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Title: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 12:34:29 PM
What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?

Mine is "Sozialsauger" Social-soaker or Transferleistungsempfänger "aid money receiver" [The English translation is not so funny like the original]  ;D

Parasites is also great  :::D

Here is the parade:

(http://www.dradio.de/images/18082/landscape/)

The lazy unemployed husband (Report in the radio)  ::)


(http://www.ard.de/-/id=562796/property=detail/width=170/height=140/pubVersion=3/17r7z05/index.jpg)

Interview with young Muslimes. Reporter: What will you pick for a job? Youths: Later I will live on welfare. >:(


(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa194/taeter02/penner_sucht_arbeit.jpg)

Bummer  is locking seriously for a job.  :o

(http://www.utopia-club.de/Archiv/Frank/Penner.jpg)

This is the "captain". He drives the big ships, because he has licence A C + D. But in the moment he has anchored in front of the Penny-discounter in Hamburg St. Pauli.  :::D


(http://www.winkelried.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/penner.jpg) 

Unknown bummer  ;)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 01:30:37 PM
All people on welfare have to work now, unless they have disabilities....there is also a 5 year limit on getting any assistance.

So you are posting this in error.

Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Scriabin on July 18, 2008, 01:33:42 PM
Drek-producing oxygen wasters.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 01:35:51 PM
Huh, maybe you should ask the government if you could kill all of them?  >:(
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 01:45:43 PM
I hope you are never put into the position where you need to receive welfare......I hope things always go very very good for you. :-[

What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?

Mine is "Sozialsauger" Social-soaker or Transferleistungsempfänger "aid money receiver" [The English translation is not so funny like the original]  ;D

Parasites is also great  :::D

Here is the parade:

(http://www.dradio.de/images/18082/landscape/)

The lazy unemployed husband (Report in the radio)  ::)


(http://www.ard.de/-/id=562796/property=detail/width=170/height=140/pubVersion=3/17r7z05/index.jpg)

Interview with young Muslimes. Reporter: What will you pick for a job? Youths: Later I will live on welfare. >:(


(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa194/taeter02/penner_sucht_arbeit.jpg)

Bummer  is locking seriously for a job.  :o

(http://www.utopia-club.de/Archiv/Frank/Penner.jpg)

This is the "captain". He drives the big ships, because he has licence A C + D. But in the moment he has anchored in front of the Penny-discounter in Hamburg St. Pauli.  :::D


(http://www.winkelried.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/penner.jpg) 

Unknown bummer  ;)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: AsheDina on July 18, 2008, 01:49:48 PM
Huh, maybe you should ask the government if you could kill all of them?  >:(

 Well, now now now.. I have paid MORE than my share for people that need it, and got ZERO in return. I LIKE to give, when I LIKE to give, NOT when it is TAKEN from me. When I look at my Social Security Statement, I get pretty MAD at how MUCH I have GIVEN WITHOUT MY permission. IT IS PAYBACK TIME. I wouldnt want people that have mooched off of the govt gone, I want MY $$$$ back now. I have paid close to  $400,000 in my 22-24 yrs of working. I get TIRED of looking at checks that are ALMOST 40% 'given' to the govt to take care of people that I DONT EVEN LIKE.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 01:53:29 PM
I see, so every single person on welfare is just a moocher? They changed the laws now.....if someone needs to get social security DISABILITY that they have PAID INTO WHILE WORKING FOR YEARS AND YEARS and they are unable to work and need to be on welfare, are they just MOOCHER TOO??  ???

just curious...

Huh, maybe you should ask the government if you could kill all of them?  >:(

 Well, now now now.. I have paid MORE than my share for people that need it, and got ZERO in return. I LIKE to give, when I LIKE to give, NOT when it is TAKEN from me. When I look at my Social Security Statement, I get pretty MAD at how MUCH I have GIVEN WITHOUT MY permission. IT IS PAYBACK TIME. I wouldnt want people that have mooched off of the govt gone, I want MY $$$$ back now. I have paid close to  $400,000 in my 22-24 yrs of working. I get TIRED of looking at checks that are ALMOST 40% 'given' to the govt to take care of people that I DONT EVEN LIKE.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: mord on July 18, 2008, 01:53:53 PM
One guy in the blue pants looks like a midget thee last guy looks like qaddafi :o ???
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: mord on July 18, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
I see, so every single person on welfare is just a moocher? They changed the laws now.....if someone needs to get social security DISABILITY that they have PAID INTO WHILE WORKING FOR YEARS AND YEARS and they are unable to work and need to be on welfare, are they just MOOCHER TOO??  ???

just curious...

Huh, maybe you should ask the government if you could kill all of them?  >:(

 Well, now now now.. I have paid MORE than my share for people that need it, and got ZERO in return. I LIKE to give, when I LIKE to give, NOT when it is TAKEN from me. When I look at my Social Security Statement, I get pretty MAD at how MUCH I have GIVEN WITHOUT MY permission. IT IS PAYBACK TIME. I wouldnt want people that have mooched off of the govt gone, I want MY $$$$ back now. I have paid close to  $400,000 in my 22-24 yrs of working. I get TIRED of looking at checks that are ALMOST 40% 'given' to the govt to take care of people that I DONT EVEN LIKE.
Welfare isn't disability or social security
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Sarah on July 18, 2008, 01:56:49 PM
I wouldn't call people who receive welfare names, because although there are lazy bums out there, there are a proportionate amount of people who are in need of help.....we can speak in disgust of them however if we were to live in there situation, i'm sure it'd be a hell of a rough time.

Enough money for survival should be granted, in order to push able people to work. Over here you find the people on benefits with designer clothes, the latest gadgets etc...not having to pay council tax etc Whereas the middle class folk, work themselves rigid, just to keep a household, mortgage/rent satisfied. Not very fair.

Welfare attracts immigrants too.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: AsheDina on July 18, 2008, 02:05:13 PM
Hanna, I will be 44 years old, I know the difference btwn people that collect their OWN disability when they are unwell, vs. people that HAVE mooched- BTW... I live in Cali- So I DO pay- CONSTANTLY for people that do NOT belong here. I have paid FOR THEM, consistantly since I am 15 yrs old. You should be ANGRY about this too.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 02:13:21 PM
All people on welfare have to work now, unless they have disabilities....there is also a 5 year limit on getting any assistance.

So you are posting this in error.



There are two answers to your point.

1. I think the 5 year limit is only in the USA. But the rest of the civilized world inclusive Israel is another bad story.

2. If the Democrats have won the election, they will use welfare (like all leftists) as an instrument to stay in power. Actually they will buy votes with it from lazy  people and those who are hostile of learning like Muslimes and other groups.

Plus I see this welfare soaking creatures every day. Bah

I will call them all kind of names with good conscience.  8)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: AsheDina on July 18, 2008, 02:15:26 PM
I see, so every single person on welfare is just a moocher? They changed the laws now.....if someone needs to get social security DISABILITY that they have PAID INTO WHILE WORKING FOR YEARS AND YEARS and they are unable to work and need to be on welfare, are they just MOOCHER TOO??  ???

just curious...

Huh, maybe you should ask the government if you could kill all of them?  >:(

 Well, now now now.. I have paid MORE than my share for people that need it, and got ZERO in return. I LIKE to give, when I LIKE to give, NOT when it is TAKEN from me. When I look at my Social Security Statement, I get pretty MAD at how MUCH I have GIVEN WITHOUT MY permission. IT IS PAYBACK TIME. I wouldnt want people that have mooched off of the govt gone, I want MY $$$$ back now. I have paid close to  $400,000 in my 22-24 yrs of working. I get TIRED of looking at checks that are ALMOST 40% 'given' to the govt to take care of people that I DONT EVEN LIKE.
Welfare isn't disability or social security

 Mord- I live in CALIFORNIA- we know FULLY well what these people do- it IS called "AFDC". A POLITE term for LEECHES from other countries, that come HERE and TAKE MY $$$. All by MY Treasonous Govt.  WIC is ALSO supported by ME. Even though I DONT KNOW the lady who had the kid.
  Until recent- (since CA is BK) all that a drug addict had to do, was go into an AFDC office and say: I CANT GET OFF OF DRUGS, he was they given a check (paid for by ME the taxpayers) b/c he CANT stop doing drugs.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: mord on July 18, 2008, 02:18:35 PM
I see, so every single person on welfare is just a moocher? They changed the laws now.....if someone needs to get social security DISABILITY that they have PAID INTO WHILE WORKING FOR YEARS AND YEARS and they are unable to work and need to be on welfare, are they just MOOCHER TOO??  ???

just curious...

Huh, maybe you should ask the government if you could kill all of them?  >:(

 Well, now now now.. I have paid MORE than my share for people that need it, and got ZERO in return. I LIKE to give, when I LIKE to give, NOT when it is TAKEN from me. When I look at my Social Security Statement, I get pretty MAD at how MUCH I have GIVEN WITHOUT MY permission. IT IS PAYBACK TIME. I wouldnt want people that have mooched off of the govt gone, I want MY $$$$ back now. I have paid close to  $400,000 in my 22-24 yrs of working. I get TIRED of looking at checks that are ALMOST 40% 'given' to the govt to take care of people that I DONT EVEN LIKE.
Welfare isn't disability or social security

 Mord- I live in CALIFORNIA- we know FULLY well what these people do- it IS called "AFDC". A POLITE term for LEECHES from other countries, that come HERE and TAKE MY $$$. All by MY Treasonous Govt.  WIC is ALSO supported by ME. Even though I DONT KNOW the lady who had the kid.
  Until recent- (since CA is BK) all that a drug addict had to do, was go into an AFDC office and say: I CANT GET OFF OF DRUGS, he was they given a check (paid for by ME the taxpayers) b/c he CANT stop doing drugs.
Well you have that Governor whats his name again ?oh  Arnold Schwazenegger Kennedy ;D ;D
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: AsheDina on July 18, 2008, 02:21:35 PM
Come on now- this almost $400,000- that I have paid will NOT come back to me, and people actually STICK UP For this CRAP? GET A JOB CLOWN Work at burger king- DO WHATEVER- but STOP being LEECHES. I have collected my OWN disability ONE time. ONCE, when I WAS SICK.  I was raised to GO TO WORK. We would not even be in the shape we are- if it were not for BLOODY BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS who believe that I SHOULD "give" my HARD earned $$$$ to lowlifes that REFUSE to work- oh and that college deal- screw it- PAY FOR YOUR OWN college- I did.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 02:22:13 PM
I wouldn't call people who receive welfare names, because although there are lazy bums out there, there are a proportionate amount of people who are in need of help.....we can speak in disgust of them however if we were to live in there situation, i'm sure it'd be a hell of a rough time.

Enough money for survival should be granted, in order to push able people to work. Over here you find the people on benefits with designer clothes, the latest gadgets etc...not having to pay council tax etc Whereas the middle class folk, work themselves rigid, just to keep a household, mortgage/rent satisfied. Not very fair.

Welfare attracts immigrants too.


I think it is the main cause for Muslimes to come to Europe. In my street you can watch it daily.

If a house is wrecked and the rent the owner can get is going down to a certain level (The level the town pays for welfare receivers) either Muslimes or German alcoholics move in.

In a righteous house the light goes on  at 5 to 7 am. Where the welfare soakers live you can see the    jalousie going up at lunch-time. ::)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: mord on July 18, 2008, 02:25:21 PM
I wouldn't call people who receive welfare names, because although there are lazy bums out there, there are a proportionate amount of people who are in need of help.....we can speak in disgust of them however if we were to live in there situation, i'm sure it'd be a hell of a rough time.

Enough money for survival should be granted, in order to push able people to work. Over here you find the people on benefits with designer clothes, the latest gadgets etc...not having to pay council tax etc Whereas the middle class folk, work themselves rigid, just to keep a household, mortgage/rent satisfied. Not very fair.

Welfare attracts immigrants too.


I think it is the main cause for Muslimes to come to Europe. In my street you can watch it daily.

If a house is wrecked and the rent the owner can get is going down to a certain level (The level the town pays for welfare receivers) either Muslimes or German alcoholics move in.

In a righteous house the light goes on  at 5 to 7 am. Where the welfare soakers live you can see the    jalousie going up at lunch-time. ::)
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In a righteous house the light goes on  at 5 to 7 am. Where the welfare soakers live you can see the    jalousie going up at lunch-time
thats true here as well :-\
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 02:31:05 PM
The problem is, that we have to pay for their lifestyle.

For my country is true, that the vast majority of Muslimes are welfare receivers. They can afford through welfare very big families, because the natural economic conditions are no more valid for them. The opposite is true. For every new child the gouvernment gives them more money.

The socialists force us to pay for the islamization of our countries. This is truly evil.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 02:36:39 PM
You don't understand....

In order to get disability you have to fight for YEARS for it. If you happen to stay alive, they finally give it to you, every year at least 8,000 people DIE while trying to get social security.

What are people supposed to live on while fighting for years for it?

Welfare.

Or else rob a bank or live on the streets or borrow money from all their friends and family members to survive, (which alot don't do) so welfare is the answer.....unless they want to go into prostitution or drug dealing, then I guess welfare would not be needed then.

I see, so every single person on welfare is just a moocher? They changed the laws now.....if someone needs to get social security DISABILITY that they have PAID INTO WHILE WORKING FOR YEARS AND YEARS and they are unable to work and need to be on welfare, are they just MOOCHER TOO??  ???

just curious...

Huh, maybe you should ask the government if you could kill all of them?  >:(

 Well, now now now.. I have paid MORE than my share for people that need it, and got ZERO in return. I LIKE to give, when I LIKE to give, NOT when it is TAKEN from me. When I look at my Social Security Statement, I get pretty MAD at how MUCH I have GIVEN WITHOUT MY permission. IT IS PAYBACK TIME. I wouldnt want people that have mooched off of the govt gone, I want MY $$$$ back now. I have paid close to  $400,000 in my 22-24 yrs of working. I get TIRED of looking at checks that are ALMOST 40% 'given' to the govt to take care of people that I DONT EVEN LIKE.
Welfare isn't disability or social security
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 02:41:25 PM
Welfare causes the main problems for our societies today.

Even for people who have "disability" are only three righteous precautions:

1. Personal savings

2. The family

3. Alms of the church or synagoge community the subject belongs to

Hannah!!! You can't take the whole society in accountability for personal problems. This is robbery not righteous.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 02:42:36 PM
Some days I get up at 3:30am, is that good enough?
I wouldn't call people who receive welfare names, because although there are lazy bums out there, there are a proportionate amount of people who are in need of help.....we can speak in disgust of them however if we were to live in there situation, i'm sure it'd be a hell of a rough time.

Enough money for survival should be granted, in order to push able people to work. Over here you find the people on benefits with designer clothes, the latest gadgets etc...not having to pay council tax etc Whereas the middle class folk, work themselves rigid, just to keep a household, mortgage/rent satisfied. Not very fair.

Welfare attracts immigrants too.


I think it is the main cause for Muslimes to come to Europe. In my street you can watch it daily.

If a house is wrecked and the rent the owner can get is going down to a certain level (The level the town pays for welfare receivers) either Muslimes or German alcoholics move in.

In a righteous house the light goes on  at 5 to 7 am. Where the welfare soakers live you can see the    jalousie going up at lunch-time. ::)
Quote
In a righteous house the light goes on  at 5 to 7 am. Where the welfare soakers live you can see the    jalousie going up at lunch-time
thats true here as well :-\
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Scriabin on July 18, 2008, 02:53:08 PM
Hannah, there are always exceptions.

People that are truly injured on the job deserve compensation.  There are other examples, too.

Unfortunately, an overwhelming number of people abuse the system.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 02:53:26 PM
 :D :D :D :D ???

 :::D :::D :::D
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 02:55:10 PM
No I am from Lower Saxony in Northern Germany. This is near the Netherlands.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 02:58:32 PM
Ok, I guess things are really a mess there too.......

 :::D

My apologies...... :-[

No I am from Lower Saxony in Northern Germany. This is near the Netherlands.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: mord on July 18, 2008, 03:00:33 PM
It's messed up all over the world U.S. Germany ,Netherlands ,France the U.K. all over
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Scriabin on July 18, 2008, 03:01:49 PM
Hannah, there are always exceptions.

People that are truly injured on the job deserve compensation.  There are other examples, too.

Unfortunately, an overwhelming number of people abuse the system.
Yes, which is why they treat you like a criminal while you are trying to get your claims approved..... :o

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 03:04:45 PM
Are you talking to me?



Hannah, there are always exceptions.

People that are truly injured on the job deserve compensation.  There are other examples, too.

Unfortunately, an overwhelming number of people abuse the system.
Yes, which is why they treat you like a criminal while you are trying to get your claims approved..... :o

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: MasterWolf1 on July 18, 2008, 03:11:57 PM
Bloodsucking louses

Parasitic Rodents
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Scriabin on July 18, 2008, 03:28:43 PM
Are you talking to me?

YES!
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: AsheDina on July 18, 2008, 03:33:51 PM
You don't understand....

In order to get disability you have to fight for YEARS for it. If you happen to stay alive, they finally give it to you, every year at least 8,000 people DIE while trying to get social security.

What are people supposed to live on while fighting for years for it?

Welfare.

Or else rob a bank or live on the streets or borrow money from all their friends and family members to survive, (which alot don't do) so welfare is the answer.....unless they want to go into prostitution or drug dealing, then I guess welfare would not be needed then.

I see, so every single person on welfare is just a moocher? They changed the laws now.....if someone needs to get social security DISABILITY that they have PAID INTO WHILE WORKING FOR YEARS AND YEARS and they are unable to work and need to be on welfare, are they just MOOCHER TOO??  ???

just curious...

Huh, maybe you should ask the government if you could kill all of them?  >:(

 Well, now now now.. I have paid MORE than my share for people that need it, and got ZERO in return. I LIKE to give, when I LIKE to give, NOT when it is TAKEN from me. When I look at my Social Security Statement, I get pretty MAD at how MUCH I have GIVEN WITHOUT MY permission. IT IS PAYBACK TIME. I wouldnt want people that have mooched off of the govt gone, I want MY $$$$ back now. I have paid close to  $400,000 in my 22-24 yrs of working. I get TIRED of looking at checks that are ALMOST 40% 'given' to the govt to take care of people that I DONT EVEN LIKE.
Welfare isn't disability or social security

  This is NOT FACT, if one can prove that they need disability (and people that have back problems, LIE, andthere is NO WAY to PROVE IT) They get YOUR MONEY- YOU YOUR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 Why do people INCESSIVELY feel SORRY for LIARS? There are programs and places of Emplyment- MANY MANY MANY- that HAVE to hire people that are 100% DISABLED.
  NO MORE OF MY $. And NO they do NOT have to work for 8 years, they DO NOT.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 03:46:41 PM
IMO the best solution would be for the states to abolish any kind of tranfers.

I agree this will be hard for a lot of people, but how much people will be really free in the natural meaning of free.

How much more money could the hard working people keep? Our religious communities and JTF would have an increase of donations.

We could afford to put our children in private schools.

And we could give charity freely and we will not be forced by the gouvernment.

There is so much good that will come to our communities through such a decision.

It will really be a blessing.  :)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 03:47:46 PM
Here is just one person's horror story, I can provide even more.....

http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html (http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html)

Like I said, I had to fight 7 years and go before four judges, the next to last judge I had called me names, and publicly humiliated me......made a bunch of things that weren't true in my denial.....

Are you talking to me?

YES!
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: AsheDina on July 18, 2008, 03:50:46 PM
Here is just one person's horror story, I can provide even more.....

http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html (http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html)

Like I said, I had to fight 7 years and go before four judges, the next to last judge I had called me names, and publicly humiliated me......made a bunch of things that weren't true in my denial.....

Are you talking to me?

YES!

  Hanna, I UNDERSTAND YOUR position, however, you cannot BLINDLY just be 100% FOR IT. Your $$ will run OUT- who do you think pays after that? The Taxpayer. Seeing BOTH sides is what is needed.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 03:57:17 PM
Excuse me, but I worked for over 30 years and PAID INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM...if I get injured and need the money, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT.....
Here is a petition, in case anyone would want to sign it, we are attempting to get social security reformed (no, not GW Bush's plan).
Instead of complaining about it, how about demanding reform??????
Im doing what I can in the midst of trying to survive and stay alive......Ive paid taxes for years......

My social security is not supposed to RUN OUT....once you hit retirement age, it transers to regular social security...what are you talking about????  :(



http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html)

Here is just one person's horror story, I can provide even more.....

http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html (http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html)

Like I said, I had to fight 7 years and go before four judges, the next to last judge I had called me names, and publicly humiliated me......made a bunch of things that weren't true in my denial.....

Are you talking to me?

YES!

  Hanna, I UNDERSTAND YOUR position, however, you cannot BLINDLY just be 100% FOR IT. Your $$ will run OUT- who do you think pays after that? The Taxpayer. Seeing BOTH sides is what is needed.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 04:03:56 PM
Excuse me, but I worked for over 30 years and PAID INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM...if I get injured and need the money, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT.....
Here is a petition, in case anyone would want to sign it, we are attempting to get social security reformed (no, not GW Bush's plan).
Instead of complaining about it, how about demanding reform??????
Im doing what I can in the midst of trying to survive and stay alive......Ive paid taxes for years......



http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html)

Here is just one person's horror story, I can provide even more.....

http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html (http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html)

Like I said, I had to fight 7 years and go before four judges, the next to last judge I had called me names, and publicly humiliated me......made a bunch of things that weren't true in my denial.....

Are you talking to me?

YES!

  Hanna, I UNDERSTAND YOUR position, however, you cannot BLINDLY just be 100% FOR IT. Your $$ will run OUT- who do you think pays after that? The Taxpayer. Seeing BOTH sides is what is needed.

Hannah, of course we must find an interim solution. I could think of paying the people their paid money back inclusive a moderate interest loan, of course less of what they received.

But the goal must be to abolish any kind of welfare.

This is the righteous way of free men and women.

We should trust first in god and second in our families and third in our brethren in faith. This is the natural way. :)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 04:08:27 PM
Yes, ok, I totally agree with you....... :)

I went to several churchs and they all told me to just go get on welfare....

I don't think that this is right......

Here in America, the church's don't help for the most part, they expect you to go get on welfare.

So, I agree with you.....

If it weren't for the grace of G-d, I would be dead right now.

He has protected and sustained me.......!!! And given me the strength to keep on going.......

 :)

Excuse me, but I worked for over 30 years and PAID INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM...if I get injured and need the money, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT.....
Here is a petition, in case anyone would want to sign it, we are attempting to get social security reformed (no, not GW Bush's plan).
Instead of complaining about it, how about demanding reform??????
Im doing what I can in the midst of trying to survive and stay alive......Ive paid taxes for years......



http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html)

Here is just one person's horror story, I can provide even more.....

http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html (http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html)

Like I said, I had to fight 7 years and go before four judges, the next to last judge I had called me names, and publicly humiliated me......made a bunch of things that weren't true in my denial.....

Are you talking to me?

YES!

  Hanna, I UNDERSTAND YOUR position, however, you cannot BLINDLY just be 100% FOR IT. Your $$ will run OUT- who do you think pays after that? The Taxpayer. Seeing BOTH sides is what is needed.

Hannah, of course we must find an interim solution. I could think of paying the people their paid money back inclusive a moderate interest loan, of course less of what they received.

But the goal must be to abolish any kind of welfare.

This is the righteous way of free men and women.

We should trust first in G-d and second in our families and third in our brethren in faith. This is the natural way. :)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 04:11:14 PM
 :)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 04:12:13 PM
Maybe one day I shall write a book about it....

 :)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: AsheDina on July 18, 2008, 04:12:34 PM
Yes, ok, I totally agree with you....... :)

I went to several churchs and they all told me to just go get on welfare....

I don't think that this is right......

Here in America, the church's don't help for the most part, they expect you to go get on welfare.

So, I agree with you.....

If it weren't for the grace of G-d, I would be dead right now.

He has protected and sustained me.......!!! And given me the strength to keep on going.......

 :)

Excuse me, but I worked for over 30 years and PAID INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM...if I get injured and need the money, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT.....
Here is a petition, in case anyone would want to sign it, we are attempting to get social security reformed (no, not GW Bush's plan).
Instead of complaining about it, how about demanding reform??????
Im doing what I can in the midst of trying to survive and stay alive......Ive paid taxes for years......



http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html)

Here is just one person's horror story, I can provide even more.....

http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html (http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html)

Like I said, I had to fight 7 years and go before four judges, the next to last judge I had called me names, and publicly humiliated me......made a bunch of things that weren't true in my denial.....

Are you talking to me?

YES!

  Hanna, I UNDERSTAND YOUR position, however, you cannot BLINDLY just be 100% FOR IT. Your $$ will run OUT- who do you think pays after that? The Taxpayer. Seeing BOTH sides is what is needed.

Hannah, of course we must find an interim solution. I could think of paying the people their paid money back inclusive a moderate interest loan, of course less of what they received.

But the goal must be to abolish any kind of welfare.

This is the righteous way of free men and women.

We should trust first in G-d and second in our families and third in our brethren in faith. This is the natural way. :)

  Hanna- the church in America has FAILED miserbly, very terrible. Is it ANY wonder WHY this nation is falling apart?
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 04:14:54 PM
Paulette, I think we Christians have to go back to the time of the reformation. Do you know the theory of Oswald Spengler?
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: AsheDina on July 18, 2008, 04:21:46 PM
 No, I am an UNEDUCATED Jew- I read the NT though, and CONTRARY to OTHER people on this forum, christians should READ it, and abide by it.  Orthodox Jewish people (Gd BLESS them, BTW) believe different, BUT this IS in FACT-  USA, a nation built on christian values, and christians do NOT abide by their own book. If they would, we would DEF NOT be in this terrible shape. NOBODY says that people "must" believe in the 'savior' of the NT- however, pretty strong words are in there about being charitable, loving, giving, etc.. I think it is time for SERIOUS reflection, with christians, respectably.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 04:24:35 PM
No, I am an UNEDUCATED Jew- I read the NT though, and CONTRARY to OTHER people on this forum, christians should READ it, and abide by it.  Orthodox Jewish people (Gd BLESS them, BTW) believe different, BUT this IS in FACT-  USA, a nation built on christian values, and christians do NOT abide by their own book. If they would, we would DEF NOT be in this terrible shape. NOBODY says that people "must" believe in the 'savior' of the NT- however, pretty strong words are in there about being charitable, loving, giving, etc.. I think it is time for SERIOUS reflection.

Oh sorry. I didn't know you are Jewish. I apologize.  :)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 04:28:12 PM
Oswald Spengler wrote about the start and the end of civilizations. He found out that there are different periodes in every civilization.

Read here (It is no Christian stuff, but philosophic and scientific):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Spengler

His main work was "The Decline of the West":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_West
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: AsheDina on July 18, 2008, 04:30:43 PM
No, I am an UNEDUCATED Jew- I read the NT though, and CONTRARY to OTHER people on this forum, christians should READ it, and abide by it.  Orthodox Jewish people (Gd BLESS them, BTW) believe different, BUT this IS in FACT-  USA, a nation built on christian values, and christians do NOT abide by their own book. If they would, we would DEF NOT be in this terrible shape. NOBODY says that people "must" believe in the 'savior' of the NT- however, pretty strong words are in there about being charitable, loving, giving, etc.. I think it is time for SERIOUS reflection.

Oh sorry. I didn't know you are Jewish. I apologize.  :)


 No- I am a maverick, I have to say, I am just Paulette. Gd made me a little diff. Unfortuntely, My family suffered forced indoctrination (Portuguese) so, we have too many faiths in my family, it is rather confusing. Plus, I look at this as a conservative forum more than anything. I am not Orthodox, so I am a backslider I guess.  But I would challenge ANYONE on MY LOVE for God. I LOVE Gd, BIGTIME. There is NOTHING else for me, but I do NOT force ANYONE to 'believe'. I do wish that people had the passion I have though, for Gd AND country, but they DONT.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Ulli on July 18, 2008, 04:47:26 PM
I understand.

I have found an English translation of his work:

http://www.duke.edu/~aparks/Spengler.html
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 06:28:16 PM
YES, you are absolutely correct...... O0

This is very true...I could write a book about it.... 8)

Yes, ok, I totally agree with you....... :)

I went to several churchs and they all told me to just go get on welfare....

I don't think that this is right......

Here in America, the church's don't help for the most part, they expect you to go get on welfare.

So, I agree with you.....

If it weren't for the grace of G-d, I would be dead right now.

He has protected and sustained me.......!!! And given me the strength to keep on going.......

 :)

Excuse me, but I worked for over 30 years and PAID INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM...if I get injured and need the money, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT.....
Here is a petition, in case anyone would want to sign it, we are attempting to get social security reformed (no, not GW Bush's plan).
Instead of complaining about it, how about demanding reform??????
Im doing what I can in the midst of trying to survive and stay alive......Ive paid taxes for years......



http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html)

Here is just one person's horror story, I can provide even more.....

http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html (http://www.frontiernet.net/~lindaf1/SOCIALSECURITYDISABILITYNIGHTMARE.html)

Like I said, I had to fight 7 years and go before four judges, the next to last judge I had called me names, and publicly humiliated me......made a bunch of things that weren't true in my denial.....

Are you talking to me?

YES!

  Hanna, I UNDERSTAND YOUR position, however, you cannot BLINDLY just be 100% FOR IT. Your $$ will run OUT- who do you think pays after that? The Taxpayer. Seeing BOTH sides is what is needed.

Hannah, of course we must find an interim solution. I could think of paying the people their paid money back inclusive a moderate interest loan, of course less of what they received.

But the goal must be to abolish any kind of welfare.

This is the righteous way of free men and women.

We should trust first in G-d and second in our families and third in our brethren in faith. This is the natural way. :)

  Hanna- the church in America has FAILED miserbly, very terrible. Is it ANY wonder WHY this nation is falling apart?
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 06:32:38 PM
Ive always been bit of a Maverick too....!!!!  O0
No, I am an UNEDUCATED Jew- I read the NT though, and CONTRARY to OTHER people on this forum, christians should READ it, and abide by it.  Orthodox Jewish people (Gd BLESS them, BTW) believe different, BUT this IS in FACT-  USA, a nation built on christian values, and christians do NOT abide by their own book. If they would, we would DEF NOT be in this terrible shape. NOBODY says that people "must" believe in the 'savior' of the NT- however, pretty strong words are in there about being charitable, loving, giving, etc.. I think it is time for SERIOUS reflection.

Oh sorry. I didn't know you are Jewish. I apologize.  :)


 No- I am a maverick, I have to say, I am just Paulette. Gd made me a little diff. Unfortuntely, My family suffered forced indoctrination (Portuguese) so, we have too many faiths in my family, it is rather confusing. Plus, I look at this as a conservative forum more than anything. I am not Orthodox, so I am a backslider I guess.  But I would challenge ANYONE on MY LOVE for G-d. I LOVE Gd, BIGTIME. There is NOTHING else for me, but I do NOT force ANYONE to 'believe'. I do wish that people had the passion I have though, for Gd AND country, but they DONT.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 06:33:45 PM
Everything is just such a mess, isn't it?????

 :'(

I NEED TO BUY A CAVE TO LIVE IN.......

 :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D

(like David did).
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: nopeaceforland on July 18, 2008, 06:33:53 PM
I call them Clintons.

Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 18, 2008, 08:44:19 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
I call them Clintons.


Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Rubystars on July 19, 2008, 09:23:52 PM
I have a word for them that I probably am not allowed to use on the forum, but it sounds like negro.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: cjd on July 19, 2008, 09:36:40 PM
I have a word for them that I probably am not allowed to use on the forum, but it sounds like negro.
Now I wonder what that word could be :o I think Jesse Jackson used it the other night when he was commenting on Obama (emissary to the devil).
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Shamgar on July 19, 2008, 09:43:18 PM
Money going to the "Great Society" program for the last 50 years significantly exceeds the United States' total financial cost of all wars since the American Revolution. So with trillions of dollars spent, the big cities are nothing more than breeding grounds for slums and crime.

Over the last 20 years, productive companies and citizens have been taxed and legislated out of the urban areas by the liberals. Now the libs have realized that the tax generating base has left them without billions of dollars to squander on social programs.

So guess what?? Now there is legislation being developed to FORCE people to move back into the city. Commuters are being targeted, gas prices forced up and companies being pressured to give priorites to candidates that live in the "hood".
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Rubystars on July 19, 2008, 10:05:24 PM
I have a word for them that I probably am not allowed to use on the forum, but it sounds like negro.
Now I wonder what that word could be :o I think Jesse Jackson used it the other night when he was commenting on Obama (emissary to the devil).

That might be it  ;)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Rubystars on July 19, 2008, 11:26:20 PM
There is a huge amoung of illegals recieving welfare benefits for their children born here in America...they seem to get the most help from what I can see.

Unfortunately you're correct. Almost no one receiving WIC when I was a cashier at a grocery store could even speak English. The program has no test of citizenship to receive benefits. When I think of poor Americans who could use the help it does upset me that we are assisting foreign nationals with our taxpayer money. I also get furious with billions of dollars being sent as aid to third world nations when there are poor Americans who could use that kind of assistance.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 20, 2008, 12:05:07 AM
If the child is born in America, then they get the benefits cuz the child is then American, born on American soil.....



There is a huge amoung of illegals recieving welfare benefits for their children born here in America...they seem to get the most help from what I can see.

Unfortunately you're correct. Almost no one receiving WIC when I was a cashier at a grocery store could even speak English. The program has no test of citizenship to receive benefits. When I think of poor Americans who could use the help it does upset me that we are assisting foreign nationals with our taxpayer money. I also get furious with billions of dollars being sent as aid to third world nations when there are poor Americans who could use that kind of assistance.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: rob shepherd on July 20, 2008, 12:14:52 AM
I don't care if their children are born here or not.  They should all be shipped south of the border and not get a bloody thing.  They're draining our treasure, economy, and jobs.  They're the biggest threat to our security.  All illegal immigrants should be rounded up and kicked out.  They're the worst and growing worse every day.  God bless AMERICA and ISRAEL!!!!!
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Rubystars on July 20, 2008, 12:25:42 AM
If the child is born in America, then they get the benefits cuz the child is then American, born on American soil.....

To get benefits they don't even have to prove that.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on July 20, 2008, 12:32:29 AM
Really?????

Amazing...Im a veteran and I have to prove my citizenship, etc....

 :::D

If the child is born in America, then they get the benefits cuz the child is then American, born on American soil.....

To get benefits they don't even have to prove that.
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: AsheDina on July 20, 2008, 01:07:51 AM
Really?????

Amazing...Im a veteran and I have to prove my citizenship, etc....

 :::D

If the child is born in America, then they get the benefits cuz the child is then American, born on American soil.....

To get benefits they don't even have to prove that.
  Isnt that something Hanna? We have to PROVE we are who WE are... really- ROTTON CHEESE is smelling in Denmark
   (http://www.jasperfforde.com/specops/images/cheese_alert.jpg)
Title: Re: What is your favourite term for welfare receivers?
Post by: Rubystars on July 20, 2008, 02:23:21 AM
Really?????

Amazing...Im a veteran and I have to prove my citizenship, etc....

 :::D



http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/wichd/gi/eligible.shtm

They just have to prove residency, not citizenship.

Quote
Live in Texas. WIC clients usually receive services in the county where they live. U.S. citizenship is not a requirement for eligibility.