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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Roadwarrior on August 29, 2008, 08:27:52 AM
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According to Drudge
Mccain did his maverick thing ...and a great choice
I didnt think she had a prayer.
Looks like he wants to win.
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http://wonkette.com/381671/breaking-hot-dish-sarah-palin-gives-birth-kid-has-weird-name
(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7893/sarahpalinappi4.jpg)
Shot at 2008-08-29
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He made a huge mistake. He should have gone with Romney.
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He made a huge mistake. He should have gone with Romney.
It's just guessing no one know for sure,she's pretty conservative,but i hope it's not her she really does'nt much foreign policy experiencebut alot more experience then the socialist bongo
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she's one of his choices..
Pawlenty and her..
and Baltimore called it if it truely ends up being either one...
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http://www.rightpundits.com/
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2097/sarahpalin36tu8.jpg)
Shot at 2008-08-29
August 29th, 2008
Sarah Palin is Governor of Alaska
By Cathryn Friar
Meet Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska. She is often rumored as being on John McCain’s “short list” of possible Vice Presidential running mates. Read her biography, see photos and a video of her below.
Sarah Palin
Official Portrait
Sarah Palin is both the youngest and the first female governor in Alaska’s relatively brief history as a state. She’s also the most popular governor in America, with an approval rating that has bounced around 90 percent.
This is due partly to her personal qualities. When she was leading her underdog Wasilla high school basketball team to the state championship in 1982, her teammates called her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her fierce competitiveness. Two years later, when she won the “Miss Wasilla” beauty pageant, she was also voted “Miss Congeniality” by the other contestants.
Sarah Barracuda and Miss Congeniality — interesting nicknames for an interesting woman. Fire and nice. A happily married mother of five who is still drop dead gorgeous. And smart to boot.
But it’s mostly because she’s been a crackerjack governor, a strong fiscal conservative and a ferocious fighter of corruption, especially in her own party that she enjoys such high marks from her constituency.
And she is unashamedly pro-life stating that “every innocent life has wonderful potential.” This played out in a real-life drama for Palin and her husband when in April of this year she delivered her 5th child who has Down Syndrome. She said this of her newborn son, Trig:
“I’m looking at him right now, and I see perfection. Yeah, he has an extra chromosome. I keep thinking, in our world, what is normal and what is perfect?” She would be a decided asset and most certainly excite the base: an independent Republican governor, a woman, a fiscal conservative, a defender of life against the creeping culture of death and a fresh face in national politics.
Step up Senator McCain and choose Governor Sarah Palin as your running mate!
8.29.2008 UPDATE: There is huge speculation that Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, is going to be McCain’s VP pick today. Romney and Pawlenty have been eliminated and word is that Palin left Alaska this morning under heavy guard.
There is more about Sarah Palin along with more photos here.
Stay tuned. We’ll keep you updated.
Read her Biography and see more photos and a recent Video of Sarah on “Glenn Beck”
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She sure is nicer to look at than Joseph Biden. :::D
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She sure is nicer to look at than Joseph Biden. :::D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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As long as she's very conservative then I think it's a good choice. There is one concern for me however. I have to wonder if McCain could get a dip from making what could be seen as a politically correct choice. I understand this is all about politics, but I think you guys know what I mean.
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As long as she's very conservative then I think it's a good choice. There is one concern for me however. I have to wonder if McCain could get a dip from making what could be seen as a politically correct choice. I understand this is all about politics, but I think you guys know what I mean.
Yes that shes a woman,but she's very pro life she Hunts,Fish ,snowmobiles cut taxes and cut social welfare.She seems very conservative
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As long as she's very conservative then I think it's a good choice. There is one concern for me however. I have to wonder if McCain could get a dip from making what could be seen as a politically correct choice. I understand this is all about politics, but I think you guys know what I mean.
Yes that shes a woman,but she's very pro life she Hunts,Fish ,snowmobiles cut taxes and cut social welfare.She seems very conservative
I don't care that she's a woman (that's a plus for me), I just wonder how McCain's choice will be viewed in light of whether he picked her BECAUSE she was a woman, or if he picked her for her qualifications. Was Mitt a more qualified person? That's what nags at me, and I think those questions might hurt McCain.
As much as I hate Hillary I think she got shafted. She should have been the democrat nominee. She's evil but she's not empty-headed like Obama.
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Excellent choice. I think Romney had too much baggage- he could have been portrayed as a flip-flopper. Looks like the GOP is more "progressive" than them dems.
Too bad McCain will still lose.
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Fiscally conservative and pro-life. SOunds good. Her foreign policy experience is not so relevant, since Mccaine will dominate in this area.
Brian
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It's official.
I am NOT voting for McCain.
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It's official.
I am NOT voting for McCain.
Well have fun voting for Obama. O0
The country is already being swept up in a fervor for Obama. At this point, it doesn't matter who's right on what issues or who's qualified.
I am slowly accepting the fact that we must bow down and worship Barrack for the next 8 years.
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It's official.
I am NOT voting for McCain.
Scriabin most of what you post is good but it does bug me that you always care more about what's between someone's legs than what's between their ears. Are you going to let that... n.... negro in?
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It's official.
I am NOT voting for McCain.
Well have fun voting for Obama. O0
The country is already being swept up in a fervor for Obama. At this point, it doesn't matter who's right on what issues or who's qualified.
I'm not voting for Obama or McCain.
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It's official.
I am NOT voting for McCain.
Well have fun voting for Obama. O0
The country is already being swept up in a fervor for Obama. At this point, it doesn't matter who's right on what issues or who's qualified.
I am slowly accepting the fact that we must bow down and worship Barrack for the next 8 years.
Don't give up yet, we have to keep fighting!
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It's official.
I am NOT voting for McCain.
Scriabin most of what you post is good but it does bug me that you always care more about what's between someone's legs than what's between their ears. Are you going to let that... n.... negro in?
I'll say it again.
I will NEVER vote for Obama.
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I'll say it again.
I will NEVER vote for Obama.
You're too much of a righteous person to ever do anything like that, I believe you. It's just that by NOT voting for McCain, you are, in effect, voting for Obama anyway.
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It's official.
I am NOT voting for McCain.
Well have fun voting for Obama. O0
The country is already being swept up in a fervor for Obama. At this point, it doesn't matter who's right on what issues or who's qualified.
I'm not voting for Obama or McCain.
Well thank G-d.
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I'll say it again.
I will NEVER vote for Obama.
By NOT voting for McCain, you are, in effect, voting for Obama.
That's not exactly true.
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I'll say it again.
I will NEVER vote for Obama.
By NOT voting for McCain, you are, in effect, voting for Obama.
That's not exactly true.
I may be wrong, but I believe this election will be very close. McCain needs all the support he can get. Nobody here likes McCain, or at least most JTFers don't like him. I HATE many things about him. However I'm holding my nose to vote for him because I can't let Obama win. Even though Texas is a red state anyway, as Chaim said people should vote for McCain in every state... not just so-called battleground ones.
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I bet we will get to drill in ANWR now!!
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll146/anyakins/P7210001.jpg)
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Obama out of the news for the next few days. lol, atleast we have that.
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I'll say it again.
I will NEVER vote for Obama.
By NOT voting for McCain, you are, in effect, voting for Obama.
That's not exactly true.
I may be wrong, but I believe this election will be very close. McCain needs all the support he can get. Nobody here likes McCain, or at least most JTFers don't like him. I HATE many things about him. However I'm holding my nose to vote for him because I can't let Obama win. Even though Texas is a red state anyway, as Chaim said people should vote for McCain in every state... not just so-called battleground ones.
I think that McCain will win.
This Alaska broad has secured the Feminist voting block for him.
Obama has made two fatal (yet understandable) mistakes. He alienated the Feminists and ignored the Latinos.
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Palin is the anti-Hillary...
I think a big factor in choosing Palin was that McCain knew that most likely 4-12 years from now, Hillary would make another run for the white house. Palin is hopefully smarter and stronger and more convincing to shut Hillary up for good.
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Palin is the anti-Hillary...
I think a big factor in choosing Palin was that McCain knew that most likely 4-12 years from now, Hillary would make another run for the white house. Palin is hopefully smarter and stronger and more convincing to shut Hillary up for good.
Any thinking person is the antithesis of Hillary.
This Alaska broad was selected only because she is a woman.
That's called Affirmative Action.
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Palin is the anti-Hillary...
I think a big factor in choosing Palin was that McCain knew that most likely 4-12 years from now, Hillary would make another run for the white house. Palin is hopefully smarter and stronger and more convincing to shut Hillary up for good.
Any thinking person is the antithesis of Hillary.
This Alaska broad was selected only because she is a woman.
That's called Affirmative Action.
If that's why she was selected then I don't think that was right. After what happened to me with a good job I wanted being given to a lazy negro I'd trained, more than once, I feel bad for Romney right now. I feel like he may have gotten shafted and I don't like that at all.
Maybe if more information comes out about her background in the next few days we'll be able to judge whether she was as good as Romney in qualifications or not.
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Palin is the anti-Hillary...
I think a big factor in choosing Palin was that McCain knew that most likely 4-12 years from now, Hillary would make another run for the white house. Palin is hopefully smarter and stronger and more convincing to shut Hillary up for good.
Any thinking person is the antithesis of Hillary.
This Alaska broad was selected only because she is a woman.
That's called Affirmative Action.
If that's why she was selected then I don't think that was right. After what happened to me with a good job I wanted being given to a lazy negro I'd trained, more than once, I feel bad for Romney right now. I feel like he may have gotten shafted and I don't like that at all.
Maybe if more information comes out about her background in the next few days we'll be able to judge whether she was as good as Romney in qualifications or not.
An unknown like her would have never been considered if she were a man.
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Palin is the anti-Hillary...
I think a big factor in choosing Palin was that McCain knew that most likely 4-12 years from now, Hillary would make another run for the white house. Palin is hopefully smarter and stronger and more convincing to shut Hillary up for good.
Any thinking person is the antithesis of Hillary.
This Alaska broad was selected only because she is a woman.
That's called Affirmative Action.
If that's why she was selected then I don't think that was right. After what happened to me with a good job I wanted being given to a lazy negro I'd trained, more than once, I feel bad for Romney right now. I feel like he may have gotten shafted and I don't like that at all.
Maybe if more information comes out about her background in the next few days we'll be able to judge whether she was as good as Romney in qualifications or not.
An unknown like her would have never been considered if she were a man.
You have a valid point Scriabin. It is wrong (evil even) to give it to her because she's female. I should say.. to give it to her ONLY for that reason.
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He made a huge mistake. He should have gone with Romney.
Shalom Ruby, I agree ...he made a mistake. A Female VP is just too risky, he should have picked Mitt.
Shalom from Dox
P.S. what kind of advisors does McCain have!
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He made a huge mistake. He should have gone with Romney.
Shalom Ruby, I agree ...he made a mistake. A Female VP is just too risky, he should have picked Mitt.
Shalom from Dox
P.S. what kind of advisors does McCain have!
I think that Romney would have been politically safer, this is a big gamble. However we can see how this works. I'm very happy she's more conservative than McCain. If he ends up not making it through his first term due to advanced age or sickness, then we could have a VERY pro-life president.
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It's official.
I am NOT voting for McCain.
;D Scriabin
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This reminds me of one of those Archie Bunker clips I saw, where Archie's in a court room and a woman judge comes out, and he whispers to his wife "What do you call a lady judge?" and Edith says "I think it's your honor" and Archie says... "Naah!" in a dismissive voice. That's what Scriabin reminds me of sometimes... but I still think he's right most of the time. ;D
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Heck, I think Palin and McCain should switch roles.
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Heck, I think Palin and McCain should switch roles.
Next time I wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary vs. Palin O0
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Long ago I thought about this:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=16238.msg179789#msg179789
Since the start of this week when I saw how bitter the clinton supporters were I have thought that Palin was the best move. I thought McCain did not have it in him. Clearly an adviser was able to convince him than G-d! I am so pleased with this move. He has a hot now.
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Daaang she's hot. *hubba hubba* :D
(http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/sarah_palin2.JPG?IctQual=100)
Now, with that out of my system, I am pleased. I didn't know anything about her TBQH, but so far I like what I see. I was hoping the pick would be Romney, but he made a gutsy choice and went with a real conservative. This woman is a tzaddik for knowingly carrying to term, and bearing, a Down's Syndrome child. O0
Obviously her being a woman was a big factor in this--I won't deny that, Scriabin--but I would have been satisfied with anyone other than Pruneface or Colon Foul, who were very real possibilities. I'm not just satisfied now, but delighted! O0
Scriabin, please drop the women-are-the-enemy act. Save it for another time. The survival of the country is at stake.
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Long ago I thought about this:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=16238.msg179789#msg179789
Since the start of this week when I saw how bitter the clinton supporters were I have thought that Palin was the best move. I thought McCain did not have it in him. Clearly an adviser was able to convince him than G-d! I am so pleased with this move. He has a hot now.
i remember you mentioningthis! cudos!!
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Daaang she's hot. *hubba hubba* :D
(http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/sarah_palin2.JPG?IctQual=100)
Now, with that out of my system, I am pleased. I didn't know anything about her TBQH, but so far I like what I see. I was hoping the pick would be Romney, but he made a gutsy choice and went with a real conservative. This woman is a tzaddik for knowingly carrying to term, and bearing, a Down's Syndrome child. O0
Obviously her being a woman was a big factor in this--I won't deny that, Scriabin--but I would have been satisfied with anyone other than Pruneface or Colon Foul, who were very real possibilities. I'm not just satisfied now, but delighted! O0
Scriabin, please drop the women-are-the-enemy act. Save it for another time. The survival of the country is at stake.
Shalom CF :) I am not happy with the pick, but I will support the McCain and the New VP regardless.
Shalom from Dox
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Dox, try to keep an open mind. There's nothing wrong with Palin. It's just that she is a relative unknown. This was certainly an attention-getting move and McCain's campaign desperately needed that. This could really work to his benefit.
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Daaang she's hot. *hubba hubba* :D
(http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/sarah_palin2.JPG?IctQual=100)
Now, with that out of my system, I am pleased. I didn't know anything about her TBQH, but so far I like what I see. I was hoping the pick would be Romney, but he made a gutsy choice and went with a real conservative. This woman is a tzaddik for knowingly carrying to term, and bearing, a Down's Syndrome child. O0
That doesn't make her qualified to be president or vice president however.
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I'm concerned about this child being exploited and exposed for political purposes. He could become the subject of national ridicule among cold hearted people.
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shes probably more qualified then the bongoid
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She is fiscally and socially conservative, has a good track record with plenty of experience, good speaker, good for the cameras and has the likability factor.
Daaang she's hot. *hubba hubba* :D
That too ^-^
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He should have picked Sharpton :::D
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She was in vogue (http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7311/sarahpalinvogueus1.jpg)
Shot at 2008-08-29
http://www.ktva.com/alaska/ci_7716436
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Shes pro life ,pro gun ,hunter and she does know foreign policy from dealing with oil
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You couldn't get a better photoshop result than that? :P
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Shes pro life ,pro gun ,hunter and she does know foreign policy from dealing with oil
I have mixed feelings. I would have liked this choice if Mitt hadn't gotten shafted. I got a bad feeling when I first heard about it. I hope that everything will be ok though.
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You couldn't get a better photoshop result than that? :P
It was funny though.
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You couldn't get a better photoshop result than that? :P
It was funny though.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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She is a lien b....!She sad she will go to Minnesota and she sad make your conclusion with that if he is gonna pick her!He is a senile old moron idiot!I will now never and i sad never vote for him!I wish Obama kick his a.. in election and teach all republicans not to choose middle routers!We have to boycott this election by sitting at home.At least that's what i will do.I hate him!
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I LOVE THIS PICK!!! YES YES YES
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this pick will also attract the women voters as well as the christian rights on her stand against abortion it is aw great choice
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There is a girl named Juliana Wetmore who is NOT mentally disabled, but has a deformed face (she was missing a lot of the bones she should have had in her face due to being born with severe Treacher-Collins syndrome). The natural human reaction I would think would be sympathy, or support and prayer for her family who brought her to term and who cares for her.
Instead when you see her videos on Youtube or comments about her on blogs, most of them seem to be things like "She should have been aborted" and "kill that damn thing", etc. All this about an innocent little girl!
I'm worried the same thing will happen to Palin's child. The child will be set up as an example of the pro-life movement and while Palin and her child will get support on the one hand, the darker, more evil underbelly will make evil and nasty remarks about this innocent child.
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It is a very smart pick. McCain's strong points is defense and foreign policies, her strong points are domestic issues such as welfare, and abortion it balances out and she is a pretty decent conservative in todays time. She can also grab the women vote and young vote, she is younger then Bongo and looks a whole lot better then Michelle Dumbama
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It is a very smart pick. McCain's strong points is defense and foreign policies, her strong points are domestic issues such as welfare, and abortion it balances out and she is a pretty decent conservative in todays time. She can also grab the women vote and young vote, she is younger then Bongo and looks a whole lot better then Michelle Dumbama
I can see the Beauty and the Beast comments coming out really soon. I haven't seen that said yet, but it will be. McCain will be seen as "the Beast" which is hardly the image he wants now.
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It is a very smart pick. McCain's strong points is defense and foreign policies, her strong points are domestic issues such as welfare, and abortion it balances out and she is a pretty decent conservative in todays time. She can also grab the women vote and young vote, she is younger then Bongo and looks a whole lot better then Michelle Dumbama
What do you expect she is Human
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It is a very smart pick. McCain's strong points is defense and foreign policies, her strong points are domestic issues such as welfare, and abortion it balances out and she is a pretty decent conservative in todays time. She can also grab the women vote and young vote, she is younger then Bongo and looks a whole lot better then Michelle Dumbama
I can see the Beauty and the Beast comments coming out really soon. I haven't seen that said yet, but it will be. McCain will be seen as "the Beast" which is hardly the image he wants now.
(http://www.imagesdisney.com/images/3-wallpapers-beauty-beast.jpg)
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I think it is a great choice cause she is very anti abortion so am I. Abortion is murder period. Life doesn't begin when the baby is out it begins when the mother's egg is fertalized by the fathers sperm and it is butchery to do this hiddeous act
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This played out in a real-life drama for Palin and her husband when in April of this year she delivered her 5th child who has Down Syndrome.
This April she gave birth? Am I being slow here, or does this mean that the woman was pregnant and gave birth while holding the position of the Governor of Alaska?? Isn't this irresponsible??!! And is she going to become a Vice President of the United States while being a mother of a very young and disabled child? Could this be right? I say, it's irresponsible. If you are a mother of 5 children and one of them is disabled then could it be that not all life's opportunities are open to you? I am happy that a smart white woman has 5 kids. But maybe she should postpone pursuing her political career until her "mommy track" is completed? She is still young.
No, this doesn't sit well with me. I guess somebody else will be taking care of her children while she is in the office. But then let's stop the pretense that she is on the side of family values. >:(
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So far, I am impressed with Governor Palin. And I disagree with her being an affirmative action choice. Scriabin, you sound like Adam613 with such comments. Palin has solid conservative credentials.
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I think that would make a good interview question, how she finds time to spend with her children to teach them her values and to care for them while doing her other job.
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This played out in a real-life drama for Palin and her husband when in April of this year she delivered her 5th child who has Down Syndrome.
This April she gave birth? Am I being slow here, or does this mean that the woman was pregnant and gave birth while holding the position of the Governor of Alaska?? Isn't this irresponsible??!! And is she going to become a Vice President of the United States while being a mother of a very young and disabled child? Could this be right? I say, it's irresponsible. If you are a mother of 5 children and one of them is disabled then could it be that not all life's opportunities are open to you? I am happy that a smart white woman has 5 kids. But maybe she should postpone pursuing her political career until her "mommy track" is completed? She is still young.
No, this doesn't sit well with me. I guess somebody else will be taking care of her children while she is in the office. But then let's stop the pretense that she is on the side of family values. >:(
Have the husband raise the kids
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Masha, why do you say she's against family values. She chose life over abortion. Her oldest son has joined the army and will be serving in Iraq.
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Now's the time to come out with contraversial JTF videos about Sarah Palin promoting Jews Against Obama.
There will be millions of searches for her over the next few days.
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Now's the time to come out with contraversial JTF videos about Sarah Palin promoting Jews Against Obama.
There will be millions of searches for her over the next few days.
I hope I'll have time to work on something like that, with school, etc. but you're right, now is the best time.
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Masha, why do you say she's against family values. She chose life over abortion. Her oldest son has joined the army and will be serving in Iraq.
If she is pro family values, how could she even think of being the Vice President, while having a little baby who is very sick. Everybody was criticizing Blair when Cherie had a baby, saying that he won't have time for his duties. Ans now it's a new mother running for the office. My relatives have a Down child. The mother had to quit her job completely and stay with the child full time, because they need constant attention.
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I think that would make a good interview question, how she finds time to spend with her children to teach them her values and to care for them while doing her other job.
She'll just say she is very efficient. But I know the truth: you can't. You skimp on something. She'll skimp on her parental duties. I think this is wrong. Mothers of 5 young children should postpone their careers or do them part time.
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Masha, she's already governor. Obviously she is managing somehow.
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I think she is the best bet to keep Obama out of the Whitey House. She is much more conservative than some of the other choices. No offense, but better a conservative Christian than a liberal Jew.
Also, SHE IS A LIFETIME MEMBER OF THE NRA.
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e263/joseph96/lifememberNRA.jpg)
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WOW, just wow. Talk about shaking things up...
If she is some crazy feminist, im not voting for McCain---as much as i want him to win over Obama. If she isnt a feminist, then i have no problem with the pick. I simply dont know enough about her.
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Masha, why do you say she's against family values. She chose life over abortion. Her oldest son has joined the army and will be serving in Iraq.
If she is pro family values, how could she even think of being the Vice President, while having a little baby who is very sick. Everybody was criticizing Blair when Cherie had a baby, saying that he won't have time for his duties. Ans now it's a new mother running for the office. My relatives have a Down child. The mother had to quit her job completely and stay with the child full time, because they need constant attention.
Great point Masha. O0 We had a second daughter in January, and it is a full-time job for my wife. I even hired a house help to allow her to have some time for herself, because it is very exhausting. Palin has 5 children and one of the is an infant?! I was very uneasy with this McCain choice to start with - it made so little sense to me, but your point really underscores my concern. I thought McCain needed an attack dog, not a mayor of a small Alaskan community. Biden will have a feat her during the debates. Obama 08, I guess :(
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So far, I am impressed with Governor Palin. And I disagree with her being an affirmative action choice. Scriabin, you sound like Adam613 with such comments. Palin has solid conservative credentials.
She has five childen, what are their ages?
If they're all gown up, that's fine. If not, they need their mother, not a politician.
I am suspicious of anyone who is alligned with McCain.
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She was in vogue (http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7311/sarahpalinvogueus1.jpg)
Shot at 2008-08-29
http://www.ktva.com/alaska/ci_7716436
That looks photoshopped, look at the face to the rest of the body.
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She was in vogue (http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7311/sarahpalinvogueus1.jpg)
Shot at 2008-08-29
http://www.ktva.com/alaska/ci_7716436
That looks photoshopped, look at the face to the rest of the body.
It is photoshopped
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So far, I get the impression that beneath the pretty exterior, Governor Palin is hard as nails.
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Guys do your due diligence on Palin. The woman is a conservative with family values and tough
She is PRO life.
She is PRO Drilling - she got a pipeline permit through in 6 months when it should have taken 10 years.
She is pro 2nd amendment - lifetime member of the NRA
She is fiscally responsible - fixed corruption and finance reform for Alaska
She is Anti Corruption.
And she is one tough take no prisoners woman that will not compromise her beliefs
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Guys do your due diligence on Palin. The woman is a conservative with family values and tough
She is PRO life.
She is PRO Drilling - she got a pipeline permit through in 6 months when it should have taken 10 years.
She is pro 2nd amendment - lifetime member of the NRA
She is fiscally responsible - fixed corruption and finance reform for Alaska
She is Anti Corruption.
And she is one tough take no prisoners woman that will not compromise her beliefs
Thats GREAT
but is she a loony feminist ?
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Guys do your due diligence on Palin. The woman is a conservative with family values and tough
She is PRO life.
She is PRO Drilling - she got a pipeline permit through in 6 months when it should have taken 10 years.
She is pro 2nd amendment - lifetime member of the NRA
She is fiscally responsible - fixed corruption and finance reform for Alaska
She is Anti Corruption.
And she is one tough take no prisoners woman that will not compromise her beliefs
Thats GREAT
but is she a loony feminist ?
I doubt she is because most feminist if not all are pro choice
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Guys do your due diligence on Palin. The woman is a conservative with family values and tough
She is PRO life.
She is PRO Drilling - she got a pipeline permit through in 6 months when it should have taken 10 years.
She is pro 2nd amendment - lifetime member of the NRA
She is fiscally responsible - fixed corruption and finance reform for Alaska
She is Anti Corruption.
And she is one tough take no prisoners woman that will not compromise her beliefs
Thats GREAT
but is she a loony feminist ?
You can read about her here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
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Guys do your due diligence on Palin. The woman is a conservative with family values and tough
She is PRO life.
She is PRO Drilling - she got a pipeline permit through in 6 months when it should have taken 10 years.
She is pro 2nd amendment - lifetime member of the NRA
She is fiscally responsible - fixed corruption and finance reform for Alaska
She is Anti Corruption.
And she is one tough take no prisoners woman that will not compromise her beliefs
SHE HAS MY APPROVAL BIG TIME
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Masha, why do you say she's against family values. She chose life over abortion. Her oldest son has joined the army and will be serving in Iraq.
If she is pro family values, how could she even think of being the Vice President, while having a little baby who is very sick. Everybody was criticizing Blair when Cherie had a baby, saying that he won't have time for his duties. Ans now it's a new mother running for the office. My relatives have a Down child. The mother had to quit her job completely and stay with the child full time, because they need constant attention.
Great point Masha. O0 We had a second daughter in January, and it is a full-time job for my wife. I even hired a house help to allow her to have some time for herself, because it is very exhausting. Palin has 5 children and one of the is an infant?! I was very uneasy with this McCain choice to start with - it made so little sense to me, but your point really underscores my concern. I thought McCain needed an attack dog, not a mayor of a small Alaskan community. Biden will have a feat her during the debates. Obama 08, I guess :(
She should be at home, taking care of her baby. She hs no business being a governemr, let alone the Vice President. And I don't care what her stand on anything is.
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So far, I am impressed with Governor Palin. And I disagree with her being an affirmative action choice. Scriabin, you sound like Adam613 with such comments. Palin has solid conservative credentials.
I am suspicious of anyone who is alligned with McCain.
I seriously doubt she ever met McCain before today. What do you consider "aligned" with McCain? ANy person who becomes his VP? The woman is nothing like him. This was the best possible choice he could have made. He needed a woman.
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Masha, does your wife walk 3 steps behind you?
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SHE IS A GREAT PICK
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A lot of you are clueless about how elections work in this country. They are popularity contests based mostly on fluff and a few issues.
Biden will destroy her in the debates? And who in this mostly moron filled country makes up their mind based on the debate? Who even watches the VP debates? Do you think a female house wife with 3 kids a 2 jobs in Ohio is going to have time to watch the VP debate or even care about it?
Let me break it down to you real easy...
McCain is old and bitter in the eyes of many. Obama is young strong and good looking in the eyes of many. People are tired of having an old idiot in the whitehouse backed up by another sickly old creep at VP. Out of McCain and Obama who resembles Bush/Cheney more? How many Americans seem to care about experience in this scenario?
We have a lot of bitter women who want Clinton to be prez. They feel betrayed by Obama for selecting Biden who happens to be an old white idiot of a man.
McCain needs to distract people from his age, McCain needs to find a way to get votes from Clinton Supporters, and McCain needs to project excitement. How can he do this? By Picking Tom Ridge the stooge of Bush? By Picking a Plastic Haired Mormon? By Picking a no-name white man From Minnesota? No... By Picking a young GOOD LOOKING Fresh face FEMALE from Alaska. He wants to win people! This is how you win in America in 2008. Obama brings a lot of fluff well now McCain has countered in a MAJOR way.
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Gov. Palin looks and sounds Great!
I'd definitely would vote for her over Hillary any day... O0
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Any Pick of McCain that shares conservative view points is Welcome in my Book... Go Palin, Go McCain in 08!
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Masha, does your wife walk 3 steps behind you?
I am a wife. I stayed at home or worked part time when my kids were little. I know what I'm talking about.
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I must say, I am surprised at the response of people at this supposedly conservative website.
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I must say, I am surprised at the response of people at this supposedly conservative website.
How so?
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Masha, Scriabin, and Shiptar, you are not being rational in your sexism. And you are all sounding like Adam613. This is not a time and place for this petty fighting. Whether it's right or not, women work outside the home these days and hold positions of the highest level. We need to unite around Palin right now, who is a pretty darn good choice.
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She sure is nicer to look at than Joseph Biden. :::D
i have to agree with you here ;D she's very smart and am sure will kick a** Barack H. Obama and Regular Joe Biden are nothing like us. hypocrites >:(
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Masha assumes we are all of the mindset that a woman's place is only in the home. I don't think being a conservative precludes one from believing women have every right to a career or life outside the home. If a woman is a good conservative and has good beliefs I'd rather have them leading the country than a piece of garbage man.
I cannot believe Obama's stupidity in not picking Hillary as his running mate. This pick utterly nullified Biden who is known for being a blowhard and a bomb-dropper. Gov. Palin looks intelligent and graceful and he looks bitter and cranky.
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Masha, does your wife walk 3 steps behind you?
I am a wife. I stayed at home or worked part time when my kids were little. I know what I'm talking about.
My apologies Masha, I did not mean to insult you, but I do think you can do both successfully. My wife has a career and owns a very successful business. I commute 105 miles back and forth to work every day. We have some domestic help, but I clean house, cook, wash dogs, take kids to school and events. We go camping, fishing and shooting. So our time together is quality time. The kids, even though young, help out with the business. I want them to know that they are always going to have to work hard to be successful. So we all spend a lot of time together which I think is the important part.
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Masha, does your wife walk 3 steps behind you?
I am a wife. I stayed at home or worked part time when my kids were little. I know what I'm talking about.
My apologies Masha, I did not mean to insult you, but I do think you can do both successfully. My wife has a career and owns a very successful business. I commute 105 miles back and forth to work every day. We have some domestic help, but I clean house, cook, wash dogs, take kids to school and events. We go camping, fishing and shooting. So our time together is quality time. The kids, even though young, help out with the business. I want them to know that they are always going to have to work hard to be successful. So we all spend a lot of time together which I think is the important part.
You go shooting?
Shooting what?Mussies
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Masha, Scriabin, and Shiptar, you are not being rational in your sexism. And you are all sounding like Adam613. This is not a time and place for this petty fighting. Whether it's right or not, women work outside the home these days and hold positions of the highest level. We need to unite around Palin right now, who is a pretty darn good choice.
C.F., I know that women work outside home. I have a PhD. G-d willing, I'll have a book published, if everything goes as planned. At the same time, I took it really slow when my kids were young. And I'm still working shorter hours. I could have probably achieved a lot more and a lot sooner if I were a guy or a single gal, but I've made my peace with it. I wanted to be a mother and I am proud of being a mother. There aren't any shortcuts. If a woman wants to be a mother, she has to make certain sacrifices. Men too, and I do believe in the sharing of responsibilities. But men and women are not equal in the parenting roles.
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Masha, does your wife walk 3 steps behind you?
I am a wife. I stayed at home or worked part time when my kids were little. I know what I'm talking about.
My apologies Masha, I did not mean to insult you, but I do think you can do both successfully. My wife has a career and owns a very successful business. I commute 105 miles back and forth to work every day. We have some domestic help, but I clean house, cook, wash dogs, take kids to school and events. We go camping, fishing and shooting. So our time together is quality time. The kids, even though young, help out with the business. I want them to know that they are always going to have to work hard to be successful. So we all spend a lot of time together which I think is the important part.
You go shooting?
Shooting what?Mussies
I am a member of a local gun club. The club and range is about 3 miles from my house. The kids all have their own guns and love to shoot.
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Masha, does your wife walk 3 steps behind you?
I am a wife. I stayed at home or worked part time when my kids were little. I know what I'm talking about.
My apologies Masha, I did not mean to insult you, but I do think you can do both successfully. My wife has a career and owns a very successful business. I commute 105 miles back and forth to work every day. We have some domestic help, but I clean house, cook, wash dogs, take kids to school and events. We go camping, fishing and shooting. So our time together is quality time. The kids, even though young, help out with the business. I want them to know that they are always going to have to work hard to be successful. So we all spend a lot of time together which I think is the important part.
You go shooting?
Shooting what?Mussies
I am a member of a local gun club. The club and range is about 3 miles from my house. The kids all have their own guns and love to shoot.
I would not want to be a burglar and break in to you home your family will turn me into Swiss cheese
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Masha, does your wife walk 3 steps behind you?
I am a wife. I stayed at home or worked part time when my kids were little. I know what I'm talking about.
My apologies Masha, I did not mean to insult you, but I do think you can do both successfully. My wife has a career and owns a very successful business. I commute 105 miles back and forth to work every day. We have some domestic help, but I clean house, cook, wash dogs, take kids to school and events. We go camping, fishing and shooting. So our time together is quality time. The kids, even though young, help out with the business. I want them to know that they are always going to have to work hard to be successful. So we all spend a lot of time together which I think is the important part.
I think very highly of you for helping around the house. And I am always very happy to hear about women who can both have careers and have time for their kids. I root for them. However, not everyone can make it work. And being the VP while having a Down baby is a whole different ball game.
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Because of John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate, I proudly made a donation to the John McCain 2008 Presidential Campaign. Thank You, John McCain!
Though I still disagree with John McCain on many positions, I'm no longer looking at this election as voting for McCain as the much lesser of the evils, compared to the hideous Barack Hussein Obama. I actually believe that there's now a chance that this country can be headed in the right direction again.
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I think McCain's choice of Governor Sarah Palin was brilliant.
First off, the Obama people can no longer spout their mantra of "change" being that their man selected Washington old timer Joe Biden as his running mate. Also, Obama will no longer be the fresh faced new kid on the block. For the next few days, at least, the focus will be on Palin. And all this has taken place right after the Democratic Convention, where Obama was hoping to keep his press coverage going.
Also, the Democrats will have to basically walk on eggshells in going after Palin. After all, they're the last group that wants to come across as sexists.
Finally, we should remember that Queen Victoria had nine children, and ruled England when that country was at its most powerful.
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Masha, does your wife walk 3 steps behind you?
I am a wife. I stayed at home or worked part time when my kids were little. I know what I'm talking about.
My apologies Masha, I did not mean to insult you, but I do think you can do both successfully. My wife has a career and owns a very successful business. I commute 105 miles back and forth to work every day. We have some domestic help, but I clean house, cook, wash dogs, take kids to school and events. We go camping, fishing and shooting. So our time together is quality time. The kids, even though young, help out with the business. I want them to know that they are always going to have to work hard to be successful. So we all spend a lot of time together which I think is the important part.
I think very highly of you for helping around the house. And I am always very happy to hear about women who can both have careers and have time for their kids. I root for them. However, not everyone can make it work. And being the VP while having a Down baby is a whole different ball game.
I will pray for McCain and Palin, thier success and happiness. The other option is satanic.
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I think McCain's choice of Governor Sarah Palin was brilliant.
First off, the Obama people can no longer spout their mantra of "change" being that their man selected Washington old timer Joe Biden as his running mate. Also, Obama will no longer be the fresh faced new kid on the block. For the next few days, at least, the focus will be on Palin. And all this has taken place right after the Democratic Convention, where Obama was hoping to keep his press coverage going.
Also, the Democrats will have to basically walk on eggshells in going after Palin. After all, they're the last group that wants to come across as sexists.
Finally, we should remember that Queen Victoria had nine children, and ruled England when that country was at its most powerful.
OMG, the people over at hillaryclintonforum.com are so excited. My god!!!
And I told my life-long democrat mother this... and she was actually considering voting Mccaine.
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The more I think about this, the more brilliant it is.
The Media desperately wants to paint Palin as an inexperienced Dan Quayle... but they can't do this... because Obama has even less experience.
HAHAHAHAHAH
this is hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!! :::D
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C.F., I know that women work outside home. I have a PhD. G-d willing, I'll have a book published, if everything goes as planned. At the same time, I took it really slow when my kids were young. And I'm still working shorter hours. I could have probably achieved a lot more and a lot sooner if I were a guy or a single gal, but I've made my peace with it. I wanted to be a mother and I am proud of being a mother. There aren't any shortcuts. If a woman wants to be a mother, she has to make certain sacrifices. Men too, and I do believe in the sharing of responsibilities. But men and women are not equal in the parenting roles.
But your path isn't for everybody. Some people can juggle it all. Even if they can't, some do it anyway. Your opposing Palin being VP pick won't undo her being governor already. We need to roll with the punches and be thankful for what we have.
Another thing I should add is--I don't know if this is you (maybe it isn't), but generally people who feel the way you do feel that all women have to have children or at least try to. I don't agree with this.
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Masha, Scriabin, and Shiptar, you are not being rational in your sexism. And you are all sounding like Adam613. This is not a time and place for this petty fighting.
I'm not fighting, just stating my opinion.
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The more I think about this, the more brilliant it is.
The Media desperately wants to paint Palin as an inexperienced Dan Quayle... but they can't do this... because Obama has even less experience.
HAHAHAHAHAH
this is hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!! :::D
This woman has been more successful in the short time she has been governor of Alaska then the majority of 30-40 year politicians. She has made some great improvments there. The previous governor was a crook and bought a jet so the govenor could ride in style. She sold it on eBay when she took office and flys commercial.
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Very smart choice by McCain Imo...in fact I was just saying last night that he should pick a w.a.s.p.y. female...to help offset some of the allure that obama offers a lot of the young people, and people who want to see "change".
I also like the fact that she is very conservative.
Lieberman would have been a huge mistake and would have cost him votes
Ridge would have cost him votes as well due to his pro-choice policies
Romney is boring and would have done nothing for his campaign.
Adding a young, female gives his ticket that celebrity/rock-star edge that Obama has.
Very wise choice by McCain
All aboard the stop Obama express! ;D
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Finally, we should remember that Queen Victoria had nine children, and ruled England when that country was at its most powerful.
Was she a 'loving' mother?
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McCain is a snake. he has thrown the election with this pick.
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If she was a man we would all say great shes everything we could ask for very strong conservative
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McCain is a snake. he has thrown the election with this pick.
I disagree, I think if anything this pick will win him the election. I guarantee you obama is shacking in his boots atm O0
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McCain is a snake. he has thrown the election with this pick.
Please elaborate. All of us have given reasons why this move helps McCain. Please explain why you this this has thrown the election. Thanks
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In hindsight, he could have chosen Joe Lieberman or Mike Bloomberg. :o :o :o
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In hindsight, he could have chosen Joe Lieberman. :o :o :o
joe would have been an unwise choice for several reasons.
1-he is Jewish. sure thats great for you and me...but the reality of anti-semitism exists...and it woulda cost mccain some votes. Plus Joe is pro-choice if I am not mistaken...yet more votes down the tube from all the hardcore conservatives that would never vote for a pro-choicer/
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Well she is Pro Life, Against Gay Marraige, Good on Spending, Against Gun Control. And she is young and could take over the Presidency in a heartbeat. Plus she is good looking that never hurt anyone
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So the big objection to Palin raised in this thread is that she won't be able to be a good mother to her children if she becomes VP ?
How has she done so far raising her kids while being Governor of Alaska ?
If that's the best critque of, and concern about Palin, McCain might have made a wise decision.
I don't know enough about Palin to form a solid opinion about her, but I'm definitely not going to second guess her selection based on the assumption that she can't be a good mother and an executive politician simultaneously.
Somehow, I have a feeling that her kids will get all the mothering, nurturing and care that they need.
I'm more concerned about her performance so far as Governor of Alaska, whether she's anti-Islam and pro-Israel, and what type of President she might make.
Whether she can be a good mother to a child with Down's syndrome, if she's elected, is the least of my concerns.
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Somehow, I have a feeling that her kids will get all the mothering, nurturing and care that they need.
I bet they won't. What time would she get home? What time would she leave? There is only 24 hours in the day.
I can't believe I am alone on this board arguing this point. I guess some people's conservatism doesn't go very deep. What does conservative values mean to you? But, most importantly, how can I trust a woman who runs on a conservative platform and does something antithetical to conservative principles? I guess, she is a total hypocrite. I am simply amazed that no one on this forum thinks it's morally wrong for a mother of a sick baby to run for the second most stressful and time consuming job in the world.
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Somehow, I have a feeling that her kids will get all the mothering, nurturing and care that they need.
I bet they won't. What time would she get home? What time would she leave? There is only 24 hours in the day.
I can't believe I am alone on this board arguing this point. I guess some people's conservatism doesn't go very deep. What does conservative values mean to you? But, most importantly, how can I trust a woman who runs on a conservative platform and does something antithetical to conservative principles? I guess, she is a total hypocrite. I am simply amazed that no one on this forum thinks it's morally wrong for a mother of a sick baby to run for the second most stressful and time consuming job in the world.
Well Masha, according to you her children must have been neglected while she was Governor of Alaska.
Are you of the opinion that her child with Down's syndrome hasn't received the best possible care and nurturing because she was too busy being Governor ?
You might think that Palin is a hypocrite for not devoting her every waking moment to personally care for her Down's child. Palin might not meet your standards of doting motherhood. You're entitled to that opinion.
Using your standards it would be impossible for the mother of any young or ill children to hold a demanding job and not be a hypocrite and phony conservative.
I think you're being unrealistic, and naive about the resources available to the political elite of this nation, if you think her kids are being neglected in any way.
But of course, you're entitled to your opinion, and I do share your sentiment that it is wrong for women to put their careers ahead of providing the best possible maternal care to their children.
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I bet they won't. What time would she get home? What time would she leave? There is only 24 hours in the day.
I can't believe I am alone on this board arguing this point. I guess some people's conservatism doesn't go very deep. What does conservative values mean to you? But, most importantly, how can I trust a woman who runs on a conservative platform and does something antithetical to conservative principles? I guess, she is a total hypocrite. I am simply amazed that no one on this forum thinks it's morally wrong for a mother of a sick baby to run for the second most stressful and time consuming job in the world.
This is getting kind of silly, don't you think?
Down's doesn't equal sickness. DS is a chromosomal condition that often (not always) brings mental disability and physical ailments such as in the heart, but the latter almost always occur later in life. You have no basis for declaring that this infant is "sick".
I can guarantee you that 85% of conservatives do not believe that everybody has to have kids, that women are supposed to stay home barefoot and pregnant, or that mothers can never work. What is more important to you, fighting fellow conservatives or working for Obama's defeat?
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the second most stressful and time consuming job in the world.
PS this is way, waaay off. Unless the prez croaks or there is a tie in the Senate, the veep doesn't do jack squat.
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Was she a 'loving' mother?
You're not fooling anybody. This isn't about her being a "good mother". It's about her being a woman.
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the second most stressful and time consuming job in the world.
PS this is way, waaay off. Unless the prez croaks or there is a tie in the Senate, the veep doesn't do jack squat.
CF is correct about this. VP gets to lay low most of the time. Probably not even in the top ten of stressful leadership jobs in the USA.
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Here's my two cents.
Governor Palin seems like a nice, Bible believing, conservative Christian woman. So considering her already large (by today's standards) family, and how she refused to abort this baby, I think it's pretty safe to say that she wouldn't have become McCain's running mate if she believed her family would suffer.
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So the big objection to Palin raised in this thread is that she won't be able to be a good mother to her children if she becomes VP ?
How has she done so far raising her kids while being Governor of Alaska ?
If that's the best critque of, and concern about Palin, McCain might have made a wise decision.
I don't know enough about Palin to form a solid opinion about her, but I'm definitely not going to second guess her selection based on the assumption that she can't be a good mother and an executive politician simultaneously.
Somehow, I have a feeling that her kids will get all the mothering, nurturing and care that they need.
I'm more concerned about her performance so far as Governor of Alaska, whether she's anti-Islam and pro-Israel, and what type of President she might make.
Whether she can be a good mother to a child with Down's syndrome, if she's elected, is the least of my concerns.
I would have loved for my mother to have been POTUS or VPOTUS with all those secret service agents around. It would be a chance to get some range time in with a full auto MP5 or UZI. (http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff148/lordfrappo/Heavy.gif)
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Somehow, I have a feeling that her kids will get all the mothering, nurturing and care that they need.
I bet they won't. What time would she get home? What time would she leave? There is only 24 hours in the day.
I can't believe I am alone on this board arguing this point. I guess some people's conservatism doesn't go very deep. What does conservative values mean to you? But, most importantly, how can I trust a woman who runs on a conservative platform and does something antithetical to conservative principles? I guess, she is a total hypocrite. I am simply amazed that no one on this forum thinks it's morally wrong for a mother of a sick baby to run for the second most stressful and time consuming job in the world.
Shalom Masha, even poor people must go to work and leave their sick children in the care of others. This does not make a bad parent. Our New VP candidate has made a choice to make a difference for all Americans, we are up against some really evil people now, we need all the help we can get and I appreciate her difficult decision ( that must affect her deeply ) regarding not caring personally for her child. I think her decision was based on what is best for our Country. She will have some element of guilt for not being with her child on a daily basis. I stayed home with my children while they were young and growing up. But others may not have that same oppertunity.
Some parents who stay home beat their children, or do worse things. I am sure her special needs child will have the absolute best care. Each parent does their best for their children given their circumstances.
Shalom from Dox
P.S. Shabbat Shalom
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Here's my two cents.
Governor Palin seems like a nice, Bible believing, conservative Christian woman. So considering her already large (by today's standards) family, and how she refused to abort this baby, I think it's pretty safe to say that she wouldn't have become McCain's running mate if she believed her family would suffer.
I agree. And I think she's going to do a very good job debating Biden, and will be an asset to the ticket.
Osama Hussein must be defeated.
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Also, we should be showing Governor Palin more respect for keeping this baby when most mothers abort their Down's babies. As Vice President, Palin will have access to the best medical care this country has to offer.
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That's what I said from the get-go, Lisa. This proves that she is a righteous and genuinely pro-life woman. O0
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So the big objection to Palin raised in this thread is that she won't be able to be a good mother to her children if she becomes VP ?
How has she done so far raising her kids while being Governor of Alaska ?
If that's the best critque of, and concern about Palin, McCain might have made a wise decision.
I don't know enough about Palin to form a solid opinion about her, but I'm definitely not going to second guess her selection based on the assumption that she can't be a good mother and an executive politician simultaneously.
Somehow, I have a feeling that her kids will get all the mothering, nurturing and care that they need.
I'm more concerned about her performance so far as Governor of Alaska, whether she's anti-Islam and pro-Israel, and what type of President she might make.
Whether she can be a good mother to a child with Down's syndrome, if she's elected, is the least of my concerns.
Sarah Palin is a member of the Assemblies of G-d Christian denomination, which is Pro-Israel . O0
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Also, we should be showing Governor Palin more respect for keeping this baby when most mothers abort their Down's babies. As Vice President, Palin will have access to the best medical care this country has to offer.
Shalom Lisa, at first I was not sure if a woman was a good pick, but I have been hearing only good things about her so I am optimistic now that she is going to be an asset for McCain and our Country. Palin could have got rid of her child because it was not perfect, but she chose to have a special needs baby despite the difficulties she would be faced with. Palin's decision is the perfect example of a ( sparkling neshoma ) this is what G-d desires in all human beings.
I admire her and am more confident now that we will win this election. G-d willing please !
Shalom from Dox
P.S. Shabbat Shalom Lisa
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Isn't it FANTASTIC and WONDERFUL how God works!!! O0
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That's what I said from the get-go, Lisa. This proves that she is a righteous and genuinely pro-life woman. thumbsup
That's right, C.F. This is a genuinely pro life woman who practices what she preaches. So I don't think it's fair to accuse her of lacking in family values, or of being a bad mother.
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That's what I said from the get-go, Lisa. This proves that she is a righteous and genuinely pro-life woman. O0
I think this is a brilliant choice because it will clearly polarize voters. Voters are now presented with the question, "Are you on the side of death or are you on the side of life?" Obama is not just pro-abortion; he also supports partial birth abortion, and was the only senator to vote against medical care for babies who have survived the abortion procedure. In other words, Obama is for murder. I hope the McCain team makes a big deal out of this, and I think that they will. Palin will be criticized for "lack of experience", but I don't think that this is going to turn voters off as much as the democrats think it will. On the contrary, she will be seen as "untainted". If voters bother to put even an ounce of thought into this election, they will vote republican.
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Isn't it FANTASTIC and WONDERFUL how G-d works!!! O0
Absolutely!
Words can't even describe how grateful I am to G-d and how excited I am about John McCain selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate.
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Masha, why do you say she's against family values. She chose life over abortion. Her oldest son has joined the army and will be serving in Iraq.
If she is pro family values, how could she even think of being the Vice President, while having a little baby who is very sick. Everybody was criticizing Blair when Cherie had a baby, saying that he won't have time for his duties. Ans now it's a new mother running for the office. My relatives have a Down child. The mother had to quit her job completely and stay with the child full time, because they need constant attention.
Masha - her baby is not sick. It has Down Syndrome.
Maybe she can hire a Nanny to help care for her children.
Michelle Obama may be free during the next four years. ;)
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He made a huge mistake. He should have gone with Romney.
I agree. Without Romney, McCain is weak against Obama.
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He made a huge mistake. He should have gone with Romney.
I agree. Without Romney, McCain is weak against Obama.
I disagree. Romney is not tremendously popular. There was little excitement over him. Huckabee was much more likeable. Palin, on the other hand, is smart, earnest, decent, and easy on the eyes. I think McCain made a bold and inspired choice.
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He made a huge mistake. He should have gone with Romney.
I agree. Without Romney, McCain is weak against Obama.
I disagree. Romney is not tremendously popular. There was little excitement over him. Huckabee was much more likeable. Palin, on the other hand, is smart, earnest, decent, and easy on the eyes. I think McCain made a bold and inspired choice.
I agree!
There isn't much negative press on Palin, but I'm sure the evil media will come up with something...
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The press keeps saying her selection has invalidated McCain's claim that Obama doesn't have any credentials or experience. For one thing, she is running for VP not POTUS. And for another thing, she has accomplished more in the last 20 months as governor in Alaska then Obama has in his whole life. And that probably goes for every darn democratic senator and congressman as well. >:(
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Too bad McCain will still lose.
He might lost if we don't get off our duffs, vote - and get out the vote!.
You can take it to the bank; every black church, every black organization, every Muslim Mosque, every Muslim organization in every town and city across this country will get their people to the polls- even bus 'em in.
Every person who stays home, votes third party or 'write in' in helping to put Barack Hussein Obama into the White House.
McCain is the only thing standing in his way.
Hit the forums. Hit the newspapers. Spread the word. Expose this monster to all your contacts.
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Question #1- how many Presidents were parents of young children when they were in office.
A vast majority of them.
Question #2 - do people who have much harder and lower paying jobs than the VP who have children have to work for a living.
A vast majority of them.
Question #3 - just exactly what constitutes acceptable experience for the President and Vice President position?
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Me and my wife both work, raised two children who are both doing well, one just started college, and we do not make anywhere the kind of money the VP does or have the kind of support system the VP does.
There is a father in the picture. Maybe there is extended family around to help also?
Being that one of my children is a female, who want's to be an engineer, I am kind of relieved that some of the people I just heard from here are not in policy making positions.
Minutes after the announcement was made some idiot from NOW was already attacking her saying she does not really count as a woman because of her pro life stance.
So far, everything I have heard about this woman is a positive.
I am mostly concerned with the two thgings I have not heard anything about concerning her, and I have been looking, is her view/stance/opinion, etc. on
islam and illegal immigration.
Also, regardless of all the photoshopped stuff hitting the internet, and I say this as a committeed happily married man, for a 44 year old with five kids she is hot.
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Excellent post firster555.
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He made a huge mistake. He should have gone with Romney.
I agree. Without Romney, McCain is weak against Obama.
I disagree. Romney is not tremendously popular. There was little excitement over him. Huckabee was much more likeable. Palin, on the other hand, is smart, earnest, decent, and easy on the eyes. I think McCain made a bold and inspired choice.
I agree!
There isn't much negative press on Palin, but I'm sure the evil media will come up with something...
Great Quote O0
Shalom from Dox
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I think a lot of this nitpicking about Palin is a bit petty. If she is qualified and looks like she is I been going over her resume and there isnt really that much negative to say about her. She fought corruption even in her own party and won, she is strongly against abortion, her own son is off to fight in Iraq, she is against gun laws. And someone like Romney may not also get the energy up against bible believing Christians, she will get that and no one loses the South and becomes president. So far I like her I can care less if she is a woman. If she has that strong conservative background then I am willing to give her a try.
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So far, everything I have heard about this woman is a positive.
I am mostly concerned with the two thgings I have not heard anything about concerning her, and I have been looking, is her view/stance/opinion, etc. on
islam and illegal immigration.
These are my sentiments exactly. She's great on all the social issues, but I'd like to hear how she feels about the national security/foreign policy issues like Iran, Israel, and the border issue. She could be another Pat Buchanan for all we know.
A VP doesn't have as much clout on foreign issues as the president
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I always said that Feminism is THE issue.
This presidential race proves it.
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Will someone ban the nazi Rubin-k?(yimach shmo vezichro)
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May Rubin-k die a painful death with anal cancer spreading into his genitals. Yimach shmo to this porn posting animal.
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Can someone remove the above porn post by rubin-k?
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May Rubin-k die a painful death with anal cancer spreading into his genitals. Yimach shmo to this porn posting animal.
If you and I were moderators, this would be a non-issue.
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At least its gay porn.
Pictures of naked girls might actually get to me.
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I just deleted about 50 posts with porns ...so I'm doing my best, OK Scriabin?
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I've been thinking this over and I finally decided that I'm happy with it. At first I wasn't because I thought, as Scriabin did, that it may have been a choice based on affirmative action and not necessarily based on the best pick. However I really like everything I've heard about her.
My only concern now is that many evil and nasty people are saying evil and nasty things about her son. :(
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I just deleted about 50 posts with porns ...so I'm doing my best, OK Scriabin?
You are not the problem.
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I hope somebody banned him, because I don't see him posting anymore! Thanks to anyone who banned the bastard!
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I just deleted about 50 posts with porns ...so I'm doing my best, OK Scriabin?
Wow Jasmina that's a lot of work! Good job! I just got home from working all day so thankfully I didn't have to see any of the nastiness. Was it the same images that were posted on the splinter forum and this one before? That could mean it's the same person if they were the same images exactly.
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I don't know!
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May Rubin-k die a painful death with anal cancer spreading into his genitals. Yimach shmo to this porn posting animal.
If you and I were moderators, this would be a non-issue.
Scriabin, unfortunately I don't have the time to commit to moderating so I hope I am never even asked. I haven't been on here as much due to my starting of school. I feel bad that Jasmina had to do all that work. Somebody with banning power should be here and that would of spared her the effort.
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Liberal Democrats can't stand the fact that a woman was selected. The DNC is trying to vilify just like they vilified Clarence Thomas.
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Any thinking person is the antithesis of Hillary.
This Alaska broad was selected only because she is a woman.
That's called Affirmative Action.
Stop making up lies. Palin is a maverick who is against government waste and is against corruption.
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Even though I liked Romney,
the Obama Team was loaded
for bear and ready to unload
on him. Theyve spent months and millions accumulating negative bs
information and were targetting him with an inevitable.
barrage of attacks on all fronts, which might have worked...
Who knows. .
This pick I think shakes up his team till they come up with a strategy.
Does the Obamegalomaniac want to prove that he is a
Misogynist, by trying to destroy a second woman,
after already having alienated 3 to 4 million Clinton voters
and literally completely devaluing the Clinton effort.
Also any personal attacks could also boomerang and focus spotlight
on the Obamegalomaniac, who has never had a real job in his
life....for example he almost called Thomas "not experienced" in the Saddleback forum..
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Even though I liked Romney,
the Obama Team was loaded
for bear and ready to unload
on him. Theyve spent months and millions accumulating negative bs
information and were targetting him with an inevitable.
barrage of attacks on all fronts, which might have worked...
Who knows. .
This pick I think shakes up his team till they come up with a strategy.
Does the Obamegalomaniac want to prove that he is a
Misogynist, by trying to destroy a second woman,
after already having alienated 3 to 4 million Clinton voters
and literally completely devaluing the Clinton effort.
Also any personal attacks could also boomerang and focus spotlight
on the Obamegalomaniac, who has never had a real job in his
life....for example he almost called Thomas "not experienced" in the Saddleback forum..
Clarence Thomas was definitely more experienced to be on the Supreme Court than Obama is to be president.
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This woman has been more successful in the short time she has been governor of Alaska then the majority of 30-40 year politicians. She has made some great improvments there. The previous governor was a crook and bought a jet so the govenor could ride in style. She sold it on eBay when she took office and flys commercial.
Exactly. Obama is so desperate to call anyone Bush Jr.
That's a pathetic comparison.
Obama expects people to ignore his record. He was assigned to be in charge of a sub-committee about Afghanistan. Yet, he never held one hearing for the committee.
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So far, everything I have heard about this woman is a positive.
I am mostly concerned with the two thgings I have not heard anything about concerning her, and I have been looking, is her view/stance/opinion, etc. on
islam and illegal immigration.
These are my sentiments exactly. She's great on all the social issues, but I'd like to hear how she feels about the national security/foreign policy issues like Iran, Israel, and the border issue. She could be another Pat Buchanan for all we know.
A VP doesn't have as much clout on foreign issues as the president
True, other than being only a heartbeat(a 72 year old heartbeat) away from the Presidency.
Other than being a tie breaking vote in the Senate which votes on foriegn policy issues.
I am not trying to put her down, I like everything I do know about her, just very curious and concerned about the two important issues that I do not know her stance on.
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Th picking of the Romney the phony republican mormon woud be the last straw breaking the back of Mcpain campaign. These Palin lady looks like more pretty and conservative version of Maccaby and can bring Juan much needed christian, young and women votes... Now he has fighting chance against los obamistas.
We simply cannot efford to suffer another Jim Carter now and hope for new Regan revolution when the axis of evil is geting bolder as we speak.
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I've been thinking this over and I finally decided that I'm happy with it. At first I wasn't because I thought, as Scriabin did, that it may have been a choice based on affirmative action and not necessarily based on the best pick. However I really like everything I've heard about her.
My only concern now is that many evil and nasty people are saying evil and nasty things about her son. :(
Unfortunetly, we will always have evil and nasty people with us.
I already heard of some nonsense where some idiot group, I think moveon.org or democraticunderground, not sure, will look into it, are saying that she actually FAKED this last pregnanacy, it was actually her daughter's baby and she was covering it up for her and one of their silver bullets of proof, her daughter was out of school for ONE WEEK sick during the school year.
Another lowlife said that she should have just eliminated the TISSUE and moved on with her life.
It is people like these that make me believe there is a hell, because if there is, these are it's denziens.
I also like everything I do know about her so far also. As I have said though, my main concern right now is what I do not know about her, her stance on islam and illegal immigration. Looking for info but still can't find any.
These two most important issues are disappearing from view, Tom Tancredo where are you?
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I already heard of some nonsense where some idiot group, I think moveon.org
kos said it i won'nt repeat it because it's insane and insulting
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Sarah Palin is the ideal candidate for VP. McCain has done something really sane after betraying conservatives for a long time.
(http://beldar.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/30/sarah_palin_legs.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/TheAnchoress/PalinPalinPalin-1.jpg)
Mitt Romney is a mormon which is considered a cult by mainstream Christians.
(http://wizbangblog.com/images/2008/05/alaska_gov_sarah_palin_to_meet_with_mccain_vp_search_team/sarah-palin-thumb.jpg)
(http://www.beldar.org/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/08/palin_dancing.jpg)
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Any thinking person is the antithesis of Hillary.
This Alaska broad was selected only because she is a woman.
That's called Affirmative Action.
Stop making up lies.
I wasn't lying.
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Any thinking person is the antithesis of Hillary.
This Alaska broad was selected only because she is a woman.
That's called Affirmative Action.
Palin is a maverick who is against government waste and is against corruption.
That has nothing to do with what I said.
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Th picking of the Romney the phony republican mormon woud be the last straw breaking the back of Mcpain campaign.
What's wrong with Mormons?
Have you ever been to Utah? I can assure you that it is the cleanest, best run state in America.
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Good Stuff
Chabad Rabbi in Alaska praises Palin for her support of Israel.
http://www.vosizneias.com/19873/2008/08/31/alaska-chabad-rabbi-sarah-palin-a-great-friend-the-jewish-community/
(Also a comment about Alaska Airlines saving 40,000
Yemenite Jews in 1948-49 in the article)
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What's wrong with Mormons?
Have you ever been to Utah? I can assure you that it is the cleanest, best run state in America.
Nothing wrong with them but our country is filled with idiots and most of them are freaked out by mormons and would be very uncomfortable with a boring one like Romney as VP.
And Scriabin you are correct that Palin was selected because she is a woman. But guess what? McCAIN WANTS TO WIN AND THIS IS HOW YOU WIN! Not only is she a woman but she has conservatives stances that have ALREADY energized the base of the party and ramped up contributions to the campaign and gives the campaign a lot more midwestern volunteers. Romney could not bring this energy (he could have brought money though). If Romney was the selection MANY hard working midwestern women would have been turned off by his wealth and religion. They can not relate to a guy like that. Palin is a person that women and men all over the midwest can relate to. This is about winning MI, PA, and OH!
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Have you ever been to Utah? I can assure you that it is the cleanest, best run state in America.
I have been to Utah and it is clean and beautiful. Guess what though there are some people who think Alaska is the most clean and beautiful state! Guess who is Governor of Alaska? :) :D ;D :laugh:
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Scriabin, you're not voting for Mccain just because of her? So what if she were chosen because of Affirmative Action? VPs don't have much influence on national affairs so this shouldn't matter.
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Well the Liberals have stooped to an all time low. I guess they were tired about hearing about Obama being a Muslim. The rumor they started floating on the Internet is that Sarah Palin is not the Mother of her 5th child and that the child is really her grandchild and that her daughter Bristol Palin was the one who was pregnant. Google "Bristol Palin" and you can read this trash. I only bring this up to make people aware of what they have to battle out there >:(
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What's wrong with Mormons?
Have you ever been to Utah? I can assure you that it is the cleanest, best run state in America.
I have nothing against Mormons personally (though I do agree with Christian Zionist that Mormonism is a cult of Christianity), and nothing against Utah either, but Utah, and Mormons, tend to be rather friendly to illegal aliens, out of wanting to convert them. Utah has bent over in many ways for the illegals, such as in providing in-state tuition just like California does.
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May Rubin-k die a painful death with anal cancer spreading into his genitals. Yimach shmo to this porn posting animal.
DownwithIslam, don't humor this Nazi by calling him by his latest fake screenname. You and I and everybody know it is Jesus Rivera, Jr. ::)
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Scriabin, your sentiments here have become rather comical. This has become a source of amusement to many forum members. We all know you don't like women. If you really want to support Obama just because there is *gulp* a woman on the ticket with McCain, be my guest, but you will be all by yourself. ::)
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Scriabin, you don't like women???
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Well the Liberals have stooped to an all time low. I guess they were tired about hearing about Obama being a Muslim. The rumor they started floating on the Internet is that Sarah Palin is not the Mother of her 5th child and that the child is really her grandchild and that her daughter Bristol Palin was the one who was pregnant. Google "Bristol Palin" and you can read this trash. I only bring this up to make people aware of what they have to battle out there >:(
The Liberals are likely conveniently ignoring the fact that women in their 40's have a much greater chance of having a baby with Down Syndrome than younger women do.
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The Liberals are likely conveniently ignoring the fact that women in their 40's have a much greater chance of having a baby with Down Syndrome than younger women do.
Stats can be found here:
http://www.pregnancy-info.net/chromosomal_downsyndrome.html
"At age 20, the odds of a Downs syndrome baby are 1 in 1,500. At age 35, they go up to 1 in 350. By age 43, the odds are 1 in 50."
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The Liberals are likely conveniently ignoring the fact that women in their 40's have a much greater chance of having a baby with Down Syndrome than younger women do.
This is true. It is medical fact that the primary cause of DS is ova deterioration as a result of age.
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Hey, so matter what the result is, we're gonna end up with a new demographic in the White House now.
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I don't care how she looks, I don't vote for a beauty contest, as long as she has a good record, she has my support.
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Scriabin, your sentiments here have become rather comical. This has become a source of amusement to many forum members. We all know you don't like women. If you really want to support Obama just because there is *gulp* a woman on the ticket with McCain, be my guest, but you will be all by yourself. ::)
In Scriabin's defense I don't believe he's supporting Obama. He's just withdrawing support from McCain and remaining neutral.
I don't see how someone can remain neutral when the gap is so wide between Obama and McCain, but that's what he's chosen to do. He's not going to go to the other side and support Obama. Scriabin's still with us on most issues.
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Hey, so matter what the result is, we're gonna end up with a new demographic in the White House now.
I always wanted a very conservative woman president and if McCain gets sick after he gets elected and gets in office, then Palin could very well be President. I don't wish any sickness on McCain but I do hope that God won't allow McCain to push through that McCain-Kennedy bill.
The good news is we have much less to worry about with McCain than we do with Obama. Obama will open the borders completely and send more money to Africa and Arabs than this country ever has in the past. :(
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Scriabin, your sentiments here have become rather comical. This has become a source of amusement to many forum members. We all know you don't like women. If you really want to support Obama just because there is *gulp* a woman on the ticket with McCain, be my guest, but you will be all by yourself. ::)
In Scriabin's defense I don't believe he's supporting Obama. He's just withdrawing support from McCain and remaining neutral.
I don't see how someone can remain neutral when the gap is so wide between Obama and McCain, but that's what he's chosen to do. He's not going to go to the other side and support Obama. Scriabin's still with us on most issues.
I understand the sentiment yet it is also true that everyone who stays home ends up voting for whoever wins, because your vote would have been used to help defeat the winner. It is still not doing the right thing, even though it is not the best.
Do you really want Obama in the WH? Are you so anti-woman that you will allow it to happen? That is the core matter to me.
muman613
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I agree with Muman.
The liberals all believe it's their inablienable right and obligation to vote (regardless of whether they're felons or illegal aliens). So by sitting out this election, you're basically giving them an extra vote.
And whatever you think of Palin, surely you dislike Obama more?
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I agree with Muman.
The liberals all believe it's their inablienable right and obligation to vote (regardless of whether they're felons or illegal aliens). So by sitting out this election, you're basically giving them an extra vote.
Great point there Lisa. They are stupid enough to make the ballots in both Spanish and English here, to HELP the darn illegals vote! All they need is to forge the papers enough to get a driver's license and then they're in the voting books that list names of voters.
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I think she is awesome she already struck fear in the nerves of the left. We do need her.
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Scriabin, your sentiments here have become rather comical. This has become a source of amusement to many forum members. We all know you don't like women. If you really want to support Obama just because there is *gulp* a woman on the ticket with McCain, be my guest, but you will be all by yourself. ::)
In Scriabin's defense I don't believe he's supporting Obama. He's just withdrawing support from McCain and remaining neutral.
I don't see how someone can remain neutral when the gap is so wide between Obama and McCain, but that's what he's chosen to do. He's not going to go to the other side and support Obama. Scriabin's still with us on most issues.
Thank you, Rubystars. You see what some others indeed cannot.
If someone other than CF had said that, it might bother me.
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(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k447/baptistjihad/Palin.jpg)
Shamgar O0
Shalom from Dox
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Scriabin, your sentiments here have become rather comical. This has become a source of amusement to many forum members. We all know you don't like women. If you really want to support Obama just because there is *gulp* a woman on the ticket with McCain, be my guest, but you will be all by yourself. ::)
In Scriabin's defense I don't believe he's supporting Obama. He's just withdrawing support from McCain and remaining neutral.
I don't see how someone can remain neutral when the gap is so wide between Obama and McCain, but that's what he's chosen to do. He's not going to go to the other side and support Obama. Scriabin's still with us on most issues.
Thank you, Rubystars. You see what some others indeed cannot.
If someone other than CF had said that, it might bother me.
You're welcome. I know you're a good guy Scriabin :)
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I heard his closest advisors were not pushing her ...
I think if they had their way it woulda been safe TPaw
Grahamnesty was pushing Pruneface - Mccain had enuff sense to not listen to him.
This was probably Mccain's choice and yes ...
I agree with CF and Rubystars and DOX etc ..the fact that she's a woman
was the major factor.
But I think Palen also pushed all the right buttons for Mccain.
Conservative, Bright, Energy issues, Women vote, Historic Achievement, Change. Reform, blah blah blah....
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Thank you, Rubystars. You see what some others indeed cannot.
If someone other than CF had said that, it might bother me.
I said what I did and meant it. You are supporting Obama if you don't vote or vote for a third-party candidate. McCain needs all the support he can get. If you don't like seeing that in type, maybe it's time for you to rethink this irrational sexism. So one of the factors McCain used in picking her was that she is a woman--you know that, I know that, and everybody knows that. Big whoop. He made a damn good choice and the fact that you are playing right into your stereotypical self is a source of laughs for many of us. ::) ;D
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Sarah Palin is the ideal candidate for VP. McCain has done something really sane after betraying conservatives for a long time.
(http://beldar.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/30/sarah_palin_legs.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/TheAnchoress/PalinPalinPalin-1.jpg)
Mitt Romney is a mormon which is considered a cult by mainstream Christians.
(http://wizbangblog.com/images/2008/05/alaska_gov_sarah_palin_to_meet_with_mccain_vp_search_team/sarah-palin-thumb.jpg)
(http://www.beldar.org/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/08/palin_dancing.jpg)
Great pics! You must respect a woman who looks like that and can shoot a gun! ;)
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Thank you, Rubystars. You see what some others indeed cannot.
If someone other than CF had said that, it might bother me.
I said what I did and meant it. You are supporting Obama if you don't vote or vote for a third-party candidate. McCain needs all the support he can get. If you don't like seeing that in type, maybe it's time for you to rethink this irrational sexism. So one of the factors McCain used in picking her was that she is a woman--you know that, I know that, and everybody knows that. Big whoop. He made a damn good choice and the fact that you are playing right into your stereotypical self is a source of laughs for many of us. ::) ;D
Once again, if someone other than you were saying these things, it might bother me.
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she's soooo pretty!
It's not the women's vote..
It's the men's vote that she got too!!! Probably more.
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she's soooo pretty!
It's not the women's vote..
It's the men's vote that she got too!!! Probably more.
She was a former local beauty queen. I think you're right about the men's vote. She's got mine and look at Joe Biden, her numbers with elderly patients who require viagra must be throiugh the roof so to speak! ;)
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she's soooo pretty!
It's not the women's vote..
It's the men's vote that she got too!!! Probably more.
Also, may I add, Dr. Dan, she'll have the women's vote. I know 3 right off the bat, Hillary, Ellen DeGeneres, and Rosie O'Donnell just on looks alone. :::D I mean come on look at Ms. Palin! O0