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Title: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 25, 2008, 12:10:32 PM
 :::D
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on March 25, 2008, 12:16:39 PM
1, 3, and 4.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 25, 2008, 12:18:57 PM
1, 3, and 4.

you don't like chabad?
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Ari on March 25, 2008, 12:24:39 PM
The Beastie Boys. :D
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on March 25, 2008, 12:25:41 PM
I gots to go wit ma homies in Chabad...  ;)
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: mord on March 25, 2008, 12:31:59 PM
Natura Karta :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on March 25, 2008, 12:31:59 PM
1, 3, and 4.

you don't like chabad?

You asked for favorite, those 3 are my favorite. (sometimes some are integrated in all 3).
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: IslamIsCancer on March 25, 2008, 01:56:10 PM
JTF Jews, they seem to be the best of all Jews I have seen so far.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: MasterWolf1 on March 25, 2008, 02:00:15 PM
JTF Jews
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 25, 2008, 09:56:15 PM
Reconstructed
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on March 25, 2008, 10:27:03 PM
Reconstructed
Why does Judaism need to be reconstructed if it was never deconstructed?
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: jdl4ever on March 25, 2008, 10:31:05 PM
I picked: Depends on Who's Righteous.  I only mean religious groups though. 
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: jdl4ever on March 25, 2008, 10:40:57 PM
I don't think G-d cares about what religious group you belong to; as long as you follow the Torah and are righteous then you are good. 
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: MasterWolf1 on March 25, 2008, 11:07:50 PM
Isn't Natura Karta that group that kissed the rear of Ahmadinajad in Teherran and when that Iranian pig fart came here they also kissed his rear here?  Frig them then.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: DownwithIslam on March 25, 2008, 11:09:36 PM
I choose Chabad. They certainly have done more to help jews than any other group. I happen to like sefardim alot as well. I basically only dislike jews who behave like kappos.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 25, 2008, 11:14:50 PM
Oh Neturei Karta, for sure, Dr. Dan...  ::) ;D
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 25, 2008, 11:37:55 PM
I picked "All choices except for 7-10 or 6-10 or 8-10 or 9-10 or 5-10 or 4-10" because that discludes all the evil groups. Everything below Conservadox is evil. I think Conservadox itself is a made up term that doesn't mean anything. I think he should have put Traditional instead. If someone is Traditional, they believe in Orthodoxy but just might not be fully observant. From their Orthodox beliefs, it qualifies them to be non-fully observant Orthodox so why put Conservative in the adjective describing them since Conservative is a heretical movement?

I like the first 5 choices all the same.



you can adjust the poll as needed because i wasn't sure if were excluding any groups or putting in teh wrong terms

As for me, I chose chabad..but in reality i love all righteous jews irregardless of the group they belong to.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Mishmaat on March 25, 2008, 11:52:50 PM
Mizrachi/Sefaradim ;)
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dan on March 26, 2008, 12:05:28 AM
I'm not to familiar with all these groups mentioned but I like ALL Jews that are Righteous and follow the Torah!
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dominater96 on March 26, 2008, 12:11:57 AM
I am a pretty big Mitnaged, and not a big fan of Chabad. I like Sefaradim religously right wing modern orthodox kippah sruga wearing Jew, which would be my favorite. I am not such a fan of the leftist MO.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dominater96 on March 26, 2008, 12:18:26 AM
Yes, I love every single Jew even the sinner. I was just saying who I like "the best" because of political, religious, or philosophical views. If I recall correctly somwhere in Hilchot Talmud Torah (towards the end), the Rambam says to love the Sinner, but hate his sins and actions.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: MasterWolf1 on March 26, 2008, 12:49:20 AM
Does it say to hate those that are evil enough to cause harm to their own people?  I am not familiar with the Talmud so help a gentile out lol
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Ulli on March 26, 2008, 03:04:21 AM
I like the most the Jews in JTF  O0
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Ultra Requete on March 26, 2008, 11:07:54 AM
The religius Zionists; they confront the PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis in front line of Yesha. O0
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Rubystars on March 26, 2008, 11:12:03 AM
I put whoever is righteous. :) Of course that's the same for people of all religions (except Islam and a few others of course who have NO righteous members)
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on March 26, 2008, 12:18:43 PM
Groucho, Chico, Harpo, & Zeppo!
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Ari on March 26, 2008, 02:23:48 PM
JTF Jews

Yes, of course. O0
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on March 26, 2008, 02:30:15 PM
Orthodox Jews. I don't like lables Chabad tends to push their traditions on people to that attend their events so I just perfer religous Jews. 
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: horselady on March 26, 2008, 04:25:11 PM

I am a bad Jew. I grew up in a secular Jewish family whom I dubbed twice a year Jews.
I was also apolitical for most of my life prior to 9/11. The first time I felt tremendous
pride in my Jewish heritage was when I visited Israel for a few weeks. I tried to get a job
there so I could stay but the only foreign language I spoke was Japanese and the
Japanese embassy in Tel Aviv wasn't hiring at the time.

I kind of feel like an outsider here. Then again, on most political boards I feel like
an outsider where I am the only conservative (politically) Jew and the only real
defender of Israel.

I enjoy reading the threads here and am learning a lot that I will share on these
other boards.

Thanks for being here for uninformed Jews such as myself.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dominater96 on March 26, 2008, 04:37:25 PM
Does it say to hate those that are evil enough to cause harm to their own people?  I am not familiar with the Talmud so help a gentile out lol
Nope, hate their actions and their sins, but love the Jew, and try and help him change. There is always a chance at Teshuva (repentence).
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 26, 2008, 07:57:08 PM

I am a bad Jew. I grew up in a secular Jewish family whom I dubbed twice a year Jews.
I was also apolitical for most of my life prior to 9/11. The first time I felt tremendous
pride in my Jewish heritage was when I visited Israel for a few weeks. I tried to get a job
there so I could stay but the only foreign language I spoke was Japanese and the
Japanese embassy in Tel Aviv wasn't hiring at the time.

I kind of feel like an outsider here. Then again, on most political boards I feel like
an outsider where I am the only conservative (politically) Jew and the only real
defender of Israel.

I enjoy reading the threads here and am learning a lot that I will share on these
other boards.

Thanks for being here for uninformed Jews such as myself.

Sometimes being the outsider you can see the clear faults of others, that meant to be righteous and very very "jewish"  ;)

Don't worry you are clearly not alone in your situation.

Being not in the click has massive advantages.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: FULL METAL JACKET on March 26, 2008, 08:01:01 PM
I choose Breslov Hasidim  O0

I went with Modern Orthodox, but in general I would say any Orthodox Jew who is a religious Zionist and not Hasidic is cool with me.
What's wrong with Hasids?
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: horselady on March 26, 2008, 08:03:36 PM

I am a bad Jew. I grew up in a secular Jewish family whom I dubbed twice a year Jews.
I was also apolitical for most of my life prior to 9/11. The first time I felt tremendous
pride in my Jewish heritage was when I visited Israel for a few weeks. I tried to get a job
there so I could stay but the only foreign language I spoke was Japanese and the
Japanese embassy in Tel Aviv wasn't hiring at the time.

I kind of feel like an outsider here. Then again, on most political boards I feel like
an outsider where I am the only conservative (politically) Jew and the only real
defender of Israel.

I enjoy reading the threads here and am learning a lot that I will share on these
other boards.

Thanks for being here for uninformed Jews such as myself.

Sometimes being the outsider you can see the clear faults of others, that meant to be righteous and very very "jewish"  ;)

Don't worry you are clearly not alone in your situation.

Being not in the click has massive advantages.

Thank you.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: takebackourtemple on March 26, 2008, 08:21:46 PM
Restructured is a step below deformed. Hard to believe that a Jew can stoop much further down than deformed.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on March 26, 2008, 09:19:10 PM
well i pick Modern orthodox i happened to bump into a couple they are mad nice and cool people, but in general i don't dislike any of the righteous religious groups forget the Karta don't even mention those evil bastards. My best friend happens to be Sefaradi. i work at a Hasidim place and they are not such a nice people.(to be precise no tips and they treat waiters like ****)(NOT ALL). In general Russian Jews dislike them because Hasidim Jews show no respect to Russian Jews, they don't even consider them as Jews period. One guy told me and he kind of makes sense that "our grandparents fought back in holocaust and tried everything possible to survive and save everyone else meanwhile religious groups like Hasidim stayed back and waited to be killed (again not all) at the end those who fought all got killed and religious ones most survived." Now you get the picture majority of Russian Jews stop practicing Judaism and Hasidim who stayed being religious look at them like they are nothing and this is where all the hatred starts back and forth.
Chasidim don't like Russian Jews?  The Lubavitcher Rebbe did more for Russian Jewry than anyone else in the world!
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 26, 2008, 09:22:43 PM
The greatest threat to Judaism is Jews themselves, thats why there are so many groups.

People trying to remain close to G-d where others seek to destroy them for their own agendas. 
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: takebackourtemple on March 26, 2008, 09:43:41 PM
Why do we even need to have different groups of Jews? If every Jew was a Kahanist we would see Moshiach by now.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 26, 2008, 10:02:55 PM
Why do we even need to have different groups of Jews? If every Jew was a Kahanist we would see Moshiach by now.

People go on power trips, and push their own agendas, judge others to be righteous or lessar than others, this is why other groups form.

G-d created everyone equally, but some think they are clearly more equal than others.

G-d is pure and a light in ones life, man just corrupts.

Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: takebackourtemple on March 26, 2008, 11:12:49 PM
G-d created everyone equally, but some think they are clearly more equal than others.

   G-d did not create everyone equal. He chose to make priests, kings, and prophets. To the best of my understanding, there is no place in the Torah where it says that all people are created equal.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 27, 2008, 12:04:03 AM
Why do we even need to have different groups of Jews? If every Jew was a Kahanist we would see Moshiach by now.


nah..if every Jew was righteous, then we would at least come close..
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 27, 2008, 12:05:40 AM

I am a bad Jew. I grew up in a secular Jewish family whom I dubbed twice a year Jews.
I was also apolitical for most of my life prior to 9/11. The first time I felt tremendous
pride in my Jewish heritage was when I visited Israel for a few weeks. I tried to get a job
there so I could stay but the only foreign language I spoke was Japanese and the
Japanese embassy in Tel Aviv wasn't hiring at the time.

I kind of feel like an outsider here. Then again, on most political boards I feel like
an outsider where I am the only conservative (politically) Jew and the only real
defender of Israel.

I enjoy reading the threads here and am learning a lot that I will share on these
other boards.

Thanks for being here for uninformed Jews such as myself.

welcome and stay for a bit...I have been in your shoes sort of...and have been on this site for a year and half! So learn, speak your mind.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 27, 2008, 02:10:32 AM
G-d created everyone equally, but some think they are clearly more equal than others.

   G-d did not create everyone equal. He chose to make priests, kings, and prophets. To the best of my understanding, there is no place in the Torah where it says that all people are created equal.

In general he creates people with two hands two feet, ten toes etc.. Everyone bleeds the same colour blood.

A Jew is a Jew. No matter what way you try to justifty it this fact never changes.

priests, kings, and prophets are position people hold, the men are all the same under the cloth.


Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 27, 2008, 02:15:39 AM
   G-d did not create everyone equal. He chose to make priests, kings, and prophets. To the best of my understanding, there is no place in the Torah where it says that all people are created equal.

In general he creates people with two hands two feet, ten toes etc.. Everyone beleed the same colour blood.

A Jew is a Jew. No matter what way you try to justifty it this fact never changes.

Hey, at first I didn't recognize you with this name! LOL! It seemed familiar then I remembered you're Skippy.  :D
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Yes mills its me hun, quote me with a spelling mistake lol.

I am just having a rest from being hunted.  ;)

Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: horselady on March 27, 2008, 02:39:46 AM
Yeah HorseLady! Stay with us!  O0
This forum is really cool and interesting!  ;)

Thanks.

Can you please tell me what kind of Jews the following are? I've never heard of them.



Knitted Kipa Religious Zionist    5 (20.8%)

Reconstructed    1 (4.2%)

Deformed    0 (0%)

Natura Karta    0 (0%)

Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on March 27, 2008, 04:08:16 AM
JTF JTF JTF !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 27, 2008, 05:28:59 AM
LOL, that quote came out strange.
Anywho, I'm glad to know it's you. I tend to get confused with names at times.
I hope you're ok, being hunted?

Well I have managed to relocate all my belongs and I have had an offer on the farm. So yeah its going ok.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 27, 2008, 07:22:28 AM
Yeah HorseLady! Stay with us!  O0
This forum is really cool and interesting!  ;)

Thanks.

Can you please tell me what kind of Jews the following are? I've never heard of them.



Knitted Kipa Religious Zionist    5 (20.8%)

Reconstructed    1 (4.2%)

Deformed    0 (0%)

Natura Karta    0 (0%)



The knitted kipa relgious zionists are like what JTF jews support.  And the Settlers in Judea and Samaria are basically those types (this is a term i learned recently from antoher Israeli)

Reconstructed = the Reconstructionist movement (very liberal movement)
Deformed = Reformed movement (also very liberal movement)
natura Karta = a sect of very observant Jews who believe they are the only true jews and that everybody else including the state of israel has no right to exist. Basically they are the opposite to the Knitted Kipa religious zionists. They think that Israel can only be a true Jewish nation once the Messiah arrives.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: horselady on March 27, 2008, 02:50:56 PM
Yeah HorseLady! Stay with us!  O0
This forum is really cool and interesting!  ;)

Thanks.

Can you please tell me what kind of Jews the following are? I've never heard of them.



Knitted Kipa Religious Zionist    5 (20.8%)

Reconstructed    1 (4.2%)

Deformed    0 (0%)

Natura Karta    0 (0%)



The knitted kipa relgious zionists are like what JTF jews support.  And the Settlers in Judea and Samaria are basically those types (this is a term i learned recently from antoher Israeli)

Reconstructed = the Reconstructionist movement (very liberal movement)
Deformed = Reformed movement (also very liberal movement)
natura Karta = a sect of very observant Jews who believe they are the only true jews and that everybody else including the state of israel has no right to exist. Basically they are the opposite to the Knitted Kipa religious zionists. They think that Israel can only be a true Jewish nation once the Messiah arrives.

OK thanks. Are Natura Karta also known as Torah True Jews?
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 27, 2008, 05:00:12 PM
Yeah HorseLady! Stay with us!  O0
This forum is really cool and interesting!  ;)

Thanks.

Can you please tell me what kind of Jews the following are? I've never heard of them.



Knitted Kipa Religious Zionist    5 (20.8%)

Reconstructed    1 (4.2%)

Deformed    0 (0%)

Natura Karta    0 (0%)



The knitted kipa relgious zionists are like what JTF jews support.  And the Settlers in Judea and Samaria are basically those types (this is a term i learned recently from antoher Israeli)

Reconstructed = the Reconstructionist movement (very liberal movement)
Deformed = Reformed movement (also very liberal movement)
natura Karta = a sect of very observant Jews who believe they are the only true jews and that everybody else including the state of israel has no right to exist. Basically they are the opposite to the Knitted Kipa religious zionists. They think that Israel can only be a true Jewish nation once the Messiah arrives.

OK thanks. Are Natura Karta also known as Torah True Jews?


according to us in regards to zionism and Israel, defiantely not.  Not sure about the rest.
Title: Re: What is your favorite group of Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on March 27, 2008, 05:07:45 PM
MY FAVORITE JEW:

Lady Klara Mandic  ;)