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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: White Israelite on September 03, 2008, 09:22:03 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZyHIclQi2s
Ah I been replaying this about 50 times, I love watching the nazi tap out.
LA Giant is the Neo Nazi by the way. You'll notice his celtic cross on arm which is a common white pride symbol, he also has SS tattoo on his elbow and a rune tattoo.
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Nice. This giant is horrible in my opinion. Hell, the guy has boobs... :::D Good for this fellow...kicked his but. Nazi turd.
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Nice. This giant is horrible in my opinion. Hell, the guy has boobs... :::D Good for this fellow...kicked his but. Nazi turd.
I thought I was the only one who noticed that, he's got a nice pair of [censored] tits as he appears to be a bit obese.
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Im sorry but this looks gay to me...
They were hugging and kissing after the fight like two lovebirds...
muman613
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Im sorry but this looks gay to me...
They were hugging and kissing after the fight like two lovebirds...
muman613
They do that as a show of respect
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Im sorry but this looks gay to me...
They were hugging and kissing after the fight like two lovebirds...
muman613
It's standard tradition in MMA to hug after a fight as a show of respect. That doesn't mean they necessarily like each other though.
I still replayed where that nazi tapped out like a [censored] though. He maybe tall and have his mean little tattoos but he still lost the fight, looks like this was in 2005 and his record was poor too
1-1-0
Hopefully he returns to get his ass kicked again.
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Ok,
When I was in middle school I was on the wrestling team. I am glad I got out of it because in reality it is not something a person with modesty should do. Having to strip down to your shorts is something I dont like doing, especially in front of crowds. I am sure there are homos who watch this stuff and get all kinds of thrills.
muman613
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Ok,
When I was in middle school I was on the wrestling team. I am glad I got out of it because in reality it is not something a person with modesty should do. Having to strip down to your shorts is something I dont like doing, especially in front of crowds. I am sure there are homos who watch this stuff and get all kinds of thrills.
muman613
(http://blogs.southflorida.com/citylink_dansweeney/homer-drool.gif)
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Ok,
When I was in middle school I was on the wrestling team. I am glad I got out of it because in reality it is not something a person with modesty should do. Having to strip down to your shorts is something I dont like doing, especially in front of crowds. I am sure there are homos who watch this stuff and get all kinds of thrills.
muman613
why did you try out for the team then
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Ok,
When I was in middle school I was on the wrestling team. I am glad I got out of it because in reality it is not something a person with modesty should do. Having to strip down to your shorts is something I dont like doing, especially in front of crowds. I am sure there are homos who watch this stuff and get all kinds of thrills.
muman613
why did you try out for the team then
Well, I went to a private Boys Middle School and it had a very advanced sports program. While attending this school i was also on the LaCross team, the Hockey Team, and the Wrestling team. I had a lot of exposure to sports... I did OK in my wrestling career, but I was at the heavy class. I think I weighed 160 when I was 15.
muman613
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Ok,
When I was in middle school I was on the wrestling team. I am glad I got out of it because in reality it is not something a person with modesty should do. Having to strip down to your shorts is something I dont like doing, especially in front of crowds. I am sure there are homos who watch this stuff and get all kinds of thrills.
muman613
why did you try out for the team then
Well, I went to a private Boys Middle School and it had a very advanced sports program. While attending this school i was also on the LaCross team, the Hockey Team, and the Wrestling team. I had a lot of exposure to sports... I did OK in my wrestling career, but I was at the heavy class. I think I weighed 160 when I was 15.
muman613
You were not heavy for 15
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LOL Yes.... A slob like Hermann Goring and probably a homo like in good Nazi fashion...
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Ok,
When I was in middle school I was on the wrestling team. I am glad I got out of it because in reality it is not something a person with modesty should do. Having to strip down to your shorts is something I dont like doing, especially in front of crowds. I am sure there are homos who watch this stuff and get all kinds of thrills.
muman613
I'm sure there are just like pedophiles who go to the public pool, but the sport should not be thought of in that matter.
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(http://www.tenagakembar.nl/Mijn%20afbeeldingen/PRIDE_FC_logo.jpg)
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(http://www.tenagakembar.nl/Mijn%20afbeeldingen/PRIDE_FC_logo.jpg)
I've got plenty of Pride shows on my computer if you want to trade
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(http://www.tenagakembar.nl/Mijn%20afbeeldingen/PRIDE_FC_logo.jpg)
I've got plenty of Pride shows on my computer if you want to trade
I have them recorded on VHS
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They should have kept Pride it was more exciting to watch then the UFC
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They should have kept Pride it was more exciting to watch then the UFC
What do you have?
I have
Pride.FC.21 through 30
2003.11.09 - Pride.FC.Final.Conflict.2003.DVDRip.XviD-LionsDen
2003.12.31 - Pride.FC.Shockwave.2003.DVDRip.XviD-DoN
2004.06.20 - Pride.FC.HW.GP.Critical.Countdown.2004.DVDRiP.XviD-CLASSiCW4F
2005.12.31 - Pride.FC.Shockwave.2005.DVDRip.XviD-Hype
2006.05.05 - Pride.FC.Total.Elimination.Absolute.PPV.DSRip.XviD-aAF
2007.02.27 - Pride.FC.33.The.Second.Coming.DVDRip.XviD-KYR
Btw, Pride is back as Dream, it's almost identical except the name, even the crazy announcer girl.
Check it out, if you have HDNET you can watch it, Dream 6 airs at the end of the month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpXJpLwXK_c
Heres the card for Dream 6 btw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_6
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They should have kept Pride it was more exciting to watch then the UFC
What do you have?
I have
Pride.FC.21 through 30
2003.11.09 - Pride.FC.Final.Conflict.2003.DVDRip.XviD-LionsDen
2003.12.31 - Pride.FC.Shockwave.2003.DVDRip.XviD-DoN
2004.06.20 - Pride.FC.HW.GP.Critical.Countdown.2004.DVDRiP.XviD-CLASSiCW4F
2005.12.31 - Pride.FC.Shockwave.2005.DVDRip.XviD-Hype
2006.05.05 - Pride.FC.Total.Elimination.Absolute.PPV.DSRip.XviD-aAF
2007.02.27 - Pride.FC.33.The.Second.Coming.DVDRip.XviD-KYR
Btw, Pride is back as Dream, it's almost identical except the name, even the crazy announcer girl.
Check it out, if you have HDNET you can watch it, Dream 6 airs at the end of the month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpXJpLwXK_c
Heres the card for Dream 6 btw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_6
BUSHIDO SURVIVAL 06
SHOCKWAVE '06
PRIDE.33:"The Second Coming"
PRIDE.34 "KAMIKAZE"
THE REAL DEAL
FINAL CONFLICT ABSOLUTE
TOTAL ELIMINATION ABSOLUTE '06
BUSHIDO 10
I have a couple more
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They should have kept Pride it was more exciting to watch then the UFC
What do you have?
I have
Pride.FC.21 through 30
2003.11.09 - Pride.FC.Final.Conflict.2003.DVDRip.XviD-LionsDen
2003.12.31 - Pride.FC.Shockwave.2003.DVDRip.XviD-DoN
2004.06.20 - Pride.FC.HW.GP.Critical.Countdown.2004.DVDRiP.XviD-CLASSiCW4F
2005.12.31 - Pride.FC.Shockwave.2005.DVDRip.XviD-Hype
2006.05.05 - Pride.FC.Total.Elimination.Absolute.PPV.DSRip.XviD-aAF
2007.02.27 - Pride.FC.33.The.Second.Coming.DVDRip.XviD-KYR
Btw, Pride is back as Dream, it's almost identical except the name, even the crazy announcer girl.
Check it out, if you have HDNET you can watch it, Dream 6 airs at the end of the month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpXJpLwXK_c
Heres the card for Dream 6 btw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_6
BUSHIDO SURVIVAL 06
SHOCKWAVE '06
PRIDE.33:"The Second Coming"
PRIDE.34 "KAMIKAZE"
THE REAL DEAL
FINAL CONFLICT ABSOLUTE
TOTAL ELIMINATION ABSOLUTE '06
BUSHIDO 10
I have a couple more
Did Pride air the intros/music live? Some of my videos don't have the intros or music and some do, there are also some dvd's that only contain some generic music but I think that's copyright reason :(, not necessary to enjoy the fights but Pride has some really cool intros.
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They should have kept Pride it was more exciting to watch then the UFC
What do you have?
I have
Pride.FC.21 through 30
2003.11.09 - Pride.FC.Final.Conflict.2003.DVDRip.XviD-LionsDen
2003.12.31 - Pride.FC.Shockwave.2003.DVDRip.XviD-DoN
2004.06.20 - Pride.FC.HW.GP.Critical.Countdown.2004.DVDRiP.XviD-CLASSiCW4F
2005.12.31 - Pride.FC.Shockwave.2005.DVDRip.XviD-Hype
2006.05.05 - Pride.FC.Total.Elimination.Absolute.PPV.DSRip.XviD-aAF
2007.02.27 - Pride.FC.33.The.Second.Coming.DVDRip.XviD-KYR
Btw, Pride is back as Dream, it's almost identical except the name, even the crazy announcer girl.
Check it out, if you have HDNET you can watch it, Dream 6 airs at the end of the month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpXJpLwXK_c
Heres the card for Dream 6 btw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_6
BUSHIDO SURVIVAL 06
SHOCKWAVE '06
PRIDE.33:"The Second Coming"
PRIDE.34 "KAMIKAZE"
THE REAL DEAL
FINAL CONFLICT ABSOLUTE
TOTAL ELIMINATION ABSOLUTE '06
BUSHIDO 10
I have a couple more
Did Pride air the intros/music live? Some of my videos don't have the intros or music and some do, there are also some dvd's that only contain some generic music but I think that's copyright reason :(, not necessary to enjoy the fights but Pride has some really cool intros.
The ones I have yes
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There was another neo nazi who was apparently banned from MMA over his tattoos, I can't recall his name but I'll find it.
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There was another neo nazi who was apparently banned from MMA over his tattoos, I can't recall his name but I'll find it.
Really?
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Yea he has a sig rune on his arm
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Yea he has a sig rune on his arm
Not the guy in this vid some other guy
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The Nazi is imo too fat and floppy. The Russian is better trained and quick. So the fight ends like it has to end. O0 :::D
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Yea he has a sig rune on his arm
It is the Odal rune from the futhark. ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Anglosaxonrunes.svg/531px-Anglosaxonrunes.svg.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_alphabet
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The Nazi is imo too fat and floppy. The Russian is better trained and quick. So the fight ends like it has to end. O0 :::D
:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D I like ancient languages O0
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Ok I found it, Melvin Costa is one of the other Neo Nazis involved in MMA, interview below.
(http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/melvincosta.jpg)
(http://www.splcenter.org/images/dynamic/intel/report/44/IR129_ultimatefight_ibc.jpg)
Sam Caplan: In regard to the swastika that is tattooed to your chest, is that an accurate representation of your views?
Melvin Costa: Yeah.
Sam Caplan: So you're a neo-nazi supporter?
Melvin Costa: I'm a white nationalist. I wouldn't call myself a neo-nazi.
Sam Caplan: Can you go into detail about what some of your vews as a white nationalist are?
Melvin Costa: First and foremost I want the people out there not to mix up love for my own with hate for others. I don't hate any other race. I love my own. That's what I'm about pretty much; the advancement of my people, my culture, (and) my heritage.
Sam Caplan: There have been a few reports that you've had supporters from your shows come out who are also white nationalists. To your knowledge, are those reports accurate?
Melvin Costa: I couldn't say I've seen that, honestly, I really don't.
Sam Caplan: There have also been claims that some of your tattoos are jail tattoos. Is that correct?
Melvin Costa: Yep.
Sam Caplan: So you have served time?
Melvin Costa: Uh-huh.
Sam Caplan: How much time have you served?
Melvin Costa: I've pretty much been locked up since I was 15 up until 18 months ago.
Sam Caplan: What were you sentenced for?
Melvin Costa: A variety of things. Mostly fighting; bodily injuries, assaults, a couple of bulgaries. Mostly fighting though and that's why I'm in the cage now (I'm) trying to direct my energy in a positive path.
Sam Caplan: So your assertion by wearing a swastika is that you're not neccessarily against other races, you're just for the white race?
Melvin Costa: Yes, exactly. A swastika, as far as I hold it true to my own, it stands for the purity of my people's blood. It doesn't stand for hating jews or any other ethnic race. If you look into the meaning of a swastika from a nationalist's point of a view, it's for the purity of our own race. I do believe in the purity, security, and the survival of the white race. I don't believe in hate crimes or going about the cultural advancement of your people in that avenue, but I do believe in supporting your local white boy and being proud of your people and your past. It's a part of who you are. You deny that and you deny yourself.
Sam Caplan: So if a minority attended a show you were fighting on and saw the swastika on your chest and was offended by it, what would you tell them if you were going to talk to them?
Melvin Costa: It depends on what race they are. If you're a black man saying that I would say "Are you ashamed of Malcom X?" Because Malcolm X pretty much held the same views that I do, except for his own people. To the Mexicans, I would say there's a lot of Latinos out there that hold the same views that I do: the cultural advancement of their people. I'm not trying to downplay them or do anything to alter their way of living; I'm trying to advance my people's way of living. That's what I hold true.
Sam Caplan: If a jew came up to you and expressed concern about the swastika, what would you tell them?
Melvin Costa: I'd tell them to look at their own people. Be proud of who they are. Their people are doing a lot to advance their own people. What avenues do the whites have now a day to be proud of who they are? None. There ain't no people out there going "White power. White pride." But you have all sorts of other races that have their own month. Maybe I'll stop wearing a swastika on my chest when we have a white heritage month. Until then I'm proud to be white and that's pretty much all that needs to be said.
Sam Caplan: I know you are entitled to your views of believing in the advancement of the white race, but don't you feel that maybe there's another symbol you could have chosen to represent your views other than a swastika?
Melvin Costa: You've got to understand the way that I grew up. My past is through jail. What other tattoo could I have gotten to represent as strongly as it does how I feel: white power, pretty much in one symbol? When I come down that ramp and people see me when I go to fight they know I'm white power. What else could I have put that people would have said "Oh, he's white power?" It's pretty much putting out there who I am and what I'm about.
Sam Caplan: Has anyone ever approached you in the fight game about either getting the swastika covered up or removed?
Melvin Costa: No.
Sam Caplan: If someone did, what would your response be?
Melvin Costa: You know, it's America (laughs). Like I said, the reason why I don't hold myself to be a neo-nazi is because I do believe in a lot a things our forefathers believed in. I believe in freedom of speech (and) I believe in freedom of press. I believe in all of that. I don't believe in communism or none of that repressing our views and our way of living.
Sam Caplan: Can you talk more about the difference between a white nationalist and neo-nazi?
Melvin Costa: A neo-nazi holds Hitler's beliefs to be true down to a T. I don't. I believe in Hitler's point of view as far as racial consonance but I don't believe a lot of things as far as controlling an economy. He wanted to control every single aspect of people's lives. He wanted to control the press. He wanted to control what people wore. I don't believe in none of that. I think that we should be allowed to live freely.
I think that today in our day and age I think the white race isn't able to have as many opportunities as other races have. Therefore I believe that we should start sticking up for ourselves to get the things that we need in society. I'll give one example. You've heard of (Barrack) Obama running for president?
Sam Caplan: Yes.
Melvin Costa: Well, why is it that he's gone on record as saying that "I'm for consonance in all my people, putting in civic duties for my people, and advancing my people" but he's not labled a racist? Why am I when I say the same thing labeled a racist?
Sam Caplan: Do you want me to answer that?
Melvin Costa: Yeah, go ahead.
Sam Caplan: I think some people feel that African-Americans are a minority and that the playing field is not equal for minority Americans in this country and that to help level the playing field there needs to be empowerment and that the white race is the majority and that they don't need some of the same advantages that African-Americans might be getting.
Melvin Costa: But as a president should those be the first on his list?
Sam Caplan: I'm just trying to give a different perspective here; it's not neccessarily one that I do or do not believe. But there's the belief that there isn't a level playing field when it comes to race in the United States and that minorities do need certain advantages in order to even the playing field with the majority.
Melvin Costa: I see what you're saying. I read a lot of articles in the press and I'm pretty mindful of what's going on in the world. But speaking solely for myself, I've never seen that. I grew up where I was a minority. I grew up getting picked on because I was white, okay? So I can't say what they've gone through but I know what I've gone through and the way it's portrayed to me through the media is we're the majority? I've never seen that. I've been beat up because I was white (and) I've been picked on because I was white. So for me solely when I tattoo a swastika on my chest it's saying that I'm against everything I've been through in life and that I'm trying to empower my people and I want the white kids to know that they can be proud to be white.
Sam Caplan: For the record, what area did you grow up in?
Melvin Costa: San Bernardino (Calif.).
Sam Caplan: There's also been speculation about another one of your tattoos. In the picture that's circulating, you're also shown with a spider web tatoo on one of your elbows. I'm not sure if this is true, so I wanted to ask you, but that's a prison tattoo that represents someone who has killed an African-American?
Melvin Costa: I don't know nothing about that. I got my tattoo when I got out. I got this tattooed last year. If that's true then it wasn't a part of my knowledge when I got it.
Sam Caplan: Is there anything else that you wanted to say for the record?
Melvin Costa: As I said earlier, I'm not out there trying to hate other races. I'm for the advancement of my people; racial consonance amongst my people. Be proud to be white. That's all that it is.
Source: http://samcaplan.proelite.com/64160
The only other fighter I know of with Swastika tattoos is Aleksander Emelianenko who is Fedor Emelianenkos brother (one of the best fighters in the world), however the tattoos that Aleksander has are strange, the swastika is located on the knee with a star which indicates it's a prison tattoo, the star implies "shall not bow to authority" and basically a big "f*** you" to Russian prison guards, he claims he's not a neo nazi or a national socialist or even a nationalist, but i'm not so sure how true his story is. Fedors manager however Vadim Finkelstein is Jewish, his manager and Fedor both claim that Red Devils are not racists or nazis and that they train with people of different ethnic background.
Either way, Nazis in MMA is a problem. Fortunately, it doesn't appear any are in mainstream organizations or have a good record.
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Very interesting Pheasant. I've read a bit on this subject. For anyone who is interested in the "Mysteries" or "Knowledge" here is a famous work by 33rd Degree Free Mason and Occultist Manley P. Hall called "The Secret Teachings of All Ages".
EBook: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2962143/manly-ph-all-the-secret-teachings-of-all-ages
Oh, about the fighter up there with the Swastika, sadly much of what he says is, in fact true. The sad part is that he identifies the Nazi logo with a so-called "White Nationalist" which further displays his ignorance to the fact that Jews are White... One can largely thank Adolf Hitler and also the enlightened Jewish community themselves for not, like the "Palestinians", confronting this shameful manipulation..
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Costa does'nt sound like a nordic name to me ;D
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(http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/melvincosta.jpg)
Is that a doctored photo?
The tattoo around his navel says, "I have a small p-nis."
Take a look for yourself.
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Ok I found it, Melvin Costa is one of the other Neo Nazis involved in MMA, interview below.
(http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/melvincosta.jpg)
(http://www.splcenter.org/images/dynamic/intel/report/44/IR129_ultimatefight_ibc.jpg)
Sam Caplan: In regard to the swastika that is tattooed to your chest, is that an accurate representation of your views?
Melvin Costa: Yeah.
Sam Caplan: So you're a neo-nazi supporter?
Melvin Costa: I'm a white nationalist. I wouldn't call myself a neo-nazi.
Sam Caplan: Can you go into detail about what some of your vews as a white nationalist are?
Melvin Costa: First and foremost I want the people out there not to mix up love for my own with hate for others. I don't hate any other race. I love my own. That's what I'm about pretty much; the advancement of my people, my culture, (and) my heritage.
Sam Caplan: There have been a few reports that you've had supporters from your shows come out who are also white nationalists. To your knowledge, are those reports accurate?
Melvin Costa: I couldn't say I've seen that, honestly, I really don't.
Sam Caplan: There have also been claims that some of your tattoos are jail tattoos. Is that correct?
Melvin Costa: Yep.
Sam Caplan: So you have served time?
Melvin Costa: Uh-huh.
Sam Caplan: How much time have you served?
Melvin Costa: I've pretty much been locked up since I was 15 up until 18 months ago.
Sam Caplan: What were you sentenced for?
Melvin Costa: A variety of things. Mostly fighting; bodily injuries, assaults, a couple of bulgaries. Mostly fighting though and that's why I'm in the cage now (I'm) trying to direct my energy in a positive path.
Sam Caplan: So your assertion by wearing a swastika is that you're not neccessarily against other races, you're just for the white race?
Melvin Costa: Yes, exactly. A swastika, as far as I hold it true to my own, it stands for the purity of my people's blood. It doesn't stand for hating jews or any other ethnic race. If you look into the meaning of a swastika from a nationalist's point of a view, it's for the purity of our own race. I do believe in the purity, security, and the survival of the white race. I don't believe in hate crimes or going about the cultural advancement of your people in that avenue, but I do believe in supporting your local white boy and being proud of your people and your past. It's a part of who you are. You deny that and you deny yourself.
Sam Caplan: So if a minority attended a show you were fighting on and saw the swastika on your chest and was offended by it, what would you tell them if you were going to talk to them?
Melvin Costa: It depends on what race they are. If you're a black man saying that I would say "Are you ashamed of Malcom X?" Because Malcolm X pretty much held the same views that I do, except for his own people. To the Mexicans, I would say there's a lot of Latinos out there that hold the same views that I do: the cultural advancement of their people. I'm not trying to downplay them or do anything to alter their way of living; I'm trying to advance my people's way of living. That's what I hold true.
Sam Caplan: If a jew came up to you and expressed concern about the swastika, what would you tell them?
Melvin Costa: I'd tell them to look at their own people. Be proud of who they are. Their people are doing a lot to advance their own people. What avenues do the whites have now a day to be proud of who they are? None. There ain't no people out there going "White power. White pride." But you have all sorts of other races that have their own month. Maybe I'll stop wearing a swastika on my chest when we have a white heritage month. Until then I'm proud to be white and that's pretty much all that needs to be said.
Sam Caplan: I know you are entitled to your views of believing in the advancement of the white race, but don't you feel that maybe there's another symbol you could have chosen to represent your views other than a swastika?
Melvin Costa: You've got to understand the way that I grew up. My past is through jail. What other tattoo could I have gotten to represent as strongly as it does how I feel: white power, pretty much in one symbol? When I come down that ramp and people see me when I go to fight they know I'm white power. What else could I have put that people would have said "Oh, he's white power?" It's pretty much putting out there who I am and what I'm about.
Sam Caplan: Has anyone ever approached you in the fight game about either getting the swastika covered up or removed?
Melvin Costa: No.
Sam Caplan: If someone did, what would your response be?
Melvin Costa: You know, it's America (laughs). Like I said, the reason why I don't hold myself to be a neo-nazi is because I do believe in a lot a things our forefathers believed in. I believe in freedom of speech (and) I believe in freedom of press. I believe in all of that. I don't believe in communism or none of that repressing our views and our way of living.
Sam Caplan: Can you talk more about the difference between a white nationalist and neo-nazi?
Melvin Costa: A neo-nazi holds Hitler's beliefs to be true down to a T. I don't. I believe in Hitler's point of view as far as racial consonance but I don't believe a lot of things as far as controlling an economy. He wanted to control every single aspect of people's lives. He wanted to control the press. He wanted to control what people wore. I don't believe in none of that. I think that we should be allowed to live freely.
I think that today in our day and age I think the white race isn't able to have as many opportunities as other races have. Therefore I believe that we should start sticking up for ourselves to get the things that we need in society. I'll give one example. You've heard of (Barrack) Obama running for president?
Sam Caplan: Yes.
Melvin Costa: Well, why is it that he's gone on record as saying that "I'm for consonance in all my people, putting in civic duties for my people, and advancing my people" but he's not labled a racist? Why am I when I say the same thing labeled a racist?
Sam Caplan: Do you want me to answer that?
Melvin Costa: Yeah, go ahead.
Sam Caplan: I think some people feel that African-Americans are a minority and that the playing field is not equal for minority Americans in this country and that to help level the playing field there needs to be empowerment and that the white race is the majority and that they don't need some of the same advantages that African-Americans might be getting.
Melvin Costa: But as a president should those be the first on his list?
Sam Caplan: I'm just trying to give a different perspective here; it's not neccessarily one that I do or do not believe. But there's the belief that there isn't a level playing field when it comes to race in the United States and that minorities do need certain advantages in order to even the playing field with the majority.
Melvin Costa: I see what you're saying. I read a lot of articles in the press and I'm pretty mindful of what's going on in the world. But speaking solely for myself, I've never seen that. I grew up where I was a minority. I grew up getting picked on because I was white, okay? So I can't say what they've gone through but I know what I've gone through and the way it's portrayed to me through the media is we're the majority? I've never seen that. I've been beat up because I was white (and) I've been picked on because I was white. So for me solely when I tattoo a swastika on my chest it's saying that I'm against everything I've been through in life and that I'm trying to empower my people and I want the white kids to know that they can be proud to be white.
Sam Caplan: For the record, what area did you grow up in?
Melvin Costa: San Bernardino (Calif.).
Sam Caplan: There's also been speculation about another one of your tattoos. In the picture that's circulating, you're also shown with a spider web tatoo on one of your elbows. I'm not sure if this is true, so I wanted to ask you, but that's a prison tattoo that represents someone who has killed an African-American?
Melvin Costa: I don't know nothing about that. I got my tattoo when I got out. I got this tattooed last year. If that's true then it wasn't a part of my knowledge when I got it.
Sam Caplan: Is there anything else that you wanted to say for the record?
Melvin Costa: As I said earlier, I'm not out there trying to hate other races. I'm for the advancement of my people; racial consonance amongst my people. Be proud to be white. That's all that it is.
Source: http://samcaplan.proelite.com/64160
The only other fighter I know of with Swastika tattoos is Aleksander Emelianenko who is Fedor Emelianenkos brother (one of the best fighters in the world), however the tattoos that Aleksander has are strange, the swastika is located on the knee with a star which indicates it's a prison tattoo, the star implies "shall not bow to authority" and basically a big "f*** you" to Russian prison guards, he claims he's not a neo nazi or a national socialist or even a nationalist, but i'm not so sure how true his story is. Fedors manager however Vadim Finkelstein is Jewish, his manager and Fedor both claim that Red Devils are not racists or nazis and that they train with people of different ethnic background.
Either way, Nazis in MMA is a problem. Fortunately, it doesn't appear any are in mainstream organizations or have a good record.
Never heard of him
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Ok I found it, Melvin Costa is one of the other Neo Nazis involved in MMA, interview below.
(http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/melvincosta.jpg)
Is that a doctored photo?
The tattoo around his navel says, "I have a small p-nis."
Take a look for yourself.
No that is his tattoo
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Very interesting Pheasant. I've read a bit on this subject. For anyone who is interested in the "Mysteries" or "Knowledge" here is a famous work by 33rd Degree Free Mason and Occultist Manley P. Hall called "The Secret Teachings of All Ages".
EBook: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2962143/manly-ph-all-the-secret-teachings-of-all-ages
Boy the masons are interested in everything Kabbala runic writing whats up with these masons :-\
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Ok I found it, Melvin Costa is one of the other Neo Nazis involved in MMA, interview below.
(http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/melvincosta.jpg)
Is that a doctored photo?
The tattoo around his navel says, "I have a small p-nis."
Take a look for yourself.
No that is his tattoo
Why would any man get a tattoo that says, "I have a small p-nis."
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Ok I found it, Melvin Costa is one of the other Neo Nazis involved in MMA, interview below.
(http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/melvincosta.jpg)
Is that a doctored photo?
The tattoo around his navel says, "I have a small p-nis."
Take a look for yourself.
No that is his tattoo
Why would any man get a tattoo that says, "I have a small p-nis."
Maybe he is proud to have one
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Ok I found it, Melvin Costa is one of the other Neo Nazis involved in MMA, interview below.
(http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/melvincosta.jpg)
Is that a doctored photo?
The tattoo around his navel says, "I have a small p-nis."
Take a look for yourself.
No that is his tattoo
Why would any man get a tattoo that says, "I have a small p-nis."
Maybe he is proud to have one
Maybe he's a nut :-\
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Ok I found it, Melvin Costa is one of the other Neo Nazis involved in MMA, interview below.
(http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/melvincosta.jpg)
Is that a doctored photo?
The tattoo around his navel says, "I have a small p-nis."
Take a look for yourself.
No that is his tattoo
Why would any man get a tattoo that says, "I have a small p-nis."
Maybe he is proud to have one
Maybe he's a nut :-\
Maybe he has none
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Ok I found it, Melvin Costa is one of the other Neo Nazis involved in MMA, interview below.
(http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/melvincosta.jpg)
Is that a doctored photo?
The tattoo around his navel says, "I have a small p-nis."
Take a look for yourself.
No that is his tattoo
Why would any man get a tattoo that says, "I have a small p-nis."
Maybe he is proud to have one
Maybe he's a nut :-\
He should tattoo, "I am an imbecile" on his forehead.
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Heres what Alex tattoos supposedly mean
Right arm: Cathedral with five domes: symbolizes five years of imprisonment.
Shoulders: Stars: Symbolize a "career criminal" or Vor v Zakone in Russian (English translation: thief in law).
Right shoulder: cobweb: Aleksander did not explain its meaning other than saying that contrary to what has been suggested by some, it does not have anything to do with the Mafiya. In Russian prisons, tattoos using this symbol typically denote drug addiction or robbery.
Left shoulder: Russian script.
Left forearm: Half cat’s head, half skull: “Homo homini lupus est.” Translated: Man is a wolf to his fellow-man.
Back: Grim Reaper holding a baby.
Back: "Gott Mit Uns", meaning “God is with us” in German: for Aleksander, it’s a symbol of revival. This tattoo caused a controversy, since this slogan was written on belt buckles of German soldiers in the Second and Third Reich. For many Russian prisoners the phrase means you are totally opposed to the soviet penal system.[citation needed] This phrase was very popular among prisoners during the 60's and 70's, when the Soviet regime was at its worst.[citation needed]
Knees: Stars: symbolize that the owner will never be brought to his knees. These tattoos also stirred up controversy, after a picture published on his website revealed a swastika in the middle.[5]
Pirate tattoo: stands for article 167 of Russian Criminal Code: “armed robbery”.
“Fortis fortuna adiuvat” Translated: Fortune favors the bold.
A name on his lower abs (Maybe 'Marina'). Later covered by a tribal tattoo.
A spider web on scalp.
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He has the same look like Niggemeier. Compare:
Nazi: (http://www.splcenter.org/images/dynamic/intel/report/44/IR129_ultimatefight_ibc.jpg)
Niggemeier:
(http://www.monstersandcritics.de/downloads/downloads/articles/14080/article_images/image6_1183509819.jpg)
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Only incedent? ???
Both look a little bit like pigs ...
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He has the same look like Niggemeier. Compare:
Nazi: (http://www.splcenter.org/images/dynamic/intel/report/44/IR129_ultimatefight_ibc.jpg)
Niggemeier:
(http://www.monstersandcritics.de/downloads/downloads/articles/14080/article_images/image6_1183509819.jpg)
What stupidity
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Do you disagree American Hero? Both have the nose of a piglet, short hair and ears of Dumbo. Perhaps it is genetically and both are related :o ???
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Yes Mord, you are right but I do believe their presentation of Cabala is a molestation like most everything else the non-Jew in their search for inner "illumination".
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Do you disagree American Hero? Both have the nose of a piglet, short hair and ears of Dumbo. Perhaps it is genetically and both are related :o ???
I ment they both look stupid
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Only incedent? ???
Both look a little bit like pigs ...
;D ;D mental midget pigs
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Do you disagree American Hero? Both have the nose of a piglet, short hair and ears of Dumbo. Perhaps it is genetically and both are related :o ???
I ment they both look stupid
Yes they do - in some way they looked deformed. ;D
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Heres Igor Olshansky he has 6 Stars of David tatoos and a half dozen other things he plays for san diego charges but since he was a kid he practiced marial arts i bet he could beat the fat guy easy.He's 6'6" 320 the fat petersen is 318 but Igor is in top shape
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8092/2344272472rp0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
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Heres Igor Olshansky he has 6 Stars of David tatoos and a half dozen other things he plays for san diego charges but since he was a kid he practiced marial arts i bet he could beat the fat guy easy.He's 6'6" 320 the fat petersen is 318 but Igor is in top shape
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8092/2344272472rp0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
What martial arts?
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Heres Igor Olshansky he has 6 Stars of David tatoos and a half dozen other things he plays for san diego charges but since he was a kid he practiced marial arts i bet he could beat the fat guy easy.He's 6'6" 320 the fat petersen is 318 but Igor is in top shape
here it says he practices martial arts but doesn't specify http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/igor-olshansky.htm
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8092/2344272472rp0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
What martial arts?
I don't know but he started out in san diego for over 6 million so i don't think he's ready for the mma (http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3489/olshanskywb0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
here it says he practices martial arts but doesn't specify http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/igor-olshansky.htm
Due in part to the influence of his grandfather, Igor still studies military history and martial arts.
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Heres Igor Olshansky he has 6 Stars of David tatoos and a half dozen other things he plays for san diego charges but since he was a kid he practiced marial arts i bet he could beat the fat guy easy.He's 6'6" 320 the fat petersen is 318 but Igor is in top shape
here it says he practices martial arts but doesn't specify http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/igor-olshansky.htm
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8092/2344272472rp0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
What martial arts?
I don't know but he started out in san diego for over 6 million so i don't think he's ready for the mma (http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3489/olshanskywb0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
here it says he practices martial arts but doesn't specify http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/igor-olshansky.htm
Due in part to the influence of his grandfather, Igor still studies military history and martial arts.
Maybe he practices Sambo
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Heres Igor Olshansky he has 6 Stars of David tatoos and a half dozen other things he plays for san diego charges but since he was a kid he practiced marial arts i bet he could beat the fat guy easy.He's 6'6" 320 the fat petersen is 318 but Igor is in top shape
here it says he practices martial arts but doesn't specify http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/igor-olshansky.htm
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8092/2344272472rp0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
What martial arts?
I don't know but he started out in san diego for over 6 million so i don't think he's ready for the mma (http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3489/olshanskywb0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
here it says he practices martial arts but doesn't specify http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/igor-olshansky.htm
Due in part to the influence of his grandfather, Igor still studies military history and martial arts.
Maybe he practices Sambo
Maybe is'nt that Russian he's from UKRAINE
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Heres Igor Olshansky he has 6 Stars of David tatoos and a half dozen other things he plays for san diego charges but since he was a kid he practiced marial arts i bet he could beat the fat guy easy.He's 6'6" 320 the fat petersen is 318 but Igor is in top shape
here it says he practices martial arts but doesn't specify http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/igor-olshansky.htm
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8092/2344272472rp0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
What martial arts?
I don't know but he started out in san diego for over 6 million so i don't think he's ready for the mma (http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3489/olshanskywb0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
here it says he practices martial arts but doesn't specify http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/igor-olshansky.htm
Due in part to the influence of his grandfather, Igor still studies military history and martial arts.
Maybe he practices Sambo
Maybe isn't that Russian he's from UKRAINE
Yes but he might be Polish though
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POSSIBLE, POLISH SPELL IT SKI NO?
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POSSIBLE, POLISH SPELL IT SKI NO?
Most do
His grandfather Abraham Rubashevsky fought for the Red Army in World War II
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POSSIBLE, POLISH SPELL IT SKI NO?
Most do
His grandfather Abraham Rubashevsky fought for the Red Army in World War II
Yes everyone did except Stalin and if you were captured and were a POW Stalin called them traitors and executed the soviet pows
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POSSIBLE, POLISH SPELL IT SKI NO?
Most do
His grandfather Abraham Rubashevsky fought for the Red Army in World War II
Yes everyone did except Stalin and if you were captured and were a POW Stalin called them traitors and executed the soviet pows
Not everyone
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Heres Igor Olshansky he has 6 Stars of David tatoos and a half dozen other things he plays for san diego charges but since he was a kid he practiced marial arts i bet he could beat the fat guy easy.He's 6'6" 320 the fat petersen is 318 but Igor is in top shape
here it says he practices martial arts but doesn't specify http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/igor-olshansky.htm
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8092/2344272472rp0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
What martial arts?
I don't know but he started out in san diego for over 6 million so i don't think he's ready for the mma (http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3489/olshanskywb0.jpg)
Shot at 2008-09-04
here it says he practices martial arts but doesn't specify http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/igor-olshansky.htm
Due in part to the influence of his grandfather, Igor still studies military history and martial arts.
Maybe he practices Sambo
Maybe isn't that Russian he's from UKRAINE
This is FABULOUS!
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POSSIBLE, POLISH SPELL IT SKI NO?
Most do
His grandfather Abraham Rubashevsky fought for the Red Army in World War II
Yes everyone did except Stalin and if you were captured and were a POW Stalin called them traitors and executed the soviet pows
Not everyone
Well he made sure to get a majority
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POSSIBLE, POLISH SPELL IT SKI NO?
Most do
His grandfather Abraham Rubashevsky fought for the Red Army in World War II
Yes everyone did except Stalin and if you were captured and were a POW Stalin called them traitors and executed the soviet pows
Not everyone
Well he made sure to get a majority
Yes but some fled the country to south america or other parts of europe
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I don't understand the point of bringing up a Jewish football player. What i'm wondering is if there are any major Jewish MMA fighters out there? There are some Jewish commentators and managers but that's all i'm aware of. Anyways here's a article about combating against racists in MMA.
http://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/03/09/how-to-combat-racists-in-mma/
How to Combat Racists in MMA
Posted on March 09, 2008 by Brandt DeLorenzo
It’s pretty simple; ignore the physical appearance and listen to the message. It’s no surprise that fighters like King of the Cage fighter Melvin Costa have inked themselves with white power tattoos in an attempt to gain attention from both supporters and protesters of his cliche white power argument. Costa, like most (if not all) white power individuals are looking for someone to influence, someone to infuriate. David Holthouse from the Southern Povery Law Center wrote an article titled “The Last Word” in which he gives Costa more exposure from his interview with Sam Caplan last year. FightOpinion’s Zach Arnold posted up the article on his blog earlier today.
Amongst many topics in the interview, Costa goes on to explain that the swastika tattoo on his chest does have some meaning.
“A swastika, as far as I hold it true to my own, it stands for the purity of my people’s blood … I do believe in the purity, security, and the survival of the white race.”
That’s quite the compelling argument that we’ve all heard a thousand times before. Tell us something new and intellectual, Mr. Costa. Perhaps you should explain a bit deeper into the fact that the origin of Costa is actually Portuguese and Brazilian. Brazilians are Caucasian? According to the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics, 49.9% of Brazilians consider themselves white due to some white ancestry.
But Costa doesn’t come off as the typical ignorant fool. He answers each of Caplan’s questions thoughtfully without making any attempt to demean other races or beliefs - believe it or not. If one were to read his interview without seeing Costa, they might picture a skinny pale student who is just a little lost in life. But Costa, only 26 years old, has spent almost half of his life, 11 years, in jail serving his time for an assortment of charges from burglary to assault.
But then again, do I care about his life in particular? Not really.
Do I ever want to see him fight? Probably not.
Costa is just another fighter who wants to leverage his physical appearance in order to gain attention from fans in MMA. Unless he does have some talent, this whole debacle won’t last long and we’ll be back to regular business as usual. But maybe you are one of those fans who want to see him go down against fighter just for the satisfaction. As for myself, I’d rather just not worry about someone just looking for attention when there’s so much more to look towards in the sport right now.
And another one
http://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/03/10/another-view-on-racism-in-mma/
Another View on Racism in MMA
Posted on March 10, 2008 by John Philapavage
This is a response to Brandt DeLorenzo’s article about Melvin Costa.
Why is it important to have a stance on this man. Why is it so important that we all run not only to comment, but in paying it mind we HAVE to say “what an idiot” or “he shouldn’t fight for Elite XC/ Rage in the Cage/ whatever company we’ve heard?
Sorry to be the white guy to say this (I know this makes me the target for White Sup. Defender heat), but he has the right to have his tattoo. He has the right to say what he wants as I do anytime I post something here. I don’t have to agree with him, but it’s really heavy handed to always qualify everything with “idiot” and so forth because everyone in our increasingly politically correct culture is so afraid to be labeled a racist or the center of a media fit over someone’s thoughts.
I also don’t think it’s a valid reason to deny the guy work. As long as he’s not using Elite XC or CBS sponsored media to get his feelings across, it’s his personal life.
Look, I very much dislike organized religion. I think people who follow it are rubes. That’s not popular to say, but it’s how I feel. I’m being truthful. I also can’t and never would try to stop those people from what they do. I grew up in Catholic school, and it was my right to debate it.
I understand the business counter argument: “we” - which really is MMA hardcores fans, and seems less at this point to be Elite XC management - can’t have this guy running around messing up the perception of “our” young sport. Okay, that’s valid. It’s also valid that there are racists and/or religious zealots in every aspect of life. Do you think I want to see Matt Hughes talk about his version of G-d on my TV? Why isn’t that “offensive”? The truth is it’s not, but our culture selectively labels things. In one breath your told life isn’t fair, and in another you’ll hear cries for accountability or fairness to a person or persons who don’t have to be accountable or fair. It’s one of the reasons I find the word offensive so obnoxious. Because you don’t have a legal right to NOT be offended. I myself am injured at times by people’s ideologies and words. But it’s ridiculous for me to attempt to MAKE them stop.
Unless this guy commits a hate crime or suggests others should in an interview, this shouldn’t be shaped as the fake P.C. story it is. None of you, nor me, is that “good” a person. The NFL, NBA, and MLB have criminals too. If MMA isn’t strong enough to combat media critism, than it simply won’t be national. Hardcores will still know how to watch their sport, and life will go on. That in itself has it’s ironies. If some op-ed writer for a major newspaper says for the 300th time that MMA is a brutal anything goes cockfight I can be offended. It would be weak of me to try and get the man fired. I’d find it beneath me to take food from the man’s mouth. Instead, my lobby would be for education and debate. I think the same of the fighter discussed for his tattoo. We are talking about a sport where the object is to strike or submit an opponent using violent tactics, after all. It’s up to you to see the art involved.
Personally i'm a little confused why so many MMA fans are defending neo nazis and the tattoos claiming their not racist?
On sherdog, fans were saying that the swastika is used for other purposes, but the way the swastika tattoo is tilted, it's clear it is used for racist beliefs.
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Yes i said he was of mixed race the name and strange looks gave it away
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This is why Pride was so good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQPommve8JA
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Found another Russian with swastika tattoo, no idea if he's neo nazi or not.
Roman Zentsov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Zentsov
Deleted by Lisa -- No swastika photos here.
Other than that, anyone watching UFC 88 tonite?
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No I forgot it was on who is on the fight card?
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No I forgot it was on who is on the fight card?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_88
Starts at 10:00 eastern time (9:00 central) tonite
Announced matchups
Main Card
Light Heavyweight Bout: Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Light Heavyweight Bout: Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Middeweight Bout: Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Middleweight Bout: Nate Marquardt vs. Martin Kampmann
Welterweight Bout: Matt Brown vs. Dong Hyun Kim
Preliminary Card
Middleweight Bout: Jason MacDonald vs. Jason Lambert
Light Heavyweight Bout: Tim Boetsch vs. Mike Patt
Welterweight Bout: Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Lightweight Bout: Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Canceled Bouts
Welterweight Bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida (due to injury to Parisyan)
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No I forgot it was on who is on the fight card?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_88
Starts at 10:00 eastern time (9:00 central) tonite
Announced matchups
Main Card
Light Heavyweight Bout: Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Light Heavyweight Bout: Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Middeweight Bout: Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Middleweight Bout: Nate Marquardt vs. Martin Kampmann
Welterweight Bout: Matt Brown vs. Dong Hyun Kim
Preliminary Card
Middleweight Bout: Jason MacDonald vs. Jason Lambert
Light Heavyweight Bout: Tim Boetsch vs. Mike Patt
Welterweight Bout: Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Lightweight Bout: Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Canceled Bouts
Welterweight Bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida (due to injury to Parisyan)
I want Liddell to beat evens and I would like franklin to whoop hamill
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Oh yeah Franklin whooped Hamill
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Oh yeah Franklin whooped Hamill
I laughed when the crowd booed, I'm sure Hamill being deaf really knew what they were saying.
And I thought Ice man was dead from that knockout, was pretty crazy.