JTF.ORG Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chaim Ben Pesach on May 20, 2008, 10:55:40 AM
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בס''ד
Baruch HaShem, we are back!
The imbeciles in our hosting company are responsible for the down time. We also have lost two weeks worth of data, including all of our many new members who signed up in the past two weeks.
There was a problem with the air conditioning in the place where our server is stored. So our entire hard drive burned up. We lost all of the data on our hard drive. Shlomo, baruch HaShem, had a backup for the data but the last backup was done two weeks ago. We cannot do backups every day, it is simply too time consuming. It takes an enormous amount of time to upload all of our data once again, especially on the Hebrew forum, where there is much more data because of the HUGE number of posts from our great Israeli members. So we are still uploading the Hebrew forum.
We will overcome this, G-d willing. It will be a small and temporary blip in our march to becoming a mass movement, G-d willing.
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Thank you and Shlomo so much for your great work! :)
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Thank goodness we are back.
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This is great we are back on O0
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I missed it greatly. I though someone took it down. GREAT 2 have it back O0
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I missed it greatly. I though someone took it down. GREAT 2 have it back O0
I thought that as well
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Who are you guys hosting through if you mind me asking?
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Yeah it's great to be back. But I wanna know is what happened to our posts???
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Please be aware that some files are still uploading to the server.
I'm so sorry you lost some of your posts! My last backup was from the 6th. Our files are so huge it broke the existing backup software and I've had to do it all by hand these days.
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Please be aware that some files are still uploading to the server.
I'm so sorry you lost some of your posts! My last backup was from the 6th. Our files are so huge it broke the existing backup software and I've had to do it all by hand these days.
It's not a big deal. This wasn't the first time I lost posts. In other forums I've lost them too.
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Thank you Shlomo for all your help in getting us back online!
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Everybody who asked questions of Chaim and Yesha will need to repost them.
I'm glad to see the forum is back up. I thought we had experienced an attack from Europe.
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Every time this forum is down, my heart sinks. I think: "it has started already." :'( ;D
If this forum is forced to close down permanently, where would the members find each other? Is there some blog or some other forum one could go to?
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Is the latest "Ask JTF" destroyed then?
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Is the latest "Ask JTF" destroyed then?
Unfortunately, yes.
And I was looking forward to it too.
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Please be aware that some files are still uploading to the server.
I'm so sorry you lost some of your posts! My last backup was from the 6th. Our files are so huge it broke the existing backup software and I've had to do it all by hand these days.
Thanks for all your work!
I'm mostly sad about the question threads for Chaim's and Yesha's shows being lost but I'm glad that I remember what I asked them.
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I first thought that it was brought down like Peace Now did, but then I remembered all of the horror stories about the hosting company and their affirmative action employees. Glad to see the forum's back up, and Shlomo, you've come through big for us once again. You're the best!
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Please be aware that some files are still uploading to the server.
I'm so sorry you lost some of your posts! My last backup was from the 6th. Our files are so huge it broke the existing backup software and I've had to do it all by hand these days.
Thanks for all your work!
I'm mostly sad about the question threads for Chaim's and Yesha's shows being lost but I'm glad that I remember what I asked them.
Me too. I wanna know when the next Ask JTF comes on.
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Please be aware that some files are still uploading to the server.
I'm so sorry you lost some of your posts! My last backup was from the 6th. Our files are so huge it broke the existing backup software and I've had to do it all by hand these days.
Thanks for all your work!
I'm mostly sad about the question threads for Chaim's and Yesha's shows being lost but I'm glad that I remember what I asked them.
Me too. I wanna know when the next Ask JTF comes on.
Maybe Chaim still has the original tape.
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Please be aware that some files are still uploading to the server.
I'm so sorry you lost some of your posts! My last backup was from the 6th. Our files are so huge it broke the existing backup software and I've had to do it all by hand these days.
Thanks for all your work!
I'm mostly sad about the question threads for Chaim's and Yesha's shows being lost but I'm glad that I remember what I asked them.
Me too. I wanna know when the next Ask JTF comes on.
Maybe Chaim still has the original tape.
That's what I'm hoping.
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It's good that we are back, I hope that we repost all the good links that we lost.
Ask JTF is also gone :(
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It's good that we are back, I hope that we repost all the good links that we lost.
Ask JTF is also gone :(
Both this week's and next week's shows are gone. >:(
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Its so great to have the sight back. Those shvartza lowlifes who are promoted over and over again at the hosting company were probably on crack when they were on the job. I would be very surprised if the customer service staff at the hosting company was staffed by nice white gentlemen from the bible belt.
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Its so great to have the sight back. Those shvartza lowlifes who are promoted over and over again at the hosting company were probably on crack when they were on the job. I would be very surprised if the customer service staff at the hosting company was staffed by nice white gentlemen from the bible belt.
Hopefully they will be fired for doing this. ;)
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Chaim, was this a result of the incompetence of the African Action employees? This is a very unfortunate setback.
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Chaim, was this a result of the incompetence of the African Action employees? This is a very unfortunate setback.
The african and Islamic turds who work at the hosting company are responsible for this.
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Chaim, if someone sent a contribution via credit card or paypal during the 2 week period in which the data was lost, do you still have the info that's necessary for JTF and VJA to get the funds that were sent?
W/o saying, I'm glad to see the JTF site running again.
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Chaim, was this a result of the incompetence of the African Action employees? This is a very unfortunate setback.
The african and Islamic turds who work at the hosting company are responsible for this.
Yes they will pay for ruining this site.
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I thought that maybe some supporters of the Obama campaign had the site cancelled due to the closeness of the elections.
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I was going CRAZY without this website! CRAZY I tell you O0
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I was going CRAZY without this website! CRAZY I tell you O0
Exactly. I was also going crazy without the forums. But as long as the forums and the main site are open again, I'm happy.
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I was going CRAZY without this website! CRAZY I tell you O0
Me too!
I was starting to experience withdrawal symptoms :D
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Chaim, if someone sent a contribution via credit card or paypal during the 2 week period in which the data was lost, do you still have the info that's necessary for JTF and VJA to get the funds that were sent?
W/o saying, I'm glad to see the JTF site running again.
Paypal operates independently outside of JTF. Nothing pertaining to Paypal is lost.
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I thought that our site was hacked by german muslims :P
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Thank you so much, is there another hosting company maybe we should look into. Cause this has happened a few times since I been here and I have been since day one when this forum began.
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Thank you so much, is there another hosting company maybe we should look into. Cause this has happened a few times since I been here and I have been since day one when this forum began.
I agree, it has happened a few times. I dont believe the current company jtf uses for hosting deserves any business. The shvartzes there deserve the one dollar solution, thats about it.
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We lost 2 weeks of postings, so any updated information for the last 2 weeks are gone unless by some miracle. And could be vital information. Now if the hosting company has baboons working and we are very anti Obama, just think 2+2
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Was Barack Hussein's followers behind this "glitch?
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Was Barack Hussein's followers behind this "glitch?
I can guarantee you that "the bros" were behind this. They were listening to rap while the hard drives were overheating.
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Was Barack Hussein's followers behind this "glitch?
I can guarantee you that "the bros" were behind this. They were listening to rap while the hard drives were overheating.
O0 :::D ;D
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Was Barack Hussein's followers behind this "glitch?
I can guarantee you that "the bros" were behind this. They were listening to rap while the hard drives were overheating.
And while eating fried chicken and got their grease-covered fingers over the keyboards.
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The company says "The people behind SMF are a diverse group of individuals who in their free time, put their efforts together to help make SMF what it is today"
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Aren't THEY supposed to backup data?
May I try to archive the data files in the future?
I have machines running 24/7 and I can write a script to download the DB files.
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forgot what my question was for this week...going to have to think of another one.
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Baruch HaShem we're back! O0
I was worried that some Nazi wanted our site down! >:(
I noticed some posts were lost, but what really matters is that the site is up again O0
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Really glad were back! Was really worried! O0
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I'm so glad Ask JTF was recordrd before all this!
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(http://alvinsart.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/relieved.jpg)
O0 :)
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I'm just glad that everything is ok now... cause the beat must go on! O0
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Glad to see we are up and running again. Our forum is blessed by having someone like Shlomo to get us back on line so quickly. Thankfully the loss of posts and other information was limited.
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i was worried it was the peace now trolls, good thing it wasnt!
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Chaim, if someone sent a contribution via credit card or paypal during the 2 week period in which the data was lost, do you still have the info that's necessary for JTF and VJA to get the funds that were sent?
W/o saying, I'm glad to see the JTF site running again.
Paypal operates independently outside of JTF. Nothing pertaining to Paypal is lost.
Yirmiyahu Ben Moshe , thank you for the info. O0
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Thank you so much, is there another hosting company maybe we should look into. Cause this has happened a few times since I been here and I have been since day one when this forum began.
I am a server provider though I don't think it'd be appropriate for me to advertise in the forums.
One thing I can suggest to Shlomo though is if you have a offsite FTP account with enough space, could set Cpanel to do automated backups through WHM (Web Hosting Manager) which will generate a automated backup everyday.
Our procedure for backup was different, we used megadrive storage chassis with 8 hotswappable harddrives (SCSI) that would be used for our backups, space was never a issue.
It's better than doing by hand, the website it's self can't be that large (although with a archive of the MP3's, I suppose it could), i'm sure the MYSQL database is getting pretty big with all the forum users though.
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Aren't THEY supposed to backup data?
May I try to archive the data files in the future?
I have machines running 24/7 and I can write a script to download the DB files.
Not if it's a dedicated server, if it were a shared hosting account, they could advertise that they do, but if it's a dedicated server or a colocated server, the customer is usually responsible for the backups. Now for a dedicated server, the hosting company is usually responsible for the hardware since they are renting out the equipment.
Also, you guys are a bit confused with a server environment on how hot it gets in there, anyone whos been in a datacenter (including me who works in one) will tell you how damn loud it is from all the fans and airconditioning. A server is pretty much a computer with hardware specifically made for the job, unfortunately I don't buy this "airconditioning" story. Generally if hardware gets too hot, server marketed motherboards will usually shutdown automatically from the heat. Performance will vary as well.
A lot of providers are skipping out on crucial hardware parts these days, usually they save money by purchasing servers with consumer grade parts (SATA harddrive at 7200 RPM, consumer motherboard, consumer CPU, consumer RAM, etc.), you have to realize that everytime you bring up a website, you are literally accessing files (.PHP, .HTML, .MP3) on a harddrive from the server, think of this being accessed everyday 24/7, it's going to get worn out pretty quick if it's a consumer grade harddrive.
Parts do fail, harddrives can physically get worn out over time (depending how long the servers been running), electrical board on the harddrive can go bad, PSU can spike and literally fry the harddrive, etc.
The airconditioning units are usually provided from the floor, usually servers are 1u (1 unit) and put on a rack, the AC is supposed to cool them because the servers get very hot in such a small case but to keep them compact reduces the overall space in the datacenter and saves on cost.
Heres a picture of a rack to give you an idea.
(http://www.swansonmedia.com/domain/800px-Floridaserversfront1.jpg)
By the way, this airconditioning story, the reason it doesn't add up is that if the AC failed, the server would still run as mentioned but performance would vary, the fans on the machine would kick on to try and cool the components, the AC would have had to have been out quite a while, if the datacenter didn't replace the AC, how many other servers were affected? Would like to hear more about this because it sounds suspicious. See if datacenter can get a low level read on the harddrive if they haven't already formatted it.
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Glad to see we are up and running again. Our forum is blessed by having someone like Shlomo to get us back on line so quickly. Thankfully the loss of posts and other information was limited.
Yeah, it got have been worse the entire forum would be deleted. Thank God it did not.
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One thing I can suggest to Shlomo though is if you have a offsite FTP account with enough space, could set Cpanel to do automated backups through WHM (Web Hosting Manager) which will generate a automated backup everyday.
We used cpanel until our database and site got so big that it broke cpanel. And that was a while back.
I do it all by hand with scripts I wrote. I will probably set up a cron job.
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One thing I can suggest to Shlomo though is if you have a offsite FTP account with enough space, could set Cpanel to do automated backups through WHM (Web Hosting Manager) which will generate a automated backup everyday.
We used cpanel until our database and site got so big that it broke cpanel. And that was a while back.
I do it all by hand with scripts I wrote. I will probably set up a cron job.
There should be an option in WHM as well to generate full backups aside from Cpanel, I normally go under configure backup and have it backing up to a remote FTP which will compile all user accounts on the server automatically. Are you using the backup specifically in Cpanel on port 2082 or through port 2086 from whm?
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I suggest that Meir and Shlomo continue this conversation through private messages or by telephone.
We don't want to give our enemies in Peace Now any information about how we operate our sites and our forums.
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Every time this forum is down, my heart sinks. I think: "it has started already." :'( ;D
If this forum is forced to close down permanently, where would the members find each other? Is there some blog or some other forum one could go to?
Yes there are. I think individual members have their own blogs.
My JTFWomen myspace has a back-up fan group forum there dedicated to JTF.
But hopefully, this will never happen again and we wont need to use it.
We could go to kahane.org.... LOL!
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Don't count on it. I have an account there but I have never posted. It is really childish. They have a section for Jokes I kid you not
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My JTFWomen myspace has a back-up fan group forum there dedicated to JTF.
But hopefully, this will never happen again and we wont need to use it.
Thanks!
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Every time this forum is down, my heart sinks. I think: "it has started already." :'( ;D
If this forum is forced to close down permanently, where would the members find each other? Is there some blog or some other forum one could go to?
Masha, that is not going to happen. We are here to stay!
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Is the latest "Ask JTF" destroyed then?
I hope that you saw that the last Ask JTF was not lost and has been posted on the forum.
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Every time this forum is down, my heart sinks. I think: "it has started already." :'( ;D
If this forum is forced to close down permanently, where would the members find each other? Is there some blog or some other forum one could go to?
Masha, that is not going to happen. We are here to stay!
The few times the forum has been down it was up and running in no time and came back even better than before. I have been watching the number of guests we been getting each night the numbers are really great and are growing each week. Now if some of the folks signed on as guests who are not members would just make the transition to members it would really be wonderful. Chaim is right our forum is here to stay and the reason is we have Chaim and a great group of people to see that it does.
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Is the latest "Ask JTF" destroyed then?
I hope that you saw that the last Ask JTF was not lost and has been posted on the forum.
I already found and listened to it, thanks!
Being from the Soviet Union, I have been conditioned to expect the worst. ;D
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Thanks for this thread.
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If you care about the lost "text", you can ask the guys form WaybackMachine. They archive most of the internet. But usually they publish it after 6 month have passed. I don't know, if they'll give you access to the information of your own website sooner.
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php