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Title: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on February 13, 2008, 08:36:33 PM
                                                                                                     בס''ד

In addition to our regular web site address of "JTF.ORG", we have now reserved "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG". You can now reach our home page with these two new web site addresses. This should make it MUCH EASIER to publicize our web site.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: jdl4ever on February 13, 2008, 08:40:23 PM
That's a good idea.   O0
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Lisa on February 13, 2008, 08:46:25 PM
Can we put up a link to the blog on the main site?
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: KansasJew on February 13, 2008, 08:50:08 PM
I think those URL's should contain only Information on or about why Obama is not to be President and then use banners to refer back to JTF....just an opinion
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: cjd on February 13, 2008, 08:54:02 PM
The main site has a large readership that will spread the word. Its a good rallying point. Linking the new and old addresses was a great idea.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: cjd on February 13, 2008, 09:06:07 PM
I think it looks good and its right there for anyone that is interested in joining in to see. Great idea!
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Zvulun Ben Moshe on February 13, 2008, 09:07:21 PM
It is all good, but need at least one article about Obama, and not confuse people with Noam Federman's picture.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 13, 2008, 09:08:27 PM
What do people think about the new heading at the top of the forum?

I just made it say:

News: Welcome to The JTF Forum: The Official Forum of The Jewish Task Force and Jews Against Obama.

Help Us Defeat The Black Muslim Nazi Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama!

Visit our website: www.jtf.org or www.jewsagainstobama.org
I don't like it...
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: KansasJew on February 13, 2008, 09:10:32 PM
The Picture on the right is off center and is bleeding over the center box...Just a little tweaking sir.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 13, 2008, 09:31:06 PM
What do people think about the new heading at the top of the forum?

I just made it say:

News: Welcome to The JTF Forum: The Official Forum of The Jewish Task Force and Jews Against Obama.

Help Us Defeat The Black Muslim Nazi Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama!

Visit our website: www.jtf.org or www.jewsagainstobama.org
I don't like it...

Chaim wanted the forum to say something about Jews Against Obama. He said besides a thread. He said there should be some sort of heading at the top that says it.
I just don't like how it looks...
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Baltimore on February 13, 2008, 09:38:08 PM
Shouldn't we make a special site devoted to fighting him on those URL's? The main JTF site is a mess.



I agree 100% with Yacov on this. The links should direct people to this forum or to a special Jews Against Obama site. JTF.org is a mess and people will be turned off if they end up there.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on February 13, 2008, 09:50:56 PM
What do people think about the new heading at the top of the forum?

I just made it say:

News: Welcome to The JTF Forum: The Official Forum of The Jewish Task Force and Jews Against Obama.

Help Us Defeat The Black Muslim Nazi Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama!

Visit our website: www.jtf.org or www.jewsagainstobama.org



I will always disagree with slanders against Blacks on a Forum which is called Jewish. It doesn't matter if it is racist or not, it's enough that it gives an argument to others to accuse Jews of racism. The Jewish cause is a very serious one, not to be taken lightly. We are speaking about Jewish survival, and must be very carefull. Not good to involve the name of Jews in racism, or anything that may be viwed as racism by others. Shulchan Aruch says that Jews must not only be good, but also avoid anything that may lead others to think they are evil. Jews say in the morning prayer: "...utnenu hayom uvechol yom, lechen leChsesed uleRachamim b'Einecha ub'einei Chol Roenu...."
But I am a Gentile, if Lubab who is a Jew and a Rav, is reading please tell if my worries are justified.(privately to the admins)
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 13, 2008, 10:40:39 PM
What do people think about the new heading at the top of the forum?

I just made it say:

News: Welcome to The JTF Forum: The Official Forum of The Jewish Task Force and Jews Against Obama.

Help Us Defeat The Black Muslim Nazi Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama!

Visit our website: www.jtf.org or www.jewsagainstobama.org



I will always disagree with slanders against Blacks on a Forum which is called Jewish. It doesn't matter if it is racist or not, it's enough that it gives an argument to others to accuse Jews of racism. The Jewish cause is a very serious one, not to be taken lightly. We are speaking about Jewish survival, and must be very carefull. Not good to involve the name of Jews in racism, or anything that may be viwed as racism by others. Shulchan Aruch says that Jews must not only be good, but also avoid anything that may lead others to think they are evil. Jews say in the morning prayer: "...utnenu hayom uvechol yom, lechen leChsesed uleRachamim b'Einecha ub'einei Chol Roenu...."
But I am a Gentile, if Lubab who is a Jew and a Rav, is reading please tell if my worries are justified.(privately to the admins)

Well, I'm no Rav (not even close), but I agree with you 100%
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: RationalThought110 on February 14, 2008, 03:03:57 AM
Shouldn't we make a special site devoted to fighting him on those URL's? The main JTF site is a mess.




How about that and having a link on it to the JTF homepage and/or forum and the blog that Lisa made?
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: RationalThought110 on February 14, 2008, 03:07:55 AM


I agree 100% with Yacov on this. The links should direct people to this forum or to a special Jews Against Obama site. JTF.org is a mess and people will be turned off if they end up there.


Agreed.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: RationalThought110 on February 14, 2008, 03:40:42 AM
We should get Debbie Schlussel to promote the site on her blog. 
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: briann on February 14, 2008, 12:24:11 PM
I am in contact with Debbie form time to time.  I can bring it up.

Brian


Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 14, 2008, 10:37:51 PM
What do people think about the new heading at the top of the forum?

I just made it say:

News: Welcome to The JTF Forum: The Official Forum of The Jewish Task Force and Jews Against Obama.

Help Us Defeat The Black Muslim Nazi Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama!

Visit our website: www.jtf.org or www.jewsagainstobama.org



I think you definitely need to put a link to the blog at the very top of this page, otherwise it is just the JTF site with all its plethora of topics but nothing specific about Obama except that little artwork at the top.  We want people to be able to link directly to what subject they came for :  jewsagainstobama.org.  Should link to the blog web address instead of just the english forum.  I have another objection but I'm going to make a new topic about this.  You should NOT write anything about Black, Muslim or Nazi in this topic heading.  Let the facts speak for themselves.  Otherwise you are just providing cannon fodder for the liberals who will shout that we are just against Obama because of race or because of Islam, etc.  And people who are on the fence will be immediately turned off rather than considering all the material that exposes him in the blog.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Shlomo on February 14, 2008, 10:47:25 PM
Stay tuned. Chaim has heard your comments and is working on something.

If anyone here has HTML or PHP experience, please send me a private message.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: takebackourtemple on February 14, 2008, 10:50:48 PM
   Great idea. We also need a Jews against McCain.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Ari on February 15, 2008, 12:41:26 AM
I think this is great work so far.  Would it be possible, however, to add Jews & Christians against Obama too, to not forget our gentile friends and let the Muslim enemy know we are in this together. O0
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 15, 2008, 01:37:01 AM
Hey guys, I just joined this forum.

The site is an awesome idea!

The Black Supremacist, Anti-Semitic, Undercover Muslim, Communist, Terrorist Appeaser needs to be kept out of office. I want to take part in the effort to stop Barack Hussein Osama from ever getting the Presidency.

AMERICA AND ISRAEL AKBAR!

welcome aboard.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: RationalThought110 on February 15, 2008, 02:50:02 AM
   Great idea. We also need a Jews against McCain.


Are you confused?
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Masha on February 15, 2008, 03:54:59 AM
You should NOT write anything about Black, Muslim or Nazi in this topic heading.  Let the facts speak for themselves.  Otherwise you are just providing cannon fodder for the liberals who will shout that we are just against Obama because of race or because of Islam, etc.  And people who are on the fence will be immediately turned off rather than considering all the material that exposes him in the blog.

I will repeat my message here:

"I like the ad the way it stands. This is why: it sends a strong message that we are not a PC crowd. We want to send this message, because people out there are sick of the PC. We want to distinguish ourselves from other lame organizations and movements by saying, basically, "we call them as we see them." This is our strength, this is how we will catch the disaffected voters. Once people see that it is OK not to be PC, the shackles of self-cersorship will begin to weaken. Someone has to start being honest. While there may exist noble and righteous African Americans, the point is that there is a serious concern about the possible anti-white agenda of a black President that is completely justified, because the probability of this anti-white agenda is very high."
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: YESHA on February 20, 2008, 12:35:30 PM
•   OBAMA is a Black Muslim

•   OBAMA is an anti-semite

•   OBAMA HATES the United States

•   OBAMA hates white people

•   OBAMA hates Israel

•   OBAMA is anti-American

•   OBAMA is aligned with Black Nazi racists and supremacists, like Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton

•   OBAMA enrolled in Muslim and catholic schools – always as a Muslim!

•   OBAMA belongs to a so-called “church” as a cover-up of his true identity and alienation: Islam and the evil, cruel, barbaric and murderous Muslim world.

•   The leaders of his church make constant anti-American speeches in their sermons and are hostile to the very idea of the U.S.

•   OBAMA wants to appease Arab and Muslim despots, dictators, tyrants and terrorists and would work with the Muslims in developing conventional weapons and non-conventional ones, like nuclear, biological and chemical ones.   

•   OBAMA, as president, would rush to share and transfer sensitive nuclear secrets and materials, enabling terrorist Muslim nations to develop weapons of mass destruction and destroy the U.S. and Israel – which they promise to do, were they to be able to get hold of such weapons.

•   OBAMA will allow Iran and other Muslim and Arab countries to build and develop nuclear weapons and an arsenal of other deadly weapons, destined for non-Muslims.

•   OBAMA would pressure and non-stop put demands on Israel to commit national suicide in capitulating to the Arab terrorists by withdrawing and surrendering parts of her tiny country, Judea, Samaria, the Golan Heights and the division of Jerusalem.

•   OBAMA would want Israel to retreat to indefensible borders, those of pre-1967 green-line Israel, making it vulnerable to attack by the Arabs who are committed to destroy her and commit a Holocaust against the Jewish people.

•   OBAMA is a danger to the free world and he is lighting and deceiving potential voters and U.S. citizens just to get elected as the next president.

•   It would be insane, crazy and unthinkable to elect such as horrible and terrible man like Hussein, to such a high, responsible and powerful office.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Matthias Corvinus on February 20, 2008, 05:43:56 PM

I will always disagree with slanders against Blacks on a Forum which is called Jewish. It doesn't matter if it is racist or not, it's enough that it gives an argument to others to accuse Jews of racism. The Jewish cause is a very serious one, not to be taken lightly. We are speaking about Jewish survival, and must be very carefull. Not good to involve the name of Jews in racism, or anything that may be viwed as racism by others. Shulchan Aruch says that Jews must not only be good, but also avoid anything that may lead others to think they are evil. Jews say in the morning prayer: "...utnenu hayom uvechol yom, lechen leChsesed uleRachamim b'Einecha ub'einei Chol Roenu...."
But I am a Gentile, if Lubab who is a Jew and a Rav, is reading please tell if my worries are justified.(privately to the admins)

I agree. The use of the word "Black" to imply that Obama is unfit to be President is just as offensive as MoveOn.org's "Jew Lieberman" slur, which suggests that a Jew is unfit to serve in the Senate. The same goes for "Muslim" (as opposed to "Islamic Supremacist").

First, Obama is not any kind of Muslim, let alone an Islamic Supremacist. He is a member of a Christian church with a racist pastor. Focus on the truth (church with a racist pastor) as opposed to a falsehood (Muslim) that would not be damning even if it were true. As the person who demolished the Million Mom March and who later crippled MoveOn.org (by creating enough visibility for its hate-filled Action Forum that it had to take down the Action Forum), I know more than a little about organizational psychology and psychological warfare. Statements like "Black Muslim Nazi Presidential Candidate" are entirely self-defeating, and work only to the benefit of the enemy. Obama is neither a Muslim nor a Nazi, and his skin color is totally irrelevant to his qualifications. The problem isn't his skin color (any more than the problem with the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan is his own skin color), the problem is his association with people and organizations that have a serious problem with other people's skin colors and/or religious identities.

On the other hand, the National Jewish Democratic Council has proven itself totally incapable of defending Obama against the facts:
(1) He consorts with racists and anti-Semites like Al Sharpton
(2) He does belong to a church with a racist, America-hating, and Israel-hating pastor
(3) He did accept the endorsement of MoveOn.org, which published and promoted anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, anti-Catholic, and anti-Evangelical hate speech along with 9/11 Denial.
(4) He did help orchestrate the defeat of Illinois' Born Alive Infants Protection Act, and even the pro-choice side isn't going to defend that hill with him.

These are the things on which we must focus. We can stop this phony smile and empty suit, but we have to use psychological science and facts as opposed to misdirected name calling.
Title: Re: We are now "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.COM" and "JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA.ORG"
Post by: Shlomo on March 03, 2008, 09:26:54 PM
While McCain is a rather poor candidate, he is a g o d compared to Obama, and a Saint compared to Hillary. LOL.

mccain is no g o d. I think all of these "candidates" are worthless excrement. mccain is an evil traitor just like hillary. We do agree that obama is the worst and most evil of the three. The problem with fake conservatives is that they are dangerous because they are so deceptive. Like bush, they can get things passed that no liberal could ever get passed.