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Guns and Self-Defense => Guns/Firearms => Topic started by: P J C on June 17, 2008, 08:33:42 PM
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Every member of JTF should own a gun.
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Why yes, yes they should. Thank you for the informative post O0
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Every member of JTF should own a gun.
That what it's coming to. You're right! O0
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AMAZING that the MOST IMPORTANT post gets THREE RESPONSES. >:(
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I have no gun. Almost nobody has a gun in my country.
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guns are banned in some countries, like britain
you'd have to risk your life to get one! finding a criminal to buy it from and risking imprisonment..
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I know a few people who have a license for a weapon.
But to give you an example: when a burglar enters your house, and you shoot him, you are most likely to get imprisoned for murder.
OR : if a burglar is in your house, and runs away, and you shoot him while he's already on the run, then you'll get imprisoned for sure here.
Conclusion: you may only shoot back, but never start firing yourself, even if your life is in danger, the reaction must be with equal arms....
That's the law in Belgium.
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Yes, I need to get one, I know how to shoot..... 8)
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It's nearly impossible for law abiding people to have guns in New York, from what I understand.
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It's nearly impossible for law abiding people to have guns in New York, from what I understand.
Not for me i have a few :)
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It's nearly impossible for law abiding people to have guns in New York, from what I understand.
Let them try to take my guns away from me >:(
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My family has guns and we currently have 2 assault rifles, AR15 and a XCR and were waiting for the Bushmaster ACR to make the third =)
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Owning a gun in violation of the law of New York or any other state or country is certainly not behavior condoned by JTF, a law abiding organization. If it can be done legally? Great. It is becoming more and more necessary.
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Owning a gun in violation of the law of New York or any other state or country is certainly not behavior condoned by JTF, a law abiding organization. If it can be done legally? Great. It is becoming more and more necessary.
Actually it should be the other way around, that New York is in violation of abiding by the second amendment with their unconstitutional gun laws. But the JTF being a law abiding citizen, we cannot condone illegal activity no matter how rediculous the laws may seem, of course I'm sure that the disarmed law abiding population will just become victims.
I only promote legal ways to obtain firearms, what members do on their spare time is their own responsibility as I have not provided material for obtaining them illegally.
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Owning a gun in violation of the law of New York or any other state or country is certainly not behavior condoned by JTF, a law abiding organization. If it can be done legally? Great. It is becoming more and more necessary.
Actually it should be the other way around, that New York is in violation of abiding by the second amendment with their unconstitutional gun laws. But the JTF being a law abiding citizen, we cannot condone illegal activity no matter how rediculous the laws may seem, of course I'm sure that the disarmed law abiding population will just become victims.
I only promote legal ways to obtain firearms, what members do on their spare time is their own responsibility as I have not provided material for obtaining them illegally.
I never said anything about illegal possesion of a firearm. I'm just as law abiding as the next guy.
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8;)
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This jew has a few.
This morning I was very proud of my teenage daughter as she left our house with her AR15, I made sure that she had a few hundred rounds of ammo and it was properly sorted. She was going to meet her rifle coach, today she said she put 75 rounds into a target 600 yards downrange in only 180 seconds. Coach is also teaching her to handload so she can afford to feed her habit.
What's a nice Jewish girl doing in a situation like that? Why aren't more nice Jewish girls learning this important skill?
Every non-muslim should know how to handle a rifle. Including self-hating ones so that they can put a bullet in their own head.
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This jew has a few.
This morning I was very proud of my teenage daughter as she left our house with her AR15, I made sure that she had a few hundred rounds of ammo and it was properly sorted. She was going to meet her rifle coach, today she said she put 75 rounds into a target 600 yards downrange in only 180 seconds. Coach is also teaching her to handload so she can afford to feed her habit.
What's a nice Jewish girl doing in a situation like that? Why aren't more nice Jewish girls learning this important skill?
Every non-muslim should know how to handle a rifle. Including self-hating ones so that they can put a bullet in their own head.
Knowing the self hating ones, they'd just give their guns to the muslims like the leftist government does in Israel when they supply Hamas.
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This jew has a few.
This morning I was very proud of my teenage daughter as she left our house with her AR15, I made sure that she had a few hundred rounds of ammo and it was properly sorted. She was going to meet her rifle coach, today she said she put 75 rounds into a target 600 yards downrange in only 180 seconds. Coach is also teaching her to handload so she can afford to feed her habit.
What's a nice Jewish girl doing in a situation like that? Why aren't more nice Jewish girls learning this important skill?
What a lovely thought to behold at bedtime to know that there are Iranian Muslims in the U.S. with AR15s. ::)
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Owning a gun in violation of the law of New York or any other state or country is certainly not behavior condoned by JTF, a law abiding organization. If it can be done legally? Great. It is becoming more and more necessary.
Actually it should be the other way around, that New York is in violation of abiding by the second amendment with their unconstitutional gun laws. But the JTF being a law abiding citizen, we cannot condone illegal activity no matter how rediculous the laws may seem, of course I'm sure that the disarmed law abiding population will just become victims.
I only promote legal ways to obtain firearms, what members do on their spare time is their own responsibility as I have not provided material for obtaining them illegally.
YES, ABSOLUTELY Cohen!! AMEN- I am going to NYC, to the 5 burroughs and DEMAND that law abiders get THOSE rights BACK.
I am Cohen's BIGGEST Fan. ;)
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Owning a gun in violation of the law of New York or any other state or country is certainly not behavior condoned by JTF, a law abiding organization. If it can be done legally? Great. It is becoming more and more necessary.
Actually it should be the other way around, that New York is in violation of abiding by the second amendment with their unconstitutional gun laws. But the JTF being a law abiding citizen, we cannot condone illegal activity no matter how rediculous the laws may seem, of course I'm sure that the disarmed law abiding population will just become victims.
I only promote legal ways to obtain firearms, what members do on their spare time is their own responsibility as I have not provided material for obtaining them illegally.
YES, ABSOLUTELY Cohen!! AMEN- I am going to NYC, to the 5 burroughs and DEMAND that law abiders get THOSE rights BACK.
I am Cohen's BIGGEST Fan. ;)
Well it would be great if someone could get a movement together that would be able to get some reasonable gun ownership laws on the books in the City of New York. Actually it is possible to own long guns and even a pistol in the city with the correct permits. I live outside the city and the laws are somewhat better but restrictions on pistols is still and issue. New York is a very liberal place Paulette its going to be hard getting any positive reform out of crazy politicians. The few good people we have in politics are way to few in number to take an issue like that on. The liberal media here in N.Y. State have got the public brainwashed that guns in the hands of the public kill people when they should be telling them guns in the hands of criminals kill people.
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This jew has a few.
This morning I was very proud of my teenage daughter as she left our house with her AR15, I made sure that she had a few hundred rounds of ammo and it was properly sorted. She was going to meet her rifle coach, today she said she put 75 rounds into a target 600 yards downrange in only 180 seconds. Coach is also teaching her to handload so she can afford to feed her habit.
What's a nice Jewish girl doing in a situation like that? Why aren't more nice Jewish girls learning this important skill?
What a lovely thought to behold at bedtime to know that there are Iranian Muslims in the U.S. with AR15s. ::)
The post your quoting, the user stated they are Jewish.
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This jew has a few.
This morning I was very proud of my teenage daughter as she left our house with her AR15, I made sure that she had a few hundred rounds of ammo and it was properly sorted. She was going to meet her rifle coach, today she said she put 75 rounds into a target 600 yards downrange in only 180 seconds. Coach is also teaching her to handload so she can afford to feed her habit.
What's a nice Jewish girl doing in a situation like that? Why aren't more nice Jewish girls learning this important skill?
What a lovely thought to behold at bedtime to know that there are Iranian Muslims in the U.S. with AR15s. ::)
The post your quoting, the user stated they are Jewish.
Read Iratollah's ask JTF question
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Before WWII, Germany had gun laws that required registration. When Hilter came to power, all he had to do was find all the registrations and take the guns away from the citizens. Unarmed citizens are helpless against a tyrannical government.
Here in Arizona we have fairly relaxed gun laws because this part of the country still has that "Wild West" attitude; it's not illegal to own an unregistered gun. Although I own about 12 firearms, only two of them are registered because I bought them at gun shops. I don't want the government to know how many guns I have or what kind they are.
It gives me comfort to know that a government offical won't be knocking on my door to take all my guns away.
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I am taking the fifth...
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I am taking the fifth...
Why?
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I am sure the Feds monitor this site.
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I am sure the Feds monitor this site.
JTF is a law abiding movement the Feds would get very bored monitoring our website.
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As history has recently proved, what is in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of the United States of America today will be illegal tomorrow.
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I am sure the Feds monitor this site.
What are they going to do the topic is about people should own a gun for protection like for them there family and home no one is saying to get one to comit crimes
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Better than taking the fifth its best to talk about gun ownership in abstract terms. Even thought nothing is out of place or illegal why bring on unwanted scrutiny.
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I am sure the Feds monitor this site.
There is nothing out of place, we are discussing legal firearm ownership and self defense as covered under the law. We would never encourage anything illegal. We are not advocating violence, simply self defense measures and being prepared.
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I am sure the Feds monitor this site.
There is nothing out of place, we are discussing legal firearm ownership and self defense as covered under the law. We would never encourage anything illegal. We are not advocating violence, simply self defense measures and being prepared.
EXACTLY!! There is nothing to hide on this web site!! O0
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i'm a non jew but share alot of the same ideas & have approx a doz. handguns & a few long arms,aslo licensed & qualified. remember that it is better to tried by 12 than carried by six..
my ideas are more towards the conservate right, & i am not a liberal by far. as the bible says, an eye for an eye.. i can live with that..
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i'm a non jew but share alot of the same ideas & have approx a doz. handguns & a few long arms,aslo licensed & qualified. remember that it is better to tried by 12 than carried by six..
my ideas are more towards the conservate right, & i am not a liberal by far. as the bible says, an eye for an eye.. i can live with that..
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i am with you american hero, death to the left, i am a proud conservative orthodox jew
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i wanna point out one fact, not all jtf members can legaly own a gun for local gun controll laws or THIER AGE
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ur right but it's really hard to own a legal firearms in Serbia due to laws.......it's like u wanna own a nuclear missile....so many papers :(
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ur right but it's really hard to own a legal firearms in Serbia due to laws.......it's like u wanna own a nuclear missile....so many papers :(
We're not talking about nuclear weapons, we're talking about personal arms.
Oh and Serbia makes some fine guns.
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ur right but it's really hard to own a legal firearms in Serbia due to laws.......it's like u wanna own a nuclear missile....so many papers :(
We're not talking about nuclear weapons, we're talking about personal arms.
Oh and Serbia makes some fine guns.
no no no i am talking about personal arms but it's so hard to get the papers 4 them.....and yeah we do make some fine guns 8)...
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I have a S&W .40 semi-automatic handgun. Love it! O0
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I have a S&W .40 semi-automatic handgun. Love it! O0
What kind of S&W .40 handgun? Sigma? M&P?
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I have a S&W .40 semi-automatic handgun. Love it! O0
What kind of S&W .40 handgun? Sigma? M&P?
A CZ. :)
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I own a .38. :D I fired it once many many years ago when my Dad taught me how to shoot.
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I own a .38. :D I fired it once many many years ago when my Dad taught me how to shoot.
What kind of .38? Who is the manufacturer?
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i have thought about it, in addition to owning guns jtf members should start small gun clubs with other members near them, i mean with antisemitism on the rise, a great way to protect ourselves is to form local groups with our members, and we could also encourage other conservatives to join us. just pitching ideas here
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i have thought about it, in addition to owning guns jtf members should start small gun clubs with other members near them, i mean with antisemitism on the rise, a great way to protect ourselves is to form local groups with our members, and we could also encourage other conservatives to join us. just pitching ideas here
Were not like a gang here. Take it easy. ;D
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i have thought about it, in addition to owning guns jtf members should start small gun clubs with other members near them, i mean with antisemitism on the rise, a great way to protect ourselves is to form local groups with our members, and we could also encourage other conservatives to join us. just pitching ideas here
Were not like a gang here. Take it easy. ;D
Hey caount me in for the North Georgia gang. My house is 3 miles from a private club where I am a member. 3 IDPA pistol ranges, 2 shotgun range, 1 full auto range and a 300 yard range.
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This is a very true statement. I plan on getting my gun license here in Jersey.
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This is a very true statement. I plan on getting my gun license here in Jersey.
Licenses are evil, but do what you have to do. Better to have a gun than have nothing.
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I own a .38. :D I fired it once many many years ago when my Dad taught me how to shoot.
What kind of .38? Who is the manufacturer?
It's made by Smith and Wesson. :)
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well i mean not a gang just small affilitations to keep khanist's safe from racist attacks, i mean the number of neo nazis in this country is only going to rise, (there are ten million of em in europe) if we dont want a repeat of the holocaust we have to stand together united and armed
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You mean like the JDL? I proposed a security wing for the JTF in the past but the idea wasn't very popular unforunately. The JDL had a good thing going protecting the Jews and they were well feared by the enemies, unfortunately JDL is mainly defunct in the US today.
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something along the lines of the jdl, anything that will protect jews from fascist bastards, i mean when memebers live near one another the members should more or less start alliances that keep one another safe from neo nazis and such.
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something along the lines of the jdl, anything that will protect jews from fascist bastards, i mean when memebers live near one another the members should more or less start alliances that keep one another safe from neo nazis and such.
I would promote a similar method to what the Jews did when they resettled in Israel for the first time during the late 1800's - early 1900's where they created kibbutz and farming communities. It wouldn't be such a bad idea to have some rural land in the south or perhaps even the northwest. Jews could learn survival skills and work together as a community and be armed.
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i have three guns.
one is an AK-47, which is real (got it from my uncle who served in the army, he used it to kill a few people)
the other is a glock-19 and my third gun is a paintball gun. Deleted by Lisa. JTF is a law abiding organization. We're against randomly killing innocent people of all races.
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i have three guns.
one is an AK-47, which is real (got it from my uncle who served in the army, he used it to kill a few people)
the other is a glock-19 and my third gun is a paintball gun. Delete by Lisa
I hope you're joking... you sound like a very bisturbed individual!
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i have three guns.
one is an AK-47, which is real (got it from my uncle who served in the army, he used it to kill a few people)
the other is a glock-19 and my third gun is a paintball gun. Deleted by Lisa
I hope you're joking... you sound like a very bisturbed individual!
how does that make me disturbed? a simple mod to the AK and it is a guarenteed killing weapon, perfect for the struggle, the glock is for low profile excrement, when i go out if i need it, and the paintball shooting, well, we gotta get rid of the filth in this country, why not scare them out?
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i have three guns.
one is an AK-47, which is real (got it from my uncle who served in the army, he used it to kill a few people)
the other is a glock-19 and my third gun is a paintball gun. Deleted by Lisa
Ok first of all, if it's a real AK47, give me the first few numbers of the serial number, tell me what symbols (numbers) are located on the gun and a picture.
Your Glock 19, what are the first 2 numbers of the serial?
Paintball, as someone who used to play in tournaments (speed ball) and was paid as a professional for speedball tourneys, that's highly irresponsible and hurts the sport of paintball as a whole by you engaging in "paintball drivebys", not something to joke about. We do not encourage violence, only self defense.
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i have three guns.
one is an AK-47, which is real (got it from my uncle who served in the army, he used it to kill a few people)
the other is a glock-19 and my third gun is a paintball gun. Deleted by Lisa
Ok first of all, if it's a real AK47, give me the first few numbers of the serial number, tell me what symbols (numbers) are located on the gun and a picture.
Your Glock 19, what are the first 2 numbers of the serial?
Paintball, as someone who used to play in tournaments (speed ball) and was paid as a professional for speedball tourneys, that's highly irresponsible and hurts the sport of paintball as a whole by you engaging in "paintball drivebys", not something to joke about. We do not encourage violence, only self defense.
im not home, dun dun, im at work, ill post up when i get back, dont worry. Deleted by Lisa. This individual is deranged.
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i have three guns.
one is an AK-47, which is real (got it from my uncle who served in the army, he used it to kill a few people)
the other is a glock-19 and my third gun is a paintball gun. Deleted by Lisa
Ok first of all, if it's a real AK47, give me the first few numbers of the serial number, tell me what symbols (numbers) are located on the gun and a picture.
Your Glock 19, what are the first 2 numbers of the serial?
Paintball, as someone who used to play in tournaments (speed ball) and was paid as a professional for speedball tourneys, that's highly irresponsible and hurts the sport of paintball as a whole by you engaging in "paintball drivebys", not something to joke about. We do not encourage violence, only self defense.
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If it is a "true" ak47 as you put it, and full automatic, you are in possession of a unregistered machine gun which is a mandatory 10 year prison term, your father also committed a felony by smuggling it back into the US. I wouldn't brag about that on a public forum unless you want the ATF banging on your door, i'm sure they snoop around.
Your not understanding what i'm saying, your responsible for your own actions, but don't drag down the rest of the organization via "guilt by association", I won't condone your methods (if your serious).
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I just banned Immortal. He seemed like a violent nut job.
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I just banned Immortal. He seemed like a violent nut job.
The few post he has up are not good. I see you had to delete parts of the posts for content. You made the right decision.
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I just banned Immortal. He seemed like a violent nut job.
I never heard of him. Did you warn him?
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me neither, when he join ?
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He joined a few days ago. His posts were so outrageous that I just banned him outright. We can't have members writing about how they enjoy killing a bunch of random people. It's repulsive. And it detracts from our credibility.
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He joined a few days ago. His posts were so outrageous that I just banned him outright. We can't have members writing about how they enjoy killing a bunch of random people. It's repulsive. And it detracts from our credibility.
Boy, how did I miss that? :P
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good riddance to bad rubbish :)
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I am getting a rifle- Meir, can you PLEASE Im me. TY.
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Good for you Paulette.
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I am getting a rifle- Meir, can you PLEASE Im me. TY.
Good! O0
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I am getting a rifle- Meir, can you PLEASE Im me. TY.
You hunt?
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I am getting a rifle- Meir, can you PLEASE Im me. TY.
You hunt?
Guns aren't just for hunting ya know ;)
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I am getting a rifle- Meir, can you PLEASE Im me. TY.
You hunt?
Guns aren't just for hunting ya know ;)
Yeah I know but when people buy Rifles they get them to hunt
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I am getting a rifle- Meir, can you PLEASE Im me. TY.
You hunt?
Guns aren't just for hunting ya know ;)
Yeah I know but when people buy Rifles they get them to hunt
I don't hunt with my rifles, they are for if the SHTF.
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I am getting a rifle- Meir, can you PLEASE Im me. TY.
You hunt?
Guns aren't just for hunting ya know ;)
Yeah I know but when people buy Rifles they get them to hunt
I don't hunt with my rifles, they are for if the SHTF.
How many you have?
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I am getting a rifle- Meir, can you PLEASE Im me. TY.
You hunt?
Guns aren't just for hunting ya know ;)
Yeah I know but when people buy Rifles they get them to hunt
I don't hunt with my rifles, they are for if the SHTF.
How many you have?
At the moment, 3
FN FAL .308
IMI Galil 5.56
Rockriver Arms AR15
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I am getting a rifle- Meir, can you PLEASE Im me. TY.
You hunt?
Guns aren't just for hunting ya know ;)
Yeah I know but when people buy Rifles they get them to hunt
I don't hunt with my rifles, they are for if the SHTF.
How many you have?
At the moment, 3
FN FAL .308
IMI Galil 5.56
Rockriver Arms AR15
Not bad
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I am getting a rifle- Meir, can you PLEASE Im me. TY.
You hunt?
Guns aren't just for hunting ya know ;)
Yeah I know but when people buy Rifles they get them to hunt
I don't hunt with my rifles, they are for if the SHTF.
How many you have?
At the moment, 3
FN FAL .308
IMI Galil 5.56
Rockriver Arms AR15
NICE! O0
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Love those 308s!! If you are gonna pop somthing you want to make a big dent. O0
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Darn American Hero, is that the local gun shop or your bedroom closet?? You got me beat bad.
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Darn American Hero, is that the local gun shop or your bedroom closet?? You got me beat bad.
That is my cousins gun shop
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Looks like a bit of Heaven on Earth if you ask me. SWEET. God bless AMERICA and ISRAEL!!!!!
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Every God fearing AMERICAN and ISRAELI should have at least three weapons. All for personal away-from-home defense and of course home defense. I have a S&W Model 5906 9mm w/red dot scope. A Colt Sporter w/laser on order and 20 30 round mags. I have a 20 guage pump shotgun, Remington, Colt Model 1911 .45, Remington 700 w/fluted match barrel and bipod w/ 18x Ziess scope. Need an M14 to complete collection. And I do hunt, although the Sporter has yet to go hunting since the SHTF hasn't gone down yet. All are great anti-Jihad devices. God bless the 2nd Amendmant, AMERICA, and ISRAEL.
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Every G-d fearing AMERICAN and ISRAELI should have at least three weapons. All for personal away-from-home defense and of course home defense. I have a S&W Model 5906 9mm w/red dot scope. A Colt Sporter w/laser on order and 20 30 round mags. I have a 20 guage pump shotgun, Remington, Colt Model 1911 .45, Remington 700 w/fluted match barrel and bipod w/ 18x Ziess scope. Need an M14 to complete collection. And I do hunt, although the Sporter has yet to go hunting since the SHTF hasn't gone down yet. All are great anti-Jihad devices. G-d bless the 2nd Amendmant, AMERICA, and ISRAEL.
if we wish to live on free, then fight for freedom we must. to protect our loved ones from the muslim beast we must be armed. in times of uncertanty we must be prepared to fight so that we can keep peace.
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Everyone go and buy a handgun (at least). We bought a 40 callibur, semi-automatic, Smith and Wesson handgun. Its lightweight but powerful. This model is what most police officers use. Go to a trained professional for information on how to use it, load it, safety precautions, target practice. Respect it, but don't be afraid of it. The day may come when you will need it to defend your life........
Dirty Harry sold, and is still selling alot of guns with his movies Magnum Force. Safety is no joke though, it is Americans second Amendment right. Sales are up at gun shops, because people believe if Obama gets elected he will try and eliminate our rights and change the constitution......
D.S.
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i already own several rifles, and two handguns. O0
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My own guns. 8)
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This is my newest child I just picked up this week. This will be my CCW.
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This is my newest child I just picked up this week. This will be my CCW.
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NICE!! O0
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And what about mine guns? :P
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And what about mine guns? :P
One looks like a bb gun the other small one looks like a toy
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And what about mine guns? :P
One looks like a bb gun the other small one looks like a toy
Was about to say, looks like one of those walther CO2 pistols or airsoft gun.
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Hungarian, those are great. What type of guidelines or restrictions are there in Hungary for firearms? Do they have to be registered, do you need a license, can you have anything you want?
Thanks
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Not airsoft. One is CO2 pistol. :) Rifle is a own modified air rifle with double spring with special bullets. In Hungary we can buy just CO2 airpistol or rifle, if you have Hunter permit you can buy real rifles.
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Not airsoft. One is CO2 pistol. :) Rifle is a own modified air rifle with double spring with special bullets. In Hungary we can buy just CO2 airpistol or rifle, if you have Hunter permit you can buy real rifles.
That's a drag. >:(
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Yes, and if you are not policeman you can't have real pistol. >:( Just gas spray or gas pistol or CO2 and airguns. :'(
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Yes, and if you are not policeman you can't have real pistol. >:( Just gas spray or gas pistol or CO2 and airguns. :'(
gun control is rough all over we know how it feels
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Every American should own a gun Actually.
In fact every Human being should own one.
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Every American should own a gun Actually.
In fact every Human being should own one.
Not exactly.
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Every American should own a gun Actually.
In fact every Human being should own one.
Not exactly.
Then you support gun control?
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Every American should own a gun Actually.
In fact every Human being should own one.
Not exactly.
Then you support gun control?
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