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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: admin on June 21, 2008, 10:41:19 PM
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It's quite obvious that she's a Nazi from this post.
The lost of ones culture, self and identity is a huge problem the world is facing.
People are born in areas for a reason, G-d created many races, many cultures.
Why people chose to go against this is insane.
You are what you are, no matter how you think, you can't pretend to be something your not.
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It's quite obvious that she's a Nazi from this post.
The lost of ones culture, self and identity is a huge problem the world is facing.
People are born in areas for a reason, G-d created many races, many cultures.
Why people chose to go against this is insane.
You are what you are, no matter how you think, you can't pretend to be something your not.
I noticed that and immediately thought, another veiled racist comment from a white supremacist.
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I noticed it. It was sick and disgusting. They didn't even removed the images.
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Yacov, she is a white supremacist and she's also a vicious Jew hater.
http://www.StørmFrønt.org/forum/search.php?do=finduser&u=128515
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She is just plain sick
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Moshe married a cushite(ethiopian?)/very very dark, woman. (I imagine black). You can say he had bad taste but you can't say it was against G-d! The tenach doesn't criticise him for it or suggest it was bad.
Miriam is punished for laughing at her but that is besides the point.. In that post, the claim is only tha we should not mix.. The claim isn't that blacks are bad.
If we read between the lines, and we look in practice, then yes, it is getting at that. That's only reading between the lines though. It's not explicit.
There are some JTFers that have a racialist view..
That message posted by kiwi is racialism.. White and blacks and jews subscibing to it can live together. It screws up when soem of them decide they want to mix - angering the ruling racialists or militant racialists.
You could say it's not racist.. (since one could argue that fundamentally it's about preserving culture ) And even if it's about preserving an appearance.. I know alot of people that wouldn't want black children! Or aren't attracted to black women
The racialist view is a great danger to jews, because of jews that assimilate, or want to run for President or prime minister. It's no danger to strictly religious ghetto-ised jews who are only too happy that the gentiles don't want them to assimilate.
One can have some sympathy with people with this racialist view, particularly in the light of preserving cultures.. I heard a speech on youtube from a former BNP leader, the late john tyndall. Clearly an anti-semite, fan of Oswald Mosley..member of National Front.. But he made an interesting argument that without preservation of race, you have no preservation of culture, and when mixing races, you lose your culture.
I must say though.. clever jews have a knack for assimilating into whatever culture.. being more british than the british. Or even more english than the english..
In britain, one character thought of as the quintissential englishman , is Stephen Fry (a leftist anti israel homosexual, so beware. But fortunately he rarely talks politics or the other). A real genius, here he is.. in a very amusing segment of QI - a program he hosts. He's there in the center correcting a guy on his grammar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w-XQ6MVAsM
Then we have michael howard.. Totally assimilated into english culture, to a sick level.. His son is a bishop.
Self hating jews perhaps. But patriot british citizens in the extreme.
One rarely sees blacks assimilating into a good american culture.. But there is alan keyes.
These sicko jews , or a great black man like alan keyes, would not be accepted by racialists.. and in those exceptional instances, the racialists would be hard pressed to argue that mixing of them loses their culture. But they are special cases.
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The penguin fans over at the dog pound are sicker for actually enjoying this fiend.
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Moses didn't marry a black woman. Tzipora was a Midianit, not a Kushit.
a cushite from midian? maybe it's not so clear cut.
I think some identify cush with ethiopia, there may be other opinions on where it is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam
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Miriam and Aaron speak against Moses because: of the Cushite woman whom he had married:
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Zipporah is described as being a Cushite from Midian
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Also why many blacks claim the 'real Jews' were black.... An obvious lie.
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Wikipedia is not a Torah source. You can only understand this through Oral Torah. That's why the moron Anus-T wrote on Ask JTF that Moses married a schvartza.
Anus-T can go straight to Gehenom, but is it truly impossible that none of the great figures of the Bible had any African blood in them? I am not trying to claim that any did--but then again, none of us were around then to prove that they did or didn't!
Just a question...
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Wikipedia is not a Torah source. You can only understand this through Oral Torah. That's why the moron Anus-T wrote on Ask JTF that Moses married a schvartza.
Anus-T can go straight to Gehenom, but is it truly impossible that none of the great figures of the Bible had any African blood in them? I am not trying to claim that any did--but then again, none of us were around then to prove that they did or didn't!
Just a question...
Allen T Brandwunde in Hölle :::D
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He might like being in hell--he'd get to be united with all of his great role models such as Eichmann, Goebbels, Rohm, etc.
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Wikipedia is not a Torah source. You can only understand this through Oral Torah. That's why the moron Anus-T wrote on Ask JTF that Moses married a schvartza.
Anus-T can go straight to Gehenom, but is it truly impossible that none of the great figures of the Bible had any African blood in them? I am not trying to claim that any did--but then again, none of us were around then to prove that they did or didn't!
Just a question...
He's not necessarily a "great" figure, but Nimrod was black.
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He's not necessarily a "great" figure, but Nimrod was black.
How do we know this? How can any of us know what racial phenotype anyone in the Bible was?
Of course, it shouldn't matter at all. The only people who are preoccupied with race are Nazis and black baboons.
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I replied to her message saying it was clear it was a white supremacy message and it was deleted right away.
Isnt there some way to help those young men at kahane.org??
It is CLEAR- she is terrorizing them, she is bullying them, clearly they are educated, they can't fight this alone, she is a NAZI..her whole goal is to slaughter them- They are your brothers, you are going to have to help them, she is an ENEMY to ANY Jew.
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The fact that she attempted to post Chaim's address makes her a pursuer of Jewish blood. I believe that G-d will punish her severely for doing that if she continues to behave in such an evil manner. I don't believe that G-d takes such things lightly.
Tina I thought you were good and I really believed in you and stood up for you a while back. I even cried the other night because of how disappointed I was that the friendship I thought I had with you turned out to be false, and that I felt so very foolish for having trusted you. I am very disappointed but I will pray for you to change and go onto a righteous path. It's not healthy for you either to hold so much hatred.
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I replied to her message saying it was clear it was a white supremacy message and it was deleted right away.
Isnt there some way to help those young men at kahane.org??
It is CLEAR- she is terrorizing them, she is bullying them, clearly they are educated, they can't fight this alone, she is a NAZI..her whole goal is to slaughter them- They are your brothers, you are going to have to help them, she is an ENEMY to ANY Jew.
Before I saw how the people over at that other forum were handling (or not handling, as it seems) this problem, I admit I believed in a Jewish stereotype, that all Jews were innately intelligent, whether they used that gift for good (like Chaim) or for evil (like Alan Colmes). Now I see that not all Jews fit that stereotype. Other forum, thanks for helping me learn that stereotypes are stupid O0
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I replied to her message saying it was clear it was a white supremacy message and it was deleted right away.
Isnt there some way to help those young men at kahane.org??
It is CLEAR- she is terrorizing them, she is bullying them, clearly they are educated, they can't fight this alone, she is a NAZI..her whole goal is to slaughter them- They are your brothers, you are going to have to help them, she is an ENEMY to ANY Jew.
Before I saw how the people over at Kahane.org were handling (or not handling, as it seems) this problem, I admit I believed in a Jewish stereotype, that all Jews were innately intelligent, whether they used that gift for good (like Chaim) or for evil (like Alan Colmes). Now I see that not all Jews fit that stereotype. Kahane.org, thanks for helping me learn that stereotypes are stupid O0
Well the leader of that splinter is an illiterate turd putz who doesn't speak either English or Hebrew. He is just a pile of garbage in a large sweaty package.
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You will see on the bottom of your posts here that I modified something. The only thing that I modified was Yacov putting the address for the traitor forum in the title. I did not change anything that any of our members wrote in their posts.
We do not want the address of any traitor forum mentioned here.
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You will see on the bottom of your posts here that I modified something. The only thing that I modified was Yacov putting the address for the traitor forum in the title. I did not change anything that any of our members wrote in their posts.
We do not want the address of any traitor forum mentioned here.
I fixed my post.
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I agree, the splinter informers should not be promoted here.
Also Chaim, I sent you a PM with important info regarding the project I was to work on. Can you please look at it and provide me with further info.
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Moses didn't marry a black woman. Tzipora was a Midianit, not a Kushit.
a cushite from midian? maybe it's not so clear cut.
I think some identify cush with ethiopia, there may be other opinions on where it is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam
"
Miriam and Aaron speak against Moses because: of the Cushite woman whom he had married:
..
Zipporah is described as being a Cushite from Midian
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Wikipedia is not a Torah source. You can only understand this through Oral Torah. That's why the moron Anus-T wrote on Ask JTF that Moses married a schvartza.
I suspect wikipedia was quoting tenach.. and with some more searching I could have found the verses.
But you did not provide a torah reference either..
Anyhow, here is a verse (Numbers 12:1 as can be seen looking at the URL)
http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c.pl?book=Num&chapter=12&verse=1&version=KJV#11
the text refers to the ethiopian woman moses married.
You can't ignore pshat - plain meaning of the text.
And also, miriam called the woman he married a cushite
OTOH,
In your favour, I think the plain meaning also says tzipporah was the daughter of a midianite .
so even if she was born in cush herself, she prob wouldn't have been that black..
this blog has an article in june, on the front page of the blog that gives a few answers from midrash
http://rabbiarthursegal.blogspot.com/
or midrash + pshat..
one pshat explanation offered, is that it was referring to another woman he married. that is supported by a midrash too, that he married a black queen, who he never had sex with.
His article doesn't really mention sources though.
so it's very likely I suppose, that tzipporah was a midianite. Her father was a midianite priest
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While i agree with everyone here that Kiwi is a nazi, I take offense to think someone would consider separatist views as racist, I am a racialist and separatist but I am Jewish. I don't believe in mixing but that's up to the individual.