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Buchanan: Workers holding bailout bag again
Here's the latest bit of syndicated pornography penned by our very own favorite Jew-hustler, the one and only Fag Buchanus (yimach schmo vezichro). Who do you think this lowlife blames for the universal and complete corporate meltdown of the past several weeks--do any of you want to take a guess here, boys and girls (dang I miss the old rolleyes icon). Yup, you figured it out right--Buchanus (ys"vz) here attempts to argue that those evil, ZOG Jooish investors and bankers have bankrupted poor American workers.
The following was printed in today's Orange County Register, Wednesday, September 24, 2008 (and doubtless every other newspaper in the land*) in the Opinion section (page Local 15). All in-text notes, italics, etc. have been added by Chaimfan to emphasize his points.
PJB: An Amnesty for Stupidity
By Patrick J. Buchanan Faggot J. Buchanus
Is it fair that businessmen who fail in neighborhood stores have to close shop and often sell their homes, while Wall Street titans (Gee, I wonder who Buchanus means by that? He's sooo cryptic about it) are spared the consequences of monumental stupidity and greed?
No, it is not fair. Yet, Treasury’s Hank Paulson may be right. To save the sheep who might have been wiped out in a general financial panic, we may have to save the pigs. (What a lovely way to describe Jewry. Hardly original, but brilliant nonetheless.)
Life is unfair, said JFK.
Yet, this is going to be the mother of all bailouts. Paulson will be voted by Congress authority to spend $700 billion, 5 percent of our gross domestic product, to buy all that toxic paper stinking up the books of our biggest banks.
And this is not the first such bailout of foolish and incompetent financiers (Please interpret that for us, Mr. Buchanan) and politicians.
In 1975, when its cravenness to extortionate union demands had bankrupted New York, (I wonder what New York is a codeword for, Pat) the Big Apple had to be rescued by Gerald Ford.
Marion Barry’s Washington, D.C., was next in line at the cashier’s window. (Gimme a break, Patrick. We all know you love black Nazis.)
In the Reagan era, it was Chrysler. Later that decade, Citibank, Chase-Manhattan and Bank of America were staring into the abyss, as Latin American regimes, to whom they had lent scores of billions, were balking at paying their debts. Uncle Sam stepped in.
Then came the Mexican and Asian financial crises and the U.S.-IMF bailouts of the 1990s. The Mexican bailout was as much a rescue of Goldman-Sachs as Mexico City, as Treasury Secretary Bob Rubin’s old firm was choking on all its Mexican paper. (Yes! The one Jewish-owned investment firm in the stock market is responsible for that deadbeat narco state going belly up. Good analysis.)
The great myth is that these 1990s bailouts were models of U.S. financial statesmanship and great successes. The reality is the U.S. workers took it in the neck. (Translation: The evil Jews screwed over America.)
For the countries bailed out, like Mexico, Thailand, Indonesia and South Korea, were forced to devalue. This radically reduced the wages of their workers relative to American workers, creating incentives for U.S. manufacturers to shut plants here and move them abroad. The devaluations also slashed the price of foreign goods relative to U.S. goods. Imports flooded in.
Who ultimately paid for the Mexican bailout? Florida tomato growers wiped out by Mexican producers, the price of whose tomatoes was chopped two-thirds by the devaluation. U.S. autoworkers who saw Ford and Delphi plants shuttered as new Ford and Delphi plants opened in Mexico. U.S. textile workers whose mills closed and jobs vanished.
Middle-class American families have paid and paid — in lost jobs, lower wages, a falling median income — to save the big banks (Man oh man, I have no idea who you mean by "the big banks", Pat. Could you please enlighten me?) from the consequences of their follies. And those bank bailouts are behind the trade deficits that set five records in the Bush era, reached 6 percent of GDP, forced huge U.S. borrowings from abroad and ravaged the dollar.
Having bailed out Latin America, Mexico, Asia and their U.S. creditors, we now find our own country in trouble. And how are our allies reacting?
“Europeans on left and right ridicule U.S. money meltdown,” ran the Los Angeles Times headline. Italy’s finance minister compares us to corruption-ridden Albania, where “a nationwide pyramid scheme cost hundreds of thousands of people their savings and ignited anarchic civil conflict” in the 1990s.
How will the bailout work? Will every bank that brings in toxic paper be able to dump it on the Treasury? Will the Treasury buy securities based on subprime U.S. mortgages from foreign banks? Apparently so. What about mortgage-backed securities held by U.S. companies and individual investors? Is there to be a general amnesty for bad judgment, or just a bankers (It's not like anybody doesn't know what "banker" is a codeword for. You might as well drop the act already) amnesty?
About one thing we may be sure. The U.S. deficit and national debt are going to soar. The credit rating of the United States, as this nation of non-savers has to borrow abroad to save its banks, and their banks, is going to fall. We are going to be a poorer nation and people.
As for the promises and plans of Barack Obama and John McCain — be it for national health insurance or middle-class tax cuts — they are going by the wayside. For the United States is as bankrupt as Lehman Brothers, with this difference: Uncle Sam can still borrow from abroad because foreigners see many juicy U.S. assets they would like to take off our hands with their hoards of ever-cheapening U.S. dollars.
Looking at the federal budget — the five or six major items are Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, defense and interest on the debt. All are going up, as tax revenues fall. Add the cost of two wars and a bailout of U.S. banks that some estimate will cost $1 trillion to $2 trillion, and we appear to be looking at budget deficits ad infinitum.
“There is a great deal of ruin in a nation,” Adam Smith once consoled a friend who lamented that Britain would be ruined if the 13 Colonies were lost.
We are about to test Smith’s proposition.
*--Gee, you'd think that the "Jewish media" wouldn't want to print Buchanan's anti-Semitic tracts.
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lol, you realize the government did bail out Goldman Sachs. It was a high profile thing. Would you be satisfied if he said "Lehman Brothers" instead? Also, the people in charge of those institution (wall street titans) are "pigs" in this case. Why do you assume he is talking about jews?
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Those companies have'nt been Jewish owned for 40yrs i'msure Buchanus knows that.HE MUST MEAN THISGUY :::D http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,26618.0.html
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fact of the matter nobody..not even the media likes buchanus.
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Hello to you too, Tina Greco.
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lol, you realize the government did bail out Goldman Sachs. It was a high profile thing. Would you be satisfied if he said "Lehman Brothers" instead? Also, the people in charge of those institution (wall street titans) are "pigs" in this case. Why do you assume he is talking about jews?
Are you trying to defend Buchanan?
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lol, you realize the government did bail out Goldman Sachs. It was a high profile thing. Would you be satisfied if he said "Lehman Brothers" instead? Also, the people in charge of those institution (wall street titans) are "pigs" in this case. Why do you assume he is talking about jews?
Are you trying to defend Buchanan?
no, i'm demonstrating that you seem to find anti semitism in everything he says.
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That's because that's exactly what he is trying to do. Out of the dozens of banks tied up with bad loans to Third World countries, he singles out Goldman Sachs.
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That's because that's exactly what he is trying to do. Out of the dozens of banks tied up with bad loans to Third World countries, he singles out Goldman Sachs.
...any number of articles have singled them out as well. I guess they are anti semites too.
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Are you disagreeing just to disagree or are defending Buchanus?
Show me these articles that have singled out Goldman Sachs as a cause of the financial mess we are in.
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Are you disagreeing just to disagree or are defending Buchanus?
Show me these articles that have singled out Goldman Sachs as a cause of the financial mess we are in.
..Buchanan didn't even say that in the article. He just used them as an example.
but look, here's another article on them
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_lewis&sid=a6a6nqXGVdZY
go ahead and curse them too, say that this author should die of cancer or some disease as you love to do so much
Goldman Sachs is only one of the largest investment banks in the world, but i guess its anti semitism to use their name? If you want to attack buchanan, fine, attack him for legitimate anti semitism, not for anti semitism that you invent.
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THJ, you only come here to post to defend Muslim Nazis, attack U.S. soldiers, or defend people like Pat Buchanan. With all due respect, people are going to consider the source.
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THJ, you only come here to post to defend Muslim Nazis, attack U.S. soldiers, or defend people like Pat Buchanan. With all due respect, people are going to consider the source.
now you are just lying. What are you going to do next? Curse me to die of cancer?
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Didn't you say once that you wouldn't be sticking around this forum because of people yet.
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Didn't you say once that you wouldn't be sticking around this forum because of people yet.
nope
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Hmm, let's see here. In addition to making a vicious accusation against me, you wrote:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,25155.msg270187.html#msg270187
if JTF stands for supporting individuals who rape and kill teenagers, then i am wasting my time here.
If that is indeed what you believe that we are, then why have you remained here? Obviously you don't like supporting individuals who attack Nazis like Pat Buchanan, or cursing Nazis, or protesting it when Nazis single out Jews and Jewish establishments for attack and defamation. So, it seems that you are, indeed, wasting your time here. I clearly am wasting my time, too, for indulging you this far.
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lol, you realize the government did bail out Goldman Sachs. It was a high profile thing. Would you be satisfied if he said "Lehman Brothers" instead? Also, the people in charge of those institution (wall street titans) are "pigs" in this case. Why do you assume he is talking about jews?
Are you trying to defend Buchanan?
no, i'm demonstrating that you seem to find anti semitism in everything he says.
thj...buchanan is a nazi in the most obvious way..he admires Hitler...Buchanan is better off dead...
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Thank you for stating some common sense, Dan. I never thought I'd see the day that a JTFer is defending Buchanus.
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Hmm, let's see here. In addition to making a vicious accusation against me, you wrote:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,25155.msg270187.html#msg270187
if JTF stands for supporting individuals who rape and kill teenagers, then i am wasting my time here.
If that is indeed what you believe that we are, then why have you remained here? Obviously you don't like supporting individuals who attack Nazis like Pat Buchanan, or cursing Nazis, or protesting it when Nazis single out Jews and Jewish establishments for attack and defamation. So, it seems that you are, indeed, wasting your time here. I clearly am wasting my time, too, for indulging you this far.
yes, you excused the soldier that raped and killed girl and her family, simply because she was iraqi. As you said "3: What kind of punishment should this Iraqi Nazi family that was sheltering and assisting Al-Qaeda in Iraq received? They wouldn't have received anything from the Saudi-loving Dubya regime, but I think we can all agree that they did deserve execution."
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,25155.msg269923.html#msg269923
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lol, you realize the government did bail out Goldman Sachs. It was a high profile thing. Would you be satisfied if he said "Lehman Brothers" instead? Also, the people in charge of those institution (wall street titans) are "pigs" in this case. Why do you assume he is talking about jews?
Are you trying to defend Buchanan?
no, i'm demonstrating that you seem to find anti semitism in everything he says.
thj...buchanan is a nazi in the most obvious way..he admires Hitler...Buchanan is better off dead...
i'm not even defending buchanan here, i'm wondering why cf is calling him an anti semite just because he said "goldman sachs"
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Dude, it's time to come out of the closet already. In addition to lying about what I typed, you're just piling it on now. You seem to either be a Muslim or a paleocon.
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Dude, it's time to come out of the closet already. In addition to lying about what I typed, you're just piling it on now. You seem to either be a Muslim or a paleocon.
i lied or i quoted your own words?
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Umm, I think claiming I said something that I did not (that Muslim women should be raped) counts as a lie. And no, me saying terrorist-aiders should all be executed doesn't count. You bit off more than you can chew, bud. Time to go back to islamicity.com.
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Umm, I think claiming I said something that I did not (that Muslim women should be raped) counts as a lie. And no, me saying terrorist-aiders should all be executed doesn't count. You bit off more than you can chew, bud. Time to go back to islamicity.com.
i said you "supported" someone who did that, the soldier. You didn't like that he was facing capital punishment. Then you went on to say that the family did deserve execution.
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lol, you realize the government did bail out Goldman Sachs. It was a high profile thing. Would you be satisfied if he said "Lehman Brothers" instead? Also, the people in charge of those institution (wall street titans) are "pigs" in this case. Why do you assume he is talking about jews?
Are you trying to defend Buchanan?
no, i'm demonstrating that you seem to find anti semitism in everything he says.
thj...buchanan is a nazi in the most obvious way..he admires Hitler...Buchanan is better off dead...
i'm not even defending buchanan here, i'm wondering why cf is calling him an anti semite just because he said "goldman sachs"
he's an anti-semite even if he didn't say goldman sachs... It's moot what CF is implying...Buchanan is a Nazi...Period...
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No, I don't think that any U.S. soldier who kills the Nazi enemy should be executed for doing such. As for the particulars of what he was accused of, if you had paid a little more attention to that thread, you'd see that I wrote that any soldier who is that mentally compromised by PTSD should be institutionalized, but I suspect that you did and didn't want to acknowledge that. In any event, the man you work so hard to defend (Pat Buchanan) spent a lot of time of his own defending proven Nazi war criminals like John Demjanjuk ("Ivan the Terrible", an SS guard at the Sobibor extermination center) and Arthur Rudolph. Isn't it hypocritical of you to argue that a U.S. soldier who had a complete mental breakdown on the battlefield and was accused of killing ENEMY SYMPATHIZERS should be executed, while supporting an infamous anti-Semite who defended REAL war criminals--the most vile and satanic human beings who ever walked the face of the earth?
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Shalom,
Stop this bickering please...
C.F. I do think you are wrong in your position regarding this criminal soldier who raped and murdered a girl and her family. It was patently wrong and criminal. There is no excuse as you are trying to make. This man commited a serious and capital offense and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The claim that he was mentally incapacitated is not born out by the facts as this was a premeditated murder.
I dont like Buchanan but I dont think it is worth it to make a big deal about this topic. Goldman Sachs has made a big mistake and should be rebuked for their financial disaster. I certainly understand your sensitivity but things like this are difficult to prove by the evidence.
I will once again ask you, C.F. to reserve such terrible curses for the most deserving and not every person who does evil.
muman613
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Muman, we agreed to disagree on the former issue, pending whether Iraqis who aren't actual combatants, but merely support combatants, qualify as Amalek. I thought that they did; you weren't sure. Let's continue to agree to disagree. I brought this up because t_h_j said in that thread that he didn't want to stick around here. Sorry if it caused you distress.
Anyhow, of the Buchanan issue, I am quite sure that it's acceptable to curse him. Chaim himself curses him many times per week in Ask JTF. You can disagree with that, I suppose, but that is why I curse him.
Chaimfan.
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Shalom,
Stop this bickering please...
C.F. I do think you are wrong in your position regarding this criminal soldier who raped and murdered a girl and her family. It was patently wrong and criminal. There is no excuse as you are trying to make. This man commited a serious and capital offense and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The claim that he was mentally incapacitated is not born out by the facts as this was a premeditated murder.
I dont like Buchanan but I dont think it is worth it to make a big deal about this topic. Goldman Sachs has made a big mistake and should be rebuked for their financial disaster. I certainly understand your sensitivity but things like this are difficult to prove by the evidence.
I will once again ask you, C.F. to reserve such terrible curses for the most deserving and not every person who does evil.
muman613
The soldier should be punished but not executed. There was recently a Nigerian ape wearing the us military uniform who murdered an elderly Japanese cab driver because he couldn't pay the fare. He won't get the death penalty so this guy shouldn't either. I don't think the Iraqi family deserved to die even if it's proven they aided the insurgents because it's possible Al-Qaeda threatened them that if they didn't assist them they would be executed. This is a common tactic that Al-Qaeda uses. What do you think?
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Anyhow, of the Buchanan issue, I am quite sure that it's acceptable to curse him. Chaim himself curses him many times per week in Ask JTF. You can disagree with that, I suppose, but that is why I curse him.
Chaimfan.
CF,
Here is a list of Rabbi Nachmans sayings concerning Cursing:
http://www.breslov.org/torah/rabbeinu/alef_bet/midos19.html#k'lalah (http://www.breslov.org/torah/rabbeinu/alef_bet/midos19.html#k'lalah)
CURSING
A
1)
Cursing brings to mourning, God forbid.
2)
A person may not curse another unless he can forsee the future generations of the one he curses.
3)
The curse of an ordinary man should not be taken lightly.
4)
It is the intention behind the curse that matters.
5)
There are times when a Tzaddik's curse lasts only as long as he's alive and no longer has any effect once he's died.
6)
An undeserved curse eventually turns back on the curser.
7)
The wise man's curse, even if undeserved or conditional, takes effect.
8 )
Even the gentile who blesses a Jew will be blessed.
B
1)
A person who is always cursing comes from the World of Void, while the person who is wont to bless is from the World of Rectification.
2)
Investigating the world of emptiness - namely, what is above and below, what preceded this world and what follows it - brings a curse. The person who guards against such investigation brings about a blessing.
3)
A person who is accustomed to cursing will not have clothing for the Shabbat.
4)
A curse has no effect on a person of distinguished ancestry.
5)
Tending to the needs of the Tzaddik brings freedom and nullifies curses.
6)
Conducting one's business affairs faithfully nullifies curses.
7)
When a person curses his friend during a time of panic, the curse proves very damaging.
Regarding the fairness of the imposition of the death penalty, it is a difficult call. In general I support the death penalty for barbarous murders. What this means is premeditated and hateful murder. For instance I believed that OJ Simpson should have gotten the death penalty for killing his ex-wife and the Goldman man.
As I said I dont really know the facts in this case and because of this I can only have an opinion based on what I have read. From what I read it seemed like the accused had targeted this young girl and followed her to her home to commit sordid acts and to ultimately kill her family.
Good morning,
muman613
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<snip>
Anyhow, of the Buchanan issue, I am quite sure that it's acceptable to curse him. Chaim himself curses him many times per week in Ask JTF. You can disagree with that, I suppose, but that is why I curse him.
Chaimfan.
CF,
Here is a list of Rabbi Nachmans sayings concerning Cursing:
http://www.breslov.org/torah/rabbeinu/alef_bet/midos19.html#k'lalah (http://www.breslov.org/torah/rabbeinu/alef_bet/midos19.html#k'lalah)
CURSING
A
1)
Cursing brings to mourning, G-d forbid.
2)
A person may not curse another unless he can forsee the future generations of the one he curses.
3)
The curse of an ordinary man should not be taken lightly.
4)
It is the intention behind the curse that matters.
5)
There are times when a Tzaddik's curse lasts only as long as he's alive and no longer has any effect once he's died.
6)
An undeserved curse eventually turns back on the curser.
7)
The wise man's curse, even if undeserved or conditional, takes effect.
8 )
Even the gentile who blesses a Jew will be blessed.
B
1)
A person who is always cursing comes from the World of Void, while the person who is wont to bless is from the World of Rectification.
2)
Investigating the world of emptiness - namely, what is above and below, what preceded this world and what follows it - brings a curse. The person who guards against such investigation brings about a blessing.
3)
A person who is accustomed to cursing will not have clothing for the Shabbat.
4)
A curse has no effect on a person of distinguished ancestry.
5)
Tending to the needs of the Tzaddik brings freedom and nullifies curses.
6)
Conducting one's business affairs faithfully nullifies curses.
7)
When a person curses his friend during a time of panic, the curse proves very damaging.
Regarding the fairness of the imposition of the death penalty, it is a difficult call. In general I support the death penalty for barbarous murders. What this means is premeditated and hateful murder. For instance I believed that OJ Simpson should have gotten the death penalty for killing his ex-wife and the Goldman man.
As I said I dont really know the facts in this case and because of this I can only have an opinion based on what I have read. From what I read it seemed like the accused had targeted this young girl and followed her to her home to commit sordid acts and to ultimately kill her family.
Good morning,
muman613
I think I better give some tzedaka right now...that was good stuff...
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Muman: I voiced the opinion that I did because I know it's very possible for warfare to completely derange and destroy people mentally. We all know about My Lai. There have been NUMEROUS cases of Iraqi vets coming back not the same upstairs, sinking into a downward spiral, and ending up killing themselves and/or others. There was a recent case in San Clemente, CA (south Orange County) of a mentally-ill PTSD returning soldier who actually beat his live-in girlfriend to death with a hammer. (I realize that all of this, and bringing up that old thread to begin with, was a big tangent for this thread, but I wanted to show where t_h_j was a liar.)
Everybody: I am not out to claim that Goldman Sachs is innocent of crooked and greedy loans, and doesn't bear some responsibility for the financial crisis. All of the big banks/investment firms are up to their eyeballs in bad loans. What I was pointing out is that when GS is singled out as a corporate crook, and mentioned far and above more than any other financial institution, it's clearly anti-Semitism. GS is the only major Jewish-owned investment bank on Wall Street in a very WASP-dominated field. But people single them out because of their obvious Jewish-sounding name and because there will always be a sleazy underbelly of Jew-stereotyping in this and all other nations (i.e. the idea that Jews control all the banks, that there is a secret Jewish clique of economic power, etc.). We all know what Buchanan is trying to do here, which is to blame-the-Jew yet once more. That's the only thing that that Nazi knows how to do.
t_h_j: I have a very hard time believing you are a legitimate poster at all. Every time you post it is to mock or scoff at a JTF position. I didn't actually think I would see you defend Pat Buchanan, though. It's fine that there are critics and skeptics on this forum, but I think you just revealed your true colors to everybody here.
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Muman: I voiced the opinion that I did because I know it's very possible for warfare to completely derange and destroy people mentally. We all know about My Lai. There have been NUMEROUS cases of Iraqi vets coming back not the same upstairs, sinking into a downward spiral, and ending up killing themselves and/or others. There was a recent case in San Clemente, CA (south Orange County) of a mentally-ill PTSD returning soldier who actually beat his live-in girlfriend to death with a hammer. (I realize that all of this, and bringing up that old thread to begin with, was a big tangent for this thread, but I wanted to show where t_h_j was a liar.)
Everybody: I am not out to claim that Goldman Sachs is innocent of crooked and greedy loans, and doesn't bear some responsibility for the financial crisis. All of the big banks/investment firms are up to their eyeballs in bad loans. What I was pointing out is that when GS is singled out as a corporate crook, and mentioned far and above more than any other financial institution, it's clearly anti-Semitism. GS is the only major Jewish-owned investment bank on Wall Street in a very WASP-dominated field. But people single them out because of their obvious Jewish-sounding name and because there will always be a sleazy underbelly of Jew-stereotyping in this and all other nations (i.e. the idea that Jews control all the banks, that there is a secret Jewish clique of economic power, etc.). We all know what Buchanan is trying to do here, which is to blame-the-Jew yet once more. That's the only thing that that Nazi knows how to do.
t_h_j: I have a very hard time believing you are a legitimate poster at all. Every time you post it is to mock or scoff at a JTF position. I didn't actually think I would see you defend Pat Buchanan, though. It's fine that there are critics and skeptics on this forum, but I think you just revealed your true colors to everybody here.
yawn... once again you lie.
btw, Sachs isn't "jewish owned", unless you somehow think that all of the stockholders who own shares of it are jews. Its a public company.
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BTW... Im so sick of Fag Buchanan. Lets stop even mentioning that irrelevant old fossil.
Brian
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I am sick of that Nazi faggot too, but sadly every newspaper in the world, it seems, carries his pornographic "columns" a couple times a week. I just thought JTFers should be aware of Buchanus' most recent Jew-baiting. Yimach schmo to this faggot Hitlerite.