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Title: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 21, 2008, 01:24:23 AM
Yes, Happy Purim to my fellow Jews, and a Happy Easter to all our great Gentile members. O0

Ari, who has given you authority to rule that all Gentiles in the forum celebrate Easter?????????????????
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Jasmina on March 21, 2008, 01:31:07 AM
 ::)...to all Catholic Gentiles maybe... ::) Orthodox Christians celebrate Easter on 27th April...
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Ari on March 21, 2008, 01:54:29 AM
Yes, Happy Purim to my fellow Jews, and a Happy Easter to all our great Gentile members. O0

Ari, who has given you authority to rule that all Gentiles in the forum celebrate Easter?????????????????

Geez, take it easy.  Happy Kwanzaa. :::D  Also I'm assuming we're not big with the Muslim demographic. 
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 21, 2008, 02:09:34 AM
Yes, Happy Purim to my fellow Jews, and a Happy Easter to all our great Gentile members. O0

Ari, who has given you authority to rule that all Gentiles in the forum celebrate Easter?????????????????

Geez, take it easy.  Happy Kwanzaa. :::D  Also I'm assuming we're not big with the Muslim demographic. 

Not Muslims, there are many Noahides here......and Easter is only for Christians.......
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Rubystars on March 21, 2008, 02:14:30 AM
Ari thanks for wishing those of us who do like Easter a Happy Easter :)
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: MasterWolf1 on March 22, 2008, 10:51:52 PM
Thank you Ari
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2008, 10:53:02 PM
Happy Easter!
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Scriabin on March 22, 2008, 10:55:22 PM
Yes, Happy Purim to my fellow Jews, and a Happy Easter to all our great Gentile members. O0

Ari, who has given you authority to rule that all Gentiles in the forum celebrate Easter?????????????????

Ari meant nothing by that, you twerp.
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 22, 2008, 10:57:49 PM
Happy easter to all of those people who celebrate it this sunday (happy Ashish?)...it was a minor oversite..ane please notify us when you have a holiday coming up so that we can wish you a happy something too..
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: MasterWolf1 on March 22, 2008, 10:59:30 PM
Yes, Happy Purim to my fellow Jews, and a Happy Easter to all our great Gentile members. O0

Ari, who has given you authority to rule that all Gentiles in the forum celebrate Easter?????????????????

Ari meant nothing by that, you twerp.

Agreed that guy should lighten up a bit.
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Scriabin on March 22, 2008, 11:00:05 PM
What do Noahides celebrate?
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: nessuno on March 22, 2008, 11:09:41 PM
Yes, Happy Purim to my fellow Jews, and a Happy Easter to all our great Gentile members. O0

Ari, who has given you authority to rule that all Gentiles in the forum celebrate Easter?????????????????

Ari meant nothing by that, you twerp.
Right.
He was directing that to the forum members who will be celebrating Easter Sunday tomorrow.  
I don't think he meant it as a slight to the members who won't.
MasterWolf is right when he said Agreed that guy should lighten up a bit.
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Jasmina on March 22, 2008, 11:16:45 PM
::)...to all Catholic Gentiles maybe... ::) Orthodox Christians celebrate Easter on 27th April...


For us that's the last day of Passover.



  What is that? Sorry I'm not familiar with nomenclature!
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Scriabin on March 22, 2008, 11:17:32 PM
What do Noahides celebrate?

Sukkot.

Can we do that in a Synagogue?
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: FULL METAL JACKET on March 22, 2008, 11:26:43 PM
Yes, Happy Purim to my fellow Jews, and a Happy Easter to all our great Gentile members. O0

Ari, who has given you authority to rule that all Gentiles in the forum celebrate Easter?????????????????
Relax......
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Rubystars on March 22, 2008, 11:37:16 PM
Sukkot.

In The Next World, all Righteous Gentiles will make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and bring offerings to The Temple every Sukkot. It's the one Jewish holiday that is also for Gentiles.

Hopefully there would be some super fast form of transportation available.
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 22, 2008, 11:43:48 PM
What do Noahides celebrate?

Sukkot.

Can we do that in a Synagogue?

Synagogues are independent, not centralized in a higher authority for all. It depends in what synagogue. Some admit everyone, others only Jews, and others may only admit Jews who are members of that synagogue. Hallachically a Noahide can pray in a Synagogue, omitting those prayers in which Jews state that they are Jewish (since it would be a blessing recited in vain). They cannot be counted in the mynian or read the Torah either. Some Noahides have their own Temples where they pray and study the Torah relevant to them.
Noahides can commemorate all Jewish Feasts as far as they do not rest in the same way as the Jews, since Parashat Noah says that the Covenant with G-d includes the promise that, untill the end of the world, life and work shall not cease on Earth.
However, a Noahide who keeps the Seven Laws is ok, even if he does not commemorate any Feast. They will observe Sukkot when Redemption comes (with a pilgrimage), now it is just voluntary to remember it. Many Noahides try to take their holidays at that time (Just omiiting RITUAL REST).
As for Yom Kippur, a Noahide must not rest or fast, but he may repent from his sins. Other fasts like Tisha Be'Av are not binding on a Noahide, but he is allowed to join the Jews in solidarity with their mourning (don't know if the whole fast is allowed)
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: FULL METAL JACKET on March 23, 2008, 12:18:05 AM
Raul,

Are you a Noahide that is going to convert soon?
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 23, 2008, 12:23:43 AM
Raul,

Are you a Noahide that is going to convert soon?

No, I am not converting.
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: FULL METAL JACKET on March 23, 2008, 12:27:28 AM
Raul,

Are you a Noahide that is going to convert soon?

No, I am not converting.
Can I ask why
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 23, 2008, 12:39:22 AM
Raul,

Are you a Noahide that is going to convert soon?

No, I am not converting.
Can I ask why

Yes..... all Gentiles are Noahides, and according to the Torah should keep the Seven Laws. Torah does not say that Gentiles must convert. They just are allowed to do so if they wish.... and if they are sure to keep the 613 Jewish commandments!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: FULL METAL JACKET on March 23, 2008, 12:48:11 AM
Raul,

Are you a Noahide that is going to convert soon?

No, I am not converting.
Can I ask why

Yes..... all Gentiles are Noahides, and according to the Torah should keep the Seven Laws. Torah does not say that Gentiles must convert. They just are allowed to do so if they wish.... and if they are sure to keep the 613 Jewish commandments!!!!!!!!!
Interesting. I'm not really part of any religion but I've been using the Torah for guidance. I've been doing this for a couple of years now. I don't know if I can make the commitment to be a Jew, who knows, definitely not now though.
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: Ari on March 23, 2008, 02:44:26 AM
Thanks for the support fellow JTFers, and RaulMario I forgive you too. :::D
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: HiWarp on March 23, 2008, 07:46:17 AM
::)...to all Catholic Gentiles maybe... ::) Orthodox Christians celebrate Easter on 27th April...


For us that's the last day of Passover.



Precisely.  Which is why Orthodox Christians celebrate Easter when they do.  AFTER Passover.
Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: HiWarp on March 23, 2008, 01:55:54 PM
::)...to all Catholic Gentiles maybe... ::) Orthodox Christians celebrate Easter on 27th April...


For us that's the last day of Passover.



Precisely.  Which is why Orthodox Christians celebrate Easter when they do.  AFTER Passover.


That's not why. It's because they determine the start of Spring according to The Julian Calendar, which is April 3.

Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the first full moon of the vernal equinox.  But never before Passover.

Title: Re: Happy Easter To Non-Orthodox Christians
Post by: HiWarp on March 23, 2008, 02:06:29 PM
::)...to all Catholic Gentiles maybe... ::) Orthodox Christians celebrate Easter on 27th April...


For us that's the last day of Passover.



Precisely.  Which is why Orthodox Christians celebrate Easter when they do.  AFTER Passover.


That's not why. It's because they determine the start of Spring according to The Julian Calendar, which is around April 3.



Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the first full moon of the vernal equinox.  But never before Passover.


But Non-Orthodox Easter can fall before Passover in a Jewish leap year. If you would have said "But never before Passover (or in a Jewish leap year Purim), then you would be correct.



Yeah, it's a bit more complicated than it should be I guess.  It has to do with Gregorian vs Julian calendar, verbal equinox, Jewish Passover and Paschal cycles.  I do not remember it being before Passover on a Jewish leap year.  I'll have to look into that.  It's a bit confusing at times.