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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ben Yehuda on August 03, 2008, 05:14:50 AM
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http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=max+baer&sitesearch=&aq=f#sitesearch=&aq=f&q=max%20baer%20schmeling
Baer sports Mogen David.
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I don't think Braddock was a Nazi, there was a movie made about this called Cinderella Man although Max Baer was depicted somewhat poorly in the movie.
The movie depicts him as bragging about killing his opponent in the ring (which was an accident and he felt guilty about it, even contributed funds from his fights to the family) and rude mannered (in real life, he was quite a comedian, joked around a lot).
Max Baer however was a very good boxer, great record too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Baer_(boxer)
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Oh your talking about Max Schmeling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schmeling
The source claims he was a Nazi but yet he saved the lives of 2 Jewish children? Theres no citation though.
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Oh your talking about Max Schmeling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schmeling
The source claims he was a Nazi but yet he saved the lives of 2 Jewish children? Theres no citation though.
Max Schmaeling and Lewis. A CLASSIC!
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http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=max+baer&sitesearch=&aq=f#sitesearch=&aq=f&q=max%20baer%20schmeling
Baer sports Mogen David.
The video that loads on the Google search page you linked to is actually a fight between Baer and Braddock. I don't think Braddock was a Nazi. After his boxing career was over, Braddock was a successful businessman in the construction industry and helped build the Verrazano bridge.
On the same page, there is video of Max Baer boxing Max Schmelling. Schmelling was indeed the toast of Nazi Germany after defeating Joe Louis in their initial match. Louis absolutely destroyed Schmelling in their rematch in Yankee stadium. Schmelling was taking such a pounding that the radio feed of the bout back to Germany was pulled by the Nazis to save their hero embarrassment.
Schmelling's sentiments towards the Nazi regime has been oft debated. Most people think he was anti-Nazi but went with the flow, in order to continue his career. I'm pretty sure Schmelling had a Jewish manager. It should be noted that Schmelling survived the war and went on to become a successful distributor of Coca Cola in Germany and became friendly with Joe Louis.
Max Baer was defeated by Braddock in the video that was linked to. Baer wasn't a great boxer, but was a tremendous power puncher with phenomenal knockout ability. He didn't like getting hit (who does ?) and didn't have a very sturdy chin. He was reputed to be quite a playboy. Max Baer's son, Max Baer Jr., went on to fame playing 'Jethro Bodine' on the popular sit-com 'The Beverly Hillbillies'.
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http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=max+baer&sitesearch=&aq=f#sitesearch=&aq=f&q=max%20baer%20schmeling
Baer sports Mogen David.
The video that loads on the Google search page you linked to is actually a fight between Baer and Braddock. I don't think Braddock was a Nazi. After his boxing career was over, Braddock was a successful businessman in the construction industry and helped build the Verrazano bridge.
On the same page, there is video of Max Baer boxing Max Schmelling. Schmelling was indeed the toast of Nazi Germany after defeating Joe Louis in their initial match. Louis absolutely destroyed Schmelling in their rematch in Yankee stadium. Schmelling was taking such a pounding that the radio feed of the bout back to Germany was pulled by the Nazis to save their hero embarrassment.
Schmelling's sentiments towards the Nazi regime has been oft debated. Most people think he was anti-Nazi but went with the flow, in order to continue his career. I'm pretty sure Schmelling had a Jewish manager. It should be noted that Schmelling survived the war and went on to become a successful distributor of Coca Cola in Germany and became friendly with Joe Louis.
Max Baer was defeated by Braddock in the video that was linked to. Baer wasn't a great boxer, but was a tremendous power puncher with phenomenal knockout ability. He didn't like getting hit (who does ?) and didn't have a very sturdy chin. He was reputed to be quite a playboy. Max Baer's son, Max Baer Jr., went on to fame playing 'Jethro Bodine' on the popular sit-com 'The Beverly Hillbillies'.
His win/loss record looks pretty impressive to me.
Total fights 84
Wins 72
Wins by KO 53
Losses 12
Draws 0
No contests 0
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Yes, Baer had a very impressive career, and I didn't mean to denigrate his ability.
He certainly isn't regarded as one of the greatest heavyweight champions, but there's no denying he had fearsome punching ability. He had natural power and hit like a mule.
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http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=max+baer&sitesearch=&aq=f#sitesearch=&aq=f&q=max%20baer%20schmeling
Baer sports Mogen David.
The video that loads on the Google search page you linked to is actually a fight between Baer and Braddock. I don't think Braddock was a Nazi. After his boxing career was over, Braddock was a successful businessman in the construction industry and helped build the Verrazano bridge.
On the same page, there is video of Max Baer boxing Max Schmelling. Schmelling was indeed the toast of Nazi Germany after defeating Joe Louis in their initial match. Louis absolutely destroyed Schmelling in their rematch in Yankee stadium. Schmelling was taking such a pounding that the radio feed of the bout back to Germany was pulled by the Nazis to save their hero embarrassment.
Schmelling's sentiments towards the Nazi regime has been oft debated. Most people think he was anti-Nazi but went with the flow, in order to continue his career. I'm pretty sure Schmelling had a Jewish manager. It should be noted that Schmelling survived the war and went on to become a successful distributor of Coca Cola in Germany and became friendly with Joe Louis.
Max Baer was defeated by Braddock in the video that was linked to. Baer wasn't a great boxer, but was a tremendous power puncher with phenomenal knockout ability. He didn't like getting hit (who does ?) and didn't have a very sturdy chin. He was reputed to be quite a playboy. Max Baer's son, Max Baer Jr., went on to fame playing 'Jethro Bodine' on the popular sit-com 'The Beverly Hillbillies'.
Sorry meant to link to the Schmelling fight with Baer.
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Max Schmeling was nearly my neighbor. -deleted- He lived in the small village Hollenstedt near to me.
After his death some Jews said, that he has hidden their children during the progroms in 1938. I have found this english Wiki-article, but I read about this issue elsewhere. Perhaps I can find the source. I think it was an article of the liberal weekly newspaper Die Zeit [The Times]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schmeling
Althrough his record is not good, for a German of this time he was imo one of the better.
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Chaim has said Schnelling at least was a Nazi, possibly Baer too (don't remember).
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Chaim has said Schnelling at least was a Nazi, possibly Baer too (don't remember).
I am no boxing fan, nor I admire Schmeling. I will correct instantly, if there is a source for this. :-\
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Chaim has said Schnelling at least was a Nazi, possibly Baer too (don't remember).
Baer was Jewish on his fathers side he was'nt a nazi. Schmelling saved Jewish kids he was sent to the Russian front because he refused to follow the nazis,he just did very little in order not be punished
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Chaim has said Schnelling at least was a Nazi, possibly Baer too (don't remember).
Baer was Jewish, he had a huge star of david on his shorts.
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Chaim has said Schnelling at least was a Nazi, possibly Baer too (don't remember).
Baer was Jewish, he had a huge star of david on his shorts.
Yes his son Junior also said his father was Jewish
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Schmelling was not a nazi and was punished for it http://auschwitz.dk/schmeling.htm
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Schmelling was not a nazi and was punished for it http://auschwitz.dk/schmeling.htm
Thanks, Mord, for the info on Schmeling. And I guess Baer would not strictly speaking be considered Jewish as his father was Jewish, but I don't believe his mother was. Symbolically is was important though, since at the time Schmeling represented the Nazi Germany, and Baer wore a great big Mogen David on his shorts.
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Schmelling was not a nazi and was punished for it http://auschwitz.dk/schmeling.htm
Thanks, Mord, for the info on Schmeling. And I guess Baer would not strictly speaking be considered Jewish as his father was Jewish, but I don't believe his mother was. Symbolically is was important though, since at the time Schmeling represented the Nazi Germany, and Baer wore a great big Mogen David on his shorts.
Even though his mother wasn't Jewish, wouldn't he still be accepted into Israel for having a Jewish parent?
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One week I asked Chaim if he would let people with Jewish ancestry but who weren't halachically Jewish into Israel if they were facing anti-Semitism and he said that he would if they converted to Judaism, because the Jewish state must remain Jewish. I completely agree with him that Israel must remain a Jewish state. I understood after he explained it in the program.
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They let russian nazis in
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They let russian nazis in
But they aren't Jewish by birth or even heritage, you can buy forged paperwork in Russia very cheap.
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They let russian nazis in
But they aren't Jewish by birth or even heritage, you can buy forged paperwork in Russia very cheap.
Thats what i mean but someone who has a Jewish father whose life is in danger he should be allowed in