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Title: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Abraham_Fr on August 27, 2008, 09:02:05 AM
Hello,  ;)

Last night i saw the new film of Adam Sandler "You don't mess with the zohan" ...

I just want to know if anyone had seen the film before? if there is, what you think about it?

i'll give you my opinion later ...

Bye!
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Rubystars on August 27, 2008, 09:06:19 AM
It looked incredibly stupid, so stupid that I didn't want to see it.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Angry Panther on August 27, 2008, 09:52:23 AM
I was embarrassed walking out of the theater...nuff said!

Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: White Israelite on August 27, 2008, 09:55:03 AM
No thanks, i've seen enough movies that embarrass Israel, I'll download it but I won't pay a cent to see it.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 27, 2008, 10:43:11 AM
Hello,  ;)

Last night i saw the new film of Adam Sandler "You don't mess with the zohan" ...

I just want to know if anyone had seen the film before? if there is, what you think about it?

i'll give you my opinion later ...

Bye!

I thought it was funny, but got annoyed at how they displayed the simplicity of the arab-jewish conflict.  Where you have an israeli marry a palestinian and everybody gets along...we now know that this is impossible.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Yonathan Ben Yakov on August 27, 2008, 12:03:16 PM
pure dumb, the last ever sandler movie ever will watch.

Jews are shown as perverts

arabs are shown as good guys

america is shown as the problem between Jews and arabs

and that Jews are not different than the arabs and marriage with them is good
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2008, 12:27:36 PM
pure dumb, the last ever sandler movie ever will watch.

Jews are shown as perverts

arabs are shown as good guys

america is shown as the problem between Jews and arabs

and that Jews are not different than the arabs and marriage with them is good

perfect analysis!
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Manch on August 27, 2008, 01:26:15 PM
pure dumb, the last ever sandler movie ever will watch.

Jews are shown as perverts

arabs are shown as good guys

america is shown as the problem between Jews and arabs

and that Jews are not different than the arabs and marriage with them is good


I saw the trailer and thought it was pretty asinine. You've confirmed my suspicions. But, honestly, could have Hollywood produce a different movie, you know the one that is not written over the template of liberal thinking? It sounds that they've hit all the stereotypes ingrained into the liberal Jewish psyche.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on August 27, 2008, 03:01:24 PM
Hello,  ;)

Last night i saw the new film of Adam Sandler "You don't mess with the zohan" ...

I just want to know if anyone had seen the film before? if there is, what you think about it?

i'll give you my opinion later ...

Bye!



I thought it was funny, but got annoyed at how they displayed the simplicity of the arab-jewish conflict.  Where you have an israeli marry a palestinian and everybody gets along...we now know that this is impossible.

Shalom Dr. Dan, Impossible is the key Word! Islam cannot be negoiated with, nor it's followers.

                                                                                   Shalom from Dox   
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 27, 2008, 03:08:10 PM
I won't see this excrement--I wanted to, but my best friend reviewed it online and then I did. Her conclusion was right: it is a smutty piece of garbage that states that Jews and Arabs would get along if only the white man would stop holding them back. No thanks Mr. Sandler--I'll keep my eight bucks.  ::)
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: syyuge on August 27, 2008, 03:46:38 PM
It must be trash and garbage.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2008, 03:51:19 PM
Another one of Adam Sandler's brilliant movies: 'I Now Pronounce you Chuck and Larry'... it's all about the homosexual agenda. This guy is pro Jews and pro Israel as much as Sasha Cohen was with 'Borat'
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Tacitus on August 27, 2008, 05:11:02 PM
Isn't Sandler a republican?
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: White Israelite on August 27, 2008, 05:16:52 PM
Another one of Adam Sandler's brilliant movies: 'I Now Pronounce you Chuck and Larry'... it's all about the homosexual agenda. This guy is pro Jews and pro Israel as much as Sasha Cohen was with 'Borat'

Yeah but at least Borat was good at exposing anti-semites. Sandler embarrased the Jews by making us look like metrosexual mall rats with a obsession of acting flamboyant and talking with silly French accents. What a horrid movie.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: P J C on August 27, 2008, 05:26:17 PM
The only thing laughable about that movie is how pitiful it is.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 27, 2008, 06:25:30 PM
This guy is pro Jews and pro Israel as much as Sasha Cohen was with 'Borat'
I take exception to that--Borat was friggin' hilarious!  :::D
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: RanterMaximus on August 27, 2008, 07:21:55 PM
Adam Sandler films are nothing more than an insult to the movie going experiance.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: TruthSpreader on August 27, 2008, 08:17:32 PM
pure dumb, the last ever sandler movie ever will watch.

Jews are shown as perverts

arabs are shown as good guys

america is shown as the problem between Jews and arabs

and that Jews are not different than the arabs and marriage with them is good


You're right. I'm sick of this double standard bs. Arabs as good guys are you kidding me?
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 27, 2008, 09:04:13 PM
I actually liked almost all of Sandler's films up till this artistic gem.  ::)
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: muman613 on August 27, 2008, 09:48:30 PM
I see no humor in self hating Jews like Sandler. I cant stand a single movie he has been in. The ones I suffered through were just re-hashes of his dumb, stuttering speech impediment characters. Has he ever played a character who didnt have a speech impediment or acted completely dumb? And I dont like his Channukah song... My liberal synagogue played it last Channukah and I wanted to barf. What is it that possesses these self-haters to make such poor entertainment?

muman613
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: White Israelite on August 27, 2008, 10:04:54 PM
I see no humor in self hating Jews like Sandler. I cant stand a single movie he has been in. The ones I suffered through were just re-hashes of his dumb, stuttering speech impediment characters. Has he ever played a character who didnt have a speech impediment or acted completely dumb? And I dont like his Channukah song... My liberal synagogue played it last Channukah and I wanted to barf. What is it that possesses these self-haters to make such poor entertainment?

muman613


little nicky was kind of funny.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Rubystars on August 27, 2008, 11:42:25 PM
I thought Anger Management was funny
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: muman613 on August 28, 2008, 01:00:22 AM
Shalom,

One line in Little Nicky always bothered me... I just looked up the script and apparently what offended me wasnt in the original script. But I have found references to it : http://www.epinions.com/review/mvie_mu-1101377/content_74985803396

Quote
http://www.allmoviephoto.com/photo/2000_Little_Nicky_photo.html
From the angels we get the inside scoop on G-d's brain power. "G-d is so smart!" says one angel. "Like Jeopardy smart!" adds another. And LITTLE NICKY, for all of its coarseness, is a surprisingly smart comedy.

Here is a .mp3 of the clip:

http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=MP3S&type=Movies&movie=Little_Nicky&quote=sosmart.txt&file=sosmart.mp3

I was offended by the statement "G-d is smart, Like Jeopardy Smart..." because it implies that G-ds wisdom and understanding is limited. While Jeopardy is a fine show, it is not the paramount of knowledge and wisdom. It is heresy, in my mind, to even contemplate how 'smart' Hashem is.

In our daily prayers we acknowledge that Hashems wisdom is beyond calculation. Maybe I am just picky but when a Jew wants to be funny and says things which are desecrations of his name I am very upset.

muman613

Quote
Psalm 147
1. Praise the Lord! Sing to our G-d for He is good; praise befits Him for He is pleasant.
2. The Lord is the rebuilder of Jerusalem; He will gather the banished of Israel.
3. He heals the broken-hearted, and bandages their wounds.
4. He counts the number of the stars; He gives a name to each of them.
5. Great is our Master and abounding in might; His understanding is beyond reckoning.
6. The Lord strengthens the humble; He casts the wicked to the ground.
7. Lift your voices to the Lord in gratitude; sing to our G-d with the harp.
8. He covers the heaven with clouds; He prepares rain for the earth, and makes grass grow upon the mountains.
9. He gives the animal its food, to the young ravens which cry to Him.
10. He does not desire [those who place their trust in] the strength of the horse, nor does He want those who rely upon the thighs [swiftness] of man.
11. He desires those who fear Him, those who long for His kindness.
12. Praise the Lord, O Jerusalem; Zion, extol your G-d.
13. For He has strengthened the bolts of your gates; He has blessed your children in your midst.
14. He has made peace within your borders; He satiates you with the finest of wheat.
15. He issues His command to the earth; swiftly does His word run.
16. He dispenses snow like fleece; He scatters frost like ashes.
17. He hurls His ice like morsels; who can withstand His cold?
18. He sends forth His word and melts them; He causes His wind to blow, and the waters flow.
19. He tells His words [Torah] to Jacob, His statutes and ordinances to Israel.
20. He has not done so for other nations, and they do not know [His] ordinances. Praise the Lord!

HALLELUJAH!
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 28, 2008, 07:23:24 AM
Shalom,

One line in Little Nicky always bothered me... I just looked up the script and apparently what offended me wasnt in the original script. But I have found references to it : http://www.epinions.com/review/mvie_mu-1101377/content_74985803396

Quote
http://www.allmoviephoto.com/photo/2000_Little_Nicky_photo.html
From the angels we get the inside scoop on G-d's brain power. "G-d is so smart!" says one angel. "Like Jeopardy smart!" adds another. And LITTLE NICKY, for all of its coarseness, is a surprisingly smart comedy.

Here is a .mp3 of the clip:

http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=MP3S&type=Movies&movie=Little_Nicky&quote=sosmart.txt&file=sosmart.mp3

I was offended by the statement "G-d is smart, Like Jeopardy Smart..." because it implies that G-ds wisdom and understanding is limited. While Jeopardy is a fine show, it is not the paramount of knowledge and wisdom. It is heresy, in my mind, to even contemplate how 'smart' Hashem is.

In our daily prayers we acknowledge that Hashems wisdom is beyond calculation. Maybe I am just picky but when a Jew wants to be funny and says things which are desecrations of his name I am very upset.

muman613

Quote
Psalm 147
1. Praise the Lord! Sing to our G-d for He is good; praise befits Him for He is pleasant.
2. The Lord is the rebuilder of Jerusalem; He will gather the banished of Israel.
3. He heals the broken-hearted, and bandages their wounds.
4. He counts the number of the stars; He gives a name to each of them.
5. Great is our Master and abounding in might; His understanding is beyond reckoning.
6. The Lord strengthens the humble; He casts the wicked to the ground.
7. Lift your voices to the Lord in gratitude; sing to our G-d with the harp.
8. He covers the heaven with clouds; He prepares rain for the earth, and makes grass grow upon the mountains.
9. He gives the animal its food, to the young ravens which cry to Him.
10. He does not desire [those who place their trust in] the strength of the horse, nor does He want those who rely upon the thighs [swiftness] of man.
11. He desires those who fear Him, those who long for His kindness.
12. Praise the Lord, O Jerusalem; Zion, extol your G-d.
13. For He has strengthened the bolts of your gates; He has blessed your children in your midst.
14. He has made peace within your borders; He satiates you with the finest of wheat.
15. He issues His command to the earth; swiftly does His word run.
16. He dispenses snow like fleece; He scatters frost like ashes.
17. He hurls His ice like morsels; who can withstand His cold?
18. He sends forth His word and melts them; He causes His wind to blow, and the waters flow.
19. He tells His words [Torah] to Jacob, His statutes and ordinances to Israel.
20. He has not done so for other nations, and they do not know [His] ordinances. Praise the Lord!

HALLELUJAH!


I hear ya...except it was a joke and wasn't meant to be a serious thought...

On the same token, one might look at the Zohan movie as one that makes fun of the peaceniks and that one day everybody will live happily ever after and be married to each other.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Manch on December 05, 2008, 03:23:04 PM
I see no humor in self hating Jews like Sandler. I cant stand a single movie he has been in. The ones I suffered through were just re-hashes of his dumb, stuttering speech impediment characters. Has he ever played a character who didnt have a speech impediment or acted completely dumb? And I dont like his Channukah song... My liberal synagogue played it last Channukah and I wanted to barf. What is it that possesses these self-haters to make such poor entertainment?

muman613


little nicky was kind of funny.
I thought the bulldog was brilliant! I fast forwarded scenes with Sandler.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Abben on December 07, 2008, 11:03:59 PM
This guy is pro Jews and pro Israel as much as Sasha Cohen was with 'Borat'
I take exception to that--Borat was friggin' hilarious!  :::D

I never saw zohan looks stupid. But I did like borat, never liked any other characters of his.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: muman613 on December 07, 2008, 11:08:28 PM
I discussed this movie over Shabbat lunch with my minyan and some saw it and confirmed my feeling it was dumb.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Xoce on December 08, 2008, 01:03:04 AM
pure dumb, the last ever sandler movie ever will watch.

Jews are shown as perverts

arabs are shown as good guys

america is shown as the problem between Jews and arabs

and that Jews are not different than the arabs and marriage with them is good


I saw the trailer and thought it was pretty asinine. You've confirmed my suspicions. But, honestly, could have Hollywood produce a different movie, you know the one that is not written over the template of liberal thinking? It sounds that they've hit all the stereotypes ingrained into the liberal Jewish psyche.


"I saw the trailer and thought it was pretty asinine," too.
did not watch it nor do i want to.
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: q_q_ on December 08, 2008, 02:26:00 AM
I saw the advert for it, text saying "Don't mess with the Zohan" , and it shows a guy doing a kick that is like the full splits, and he wears a little pair of shorts. And anybody that would be messing with him would get a full view of his groin.. and most of both legs.

It looked very very gay.   It was not targetting normal healthy straight men.

I don't know how any straight male would not be put off from watching it just from that advert.

Why did all you guys watch it?
Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: Vito on December 08, 2008, 11:09:53 AM
Hello,  ;)

Last night i saw the new film of Adam Sandler "You don't mess with the zohan" ...

I just want to know if anyone had seen the film before? if there is, what you think about it?

i'll give you my opinion later ...

Bye!

*cough cough* ... did you get your answer Abraham?

Title: Re: You don't mess with the ZOHAN !
Post by: q_q_ on December 10, 2008, 09:24:24 PM
i'm still curious why -

Given that the advert is so gay, people went to see it.

I'm sure that if I had pointed this out earlier, less people would have admitted going to see it!

This is the picture I saw..
http://elvislawsonreviews.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/dont-mess-zohan-poster-2.jpg
with the message "don't mess with the zohan". That is probably the standard advert.


And I just saw one that is even worse (the same kind of thing as the first one, but far more blatant)
http://www.firstshowing.net/img/zohan-poster2-med.jpg

Now.. You could say you didn't see the second pic. Neither had I. But just seeing that first pic, that advert,  I was disgusted.

If a woman was doing that pose, it would have been sexually appealing to most men.   But I could see what the focus was.. the humour, that if you mess with him you'd be on the receiving end of that.. The gay thing is saying "yay, i'm going to see it"!!!!!