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There were various reports and controversy concerning George S. Patton; commander of the Third Army. There is no doubt that he was a very effective General, despite the comments he would often make to arouse controversy. Many said he wasn't exactly sane. Old blood and guts they called him. But what kind of a person was he? There are reports that he was antisemitic toward Jews and Blacks. Growing up I always admired his ferocity and his willingness to fight. Many agree we could have used a general like him in Korea and Vietnam; and even today in the "War on Terror", or islam. But what about his antisemitism? There are reports that he admired all military(not secret police), such as generals and officers in the armies of our enemies as formidable foes. He had a respect for them and would even become best friends with them on a personal level; one fellow warrior to another. He did make a comment about concentration camp victims that was interpreted as racist. He said the given the conditions they were living under; they were reduced to being "less than animals". I am eager to learn more about Patton on this issue. Comments and information/fact is welcome.
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There were various reports and controversy concerning George S. Patton; commander of the Third Army. There is no doubt that he was a very effective General, despite the comments he would often make to arouse controversy. Many said he wasn't exactly sane. Old blood and guts they called him. But what kind of a person was he? There are reports that he was antisemitic toward Jews and Blacks. Growing up I always admired his ferocity and his willingness to fight. Many agree we could have used a general like him in Korea and Vietnam; and even today in the "War on Terror", or islam. But what about his antisemitism? There are reports that he admired all military(not secret police), such as generals and officers in the armies of our enemies as formidable foes. He had a respect for them and would even become best friends with them on a personal level; one fellow warrior to another. He did make a comment about concentration camp victims that was interpreted as racist. He said the given the conditions they were living under; they were reduced to being "less than animals". I am eager to learn more about Patton on this issue. Comments and information/fact is welcome.
THE NAZIs are the ENEMY- WADE INTO THEM....
Does not really sound anti-semitic to me. GS Patton was the most formidible general that the USA has EVER had, He killed MAJOR amounts of NAZIs- I wish there were MORE "anti-semites" like GS Patton was.
What he sad, was DEF NOT racist, he saw it for what it was- they DID treat them WORSE than animals. They DID reduce them, BUT- Jews, they are a TOUGH people, the ones that survived lived on. Somw thing to have lived through such a H*LL.
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Quotes from PATTON!
Decision Making: Quotes From Patton
A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.
Victory: Quotes From Patton
Accept the challenges, so you may feel the exhilaration of victory.
Courage: Quotes From Patton
Courage is fear holding on a minute longer.
Responsibility: Quotes From Patton
Do more than is required of you.
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When someone looks at Patton they have to remember that they are dealing with someone who was born in 1885 California. He went into the military school and the Army very early in the new century. I have read several books on Patton and find the man to be an American hero. If you read enough about him you will read things that are good and other things that would not fly in todays world. The thing is that Patton died in 1945 and the world was a much different place than it is today. The man had no pretense he said what was on his mind. Some of the most damaging stories come from Patton's own diary. The man was keeping personal accounts that he would one day review and compile into a book. Sadly he never lived to compile it himself and redact some of the stuff that makes him look bad. Much of the stuff he said that gets him into trouble is stuff he saw from different countries that he was never exposed to beck in west coast and middle America. He would comment on how people lived and different foods and customs he just had no understanding of. He was a tough general and did not believe in mincing words when he wanted something done or disliked something he saw. His toughness is what got him results and made him great. Rest in Peace George S. Patton America needs generals like you today.
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When someone looks at Patton they have to remember that they are dealing with someone who was born in 1885 California. He went into the military school and the Army very early in the new century. I have read several books on Patton and find the man to be an American hero. If you read enough about him you will read things that are good and other things that would not fly in todays world. The thing is that Patton died in 1945 and the world was a much different place than it is today. The man had no pretense he said what was on his mind. Some of the most damaging stories come from Patton's own diary. The man was keeping personal accounts that he would one day review and compile into a book. Sadly he never lived to compile it himself and redact some of the stuff that makes him look bad. Much of the stuff he said that gets him into trouble is stuff he saw from different countries that he was never exposed to beck in west coast and middle America. He would comment on how people lived and different foods and customs he just had no understanding of. He was a tough general and did not believe in mincing words when he wanted something done or disliked something he saw. His toughness is what got him results and made him great. Rest in Peace George S. Patton America needs generals like you today.
"I'll be the HUCKLEBERRY" ;) I LOVE PATTON. PERIOD. Yes, AGREE, we NEED to be LIKE Patton, NOW, ASAP.
All men are timid on entering any fight. Whether it is the first or the last fight, all of us are timid. Cowards are those who let their timidity get the better of their manhood."
- General George Patton Jr, "War as I knew it" 1947
This is what I said on my audio-
Men MUST stand, even in the WORST of situations, and NOt be afraid of their natural born timidity- when they LET THAT GO- they WILL become FIERCE fighting foes, and can STAND against ANY enemy.
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- General George Patton Jr, "War as I knew it" 1947
Thats a great book Paulette. I have it sitting right here on my table now. I read a chapter or two now and then and the wisdom and insight of Patton never ceases to amaze me. Had this man not met his untimely death the post WW2 world may have been much different. My father served in Patton's army and he always felt that there was more to the accident that took Patton's life then meets the eye.
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- General George Patton Jr, "War as I knew it" 1947
Thats a great book Paulette. I have it sitting right here on my table now. I read a chapter or two now and then and the wisdom and insight of Patton never ceases to amaze me. Had this man not met his untimely death the post WW2 world may have been much different. My father served in Patton's army and he always felt that there was more to the accident that took Patton's life then meets the eye.
CJ- WE NEED to get this part of the blog UP and going, there is a time, that we need to FIGHT, and the time is NOW. I have been to WESTPOINT, and Pattons Museum in S. CA. FINE GENERAL, EXC. My former in law was a POW he did recon for PATTON- he was captured by the Italians, and sold to the Germans for a carton of cigarettes, he SURVIVED and was awarded the BRONZE STAR. He was with a black man, and they survived AND ESCAPED. O0 the NAZIs!!! FAB HUH? WE HAVE TO GET AMERICANS on this part of the forum, and use it as an H.Q.
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General Patton spoke his mind. He despised the SS and most definately hated the Communists. He was not afraid to admit his feelings about our enemies. I can just imagine what he would think about the cowardly attacks the Islamos/Nazis/vermin committed against us on 9/11. Now as for the political situation in AMERICA today, he, in my opinion would have started a military coup. He would have had 99% of today's politicians hung or shot for treason. We need Patton in the worst kind of way this day and time. God bless PATTON, AMERICA, and ISRAEL!!!!!
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...so where are these alleged 'anti-semitic' remarks? Or who is making the claim?
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Re: "...where are these alleged 'anti-semitic' remarks? Or who is making the claim?..."
I am making the claim.
Upon liberating the death camps in Germany, General Patton wrote the following in his personal diary:
"Whatever else happens, I know one thing, and that is these Jews must never be allowed out of these camps to return to Germany; for they are lower than animals."
Rumors of his cruel mistreatment of Jews still in the camps led Eisenhower to travel out of his way to visit the camp Patton had been placed in charge over, and personally reprimand General Patton as to his unseemly behavior.
Patton was a classic Jew-Hater of the old school, and was a great General.
He was also a megalomaniac who sincerely believed that he was the incarnation of Julius Caesar.
Jew-Hatred was so endemic within the American social fabric prior to the outbreak of WWII, that Rabbi Meir Kahane wrote that the only thing which saved the American Jews of the 1940's from an imminent American Holocaust, was the fact that America went to war against Germany; thus buying American Jews another half century of life in America.
Classic Jew-Haters always have one or two Jewish friends, for they come in most conveniently when ever the subject of their irrational obsession with "the Jew" is brought to their attention. The classic response is "Some of my best friends are Jews, so don't tell me I hate Jews".
Even the drek bastard Ahmanigrajihad, when asked about his obsession with destroying Israel, remarks "Look"..."A Jew is a Jew"..."but I'm talking about the ZIONISTS!"
Then, of course, after obsessing about how "JEW" is some kind of secret international organization corrupting and seizing control of the world, and obsessing about how "JEW" is some kind of exceptionally evil genius capable of making money out of nothing, and capable of existing in every country in the world, etc. etc......then they say "Not only that!"..."But the JEWS are ALL IMPOSTERS!!!"..."They're not even JEWS!"..."They're MONGOLIAN TURKS FROM KHAZARIA!!!"..."PRETENDING TO BE JEWS!"...."FOR THE REASONS OF USING THE LIE TO STEAL ALL THE ARABS' LANDS WHICH NEVER BELONGED TO THEM, AND TO TRICK PURE WHITE GENTILES INTO GIVING THEM MONEY!!!"...."SEE!"..."THEY'RE REALLY ALL KHAZARS!" (....just don't ask me to explain further how it is that "I can spot a Jew anywhere, anytime"...and "Don't ask me to explain how it is that these imposter Mongolian Turkish Khazars all read and write Hebrew, know the Bible inside out, and seem to have a mental genius for almost every sphere of human endeavor!")
p.s.--ALL of American history has been sanitized and reduced to healthy bits of MYTH which serve a good purpose in teaching youngsters about our history...it's not that we are taught outright lies, but we are taught just enough truth to not realize "the big picture".
A great historian once remarked to me that "The birth of every nation is never like the books would have us believe.
Many of the great men and founders were equally scoundrels and led lives full of scandal and mayhem.
Nothing was pure and clean like the movies make it out to be, and this holds true for America as it does for Israel and any other country in the world".
Here's a great contemporary example:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/090508Tillman.htm (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/090508Tillman.htm)
At this point, I'll leave you readers to draw your own conclusions.
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Re: "...where are these alleged 'anti-semitic' remarks? Or who is making the claim?..."
I am making the claim.
Upon liberating the death camps in Germany, General Patton wrote the following in his personal diary:
"Whatever else happens, I know one thing, and that is these Jews must never be allowed out of these camps to return to Germany; for they are lower than animals."
Rumors of his cruel mistreatment of Jews still in the camps led Eisenhower to travel out of his way to visit the camp Patton had been placed in charge over, and personally reprimand General Patton as to his unseemly behavior.
Patton was a classic Jew-Hater of the old school, and was a great General.
He was also a megalomaniac who sincerely believed that he was the incarnation of Julius Caesar.
Jew-Hatred was so endemic within the American social fabric prior to the outbreak of WWII, that Rabbi Meir Kahane wrote that the only thing which saved the American Jews of the 1940's from an imminent American Holocaust, was the fact that America went to war against Germany; thus buying American Jews another half century of life in America.
Classic Jew-Haters always have one or two Jewish friends, for they come in most conveniently when ever the subject of their irrational obsession with "the Jew" is brought to their attention. The classic response is "Some of my best friends are Jews, so don't tell me I hate Jews".
Even the drek bastard Ahmanigrajihad, when asked about his obsession with destroying Israel, remarks "Look"..."A Jew is a Jew"..."but I'm talking about the ZIONISTS!"
Then, of course, after obsessing about how "JEW" is some kind of secret international organization corrupting and seizing control of the world, and obsessing about how "JEW" is some kind of exceptionally evil genius capable of making money out of nothing, and capable of existing in every country in the world, etc. etc......then they say "Not only that!"..."But the JEWS are ALL IMPOSTERS!!!"..."They're not even JEWS!"..."They're MONGOLIAN TURKS FROM KHAZARIA!!!"..."PRETENDING TO BE JEWS!"...."FOR THE REASONS OF USING THE LIE TO STEAL ALL THE ARABS' LANDS WHICH NEVER BELONGED TO THEM, AND TO TRICK PURE WHITE GENTILES INTO GIVING THEM MONEY!!!"...."SEE!"..."THEY'RE REALLY ALL KHAZARS!" (....just don't ask me to explain further how it is that "I can spot a Jew anywhere, anytime"...and "Don't ask me to explain how it is that these imposter Mongolian Turkish Khazars all read and write Hebrew, know the Bible inside out, and seem to have a mental genius for almost every sphere of human endeavor!")
p.s.--ALL of American history has been sanitized and reduced to healthy bits of MYTH which serve a good purpose in teaching youngsters about our history...it's not that we are taught outright lies, but we are taught just enough truth to not realize "the big picture".
A great historian once remarked to me that "The birth of every nation is never like the books would have us believe.
Many of the great men and founders were equally scoundrels and led lives full of scandal and mayhem.
Nothing was pure and clean like the movies make it out to be, and this holds true for America as it does for Israel and any other country in the world".
Here's a great contemporary example:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/090508Tillman.htm (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/090508Tillman.htm)
At this point, I'll leave you readers to draw your own conclusions.
My conclusion is THIS:
Schindler- a whoremonger, despised Jews himself.....in the beginning. HE WAS A NAZI WAR PROFITEER. He drank, had wild parties, hung with Amon Goetz, GREAT guy huh? He killed NO NAZIs, yet PATTON killed MANY.
Both, in MY personal book, are "anti-semites" that the Jews NEEDED. Forget about his ridiculous rants. What have WE PERSONALLY done in OUR OWN LIVES, that EVEN comes CLOSE to what these men did? And the SHAMEFUL thing, is that the Jews of THAT time, considered these men to be Righteous. WHY? THEY SAVED LIVES. Has anybody here saved lives, or killed an enemy? FACT: Schindler saved over 1,100 Jews, now there are over 6,000 descendants.
FACT: PATTON killed over 5,000 NAZIs PLUS.
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It's common knowledge that after liberating Buchenwald Patton forced thousands of Germans to go to the camps and see the horrors that went on there because he himslef was so disgusted by it. The comment you posted sounds way out of character for Patton, let alone him turning around and mistreating survivors.
I Googled 'Patton anti-semitism' and here's what i found first: 'The Power of Prejudice' from the Jewish Post. If this is not a far left marxist article then I do not know what is: "They (Patton and Brown) were disciples of the American military culture, which was based on the idea of White Supremacy." Next it says "Later Patton wrote about "...a very apparent Semitic influence in the press...they are trying to implement communism." I do not see how this is anti-semitic. It is aimed at communists, who happen to be Jews. You can't really argue that there were Jewish individuals who turned to far left causes at the time (Rosenburgs), there still are plenty today (Soros). Do bad they can't see of the light of JTF.
Second from the weekly standard: "There is no evidence, though, that Patton's anti-Semitism, even if it exceeded the usual country-club variety, affected his conduct during the war. Plenty of Jewish officers and men served under Patton and admired him, and he seems to have treated Jewish fighting men well in return. He put a Jewish officer, Abe Baum, in command of the ill-fated Hammelburg raid to rescue his beloved son in law, Colonel John Waters." This article did not even give a quote to prove his anti-semitism.
As far as The U.S. executing a holocaust to rival what the Nazis did-WHAT A JOKE!!!! I will believe that nonsense the same day i believe the Jews are trying to exterminate the Baalestinians. :::D
Prison Planet is a joke so I will not even go to that link. Alex Jones is a hardcore Israel hater. He says they are 'toddler killers' and were involved in the '9-11 conspiracy'
The author who is trying to smear America and Patton as 'racist and anti-semite' in the first article, Joseph Bendersky, seems to be quite left wing, I will Google him and see if I can find anything else and report back later.
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Thanks WesternPatriot,
You have revealed that you are too narrow minded and ignorant to be on the forum.
You're a classic case of "my mind's made up, so don't confuse me with any facts."
By mocking the words and truth of our greatest Jewish Leader to ever live in modern times, Rabbi Meir Kahane, you indicate to me that you are a truly worthless individual and should be banned from our forum.
Screw off,
MassuhD
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Thanks WesternPatriot,
You have revealed that you are too narrow minded and ignorant to be on the forum.
You're a classic case of "my mind's made up, so don't confuse me with any facts."
By mocking the words and truth of our greatest Jewish Leader to ever live in modern times, Rabbi Meir Kahane, you indicate to me that you are a truly worthless individual and should be banned from our forum.
Screw off,
MassuhD
He didn't say anything about Rabbi Kahane. the Prison Planet IS part of Alex Jones, and his conspiracy theories, and he HATES Jews, TOTALLY. His followers HATE Jews. The WesternPatriot, is probably a RIGHTEOUS gentile, fighting for USA, THAT is WHY he is more geared toward THIS section. He is PROBABLY 100% FOR JEWS. He is PROBABLY ALSO a good person that I invited to be here. I cant go and recruit people, when others ask to ban them. Americans ALSO believe that Patton was a GREAT hero- and he WAS. Come ON you guys! PLEASE! I, personally appreciate the positives AND negtives of a person, but PATTON was in FACT, the greatest General that the USA has EVER had. Can we PLEASE concentrate on Pattons great points and the other points well FINE. But COME ON! This man SAVED LIVES. AND KILLED NAZIs!
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I read the Patton Papers and dont recall him ever saying that the Jews should not be let out of the camps. However he was anti Semetic until he met Arabs in the desert campaign, where he wrote how disgusting they were and that the Jews should be turned loose on them.
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HEY PAULETTE!
EITHER YOU DON'T READ WESTERNPATRIOT'S POSTS, OR YOU'VE NEVER READ ONE OF MASSUHDGOODNAME'S POSTS, OR YOU'VE NEVER READ ANY BOOKS WRITTEN BY RABBI MEIR KAHANE, OR ANY AND ALL OF THE ABOVE.
I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT ALEX JONES....IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THE LINK TO AN IMPORTANT STORY WAS ON HIS WEBSITE.
NOR DO I CARE ONE FLIP NICKEL ABOUT WHO YOU INVITE TO THIS WEBSITE; PARTICULARLY SO WHEN THEY MOCK THE WORDS OF RABBI MEIR KAHANE WHICH I HAD WRITTEN IN MY POST.
PERHAPS YOU SHOULD EXERCISE A LITTLE MORE CAUTION ABOUT WHOM AND WHAT YOU BRING TO THE FORUM.
AND I AM NOT IMPRESSED WITH YOUR UNENDING RANTS.
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HEY PAULETTE!
EITHER YOU DON'T READ WESTERNPATRIOT'S POSTS, OR YOU'VE NEVER READ ONE OF MASSUHDGOODNAME'S POSTS, OR YOU'VE NEVER READ ANY BOOKS WRITTEN BY RABBI MEIR KAHANE, OR ANY AND ALL OF THE ABOVE.
I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT ALEX JONES....IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THE LINK TO AN IMPORTANT STORY WAS ON HIS WEBSITE.
NOR DO I CARE ONE FLIP NICKEL ABOUT WHO YOU INVITE TO THIS WEBSITE; PARTICULARLY SO WHEN THEY MOCK THE WORDS OF RABBI MEIR KAHANE WHICH I HAD WRITTEN IN MY POST.
PERHAPS YOU SHOULD EXERCISE A LITTLE MORE CAUTION ABOUT WHOM AND WHAT YOU BRING TO THE FORUM.
AND I AM NOT IMPRESSED WITH YOUR UNENDING RANTS.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Well, I dont know what to say. You have hurt my feelings, and have made me feel very badly. I am sorry that you dont like my 'rants' The subject was NOT about Rabbi Kahane, it is about Patton. All of the people that I, personally have invited are EXC people. You have made me feel very badly this night.
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Thanks WesternPatriot,
You have revealed that you are too narrow minded and ignorant to be on the forum.
You're a classic case of "my mind's made up, so don't confuse me with any facts."
By mocking the words and truth of our greatest Jewish Leader to ever live in modern times, Rabbi Meir Kahane, you indicate to me that you are a truly worthless individual and should be banned from our forum.
Screw off,
MassuhD
Don't take it personally. Massuh has a low opinion of everyone but his own glorious self.
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Come on Massuh I think your overreacting. Both Paulette and WesternPatriot are only stating an opinion on Patton. They have both been good members of the forum and don't deserve to be told off like that. I have been looking through several books I have here on Patton and yes he makes a comment or two about many different groups of people but I have yet to see where he says that concentration camp victims should never have been allowed to leave the camps. If you have something that would prove your position I would be interested in seeing it. As for Patton the positives far outweigh the negatives.
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HEY PAULETTE!
EITHER YOU DON'T READ WESTERNPATRIOT'S POSTS, OR YOU'VE NEVER READ ONE OF MASSUHDGOODNAME'S POSTS, OR YOU'VE NEVER READ ANY BOOKS WRITTEN BY RABBI MEIR KAHANE, OR ANY AND ALL OF THE ABOVE.
I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT ALEX JONES....IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THE LINK TO AN IMPORTANT STORY WAS ON HIS WEBSITE.
NOR DO I CARE ONE FLIP NICKEL ABOUT WHO YOU INVITE TO THIS WEBSITE; PARTICULARLY SO WHEN THEY MOCK THE WORDS OF RABBI MEIR KAHANE WHICH I HAD WRITTEN IN MY POST.
PERHAPS YOU SHOULD EXERCISE A LITTLE MORE CAUTION ABOUT WHOM AND WHAT YOU BRING TO THE FORUM.
AND I AM NOT IMPRESSED WITH YOUR UNENDING RANTS.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Well, I dont know what to say. You have hurt my feelings, and have made me feel very badly. I am sorry that you dont like my 'rants' The subject was NOT about Rabbi Kahane, it is about Patton. All of the people that I, personally have invited are EXC people. You have made me feel very badly this night.
Don't worry about Massuh. He is a Megalomaniac and a manic depressive. Perhaps he forgot to take his lithium or his prozac today, its not you, its him.
Furthermore, he has an insane sensitivity for Alex Jones. Say anything about Alex Jones and Massuh goes off the deep end as we have seen here.
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Come on Massuh I think your overreacting. Both Paulette and WesternPatriot are only stating an opinion on Patton. They have both been good members of the forum and don't deserve to be told off like that. I have been looking through several books I have here on Patton and yes he makes a comment or two about many different groups of people but I have yet to see where he says that concentration camp victims should never have been allowed to leave the camps. If you have something that would prove your position I would be interested in seeing it. As for Patton the positives far outweigh the negatives.
The fact of the matter is that Massuh has a severe mental illness and should be pitied.
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One of the many good things about Massuh is that he doesn't argue when he knows he's beaten.
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There were various reports and controversy concerning George S. Patton; commander of the Third Army. There is no doubt that he was a very effective General, despite the comments he would often make to arouse controversy. Many said he wasn't exactly sane. Old blood and guts they called him. But what kind of a person was he? There are reports that he was antisemitic toward Jews and Blacks. Growing up I always admired his ferocity and his willingness to fight. Many agree we could have used a general like him in Korea and Vietnam; and even today in the "War on Terror", or islam. But what about his antisemitism? There are reports that he admired all military(not secret police), such as generals and officers in the armies of our enemies as formidable foes. He had a respect for them and would even become best friends with them on a personal level; one fellow warrior to another. He did make a comment about concentration camp victims that was interpreted as racist. He said the given the conditions they were living under; they were reduced to being "less than animals". I am eager to learn more about Patton on this issue. Comments and information/fact is welcome.
The PATTON Prayer for good weather:
Patton asked if the chaplain had a “good prayer for weather.”
He flipped through prayer books, but finding nothing that he believed Patton would find suitable, he drafted his own, and had it typed on an index card.
On the reverse side, he wrote: “To each officer and solider in the Third United States Army, I wish a Merry Christmas. I have full confidence in your courage, devotion to duty and skills in battle. We march in our might to complete victory. May God’s blessing rest upon each of you on this Christmas Day.” Under it was Patton’s signature.
Patton ordered 250,000 to be printed, and delivered between Dec. 12 and 14. He asked all under his command to pray the chaplain’s prayer for fair weather.
On Dec. 20, those prayers, according to Connelly and history, must have been answered. On that day, the rain and terrible fog ceased. The weather turned cold, bitterly cold, but clear enough that wave after wave of American planes could bring in needed supplies to support the front.
Clearly- even though Patton had bad points, he did have love for G-d, of this I know is truth, through the many stories that I have heard from Great Uncles, and their friends and many that served himin the 3rd ARMY. They loved him, AND they hated him, but NONE can ever say, that this man was NOT A GREAT general. G-d gave him a 'knowing' with battle strategies, many people have this gift, they just dont join the Military.. I am personally into "Psy-Ops"
Since Patton is not alive today, it would be beneficial for all people fascinated by Patton, to LEARN his techniques, he was THIS nations BEST General. I want MORE on Patton here- It is as I stated... If there is no Patton, why not MAKE ourselves LIKE HIM.
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Some FABULOUS Quotes on PATTON!
GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON, JR. QUOTATIONS
"A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week."
“A good solution applied with vigor now is better than a perfect solution applied ten minutes later.”
"America loves a winner, and will not tolerate a loser, this is why America has never, and will never, lose a war.”
“A pint of sweat will save a gallon of blood.”
“By perseverance, study, and eternal desire, any man can become great.”
“Do everything you ask of those you command.”
“Do more than is required of you.”
“Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity.”
“Good tactics can save even the worst strategy. Bad tactics will destroy even the best strategy.”
“I always believe in being prepared, even when I'm dressed in white tie and tails.”
“I am a soldier, I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight.”
“If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.”
“If I do my full duty, the rest will take care of itself.”
“In case of doubt, attack.”
These great quoes, we can, and MUST adhere to now, we ARE in a WAR to save this USA.
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I too strongly favor our learning what we can from Patton and any other hero; regardless of whether or not they liked Jews.
Exactly why I will hyperlink to some website with known anti-Jew tendencies, if it contains articles and information which might be important for us to read, and in cases in which there is no mainstream media source for that information.
And this is no different than Jews loving General Patton because he liberated Jews and saved the West from Hitler, in spite of the fact that he had contempt for Jews and in spite of the fact that he believed America should have allied with the Nazis and together attacked the USSR.
Jews love America, even if some Americans don't love us in return.
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Some FABULOUS Quotes on PATTON!
GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON, JR. QUOTATIONS
"A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week."
“A good solution applied with vigor now is better than a perfect solution applied ten minutes later.”
"America loves a winner, and will not tolerate a loser, this is why America has never, and will never, lose a war.”
“A pint of sweat will save a gallon of blood.”
“By perseverance, study, and eternal desire, any man can become great.”
“Do everything you ask of those you command.”
“Do more than is required of you.”
“Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity.”
“Good tactics can save even the worst strategy. Bad tactics will destroy even the best strategy.”
“I always believe in being prepared, even when I'm dressed in white tie and tails.”
“I am a soldier, I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight.”
“If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.”
“If I do my full duty, the rest will take care of itself.”
“In case of doubt, attack.”
These great quoes, we can, and MUST adhere to now, we ARE in a WAR to save this USA.
Patton was really NO "friend" to the Apostles either- for those that are New Testament Believers, he even tackled on preachers, and was MAD that a soldier would leave the Christ- lol:
As Patton trained his men in the California desert, he was prepared for almost any kind of invasion upon the United States. Drills were prepared at the concept of the Japanese invading from Mexico and the Germans coming from the Atlantic. The book even covers incidences where drills were considered the real thing until further intelligence proved to be false alarms.
Even though the Untied States had not entered the war, Patton was ready for anything.
The highest calling
Patton's view on being a soldier was radical, "The highest profession in the world is that of a soldier because we are willing to give our lives that others can have better lives. That's the same thing Christ did! Think about that!" Although logically true, very few people are willing to say such things.
Patton never feared controversial topics or opinions. "Christ had twelve Disciples. Not a damn one of them was a soldier! They all deserted! All twelve of them should have been shot! Every damn one of them! We shoot deserters in this army." From what I've read of Patton, I'm sure he had this conversation with God to ask why he didn't shoot them. LOL.
Patton worked hard to strip his men of fear, especially fear of failure, "A commander does not dare have any fear. If a commander shows any fear, the men will see it. The men will be scared. When there is fear of failure, there will be failure."
To kill the fear in his men, Patton worked hard to instill pride in them. Patton personally paid for several hundred wash basins to be delivered to the California desert so that his troops had showers and toilets that flushed. The troops were to look their best at all times and be in proper uniform. Even soldiers running into each other in the city were to give each other a firm salute. He believed that faith and confidence built pride, and pride destroyed fear.
"Any officer who is afraid of failure will never win! Any man who is afraid to die will never really live."
Timeless
What I've covered barely scrapes the surface. I have retold these stories and principles countless times throughout these past six years. Although everything in this book is more than six decades old, they still inspire today. Patton was brash, uncouth, and was able to get the job done in ways people never dreamed.
Stories of Patton schooling preachers on the Bible, forcing his soldiers to take cold showers in order to engrain the concept of continually moving in combat, and surprising the troops by showing up in random areas of a command post have given a more in-depth look at how the General shaped his men. In each chapter, Williamson will list one of Patton's principles followed by more lessons from the General and stories Williamson's service.
Williamson often goes into how the General's words affected him. The thought of Patton's troops hating him are put to rest as Williamson tells stories of how his outlook on life was changed by Patton. Even dealing with cancer, the author relied on words from the General to determine how he'd deal with the disease.
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Patton should be judged by his acts, not by some words in a diary.
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Second from the weekly standard: "There is no evidence, though, that Patton's anti-Semitism, even if it exceeded the usual country-club variety, affected his conduct during the war. Plenty of Jewish officers and men served under Patton and admired him, and he seems to have treated Jewish fighting men well in return. He put a Jewish officer, Abe Baum, in command of the ill-fated Hammelburg raid to rescue his beloved son in law, Colonel John Waters." This article did not even give a quote to prove his anti-semitism.
This is true this is a well know fact
http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl/9780440236092.html
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I wish we would have more of the Patton today then the wimpies we got in the brass of our military. Patton wouldn't mess around in a time or war. The enemy is the enemy young or old.
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I wish we would have more of the Patton today then the wimpies we got in the brass of our military. Patton wouldn't mess around in a time or war. The enemy is the enemy young or old.
PATTON on "Cut and Running"
Patton continued quietly, "Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the b*stards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin", he yelled, "I am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son-of-a-b*tch Hitler. Just like I'd shoot a snake!"
AND PATTON WAS A DEM, can you all BELIEVE THAT?
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I wish we would have more of the Patton today then the wimpies we got in the brass of our military. Patton wouldn't mess around in a time or war. The enemy is the enemy young or old.
Well, THIS forum could CLEARLY use more PATTON. >:(
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Excerpt from the link below.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/453019/the_dark_side_of_george_s_patton.html?cat=37
General George S. Patton's diaries, which were published after his death, reveal that Patton was an anti-Semite, and not just akin to the garden-variety, country club anti-Semite that was common in America up to and through the Second World War. According to Leonard Dinnerstein in his book Antisemitism in America, (Oxford Univ. Press, 1995) Patton would not allow Jewish chaplains at his headquarters. (p.139). In light of the fact that the U.S. was engaged in unconditional warfare with the genocidal Nazi regime that had singled out "World Jewry" for liquidation, and the fact that as a commander of a corps and later an army, Patton had many Jewish soldiers, including staff officers, under his command, such as refusal is unconscionable.
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Excerpt from the link below.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/453019/the_dark_side_of_george_s_patton.html?cat=37
General George S. Patton's diaries, which were published after his death, reveal that Patton was an anti-Semite, and not just akin to the garden-variety, country club anti-Semite that was common in America up to and through the Second World War. According to Leonard Dinnerstein in his book Antisemitism in America, (Oxford Univ. Press, 1995) Patton would not allow Jewish chaplains at his headquarters. (p.139). In light of the fact that the U.S. was engaged in unconditional warfare with the genocidal Nazi regime that had singled out "World Jewry" for liquidation, and the fact that as a commander of a corps and later an army, Patton had many Jewish soldiers, including staff officers, under his command, such as refusal is unconscionable.
The WORST thing I find in this life, is that Jews are actually ANTI-SEMITIC- their self-hatig ways show ME, that they just hate me too.
We still need people LIKE Patton as far as militant. Many people bring this up- thats fine by me- it should be. Oskar Schindler was a NAZI, so, the argument is almost silly to me. BOTH saved Jews.
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What ticks me off is the way the prisoners of war are treated down in Gitmo bay by the bleeding hearts. Heck, even one put forth a defense that his religious rights were violated by a female interrogator getting to close to him. What a crock of crap. >:( They are recieving better treatment than they'll ever give our boys and girls. They're animals and we should treat them as such. If we need to take off a hand or whatever to get information, go for it.
Patton would shoot every judge and lawyer concerned with giving these animals special treatment. He would completely go off the deepend and would wipe out half of Washington, DC as well. I say lets clone Patton and let the judgement begin. God bless AMERICA, PATTON, and ISRAEL!!!!!
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What ticks me off is the way the prisoners of war are treated down in Gitmo bay by the bleeding hearts. Heck, even one put forth a defense that his religious rights were violated by a female interrogator getting to close to him. What a crock of crap. >:( They are recieving better treatment than they'll ever give our boys and girls. They're animals and we should treat them as such. If we need to take off a hand or whatever to get information, go for it.
Patton would shoot every judge and lawyer concerned with giving these animals special treatment. He would completely go off the deepend and would wipe out half of Washington, DC as well. I say lets clone Patton and let the judgement begin. G-d bless AMERICA, PATTON, and ISRAEL!!!!!
Amen.
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What ticks me off is the way the prisoners of war are treated down in Gitmo bay by the bleeding hearts. Heck, even one put forth a defense that his religious rights were violated by a female interrogator getting to close to him. What a crock of crap. >:( They are recieving better treatment than they'll ever give our boys and girls. They're animals and we should treat them as such. If we need to take off a hand or whatever to get information, go for it.
Patton would shoot every judge and lawyer concerned with giving these animals special treatment. He would completely go off the deepend and would wipe out half of Washington, DC as well. I say lets clone Patton and let the judgement begin. G-d bless AMERICA, PATTON, and ISRAEL!!!!!
If we don't decapitate them we are probably treating them better than they treat us when they capture us.
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Patton on Islam:
"Just finished reading the Koran—a good book and interesting." Patton had a keen eye for native customs and methods, wrote knowingly of local architecture, even rated the progress of word-of-mouth rumor in Arab country at 40-60 miles a day. In spite of his regard for the Koran he concluded: "To me it seems certain that the fatalistic teachings of Mohammed and the utter degradation of women is the outstanding cause for the arrested development of the Arab. . . . Here, I think, is a text for some eloquent sermon on the virtues of Christianity"
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,793941-2,00.html
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General Patton is no doubt the greatest general our BELOVED AMERICA has had to defend her. Our military leaders should study Patton's writings until they are memorized, and so should all of our troops. If they want to be great officers and NCOs, they should strive to be like the greatest...General Patton. If they did this, our militaries effectiveness would increase tremendously. When the late great George C. Scott potrayed Patton, the movie never showed the reall Patton in my opinion. I would love to see a remake of Patton, but it would not be the same without George C. Scott. GOD BLESS ISRAEL and HER IDF, AMERICA and HER TROOPS, and all of my BROTHERS and SISTERS, and JTF.
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General Patton is no doubt the greatest general our BELOVED AMERICA has had to defend her. Our military leaders should study Patton's writings until they are memorized, and so should all of our troops. If they want to be great officers and NCOs, they should strive to be like the greatest...General Patton. If they did this, our militaries effectiveness would increase tremendously. When the late great George C. Scott potrayed Patton, the movie never showed the reall Patton in my opinion. I would love to see a remake of Patton, but it would not be the same without George C. Scott. G-d BLESS ISRAEL and HER IDF, AMERICA and HER TROOPS, and all of my BROTHERS and SISTERS, and JTF.
true, the real patton had a very high pitched voice, and yelled and cursed alot to make up for this perceived inadequacy.
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There were various reports and controversy concerning George S. Patton; commander of the Third Army. There is no doubt that he was a very effective General, despite the comments he would often make to arouse controversy. Many said he wasn't exactly sane. Old blood and guts they called him. But what kind of a person was he? There are reports that he was antisemitic toward Jews and Blacks. Growing up I always admired his ferocity and his willingness to fight. Many agree we could have used a general like him in Korea and Vietnam; and even today in the "War on Terror", or islam. But what about his antisemitism? There are reports that he admired all military(not secret police), such as generals and officers in the armies of our enemies as formidable foes. He had a respect for them and would even become best friends with them on a personal level; one fellow warrior to another. He did make a comment about concentration camp victims that was interpreted as racist. He said the given the conditions they were living under; they were reduced to being "less than animals". I am eager to learn more about Patton on this issue. Comments and information/fact is welcome.
When Patton said " they were reduced to being less than animals " he was in fact pointing out the insanity and extent of the autrocities commited against the Jews. In other words he meant that animals were treated better than the Jews which must have horrified him to no end.
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This isn't even a discussion. You can easily tell he is an anti-semite and racist, he is like the definition of white American patriot. He was just one of those people that loved war and didn't care who it was with. In other words, he seemed like an ultra-patriot if you know what I mean. He was a hell of a general, the only general I know of with the balls to go out and fight on the front line with the draftees and enlisted servicemen, as opposed to sitting in the Pentagon like a senseless dork all day. Also, his name scared Hitler when he heard that he was in Britain organizing the Royal Army for the mainland invasion because he was that tremendous of a leader. He is an interesting guy, crazy as hell. Definitely, you will never ever see an army general like Patton ever again. Changes in warfare also will play a part in ensuring generals like him will never exist again.
Some favorite quotes said by him:
"A pint of sweat, saves a gallon of blood."
"Always do everything you ask of those you command."
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived."
"I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom."
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AND PATTON WAS A DEM, can you all BELIEVE THAT?
A democrat at that time was nothing like a democrat today. The democrats in those days were patriotic freedom fighters, not abortion advocating liberals like today. A democrat in his days was similar to a more "moderate conservative," whereas a republican in those days was a conservative to the core. But both parties were really the same in those days when you look at it, and same today in a sense that they have both became more liberal.
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This is a joke right? Where did he make racist and anti semitic comments?
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I was reading his book about WWII too; great read; If he was CiC in place of Isenhower th war woud be ended before X-mass of 1944. It woud save the life of thousands of death camps prisoners so give us this kind of "antisemite" everyday. Anyway he was sidetracked becouse of his big mouth and silly sensitivity of Rosvelt administration. Until JFK was elected the dems were conservatives especialy those southern ones.