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Title: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Vito on February 14, 2008, 02:55:45 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/mccain_romney

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By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer

PROVIDENCE, R.I. - Republican campaign dropout Mitt Romney agreed Thursday to endorse Sen. John McCain for the party's presidential nomination and ask his national convention delegates to swing behind the front-runner, according to officials familiar with the decision.
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Romney collected 280 delegates during his run through the early primaries and caucuses, enough to move McCain close to the total of 1,191 needed to clinch the nomination a full nine months before the November general election.

The officials who disclosed Romney's plans did so on condition of anonymity to avoid pre-empting a formal announcement later in the day. McCain was campaigning in Vermont and Rhode Island during the day, and added a flight to Boston to appear with Romney to accept the endorsement at his waterfront campaign headquarters.

McCain effectively sealed the nomination last week when Romney withdrew from the race; only former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and libertarian-leaning Texas Rep. Ron Paul remain but both lag McCain in delegates to the GOP's nominating convention this fall.

Romney's decision marked a harmonious end to an occasionally contentious struggle between the two men over the party's presidential nomination. They criticized one another in television ads in state after state, a clash that effectively ended on Feb. 5, when McCain won a string of big-state primaries from coast to coast.

Officials said the former Massachusetts governor made his decision to back McCain earlier in the day, citing a desire to help the Arizona senator wrap up the nomination before too much more time passed and while Democrats still did not have a nominee.

McCain is on a steady march toward amassing the 1,191 delegates he needs, but Huckabee has proven an unexpectedly durable challenger. With a strong appeal to evangelical conservatives, Huckabee defeated McCain in two out of three states that chose delegates last weekend, and ran a far stronger race than expected before losing the Virginia primary on Tuesday.

McCain began the day with 843 delegates, to 242 for Huckabee.

At stake in Tuesday's Wisconsin primary are 40 GOP delegates.

The former Massachusetts governor suspended his candidacy last week after it became apparent that toppling McCain would be near impossible to gain the delegates needed to defeat McCain.

In a speech before conservative activists in Washington, D.C., Romney acknowledged the difficulty in overtaking McCain. "I must now stand aside, for our party and our country," he said at the time, adding that doing otherwise would increase the chances that Democrats would reclaim the White House.

At the time, Romney did not offer an endorsement, and McCain said he did not seek one when the two spoke by telephone.

Romney was the only one of McCain's primary opponents who had resisted lining up behind the nominee in waiting; Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson both have endorsed him.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Dr. Dan on February 14, 2008, 03:25:49 PM
no, we'll most likely be screwed if OBama is president for the next four years.

McCain too, but not as bad.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on February 14, 2008, 04:12:32 PM
Re:  "...if OBama is president for the next four years..."

There is no absolute direct parallel, but this past week revealed a "cult of personality" fixated on Obama which is in many ways reminiscent of the German peoples' in the 1920's-1930's "willingness to believe" in almost anyone who would promise to restore their pride and self image and who would claim that they "had all the answers" to their national problems.

Thus, we find a large disenchanted and disenfranchised population, from both major political parties, who now "have lost their faith" in the American system of government, who no longer are willing to believe and follow the likes of Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee, McCaine, and the Clintons, because they now know that "the machine" will continue on its path of destruction after all the traditional candidates' promises are broken and forgotten the day after the inauguration.

The hysteria we are now witnessing is indeed a phenomenon of a "mass movement psychology"...whereby a large number of people who normally would find nothing in common with each other, are now so disillusioned and desperate that they will fall at the feet of any candidate who offers them "leadership which will change direction"...their one last hope for a sense of nationhood.

Clearly this is what is being displayed all across America this past week, because whites who normally vote "anti-black" are now so desperate that they are practicing self-delusion; believing that a mixed-race candidate can "heal" the rift between the races in America.  The black electorate, is for the most part throwing their lot in behind Obama simply because he is half-black, or at the very least non-white.  The Democrats who recently ran for office on an anti-Bush platform of promising to end the Iraq war and repeal all of Bush's legislation, proved to their stalwart followers that all but a couple of the candidates were huge liars which turned and sided with 'the enemy' once in office.  That sealed Hillary's fate.  Likewise, the Republicans who worshipped Bush, now realize that they also were scammed; it would seem that the "Conservative Family Values" candidates, once in office, have been the most immoral and corrupt crowd ever seen in Washington.

Now a majority of Americans can sense the deterioration of America on all fronts domestic and foreign, and are "willing" to take a chance at a "long shot" candidate.

That one with the most jive, the best promises, and almost a blank slate for a track record is Senator Barak Hussein Obama...he of the Black Muslims who claims to be Christian and offers "peace" and "free medical care"; he who offers his hand in friendship to all dictators and terrorists bent on our destruction.

Even so, the majority of Americans must be "past the point of caring", as they so clearly reveal in this hysteria of idol-worship invented around a repulsive looking non-entity who doesn't speak in Ebonics.

I suggest all reading this keep their passports active.




Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: JTFFan on February 14, 2008, 04:15:58 PM
Yes, Obama is the worst of all the republicrat and Demoican candidates
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: kellymaureen on February 14, 2008, 04:17:55 PM
We have crap, crappier and crappiest to chose from this time....with any of the 3 we are finished, but with osama we will be MUCH worse off.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: newman on February 14, 2008, 04:23:35 PM
Whoever wins........you'll get a liberal!! >:(
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on February 14, 2008, 04:57:22 PM
Well it will be Bush #3 and all we have to do is fight remember how the Amnisty bill was defeted by the people and talk radio. I have a feeling that real right wingers will pressure McCain to the the right thing. But I feel that Hillary needs to win the Democratic nomination because she is by far easier to beat. Why more Americans like Obama is behond me.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: newman on February 14, 2008, 05:00:51 PM
The fact that no real conservatives actually wanted McPain but put him in because of the "he's our best chance of defeating......." factor may be a plus. They might vote for more hardline congressional candidates to balance things out.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Lubab on February 14, 2008, 06:01:24 PM
Now who still likes Romney better than Huckabee. :P
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on February 14, 2008, 06:28:02 PM
I was with Huckabee the whole way. Romney *Huffs* The real conservative Right... *Sarcasm*
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: cjd on February 14, 2008, 06:59:52 PM
Well it will be Bush #3 and all we have to do is fight remember how the Amnisty bill was defeted by the people and talk radio. I have a feeling that real right wingers will pressure McCain to the the right thing. But I feel that Hillary needs to win the Democratic nomination because she is by far easier to beat. Why more Americans like Obama is behond me.
After Obama or McCain get done with us we may look on the Bush's with a new point of view. I really believe that we are entering a period of decline for the United States. Bush was evil on selective issues however I never felt that he was a complete sellout. 
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: newman on February 14, 2008, 07:02:45 PM
Cjd is right. I fear we're about to see Americas complete deconstruction. Open boarders, North American Union, draconian gun laws.....................G-d help us.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on February 14, 2008, 07:16:33 PM
Huckabee is still in it.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: nessuno on February 14, 2008, 07:18:20 PM
Don't worry CJD.
Things will be just fine  :-\
At work today...
I was told...
that rumor has it...  :D
Obama is the second coming !  ;D  

I didn't want to ask the second coming of what exactly ;)
I had to just  :-X and walk away.
It is a world gone mad!
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: cjd on February 14, 2008, 07:33:15 PM
Don't worry CJD.
Things will be just fine  :-\
At work today...
I was told...
that rumor has it...  :D
Obama is the second coming !   ;D 

I didn't want to ask the second coming of what exactly ;)
I had to just  :-X and walk away.
It is a world gone mad!
Interesting! I would have had to ask. Then again depending on what sort of ignoramus was telling me something like that I may have been able to guess what they had in mind.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: newman on February 14, 2008, 07:36:50 PM
Don't worry CJD.
Things will be just fine  :-\
At work today...
I was told...
that rumor has it...  :D
Obama is the second coming !  ;D  

I didn't want to ask the second coming of what exactly ;)
I had to just  :-X and walk away.
It is a world gone mad!

Obama?

The antichrist if anything.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: nessuno on February 14, 2008, 07:54:27 PM
Don't worry CJD.
Things will be just fine  :-\
At work today...
I was told...
that rumor has it...  :D
Obama is the second coming !   ;D 

I didn't want to ask the second coming of what exactly ;)
I had to just  :-X and walk away.
It is a world gone mad!
Interesting! I would have had to ask. Then again depending on what sort of ignoramus was telling me something like that I may have been able to guess what they had in mind.
You're right CJD.
Ignoramus is a fitting description.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: firster555 on February 14, 2008, 08:17:38 PM
Don't worry CJD.
Things will be just fine  :-\
At work today...
I was told...
that rumor has it...  :D
Obama is the second coming !  ;D  

I didn't want to ask the second coming of what exactly ;)
I had to just  :-X and walk away.
It is a world gone mad!

Obama?

The antichrist if anything.


Newman, you beat me to it. If Obama gets elected I truly believe that he is the anti-Christ. Just think of all the descriptions of the anti-Christ, he will be very charismatic and well liked, he will dupe many people into following him, etc. but he will be evil, is a follower of islam anything but? He will secure a position of world leadership. At first it was just an aberration that this man was even competitive, now it is getting beyond scary.
Bullcat, the second coming of satan is what it is. We all know the first coming was back in the 7th century in the Arabian desert.
Muslims on the verge of taking the White House, the Marines being ridiculed by elected malcontents in California, millions illegally crossing our borders and DEMANDING rights, not using our own oil because of a family of Caribou and our congressional leaders are busy grilling baseball players for sticking needles in their butts.
It's a world gone mad is an understatement.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: takebackourtemple on February 14, 2008, 11:06:26 PM
   What happened to Romney asking Huckabee to drop out of the race because McCain wasn't conservative enough? I don't think any of those votes should be redirected because the voters did not vote that way, but if anything, most of the people who voted for Romney on Feb 5th did so because they did not want McCain as President. How twisted is this?
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Dr. Dan on February 14, 2008, 11:16:24 PM
Whoever wins........you'll get a liberal!! >:(

I'm afraid not...It's going to be a socialist versus a liberal.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: White Israelite on February 15, 2008, 12:10:31 AM
I hate to say "I told you so" ;)
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on February 15, 2008, 01:06:59 AM
McCain is not a socialist. And he will cut pork barrel spending. He does stink but it's not like Hilinazi
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: RationalThought110 on February 15, 2008, 02:59:45 AM


Obama?

The antichrist if anything.


Agreed. Chaimfan kept saying that to describe McCain but I said it's more like Obama. 
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: RationalThought110 on February 15, 2008, 03:03:40 AM



Newman, you beat me to it. If Obama gets elected I truly believe that he is the anti-Christ. Just think of all the descriptions of the anti-Christ, he will be very charismatic and well liked, he will dupe many people into following him, etc. but he will be evil, is a follower of islam anything but? He will secure a position of world leadership. At first it was just an aberration that this man was even competitive, now it is getting beyond scary.
Bullcat, the second coming of satan is what it is. We all know the first coming was back in the 7th century in the Arabian desert.
Muslims on the verge of taking the White House, the Marines being ridiculed by elected malcontents in California, millions illegally crossing our borders and DEMANDING rights, not using our own oil because of a family of Caribou and our congressional leaders are busy grilling baseball players for sticking needles in their butts.
It's a world gone mad is an understatement.



What do you mean by Caribou?
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: firster555 on February 16, 2008, 07:38:54 PM
Caribou(hope I am spelling it right) is an animal, sort of like a smaller moose. One of the main reasons the liberals use for arguing against drilling in ANWR is because it would upset these animals that reside there.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 16, 2008, 08:33:28 PM
Now who still likes Romney better than Huckabee. :P
I do and most people do, Huckabee is a piece of crap, Romney did what everyone else should do and that's get behind McCain because we need him to beat Obama.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 16, 2008, 08:36:14 PM
Huckabee is still in it.
Huckabee is still in it and there was Snow white and the seven dwarfs, since you like fairy tales I though I would tell one.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Lubab on February 16, 2008, 09:54:15 PM
Huckabee is still in it.
Huckabee is still in it and there was Snow white and the seven dwarfs, since you like fairy tales I though I would tell one.

The odds of McCain getting a heart attack in the near future are no fairly tale. They are pretty good odd for a man of his age and health.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 17, 2008, 08:20:24 AM
Huckabee is still in it.
Huckabee is still in it and there was Snow white and the seven dwarfs, since you like fairy tales I though I would tell one.

The odds of McCain getting a heart attack in the near future are no fairly tale. They are pretty good odd for a man of his age and health.
You must be very young because someone in their seventies is not considered old any more and the life expectancy of a man is now around 82 years old so it looks like that's not going to happen.
Also because of his age he will probably be a one term President if he's elected so it is very important that he picks someone good as Vice President.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: White Israelite on February 17, 2008, 02:47:47 PM
I still think we should back Huckabee.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 17, 2008, 03:43:51 PM
I still think we should back Huckabee.
You must be retarded so I will say it slowwwwwwwwwwly.  Huck aaaa beee is oooooooooout offffff the picture it's ooooover for him.   McCain has the nommmmmination.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: takebackourtemple on February 17, 2008, 06:18:36 PM
I still think we should back Huckabee.
You must be retarded so I will say it slowwwwwwwwwwly.  Huck aaaa beee is oooooooooout offffff the picture it's ooooover for him.   McCain has the nommmmmination.

Supporting McCain is retarded. Even if he is the only one who can beat Osama(which he is not).
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 17, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
I still think we should back Huckabee.
You must be retarded so I will say it slowwwwwwwwwwly.  Huck aaaa beee is oooooooooout offffff the picture it's ooooover for him.   McCain has the nommmmmination.

Supporting McCain is retarded. Even if he is the only one who can beat Osama(which he is not).
So let me get this straight what you are saying is you want Obama to be President.
With that response it shows you are a true liberal and should resign your post on this forum and not come back on.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: takebackourtemple on February 17, 2008, 08:46:12 PM
   Hold off on the personal attacks. We need to work together. I do not want Osama to win but do not want McCain or Hitlery to win either.

   What I'm saying is that getting our message heard is more important than the outcome of this election. We are in a war with evil and this is a battle that we cannot win unless hashem votes. I don't want any of the three to win, but if it is a loss we have to face in order to win the war, this is something we must be willing to accept. We need to position ourselves for a 2012 victory now that we have probably lost this battle.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 17, 2008, 10:15:05 PM
   Hold off on the personal attacks. We need to work together. I do not want Osama to win but do not want McCain or Hitlery to win either.

   What I'm saying is that getting our message heard is more important than the outcome of this election. We are in a war with evil and this is a battle that we cannot win unless hashem votes. I don't want any of the three to win, but if it is a loss we have to face in order to win the war, this is something we must be willing to accept. We need to position ourselves for a 2012 victory now that we have probably lost this battle.
You don't want anyone to win so I think it would be best if you just stop posting on the election threads because all you are doing it giving Obama the Presidency and me and about 99% of the people on JTF and the forum including Chaim does not want Obama to win, you are right we have to think about a 2012 victory and that victory is tied to McCain because he will have to pick a conservative as Vice President which will open the door for that person in 2012.  If Obama wins he will be a two term President which will take us into 2016.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: EagleEye on February 18, 2008, 07:11:27 PM
Romney made the right decision for his future political career, and Huckabee has no chance.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: takebackourtemple on February 24, 2008, 09:20:27 AM
   Romney's decision was a betrayal of conservative beliefs. It would be one thing if he just endorsed McCain after realizing defeat, asking his delegates to vote for McCain however is a sign that he betrayed the people who voted for him since many of them voted for him just so he could defeat McCain.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: cjd on February 24, 2008, 10:00:49 AM
   Romney's decision was a betrayal of conservative beliefs. It would be one thing if he just endorsed McCain after realizing defeat, asking his delegates to vote for McCain however is a sign that he betrayed the people who voted for him since many of them voted for him just so he could defeat McCain.
I don't think thats the case about Romney at all. I think that Romney is just doing the most practical thing for the Republican party and the country. Lets face it as much as we don't care for McCain he ends up being the front runner. More and more it looks like Obama will be representing the Democrats in November. I think Romney is just trying to unify the party so they can get organized for the presidential run. As bad as we think McCain might be he is ace's compared to Obama.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: takebackourtemple on February 24, 2008, 06:20:18 PM
   In the last election, we were forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. Now we are faced with two candidates that are even worse. If we let this pattern continue, are next pair of choices will be even worse. We need to start thinking about how we can start an impeachment of recall election for the next president.
   Romney did betray his voters by asking his delegates to vote for McCain. At least Huckabee has the courage to stand his ground. If Huckabee continues as an independent candidate I hope we can support him.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: cjd on February 24, 2008, 06:36:45 PM
   In the last election, we were forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. Now we are faced with two candidates that are even worse. If we let this pattern continue, are next pair of choices will be even worse. We need to start thinking about how we can start an impeachment of recall election for the next president.
   Romney did betray his voters by asking his delegates to vote for McCain. At least Huckabee has the courage to stand his ground. If Huckabee continues as an independent candidate I hope we can support him.
I wish I could agree with you about Huck but in my eyes he sold his soul when he and McCain teamed up against Romney in one of the primaries. Old Huck had his eye on a vice presidency. McCain was just using every tool at his disposal to get rid of Romney and the Huckster was one of the disposable ones. The Only ground Huckster is standing is the hopes and prospects of future elections. I was in Huckabee's corner until he pulled that dumb move however with that really showed his true colors.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 24, 2008, 10:22:04 PM
   Romney's decision was a betrayal of conservative beliefs. It would be one thing if he just endorsed McCain after realizing defeat, asking his delegates to vote for McCain however is a sign that he betrayed the people who voted for him since many of them voted for him just so he could defeat McCain.
Romney did the greatest thing by asking his delegates to vote for McCain or would you rather he be an idiot like Huckabee by helping Obama win the general election.  All of us and Romney realizes it too, it's either McCain or that animal Muslim Obama.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 24, 2008, 10:23:50 PM
   Romney's decision was a betrayal of conservative beliefs. It would be one thing if he just endorsed McCain after realizing defeat, asking his delegates to vote for McCain however is a sign that he betrayed the people who voted for him since many of them voted for him just so he could defeat McCain.
I don't think thats the case about Romney at all. I think that Romney is just doing the most practical thing for the Republican party and the country. Lets face it as much as we don't care for McCain he ends up being the front runner. More and more it looks like Obama will be representing the Democrats in November. I think Romney is just trying to unify the party so they can get organized for the presidential run. As bad as we think McCain might be he is ace's compared to Obama.
You are 100% right, except you still have idiots on here that are stuck on that loser Huckabee.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 24, 2008, 10:27:43 PM
   In the last election, we were forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. Now we are faced with two candidates that are even worse. If we let this pattern continue, are next pair of choices will be even worse. We need to start thinking about how we can start an impeachment of recall election for the next president.
   Romney did betray his voters by asking his delegates to vote for McCain. At least Huckabee has the courage to stand his ground. If Huckabee continues as an independent candidate I hope we can support him.
We should not support Huckabee as an independent candidate because he will lose and take enough votes from McCain to hand the presidency to Obama.
Title: Re: We're finished.. Romney now endorsing McCain
Post by: EagleEye on February 25, 2008, 01:09:37 AM
Sometimes you cannot go for 100% of the cake.  I wanted Romney.  The JTF higherups wanted Huckabee.  We are both going to have to accept McCain.