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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 01, 2008, 08:07:54 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxxuSiC4wNw
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i personally like the beat of his music...
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I watched that on TV here, a friend found it. It just cracked me up :)
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I like his music. I think he is doing a good job by making promotion for Jewish religion without evil compromises. :)
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I like his music. I think he is doing a good job by making promotion for Jewish religion without evil compromises. :)
Chaim would disagree with this because he feels that matisyahu is imitating evil blacks and black music which, Chaim personally hates.
I say to that, to each his own...
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I can'nt understand him
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Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
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Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
Good question
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Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
Good question
He probably has real talent and charisma too. What a waste.
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Who are you to say what is a disgrace to Judaism? Which Posek says that his style of music is forbidden?
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Who are you to say what is a disgrace to Judaism? Which Posek says that his style of music is forbidden?
If I was a Jew I would certainly tell it in his face.
The kind of movements he makes, like a gangster-rapper,
are evil, and anti-god.
This style of music, is below the standard of civilised people.
I can only say what I think.
Regardless of what I said, I don't mean to offend your religion.
On the contrary, I don't trust Jamaican "music" , as a source for true religious people.
I am sure there is Jewish music, that is far better than this.
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Who are you to say what is a disgrace to Judaism? Which Posek says that his style of music is forbidden?
If I was a Jew I would certainly tell it in his face.
The kind of movements he makes, like a gangster-rapper,
are evil, and anti-G-d.
This style of music, is below the standard of civilised people.
I can only say what I think.
Regardless of what I said, I don't mean to offend your religion.
On the contrary, I don't trust Jamaican "music" , as a source for true religious people.
I am sure there is Jewish music, that is far better than this.
How does he do anything like a "Gangsta Rapper"? Trust me, he is a very good person - there's actually a local Rabbi whom I know very well who went to Yeshiva with him.
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Who are you to say what is a disgrace to Judaism? Which Posek says that his style of music is forbidden?
If I was a Jew I would certainly tell it in his face.
The kind of movements he makes, like a gangster-rapper,
are evil, and anti-G-d.
This style of music, is below the standard of civilised people.
I can only say what I think.
Regardless of what I said, I don't mean to offend your religion.
On the contrary, I don't trust Jamaican "music" , as a source for true religious people.
I am sure there is Jewish music, that is far better than this.
How does he do anything like a "Gangsta Rapper"? Trust me, he is a very good person - there's actually a local Rabbi whom I know very well who went to Yeshiva with him.
I trust you OdKahaneChai!
For me the way he moved his hands, is already a reason to stop watching this video.
I am sorry, I am really allergic to "modern"-urban-youth-"culture".
E.g.: I consider MTV to be a porn-chanel.
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Would this Matisyahu be half as popular if he didn't exploit shock value by fusing two incompatable elements like Chasidism and Jamaican thuggery? The first thing a person thinks when seeing Matisyahu for the first time is, "Wow, that's unusual." Would he sell as many records if he simply dressed like Joe Blow? Would Kiss have sold as many records if not for their make-up and costumes?
That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna dress up in some unusual fashion and play some kind of rock/rap music. I'll make millions and be able to save Israel. Meanwhile, Matisyahu REALLY COULD save Israel with HIS millions.
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Would this Matisyahu be half as popular if he didn't exploit shock value by fusing two incompatable elements like Chasidism and Jamaican thuggery? The first thing a person thinks when seeing Matisyahu for the first time is, "Wow, that's unusual." Would he sell as many records if he simply dressed like Joe Blow? Would Kiss have sold as many records if not for their make-up and costumes?
That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna dress up in some unusual fashion and play some kind of rock/rap music. I'll make millions and be able to save Israel. Meanwhile, Matisyahu COULD save Israel with his millions.
He is...
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Would this Matisyahu be half as popular if he didn't exploit shock value by fusing two incompatable elements like Chasidism and Jamaican thuggery? The first thing a person thinks when seeing Matisyahu for the first time is, "Wow, that's unusual." Would he sell as many records if he simply dressed like Joe Blow? Would Kiss have sold as many records if not for their make-up and costumes?
That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna dress up in some unusual fashion and play some kind of rock/rap music. I'll make millions and be able to save Israel. Meanwhile, Matisyahu COULD save Israel with his millions.
He is...
Saving Israel?
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Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
who knows? It's still ketchy...
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Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
who knows?
I know. He sells more records that way.
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Forget you! Don't tell us what we're supposed to like and not like! I like the beat of his music and dancing to it. If you dont' like, dont' listen to it!!!!
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Would this Matisyahu be half as popular if he didn't exploit shock value by fusing two incompatable elements like Chasidism and Jamaican thuggery? The first thing a person thinks when seeing Matisyahu for the first time is, "Wow, that's unusual." Would he sell as many records if he simply dressed like Joe Blow? Would Kiss have sold as many records if not for their make-up and costumes?
That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna dress up in some unusual fashion and play some kind of rock/rap music. I'll make millions and be able to save Israel. Meanwhile, Matisyahu COULD save Israel with his millions.
He is...
Saving Israel?
Sure he is!
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Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
who knows?
I know. He sells more records that way.
All the more power to him. I sense jealousy out of you.
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Agree!
Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
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Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
who knows?
I know. He sells more records that way.
All the more power to him. I sense jealousy out of you.
I'm really not jealous of him at all, but that's irrelevant, anyhow.
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Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
who knows?
I know. He sells more records that way.
All the more power to him. I sense jealousy out of you.
I'm really not jealous of him at all, but that's irrelevant, anyhow.
He's making millions with his talent which you hate..
And you...are probably struggling to make an honest living.
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Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
who knows?
I know. He sells more records that way.
All the more power to him. I sense jealousy out of you.
I'm really not jealous of him at all, but that's irrelevant, anyhow.
He's making millions with his talent which you hate..
And you...are probably struggling to make an honest living.
The second statement is correct. I am not as fortunate as you. I don't have a dental racket supplying me with piles of money.
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Why does he have to behave like a Jamaican lowlife?
who knows?
I know. He sells more records that way.
All the more power to him. I sense jealousy out of you.
I'm really not jealous of him at all, but that's irrelevant, anyhow.
He's making millions with his talent which you hate..
And you...are probably struggling to make an honest living.
The second statement is correct. I am not as fortunate as you. I don't have a dental racket supplying me with piles of money.
I don't have a dental racket supplying me with piles of money either. I've completed a 4 year college in 3 years, did 4 years of dental school and another 3 for my speciality. Study and passed my specialty boards and now I currently teach as well as practice...So yes, I make an honest living and am smart about it.
Matisyahu has a tremendous talent and, to me and many others he is quite good at it. He's not extorting money nor hurting people with his music. His style might not be to your taste or many others on this forum, but it makes him millions and hopefully he uses the money for righteous causes.
The same shoudl be with any person who is fortunate enough to have lots of money...as long as it is through honest hard work.
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You must no limit any type of music to a specific race. Our Mission from G-d is to better the world and spread the Torah, and that is what he is doing. It is the antithesis of Judaism to oppose someone who is spreading authentic Judaism.
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Matisyahu is awesome!!!!! If you don't like it, you are missing out.
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You must no limit any type of music to a specific race. Our Mission from G-d is to better the world and spread the Torah, and that is what he is doing. It is the antithesis of Judaism to oppose someone who is spreading authentic Judaism.
I can't see how some types of satanic music (Marlyn Manson e.g.) or compatible with Judaism, or Christianity.
I believe their are rules about religious music in the Temple, that exclude the use of music instruments,
but I should look it up in my music-encyclopedia, to verify.
I know that violins were forbidden to use in Rome,
Only vocals were allowed to celebrate the Mass.
Venice at the other hand had a 150-men orchestra, with violins, choir and trumpets, and drums....
The Orthodox Church does not allow organs , like the other churches do...
I believe, that religious music is to be without reference to hiphop , pop, or folk music.
true religious music, is singing a cappela, the hymns, the sacred texts.
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You must no limit any type of music to a specific race. Our Mission from G-d is to better the world and spread the Torah, and that is what he is doing. It is the antithesis of Judaism to oppose someone who is spreading authentic Judaism.
I can't see how some types of satanic music (Marlyn Manson e.g.) or compatible with Judaism, or Christianity.
I believe their are rules about religious music in the Temple, that exclude the use of music instruments,
but I should look it up in my music-encyclopedia, to verify.
I know that violins were forbidden to use in Rome,
Only vocals were allowed to celebrate the Mass.
Venice at the other hand had a 150-men orchestra, with violins, choir and trumpets, and drums....
The Orthodox Church does not allow organs , like the other churches do...
I believe, that religious music is to be without reference to hiphop , pop, or folk music.
true religious music, is singing a cappela, the hymns, the sacred texts.
to each their own...
Every church/synogogue has to have a way to express itself to elevate the soul to Gd. If one Church wants to do beebop, then so be it...don't go to that church and don't impose your views on how others shoudl worship Gd.
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The way I see it, Matisyahu is showing the world that the most inspired, devout Orthodox Jew can still live life and have fun, while staying faithful.
For an even more hip hop inspired bunch of musicians, check out Ta-Shma. Very cool music! They have videos on YouTube.
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You must no limit any type of music to a specific race. Our Mission from G-d is to better the world and spread the Torah, and that is what he is doing. It is the antithesis of Judaism to oppose someone who is spreading authentic Judaism.
I can't see how some types of satanic music (Marlyn Manson e.g.) or compatible with Judaism, or Christianity.
I believe their are rules about religious music in the Temple, that exclude the use of music instruments,
but I should look it up in my music-encyclopedia, to verify.
I know that violins were forbidden to use in Rome,
Only vocals were allowed to celebrate the Mass.
Venice at the other hand had a 150-men orchestra, with violins, choir and trumpets, and drums....
The Orthodox Church does not allow organs , like the other churches do...
I believe, that religious music is to be without reference to hiphop , pop, or folk music.
true religious music, is singing a cappela, the hymns, the sacred texts.
To begin with, it is not satanic if it is Jewish, regardless of the manner the music is expressed in. We are not in the temple; temple music doesn't apply. Insulting a genre of music does no good; It shows a paranoia about a culture that does very little harm.
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You must no limit any type of music to a specific race. Our Mission from G-d is to better the world and spread the Torah, and that is what he is doing. It is the antithesis of Judaism to oppose someone who is spreading authentic Judaism.
The Orthodox Church does not allow organs , like the other churches do...
That's not true. You mean Orthodox Christian, right?
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You must no limit any type of music to a specific race. Our Mission from G-d is to better the world and spread the Torah, and that is what he is doing. It is the antithesis of Judaism to oppose someone who is spreading authentic Judaism.
I can't see how some types of satanic music (Marlyn Manson e.g.) or compatible with Judaism, or Christianity.
I believe their are rules about religious music in the Temple, that exclude the use of music instruments,
but I should look it up in my music-encyclopedia, to verify.
I know that violins were forbidden to use in Rome,
Only vocals were allowed to celebrate the Mass.
Venice at the other hand had a 150-men orchestra, with violins, choir and trumpets, and drums....
The Orthodox Church does not allow organs , like the other churches do...
I believe, that religious music is to be without reference to hiphop , pop, or folk music.
true religious music, is singing a cappela, the hymns, the sacred texts.
To begin with, it is not satanic if it is Jewish, regardless of the manner the music is expressed in. We are not in the temple; temple music doesn't apply. Insulting a genre of music does no good; It shows a paranoia about a culture that does very little harm.
i turned it into an ask Jtf.
I wan to know exactly, what Orthodox Judaism teaches.
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You must no limit any type of music to a specific race. Our Mission from G-d is to better the world and spread the Torah, and that is what he is doing. It is the antithesis of Judaism to oppose someone who is spreading authentic Judaism.
I can't see how some types of satanic music (Marlyn Manson e.g.) or compatible with Judaism, or Christianity.
I believe their are rules about religious music in the Temple, that exclude the use of music instruments,
but I should look it up in my music-encyclopedia, to verify.
I know that violins were forbidden to use in Rome,
Only vocals were allowed to celebrate the Mass.
Venice at the other hand had a 150-men orchestra, with violins, choir and trumpets, and drums....
The Orthodox Church does not allow organs , like the other churches do...
I believe, that religious music is to be without reference to hiphop , pop, or folk music.
true religious music, is singing a cappela, the hymns, the sacred texts.
to each their own...
Every church/synogogue has to have a way to express itself to elevate the soul to Gd. If one Church wants to do beebop, then so be it...don't go to that church and don't impose your views on how others shoudl worship Gd.
I have to agree. There are many ways to become closer to G-d. They are all in the Torah. Why do the Jews sing after crossing the dead see? because they wish to show their praise to G-d.
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You must no limit any type of music to a specific race. Our Mission from G-d is to better the world and spread the Torah, and that is what he is doing. It is the antithesis of Judaism to oppose someone who is spreading authentic Judaism.
The Orthodox Church does not allow organs , like the other churches do...
That's not true. You mean Orthodox Christian, right?
Church = Christian, yes.
Or you sure?
I think it is forbidden in the Orthodox Church.
Is there any Serbian member around here to verify, please?
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You must no limit any type of music to a specific race. Our Mission from G-d is to better the world and spread the Torah, and that is what he is doing. It is the antithesis of Judaism to oppose someone who is spreading authentic Judaism.
The Orthodox Church does not allow organs , like the other churches do...
That's not true. You mean Orthodox Christian, right?
Church = Christian, yes.
Or you sure?
I think it is forbidden in the Orthodox Church.
Is there any Serbian member around here to verify, please?
Perhaps in Europe, but in America, Orthodox Christian churches use both organ and choir.
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He was featured toward the end of the last part of the PBS Jewish History program that focused on the US.
They interviewed him a little as well as showed him a little with his music. None of the lyrics he was saying seemed comprehensible.
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You must no limit any type of music to a specific race. Our Mission from G-d is to better the world and spread the Torah, and that is what he is doing. It is the antithesis of Judaism to oppose someone who is spreading authentic Judaism.
I can't see how some types of satanic music (Marlyn Manson e.g.) or compatible with Judaism, or Christianity.
I believe their are rules about religious music in the Temple, that exclude the use of music instruments,
but I should look it up in my music-encyclopedia, to verify.
I know that violins were forbidden to use in Rome,
Only vocals were allowed to celebrate the Mass.
Venice at the other hand had a 150-men orchestra, with violins, choir and trumpets, and drums....
The Orthodox Church does not allow organs , like the other churches do...
I believe, that religious music is to be without reference to hiphop , pop, or folk music.
true religious music, is singing a cappela, the hymns, the sacred texts.
To begin with, it is not satanic if it is Jewish, regardless of the manner the music is expressed in. We are not in the temple; temple music doesn't apply. Insulting a genre of music does no good; It shows a paranoia about a culture that does very little harm.
i turned it into an ask Jtf.
I wan to know exactly, what Orthodox Judaism teaches.
Go to askmoses.com
you can ask any question to a Rabbi.
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He was featured toward the end of the last part of the PBS Jewish History program that focused on the US.
They interviewed him a little as well as showed him a little with his music. None of the lyrics he was saying seemed comprehensible.
That doesnt make him a bad person. It depends where you were raised. Ive, unfortunately, been around alot of Ghetto people (not because I live their, but in Florida they are always close), and I can understand his lyrics.
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I think I asked Chaim about Matisyahu a while ago on Ask JTF but I may have changed my question that week. I know I didn't download it that week.
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I don't know enough about Matisyahu to have an opinion about him directly, but I will say that the area of music is one where I would differ with Chaim. I detest rap because it has an evil message, not because of the style. I don't personally enjoy rap (anymore), but there are Christian rap artists with a very positive message who we should support. I don't believe anybody can declare an entire style to be evil.
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I don't know enough about Matisyahu to have an opinion about him directly, but I will say that the area of music is one where I would differ with Chaim. I detest rap because it has an evil message, not because of the style. I don't personally enjoy rap (anymore), but there are Christian rap artists with a very positive message who we should support. I don't believe anybody can declare an entire style to be evil.
well because it comes from evil blacks, that style of music, chaim hates it..and hates it when good people try to imitate styles invented by evil people...
My opinion is, chill out, buddy...but chaim is chaim..I'm dr. dan.
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I don't know enough about Matisyahu to have an opinion about him directly, but I will say that the area of music is one where I would differ with Chaim. I detest rap because it has an evil message, not because of the style. I don't personally enjoy rap (anymore), but there are Christian rap artists with a very positive message who we should support. I don't believe anybody can declare an entire style to be evil.
well because it comes from evil blacks, that style of music, chaim hates it..and hates it when good people try to imitate styles invented by evil people...
My opinion is, chill out, buddy...but chaim is chaim..I'm dr. dan.
well , yeah.
it is free choice.
I agree with Chaim.
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I don't know enough about Matisyahu to have an opinion about him directly, but I will say that the area of music is one where I would differ with Chaim. I detest rap because it has an evil message, not because of the style. I don't personally enjoy rap (anymore), but there are Christian rap artists with a very positive message who we should support. I don't believe anybody can declare an entire style to be evil.
well because it comes from evil blacks, that style of music, chaim hates it..and hates it when good people try to imitate styles invented by evil people...
My opinion is, chill out, buddy...but chaim is chaim..I'm dr. dan.
well , yeah.
it is free choice.
I agree with Chaim.
Exactly, free choice
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Forget you! Don't tell us what we're supposed to like and not like! I like the beat of his music and dancing to it. If you dont' like, dont' listen to it!!!!
Agreed. I get sick of gentiles preaching to Jews, what they should do. >:(
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Forget you! Don't tell us what we're supposed to like and not like! I like the beat of his music and dancing to it. If you dont' like, dont' listen to it!!!!
Agreed. I get sick of gentiles preaching to Jews, what they should do. >:(
What about JTF-Gentiles preaching Torah-hating Jews to embrace religion again, and fight for Israel?
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Take the song "Time of Your Song" on the Album "Youth". Pump it up loud. You will fell like you're in heaven. ;)
I could listen to that song all day and not get tired of it.
Whoever doesn't give it a chance is missing something special from their life.
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Take the song "Time of Your Song" on the Album "Youth". Pump it up loud. You will fell like you're in heaven. ;)
I could listen to that song all day and not get tired of it.
Whoever doesn't give it a chance is missing something special from their life.
Matisyahu shows us Ruach...I dont' care if it sound Jamaican...it gets us to unite and dance together and love Gd together.
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Take the song "Time of Your Song" on the Album "Youth". Pump it up loud. You will fell like you're in heaven. ;)
I could listen to that song all day and not get tired of it.
Whoever doesn't give it a chance is missing something special from their life.
where do I find a songtext? Can't understand any of it except the word "shooting".
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I heard in an interview with him.. I may have some details wrong,
The reason why matityahu does his music based on this black rap thug like music, is because he had a rough childhood on drugs i think, and was involved with all the garbage.
Then lubavitch did their outreach and made him frum(religious).
He was asked by the leftist interviewer, would you consider it jewish music.. or would you consider yourself a jewish musician. He answer was "no"!!!!!!! He said he was into music before he discovered judaism.
That is incredible intellectual honesty. And also not merging foreign notions into judaism.
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Take the song "Time of Your Song" on the Album "Youth". Pump it up loud. You will fell like you're in heaven. ;)
I could listen to that song all day and not get tired of it.
Whoever doesn't give it a chance is missing something special from their life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHJu_nCaNAw :)
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I heard in an interview with him.. I may have some details wrong,
The reason why matityahu does his music based on this black rap thug like music, is because he had a rough childhood on drugs i think, and was involved with all the garbage.
Then lubavitch did their outreach and made him frum(religious).
He was asked by the leftist interviewer, would you consider it jewish music.. or would you consider yourself a jewish musician. He answer was "no"!!!!!!! He said he was into music before he discovered judaism.
That is incredible intellectual honesty. And also not merging foreign notions into judaism.
I highly respect this man for his honesty.
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Forget you! Don't tell us what we're supposed to like and not like! I like the beat of his music and dancing to it. If you dont' like, dont' listen to it!!!!
Agreed. I get sick of gentiles preaching to Jews, what they should do. >:(
What about JTF-Gentiles preaching Torah-hating Jews to embrace religion again, and fight for Israel?
theres no Torah hating Jews on this forum >:(
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Forget you! Don't tell us what we're supposed to like and not like! I like the beat of his music and dancing to it. If you dont' like, dont' listen to it!!!!
Agreed. I get sick of gentiles preaching to Jews, what they should do. >:(
What about JTF-Gentiles preaching Torah-hating Jews to embrace religion again, and fight for Israel?
theres no Torah hating Jews on this forum >:(
That is not what I said Skippy.
Dr.Dan said Gentiles should not tell Jews what to like or dislike,
I replied, that Gentiles may, if they want to, bring back atheist Jews to Judaism.
That is also telling Jews what to like or dislike, but not forbidden, but allowed.
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Forget you! Don't tell us what we're supposed to like and not like! I like the beat of his music and dancing to it. If you dont' like, dont' listen to it!!!!
Agreed. I get sick of gentiles preaching to Jews, what they should do. >:(
What about JTF-Gentiles preaching Torah-hating Jews to embrace religion again, and fight for Israel?
theres no Torah hating Jews on this forum >:(
Dr.Dan said Gentiles should not tell Jews what to like or dislike,
I totally agree with the Doc
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Forget you! Don't tell us what we're supposed to like and not like! I like the beat of his music and dancing to it. If you dont' like, dont' listen to it!!!!
Agreed. I get sick of gentiles preaching to Jews, what they should do. >:(
What about JTF-Gentiles preaching Torah-hating Jews to embrace religion again, and fight for Israel?
theres no Torah hating Jews on this forum >:(
That is not what I said Skippy.
Dr.Dan said Gentiles should not tell Jews what to like or dislike,
I replied, that Gentiles may, if they want to, bring back atheist Jews to Judaism.
That is also telling Jews what to like or dislike, but not forbidden, but allowed.
Well, let me reword it..when it comes down to theology and how to worship Gd and celebrate holidays, it is wrong for Jews to tell Gentiles how to worship and vice versa. Rather, it is better for a Jew to tell a gentile to go to someone who better understands their religion to advise them on what to do. The same goes for gentiles to a Jew..to tell him/her to go to a proper rabbi to help that Jew out.
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Dr. Dan : << when it comes down to theology and how to worship Gd and celebrate holidays, it is wrong for Jews to tell Gentiles how to worship and vice versa. Rather, it is better for a Jew to tell a gentile to go to someone who better understands their religion to advise them on what to do. The same goes for gentiles to a Jew..to tell him/her to go to a proper rabbi to help that Jew out. >>
I never had any different opinion than you about this.
I just want to know , how religion and music relate in Judaism, or other religions, than mine.
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Dr. Dan : << when it comes down to theology and how to worship Gd and celebrate holidays, it is wrong for Jews to tell Gentiles how to worship and vice versa. Rather, it is better for a Jew to tell a gentile to go to someone who better understands their religion to advise them on what to do. The same goes for gentiles to a Jew..to tell him/her to go to a proper rabbi to help that Jew out. >>
I never had any different opinion than you about this.
I just want to know , how religion and music relate in Judaism, or other religions, than mine.
Music and religion has always been linked, its a medium to get a message across.
Edited my post because now I am censored
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that has nothing to do with censorship.
I asked you to put away information, that I don't want the authorities were i live to know.
That 's respect for somebody's privacy.
I can get troubles with Justice, because JTF is considered a terrorist organization here in [my county].
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There... there's some real censorship for you. I removed these post. Be respectful to each other and do not post peoples' private information.
We are part of the JTF family and we need to be kind to each other - not hostile or angry.
Censorship is not the same thing as asking someone not to post information about them.
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I like Matisyahu.
Just by chance, I'm listening to that song "Jerusalem... if I forget you..." when this thread came up.
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There... there's some real censorship for you. I removed these post. Be respectful to each other and do not post peoples' private information.
We are part of the JTF family and we need to be kind to each other - not hostile or angry.
Censorship is not the same thing as asking someone not to post information about them.
Yes I expected you would delete posts you made that clear in your last PM to me.
Edited and deleted posts it what I have got used to.
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I watched 3 seconds of this man's music,
and really find it a disgrace for judaism.
He should be severely punished for this.
There is no excuse at all.
I hate rap. and all other kinds of african "culture".
How can anybody support this and call himself a JTF-er?
Forget you! Don't tell us what we're supposed to like and not like! I like the beat of his music and dancing to it. If you dont' like, dont' listen to it!!!!
Agreed. I get sick of gentiles preaching to Jews, what they should do. >:(
What about JTF-Gentiles preaching Torah-hating Jews to embrace religion again, and fight for Israel?
theres no Torah hating Jews on this forum >:(
That is not what I said Skippy.
Dr.Dan said Gentiles should not tell Jews what to like or dislike,
I replied, that Gentiles may, if they want to, bring back atheist Jews to Judaism.
That is also telling Jews what to like or dislike, but not forbidden, but allowed.
Gentiles need to know their place. It's not a Gentile's job to bring Jews to Torah, it's the Jews' job. Gentiles should bring other Gentiles to Torah.