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Title: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: SavetheWest on February 26, 2008, 05:01:25 PM
Do you find there's been a rise in anti-Semitism in the US, Canada or Australia?

I know the rest of the world has usually been bad but what about historically friendly nations towards the Jewish people?

Is it some people or the majority? :-\
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Dr. Dan on February 26, 2008, 05:03:48 PM
Do you find there's been a rise in anti-Semitism in the US, Canada or Australia?

I know the rest of the world has usually been bad but what about historically friendly nations towards the Jewish people?

Is it some people or the majority? :-\

There has been a rise of anti-Zionism (which is anti-semitism) and a lot of people have turned the other cheek and made false claims of these Muslim Arabs legitimate...So, to me things have gotten worse. AT one point when someone spoke of the Pal's right to have a country, that person was to me an anti-Semite...but not it is in the mainstream including with our leaders.
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Electra on February 26, 2008, 05:40:48 PM
I find it is raising in the UK. Although to be frank, I don't recall it ever being low to begin with.
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Paladin on February 26, 2008, 05:46:59 PM
In my experience the only anti-Semitism comes from towel-heads and lefties and there are just as many Jewish lefties as Western European lefties.

'Know thy enemy...his name is Muhommad not John'
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on February 26, 2008, 05:55:19 PM
Anti-semitism is all over the world.  Sometimes it eases up, but it's still under the surface.
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 26, 2008, 06:11:49 PM
In Australia my state the answer is yes, with the increase of WN and Muslim activies have increased the need to Australian Jews to be more careful.

Even to the point Jewish schools received apart of a 20 million dollar packet to increase security at their schools.

The city were I live, is normal non muslims and non WN's that are anti Semites, due to media releases bashing the Jewish people.

There is little to be done to stop its effects in my area. But thats why I am working with another few groups to help and combat this.

Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Ari on February 26, 2008, 08:43:09 PM
Let's face it.  The Jews have always been, and always will be, the most hated people in the history of humanity.  Why?  The reasons are countless, and all of them are false lies or exaggerations.  One good thing though, you can hate us, but you can't destroy us. O0 We will always control the world. :::D
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: EagleEye on February 26, 2008, 11:31:23 PM
No.  Assimilation is a greater threat than hatred of Jews.  There isn't much antisemitism anymore.
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on February 26, 2008, 11:49:09 PM
When the evonomy gets bad anti-semitism goes up
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: SavetheWest on February 26, 2008, 11:54:09 PM
In Australia my state the answer is yes, with the increase of WN and Muslim activies have increased the need to Australian Jews to be more careful.

Even to the point Jewish schools received apart of a 20 million dollar packet to increase security at their schools.

The city were I live, is normal non muslims and non WN's that are anti Semites, due to media releases bashing the Jewish people.

There is little to be done to stop its effects in my area. But thats why I am working with another few groups to help and combat this.



I wonder how much the Muslims influence the anti-Semitism among other groups?  A good litmus test for anti-Semites are if they ask someone, "are you Jewish?", or "are you a Jew?"  The second one always seems to be how anti-Semites ask the question.
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 27, 2008, 12:00:20 AM
In Australia my state the answer is yes, with the increase of WN and Muslim activies have increased the need to Australian Jews to be more careful.

Even to the point Jewish schools received apart of a 20 million dollar packet to increase security at their schools.

The city were I live, is normal non muslims and non WN's that are anti Semites, due to media releases bashing the Jewish people.

There is little to be done to stop its effects in my area. But thats why I am working with another few groups to help and combat this.



I wonder how much the Muslims influence the anti-Semitism among other groups?  A good litmus test for anti-Semites are if they ask someone, "are you Jewish?", or "are you a Jew?"  The second one always seems to be how anti-Semites ask the question.

Its not how that is done here.
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: briann on February 27, 2008, 12:44:04 AM
In America, its about the same. no more, no less.  But Europe it has skyrocketed at the hands of Muslims.

Brian

Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: eb22 on February 27, 2008, 12:57:19 AM
In America, its about the same. no more, no less.  But Europe it has skyrocketed at the hands of Muslims.

Brian




  This is one of many reasons why the U.S. must secure the borders and get rid of all the illegal aliens.     
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Daniel Ben Hanania on February 27, 2008, 01:04:55 AM
In my experience the only anti-Semitism comes from towel-heads and lefties and there are just as many Jewish lefties as Western European lefties.

'Know thy enemy...his name is Muhommad not John'

LOL :) I think taht should be a slogan  O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Rubystars on February 27, 2008, 01:06:52 AM
When the conditions in this country (as a result of liberalism and globalism) turn rotten, then I fear that all Jews, both innocent and not, will bear the brunt of the blame for it, even though many wicked Gentiles have been involved in those things as well.

It's sad that things work out that way so often. Hopefully organizations like JTF will show some people that there are Jews who are actually against globalism and liberalism and that will probably help diffuse some of it.
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: EagleEye on March 01, 2008, 08:10:42 PM
JTF is refreshing.  For whatever differences I have with it, it is a good example of right wing real Jews.  I know some other examples, but they either converted to Christianity (Auster) or do not support a right-wing agenda outside of race (Micheal Levin, only right-wing on race).
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Boeregeneraal on March 01, 2008, 09:33:54 PM
I believe we might start seeing an increase in anti-jewish feeling among whites whom are right-winged. The reason is, more whites are starting to realise what nonsense liberalism has caused them, and it's going to get worse, and whites will start waking up. The problem is, when they look at the heads of the people whom are creating liberal policies etc, they tend to see a lot of Jews there, and as such, they will believe that the jews are trying to destroy them, and so, become opposed to Jews.

This is a sad thing, because hese pople are potential allies, they know what liberals have done, and become right-wing, just that those self-hating 'jews' is really buggering up the situation.
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: JTFFan on March 01, 2008, 09:38:16 PM
I believe we might start seeing an increase in anti-jewish feeling among whites whom are right-winged. The reason is, more whites are starting to realise what nonsense liberalism has caused them, and it's going to get worse, and whites will start waking up. The problem is, when they look at the heads of the people whom are creating liberal policies etc, they tend to see a lot of Jews there, and as such, they will believe that the jews are trying to destroy them, and so, become opposed to Jews.

This is a sad thing, because hese pople are potential allies, they know what liberals have done, and become right-wing, just that those self-hating 'jews' is really buggering up the situation.

Agreed
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on March 01, 2008, 09:58:20 PM
I feel there has been. And it is mostly in part to the Liberals that want to appease the terrorists rather than deal with them in a way that might hurt the feelings of those who need to be rained in immediately
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on March 01, 2008, 10:45:54 PM
Today we are witnessing world-wide the greatest level of Jew-Hatred since the rise of the Third Reich.

I actually believe it is at a greater level than it was in the 1930's.
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: SavetheWest on March 02, 2008, 01:11:27 PM
Today we are witnessing world-wide the greatest level of Jew-Hatred since the rise of the Third Reich.

I actually believe it is at a greater level than it was in the 1930's.

I really hope that's not the case.  I'm seeing a lot of anti-Semites who have no exposure to Jewish people.  American Indians, Filipinos, Japanese etc.  Most Filipinos though, are not anti-Semites. I think they're picking it up from Hollywood.  You can see movies, directed and acted in by Jews, where they make fun of themselves.  What these Jewish directors don't realize is that there are millions of haters out there who eat up any attempt to make fun of Jews.  Examples would be "Old School." or "Knocked Up." Actors think people are laughing with them when many are laughing at them. 
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Ambiorix on March 02, 2008, 01:28:46 PM
Today we are witnessing world-wide the greatest level of Jew-Hatred since the rise of the Third Reich.

I actually believe it is at a greater level than it was in the 1930's.
I think the whites that see that Europe, Russia, the ex-soviet satelites are being eaten up by the EU, and that the EU is forcing quota of non-white immigrants on these member states , is going to provoke anti-semitism, because Jews/Israel/"ZOG"USA will be blamed of being the masterminds behind this.

In the US, anti-semitism is on the rise. "ZOG" "Ron Paul" "Stürmfront" , black anti-semitism "Obama"
in the Middle East, it is rising too. "Israel-vs P@lestine" "Wahabism"
The immigrants in Europe are radicalising too.

At the other hand, the liberal Jews, are playing with fire, when they collaborate with socialists, arabs, blacks, one-world-government.

Conclusion:

JTF/Kahanism is the best answer to a lot of these problems.
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Ultra Requete on March 02, 2008, 01:33:28 PM
It's difficult question; there's traditional christian and nazi antisemitism, muslime antisemtism, leftist "antizionism"; and also self hating mostly secular and leftists Jewish person trying to kill not only themslefs but all Jews. The problem is altough they're minority in their organisations they're most visible ones; Rabbi Kachane was writing that all Jews will be persecuted in America thanks to civil rights activism and economic crisis. Are you Jewish is question about your decent/ethnicity Are a Jew is about your religion you can be one without the other.  
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Ultra Requete on March 02, 2008, 01:46:59 PM
Today we are witnessing world-wide the greatest level of Jew-Hatred since the rise of the Third Reich.

I actually believe it is at a greater level than it was in the 1930's.
I think the whites that see that Europe, Russia, the ex-soviet satelites are being eaten up by the EU, and that the EU is forcing quota of non-white immigrants on these member states , is going to provoke anti-semitism, because Jews/Israel/"ZOG"USA will be blamed of being the masterminds behind this.

In the US, anti-semitism is on the rise. "ZOG" "Ron Paul" "Stürmfront" , black anti-semitism "Obama"
in the Middle East, it is rising too. "Israel-vs P@lestine" "Wahabism"
The immigrants in Europe are radicalising too.

At the other hand, the liberal Jews, are playing with fire, when they collaborate with socialists, arabs, blacks, one-world-government.

Conclusion:

JTF/Kahanism is the best answer to a lot of these problems.

All those problems are foult of XVIII century asssimilation pushed by free masons. They're lot of people unsure about their Jewish identity, and beliving in pseudo meshianic ideas like comunism or multicultism. G-d don't want the Jews to loose their uniqness that's why the nazism was born in Germany, the country in which its Jewish citisens were greater german patriots than zionists. You have point that antisemitism is universal; US is now the "Jewish paradise" but in past other countries like Persia or Poland were. thats why all or mayority of Jews shud live in its own state called Israel, free both of presecution and to live acording to Torah.   
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: SavetheWest on March 02, 2008, 02:14:47 PM
It's difficult question; there's traditional christian and nazi antisemitism, muslime antisemtism, leftist "antizionism"; and also self hating mostly secular and leftists Jewish person trying to kill not only themslefs but all Jews. The problem is altough they're minority in their organisations they're most visible ones; Rabbi Kachane was writing that all Jews will be persecuted in America thanks to civil rights activism and economic crisis. Are you Jewish is question about your decent/ethnicity Are a Jew is about your religion you can be one without the other.  

Thanks for the clarification.  I think the, "Are you Jewish/a Jew" questions depends on who's asking it too. People's tone makes all the difference. 

Most Americans would protect and support the Jewish people but the combination of the Fr. Coughlin/Henry Ford types and the new waves of immigration are a potential hazard.  Both the National Alliance types and the Muslims would love to kill the Jews and then stab each other in the back later.  Some of the Hispanic invasion is not good given the history of South America inviting Nazis after WW2.  If America becomes more obsessed with the worst parts of black America and invites the rest of the Third World, this country will not be able to keep its first nation status.  Everyone's debating CAFTA and NAFTA but if the country becomes more obsessed with hip hop, the E channel and partying on Spring Break, it cannot survive no matter what policies are put in place.  Jews could be scapegoated by a stupid society and the greed culture that's being encouraged now with everyone wanting to be Donald Trump. Jews and Asians have already faced discrimination in colleges where there are "too many of them." The working class in America is being sold that there's a quick fix to their problems and when they see it's not true they (and the politicians) could turn to the Jews. They might demand property or worse.  It's a scary thought.   
Title: Re: A question for everyone on this forum
Post by: Daniel on March 02, 2008, 05:12:07 PM
I don't know that there has been a "rise" in antisemitism. Antisemitism has been around as long as Judaism. I think it's possible that with the advent and use of the internet, the expression and reception of antisemitism has increased a great deal.