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Title: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: RationalThought110 on August 28, 2008, 03:29:54 PM
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Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 28, 2008, 03:38:19 PM
The respect of the international rights counts only for pro EU and pro US nations.

Secondly, you can not compare Serbian hitorical province of Kosovo, where the Serbs always were in the majority, before 1941, with the happenig of South Ossetia.The current happening of Georgia is reminding us about Krajina-Croatia (1990-1995) and not on the situation in Kosovo.
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: Hail Columbia on August 31, 2008, 09:29:01 AM
The current happening of Georgia is reminding us about Krajina-Croatia (1990-1995) and not on the situation in Kosovo.

Well, yes.  Around eighteen years ago, 300,000 Georgians were ethnically cleansed from Abkhazia.
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 31, 2008, 10:34:54 AM
300.000 ?
Why would Russia cleanse Orthodox people?

Ok, where are those expelled people today? Where are they located, right now?
1. Where are today approximately expelled 300.000 Georgians who are ethnic cleansed by the Russians?
2. During which period exactly were they cleansed and how many of them?
Provide official dates and numbers of the exiled people. Provide also sources where you have found this information.
Every nation in exile has it’s representation! The real representatives of the exiled Krajina Serbs is the government of  the Republic of Serbian Krajina which is in exile.
2. Who is representing the exiled Georgians? Some institution must have documented the happening which caused their exile?
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: NedaminodSRB on August 31, 2008, 12:22:08 PM
The current happening of Georgia is reminding us about Krajina-Croatia (1990-1995) and not on the situation in Kosovo.

Well, yes.  Around eighteen years ago, 300,000 Georgians were ethnically cleansed from Abkhazia.

One Armenian told me that Stalin was a Georgian (checked, it's true) and that he gave parts of Russia and Armenia to Georgia.Maybe there was never genocide, maybe Georgians just never lived there?
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 31, 2008, 12:39:05 PM
Ko to kaze ko to laze Rusija je kriva ? ? ?
Nije Kriva,
nije kriva,
pocela je NATO ofanziva!
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: Hail Columbia on August 31, 2008, 05:14:49 PM
300.000 ?
Why would Russia cleanse Orthodox people?

It was Abkhazian separatists who committed the ethnic cleansing, with some Russian help.

Ok, where are those expelled people today? Where are they located, right now?
1. Where are today approximately expelled 300.000 Georgians who are ethnic cleansed by the Russians?

Mostly in Georgia.

2. During which period exactly were they cleansed and how many of them?

From 1991 to 1993, and again in 1998, with around 250,000 Georgians ethnically cleansed.

Provide official dates and numbers of the exiled people. Provide also sources where you have found this information.

Human Rights Watch report about ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia:
http://www.hrw.org/reports/pdfs/g/georgia/georgia953.pdf

There's also a Russian site:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070607163702/http://abkhazeti.ru/pages/main/warabkhazia.html

And, here's a Wikipedia article, for quick reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_Abkhazia

Every nation in exile has it’s representation! The real representatives of the exiled Krajina Serbs is the government of  the Republic of Serbian Krajina which is in exile.
2. Who is representing the exiled Georgians? Some institution must have documented the happening which caused their exile?

The legal autonomous government of Abkhazia, which was itself recently exiled from the little territory that it controlled by the illegal separatist government of Abkhazia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_Autonomous_Republic_of_Abkhazia
"This government is also partly responsible for the affairs of some 250,000 IDPs who were forced to leave Abkhazia following the War in Abkhazia and ethnic cleansing that followed."
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 31, 2008, 05:40:08 PM
I do not trust HMW. They were in contradiction to the facts regarding former Yugoslavia. I do not think that American and EU institutions are proving real facts in the real context.

How do you explain this:
The same organizations which were propagating a Serbian conducted genocide over others, are again in action in order to again justify hostile intentions - this time towards Russia. 
What do you think about the fact that the Georgian opposition is strongly condemning the policy of the pro EU Georgian government? The opposition is supported by a great number of Orthodox Georgians. Not all Georgians support the policy of their government.

You know that there are not 300.000 registered exiled Georgians.
Otherwise we would heard about them before the escalation of this conflict
300.000 exiled Georgians is a great number!
If that was true than they should at least have a representation in exile.
If the US was during the 90s supporting ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia, won't they have the same attitude today?

Secondly you can not deny the fact that the Georgian government did not start with attacking the Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia.
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: DALMACIJA on August 31, 2008, 05:50:14 PM
If ethnic cleansing is carried out against 300.000 than a certain government must be responsible for that happening, right?

Nobody has proves that the Russian government organized, planned and conducted ethnic cleansing over those people. The number of 300.000 is not even registered and confirmed.

 
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: DALMACIJA on September 02, 2008, 04:05:23 PM
Georgia has currently 2000 soldiers in Kosovo!
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: Kerber on September 02, 2008, 07:57:30 PM
Georgia has currently 2000 soldiers in Kosovo!
Really?I didn't know that!
Is there any link for this info?
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: DALMACIJA on September 03, 2008, 01:36:04 PM
Georgia has currently 2000 soldiers in Kosovo!
Really?I didn't know that!
Is there any link for this info?

Forgive me comrad,

There were till the beginning of the year of 2008 about 150 Georgian soldiers on Kosovo. You can find this on Serbian reports regarding the occupation of Kosovo.
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on September 04, 2008, 05:03:14 AM
Ko to kaze ko to laze Rusija je kriva ? ? ?
Nije Kriva,
nije kriva,
pocela je NATO ofanziva!

no offence dalmacijo my friend but try not to change something about the cetniks(touchy subject of mine):P
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: Ulli on September 04, 2008, 05:05:08 AM
The statement is basically true.  :)
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on September 04, 2008, 07:01:14 AM
ok it was a joke...:/ but ok
Title: Re: Territorial integrity of Georgia impossible without doing it for Serbia
Post by: Nikola1389 on September 04, 2008, 07:23:37 PM
The current happening of Georgia is reminding us about Krajina-Croatia (1990-1995) and not on the situation in Kosovo.

Well, yes.  Around eighteen years ago, 300,000 Georgians were ethnically cleansed from Abkhazia.

One Armenian told me that Stalin was a Georgian (checked, it's true) and that he gave parts of Russia and Armenia to Georgia.Maybe there was never genocide, maybe Georgians just never lived there?

thats right Stalins name(i'll spell it in serbian ):

Josif Visaironovic Dzugashvili Staljin