about redneck bootleggers. What the sam hill does that have to do with what you mentioned? :(
Sorry for misreading your post. As you can see, I read the tone of your posts and take it from there.  (It's totally female of me  not to know what "Wedge equipped" means. )

It refers to the conventional 'wedge' (shaped) head design of MOPAR's non-hemi V8 engines. They were a favourite of bootleggers for their power and durability. Also because in those days MOPAR had 0ver 80% of the police car market and good, cheap, used police cars (with all the hot bits) were available at auction and utilised by the 'whisky' boys down south.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: cjd on February 03, 2008, 04:56:01 AM
I am white and love 40 ounce malt liquor and gold teef...

That there's fancy stuff, boy. Liquor should come in a 5 gallon jug from the back 440 Wedge-equipped dodge.
Newman, that's not funny at all. In Texas, about 4 years ago, a black man was picked up by a group of kkk members, beaten , tied up behind their pickup truck, and dragged for 1.5 miles. Don't joke about things like that. It  may seem like sattire for you, but it's scary to think that just because you're black, something like that could happen to you.

HUH?

What part of my posts even mention anyone getting dragged, lynched, tarred & feathered or anything else??

My post is about redneck bootleggers. What the sam hill does that have to do with what you mentioned? :(
Sorry for misreading your post. As you can see, I read the tone of your posts and take it from there.  (It's totally female of me  not to know what "Wedge equipped" means. )

It refers to the conventional 'wedge' (shaped) head design of MOPAR's non-hemi V8 engines. They were a favourite of bootleggers for their power and durability. Also because in those days MOPAR had 0ver 80% of the police car market and good, cheap, used police cars (with all the hot bits) were available at auction and utilised by the 'whisky' boys down south.
Your going back some years Newman but your correct! The police departments and highway patrols loved them cars back in the 60's, 70's and very early 80's they were big and very fast. Chrysler Corporation had a special line just for police cars featuring police engines, high performance suspensions,brakes and other little things that made cars like this special. When the cars were sold at auction people like bootleggers and the hot rod folks snapped them up for the entire car or at least the engine. If the police were chasing down someone using a car like this the person they were after in most cases could not out run the police.
Title: Re: I am White and love Watermelon and Chicken
Post by: newman on February 03, 2008, 05:05:52 AM
I am white and love 40 ounce malt liquor and gold teef...

That there's fancy stuff, boy. Liquor should come in a 5 gallon jug from the back 440 Wedge-equipped dodge.
Newman, that's not funny at all. In Texas, about 4 years ago, a black man was picked up by a group of kkk members, beaten , tied up behind their pickup truck, and dragged for 1.5 miles. Don't joke about things like that. It  may seem like sattire for you, but it's scary to think that just because you're black, something like that could happen to you.

HUH?

What part of my posts even mention anyone getting dragged, lynched, tarred & feathered or anything else??

My post is about redneck bootleggers. What the sam hill does that have to do with what you mentioned? :(
Sorry for misreading your post. As you can see, I read the tone of your posts and take it from there.  (It's totally female of me  not to know what "Wedge equipped" means. )

It refers to the conventional 'wedge' (shaped) head design of MOPAR's non-hemi V8 engines. They were a favourite of bootleggers for their power and durability. Also because in those days MOPAR had 0ver 80% of the police car market and good, cheap, used police cars (with all the hot bits) were available at auction and utilised by the 'whisky' boys down south.
Your going back some years Newman but your correct! The police departments and highway patrols loved them cars back in the 60's, 70's and very early 80's they were big and very fast. Chrysler Corporation had a special line just for police cars featuring police engines, high performance suspensions,brakes and other little things that made cars like this special. When the cars were sold at auction people like bootleggers and the hot rod folks snapped them up for the entire car or at least the engine. If the police were chasing down someone using a car like this the person they were after in most cases could not out run the police.
Dodges & Plymouths tended to be slightly smaller & lighter than their Ford & GM equivalents. The 'full size' MOPAR models of '62 through '64 were actually mid size but the cops could specify the top engines like the 383 Ram, 426 Street Wedge etc.

The great thing about an ex- squad car like the 68-71 Belvedere was that it was a four door Road Runner that looked no more conspicuous than a salesman's fleet car. The perfect sleeper to run booze without drawing attention but with the ability to outrun the revenuers and county mounties!

Ahh.................they were the days! :)