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Save Western Civilization => Save Serbia => Topic started by: Nikola1389 on April 11, 2008, 04:10:24 PM
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what is the point of jtf support for serbia?
I mean its good that they suppor us,and the things they say are true,but i could never again
consider America as a friend,and i don't trus the jews when serbia is involved(no offence)
Why should any serb ever trust the west ever again?
And we are on our way to a coloser relationship with Russa,witch isn't
supported by JTF
And i have the feeling that u support us becous we are in a conflict with albania,with the muslims
ty 4 reading'n replying
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You ask why are we your friends? Be happy you have friends. We think the Serbs have similar ethical and moral values as us as opposed to the muslims who are insane and evil. You have many peoples to distrust, but righteous Jews, who have similar values as well as similar enemies, you say you don't trust. I don't understand your position.
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i don't trus the jews when serbia is involved(no offence)
You may have said "no offense", but it seems to me that your comment is intended to be offensive. :o
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i don't trus the jews when serbia is involved(no offence)
You may have said "no offense", but it seems to me that your comment is intended to be offensive. :o
I suppose he feels that there's something apparently missing in friendship between two peoples: physical contacts between each other.
Personnaly, I've never been confronted to a Serbian-Jew gathering, party, meeting or whatever, or been told something like this happened. It's like Jews stay on their side, Serbs as well stay on their (other) side, and the only place where they talk eashother, discuss, have some relationship is this site.
I think our both people are missing something. :-\
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I think it's because Jews don't have real friends among other nations! I mean..they are chosen people and gentiles are not! So they don't need non-Jews! Therefore they can't have deeper friendship with any country like we have with other Orthodox (Russia, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria..)
It is obvious that they support us because they also have problems with Muslims! It's just politics and their own interests!
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You must always remember that it is not "the West" as "the West" is controlled not by the G-d fearing Christian or even Jew but an international socialistic oligarchy of the elite that is doing anything possible to push the NWO agenda. Jews should suppor the Serbs as the Serbs did come to the aid of the Protestant West in WW2 and too aided the Jewish people.... They did what they could and HaShem will bless them for it.... my opinion...
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I am not not comfortable with the tone of this thread.
Why not just be happy that you Serbs have Jewish supporters, and that you have a whole Serbian section on this forum?
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And we are on our way to a coloser relationship with Russa,witch isn't
supported by JTF
And i have the feeling that u support us becous we are in a conflict with albania,with the muslims
ty 4 reading'n replying
I understand his point of view.
Look the West had always imperialistic and hostile intentions towards Serbia.
The Serbs must be very carefull with the West because of their experiences with it from the past.
Further, we should accept every help from true and honest people whose intentions are to help Serbia. But this help must not have bad consequences against our relatioship with our traditional brothers the Russian.
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I am not not comfortable with the tone of this thread.
Why not just be happy that you Serbs have Jewish supporters, and that you have a whole Serbian section on this forum?
We are very happy with our Jewish friends.
In Serbia there was always a strong Jewish-Serbian friendship presence, Klara Mandic is a good example.
But Nikola wants to warn the Serbs that the majority of the West does not have the same attitude towards the Serbs as JTF does.
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Jews should suppor the Serbs as the Serbs did come to the aid of the Protestant West in WW2 and too aided the Jewish people.... They did what they could and HaShem will bless them for it.... my opinion...
Protestant West showed in 1991 how grateful they to the Serbs by supporting the Catholic and Muslim separatist of former Yugoslavia.
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I am not not comfortable with the tone of this thread.
Why not just be happy that you Serbs have Jewish supporters, and that you have a whole Serbian section on this forum?
I feel the same way Lisa. JTF has been very supportive and has given Serbs a great platform to educate folks who really are totally unaware of the real situation in Serbia. I was sad to see this thread today.
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Remember, that wasn't the majority but that little minority of Elitists CFR with assistance of the Brit's Fabian/Round Table rulers. Most of the West that is informed is for the Serbs, imo. The problem is when you have people like Bill Clinton with like 80% of his administration chosen from CFR/Trilateral commission......there is no choice. It is an oligarchy of elitists with a nwo agenda. They, with their international minyans under the lackeys of the UN push their agenda....similar to the congo, undermining of Russia, natinalist China and Batista in Cuba... my 2 cents.
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I feel the same way Lisa. JTF has been very supportive and has given Serbs a great platform to educate folks who really are totally unaware of the real situation in Serbia. I was sad to see this thread today.
You do not have to feel like that.
We Serbs who are here present on the forum of JTF are really glad with your support.
Nikola has some question which can perpectly be anwsered and misunderstandings can be easly avoided.
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Remember, that wasn't the majority but that little minority of Elitists CFR with assistance of the Brit's Fabian/Round Table rulers. Most of the West that is informed is for the Serbs, imo. The problem is when you have people like Bill Clinton with like 80% of his administration chosen from CFR/Trilateral commission......there is no choice. It is an oligarchy of elitists with a nwo agenda. They, with their international minyans under the lackeys of the UN push their agenda....similar to the congo, undermining of Russia, natinalist China and Batista in Cuba... my 2 cents.
Yes but in 1945 we did not have Bill Clinton and the west stil supported the enemies of the Serbian nation. Even during WW2 the West supported the political option which was very anti-Serbian oriented. Today we have the same problem.
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I'd not say "the West" but the NWO elitists....like today that have back the recognition of Kosavo and who has built up Communist China and awared them the Olympics to place a false face on the communist entity.... They are sooo corrupt.
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Bulgarians ,are Serbian friends?
I was in dark before?
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Nikola why did you come on this site anyway?JTF is trying to help us and is this how you thank them?!I am disappointed at you and the way you think.Not everyone is thinking this way!
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I think it's because Jews don't have real friends among other nations! I mean..they are chosen people and gentiles are not! So they don't need non-Jews! Therefore they can't have deeper friendship with any country like we have with other Orthodox (Russia, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria..)
It is obvious that they support us because they also have problems with Muslims! It's just politics and their own interests!
Jelena this is very disappointing to hear!Jews don't have friends?!What a ...After all Mr.Chaim did with videos on youtube is this is his thanks from us?!ANYONE THAT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT JTF AND JEWS WHO TRY TO HELP US DO CAN LEAVE!NOBODY IS HOLDING YOUR SLEAVE!This is very disappointing! :-[
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JTF and Chaim Ben Passach are cool.
No problem with them.
I really respect Chaim and other true JTF's who honestly help Serbia.
I just do not believe that the West has friendly intentions towards the Serbs.
Serbs should not expect any serious support from the West. We must separate the people from the JTF and the Western people who are in chargde and have power.
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I'd not say "the West" but the NWO elitists....
In the middle ages, in 1914 and in 1941 you had not the NWO.
The same nations which the NWO occupies today had very, very genocidal and hostile intentions towards the Serbs.
Today they have not change at all.
I see an alliance between real orthodox Jews and Serbs in the future.
I hope that these Jews will not search for support among nation who prosecuted them in the past.
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Inspite of different religious and cultural backgrounds, Serbs and JTF (Jewish) have much more than enough reasons to be friends and mutual supporters. This notwithstanding the fact that they both seem to have different friend circles at Russia and America arising out of concrete but different historical realities. It is none of their own fault either of Serbs or of Jewish.
Russia and America may be guided by their own individual materialistic policies and needs at times and this variable factor may not basically affect the intendedly good relations between Serbs and JTF.
I hope, there shall not be any place for mistrust and doubt between the Serbs and JTF, even if they are presently unable to directly help each other in mundane terms. Afterall, all things are NOT decided in mundane terms alone.
With Regards... :)
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Some people come here to make problems?
I am 100% with Serb Chicago!
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Some people come here to make problems?
I am 100% with Serb Chicago!
Then they do not feel like returning back for clarifications or making amends?
With Regards... :)
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You ask why are we your friends? Be happy you have friends.
M8,nothing is ever free,and friendships aren't to be taken lightly,be happy happy that you have friends?i'm more interested in what are my friends like(don't mean this in a negativ way,just read the rest ;) )
Serbs did come to the aid of the Protestant West in WW2
And we got a anti-serb communist country witch was destined to colaps from the moment it was designed,as u see the result it kosovo(one of the results)
I am not not comfortable with the tone of this thread.
Why not just be happy that you Serbs have Jewish supporters, and that you have a whole Serbian section on this forum?
regetably,letters can't show a tone evin with "! ? !? etc..." i am happy,really happy there are ppl like Chiam,and i think he is doing this becous of our history(rigchous(sry 4 my spelling :DD)history,fighting against the nazis,similar faiths in the holocaust,and our atics ) and becous he is graitfull,and we are graitfull to him becous he agloidges it!
And i'm really happy to have jewish supporters,but what about the rest of the jews?You know we had alot of jews involved in the conflic of ex-yu,serving as generals and goverment officials,and that leads me to the question:Do jews really want us as allys,or are they seeing us as a ripe political situation right now to use against they'r own muslim problem?
I feel the same way Lisa. JTF has been very supportive and has given Serbs a great platform to educate folks who really are totally unaware of the real situation in Serbia. I was sad to see this thread today.
m8,i for one am graitfull 2 jtf,i really support most of the things your about,and this thread doesn't attack JTF,it poses a question,after all this is a forum right?don't be sad,we are only carefull,after all,when did we get something from anybody just like that,i do not mean to offend,it is just my inquisitive nature(i ment i'm nurious by nature if i mis-spelled :D)
Nikola why did you come on this site anyway?JTF is trying to help us and is this how you thank them?!I am disappointed at you and the way you think.Not everyone is thinking this way!
Dude,i come to this site to learn about jtf,and my thread is for just the reason!Do not follow anything blindely,it usualy ends badly(nazi germany example),if you knew what i was thinking,you wouldn't make this reply...
p.s. to some quotes i didn't reply fully,so i wouldn't repeat myself constantly,you can lear my opinion from all the replys,thx 4 reading :)
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You ask why are we your friends? Be happy you have friends.
M8,nothing is ever free,and friendships aren't to be taken lightly,be happy happy that you have friends?i'm more interested in what are my friends like(don't mean this in a negativ way,just read the rest ;) )
Serbs did come to the aid of the Protestant West in WW2
And we got a anti-serb communist country witch was destined to colaps from the moment it was designed,as u see the result it kosovo(one of the results)
I am not not comfortable with the tone of this thread.
Why not just be happy that you Serbs have Jewish supporters, and that you have a whole Serbian section on this forum?
regetably,letters can't show a tone evin with "! ? !? etc..." i am happy,really happy there are ppl like Chiam,and i think he is doing this becous of our history(rigchous(sry 4 my spelling :DD)history,fighting against the nazis,similar faiths in the holocaust,and our atics ) and becous he is graitfull,and we are graitfull to him becous he agloidges it!
And i'm really happy to have jewish supporters,but what about the rest of the jews?You know we had alot of jews involved in the conflic of ex-yu,serving as generals and goverment officials,and that leads me to the question:Do jews really want us as allys,or are they seeing us as a ripe political situation right now to use against they'r own muslim problem?
I feel the same way Lisa. JTF has been very supportive and has given Serbs a great platform to educate folks who really are totally unaware of the real situation in Serbia. I was sad to see this thread today.
m8,i for one am graitfull 2 jtf,i really support most of the things your about,and this thread doesn't attack JTF,it poses a question,after all this is a forum right?don't be sad,we are only carefull,after all,when did we get something from anybody just like that,i do not mean to offend,it is just my inquisitive nature(i ment i'm nurious by nature if i mis-spelled :D)
Nikola why did you come on this site anyway?JTF is trying to help us and is this how you thank them?!I am disappointed at you and the way you think.Not everyone is thinking this way!
Dude,i come to this site to learn about jtf,and my thread is for just the reason!Do not follow anything blindely,it usualy ends badly(nazi germany example),if you knew what i was thinking,you wouldn't make this reply...
p.s. to some quotes i didn't reply fully,so i wouldn't repeat myself constantly,you can lear my opinion from all the replys,thx 4 reading :)
In that case I suggest you post on another forum as this one is Jewish [you know, the people you don't trust], and it does not seem you have anything to add that's helpful. Good luck.
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i don't trust the curent politics of Israel
And tell me,does every jew,or atleest a mayority(atleest 80%) support JTF?if so i'll apolodgise,and ask the moderator to remove this thread
I do not mean i don't trust every jew i see,i mean,lets say ppl like Olbrite(or however that is spelled),how can u consider friends ppl who were generals against your people?
Do you consider Hitler a man who was doing what he was doing in the interest of the jewish ppl?
Why do you insist that i am against jews?
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i don't trust the curent politics of Israel
And tell me,does every jew,or atleest a mayority(atleest 80%) support JTF?if so i'll apolodgise,and ask the moderator to remove this thread
I do not mean i don't trust every jew i see,i mean,lets say ppl like Olbrite(or however that is spelled),how can u consider friends ppl who were generals against your people?
Do you consider Hitler a man who was doing what he was doing in the interest of the jewish ppl?
Why do you insist that i am against jews?
WHO WANTS ALBRIGHT OR SHES A TRAITOR TO JEWS AS WELL OR CLARK ANOTHER TRAITOR TO JEWS AS WELL.Jtf does'nt support these Jews
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I can tell you that Jews in Israel (those who know anything about history at list), genuinely like the Serbs who fought the Nazis and hadn't persecuted Jews. Jews remember that the Serbs are a heroic noble people, while their neighbors were genocidal allies of the Nazis.
If you asked why then why wouldn't Israel be more supportive of Serbia? That's because we have a corrupt self hating establishment whose policy is leading to a national suicide of Israel itself, so don't expect such people to take the moral high ground (which they always pretend to take).
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This is a couterproductive thread.Christians ,,Jews ,,boeres,,,serbs,,,,,working togather?Its crazy!LIKE A FOX!JTFs commitment says enough.If someone asks an "honest" question like nick did It should be handeled by PM so as to not divide us.Just a suggestion.
wayne jude :)
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thank you for the last 2 posts,thats what i was hopeing to hear
Ty for answering my question
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Well, Chaim has made numerous videos supporting the Serbian cause. If you can't trust an organization that is altruistically showing their support and made enemies on your behalf ( with Croatian and Muslim Nazis), then I don't know who you can trust.
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Nikola,
I can't speak for *all* the Jewish people. But the Jews of JTF support the Serbs. We do it because Serbia was America's ally in both World Wars, and many Serbs were good to the Jews.
Now this is not to say that every Jew supports the Serbs. Some of the liberal ones have been taken in by the Bosnian/Albanian moosie propaganda about the Serbs committing "genocide." But we all know there was no genocide of moosies. Furthermore, Chaim has made many videos supporting the Serbs because he believes that given our history, it's the moral thing to do. He has received hundreds of death threats of Bosnians and Croatians as a result.
On another note, there is a young Jewish right wing blogger named Julia Gorin, and she is very pro-Serb. You should check out her site -- http://www.juliagorin.com
Do you consider Hitler a man who was doing what he was doing in the interest of the jewish ppl?
Regarding your Hitler question, I don't understand what you are getting at. You should re-read your history, as Hitler and his minions were responsible for the deaths of millions of Jews and others. So I don't understand how you could come here and ask such a question.
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Good post Lisa!
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JTF supports the Serbs, but Unfortunately not all the JEWS are JTF-ers! That's why we have to fight to make the rest of JEWS to understand our cause and we have to be united so we could build a mass movement and SAVE ISRAEL, US and SERBIA! I think this thread is not helping us to grow, but instead brings arguments and fights!
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I agree with you Jasmina. Therefore, I am locking this thread.