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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Roadwarrior on October 26, 2008, 11:58:00 PM
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The plot thickens ..........
it is still unknown whether this would be an original hospital-generated
birth certificate or a registation of birth based on a subsequent filing.
It was revealed that the motivation behind the request was political in nature. Something on that certificate could be politically embarassing.
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HONOLULU, Hawaii – Although the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama's birth certificate has become a focus of intense speculation – and even several lawsuits – WND has learned that Hawaii's Gov. Linda Lingle has placed the candidate's birth certificate under seal, and instructed the state's Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances.
The governor's office officially declined a request made in writing by WND in Hawaii to obtain a copy of the hospital-generated original birth certificate of Barack Obama.
"It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of Constituent Services in the governor's office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information.
Those listed as entitled to obtain a copy of an original birth certificate include the person born, or "registrant" according to the legal description from the governor's office, the spouse or parent of the registrant, a descendant of the registrant, a person having a common ancestor with the registrant, a legal guardian of the registrant, or a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant.
WND was told the official reason for denial of access to Obama's birth certificate would be authority granted pursuant to Section 338-18 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, a provision the anonymous source claimed was designed to prevent identity theft.
Still, the source told WND confidentially the motivation for withholding the original birth certificate was political, although the source refused to disclose whether there was any information on the original birth certificate that would prove politically embarrassing to Obama.
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The source also refused to answer WND's question whether the original document on file with the Department of Health was a hospital-generated birth certificate or a registration of birth that may have been filed subsequent to the birth.
The anonymous source made clear the Hawaii Department of Health would immediately release Obama's original birth certificate, provided Obama requested the document be released, but the Department of Heath has received no such request from the senator or from anyone acting officially on his behalf.
WND also found on microfilm in the Honolulu downtown public library a notice published under the "Births, Marriages, Deaths" section of the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser for August 13, 1961, on page B-6, noting: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack II Obama. 6085 Kalanianaole-Hwy, son, Aug. 4."
In searching through the birth notices of the Honolulu Advertiser for 1961, WND found many birth notices were published between one and two weeks after the date of birth listed.
The notice in the Honolulu Advertiser does not list the hospital where the Obama son was born or the doctor who delivered the baby.
In a startling development, Obama's Kenyan grandmother has reportedly alleged she witnessed Obama's birth at the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
Friday, U.S. Federal judge Richard Barclay Surrick, a Clinton appointee, dismissed a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania attorney Phillip J. Berg who alleged Obama was not a U.S. "natural born" citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency under the specifications of the U.S. Constitution, under Article II, Section 1.
Berg told WND last week he does not have a copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama that he alleges exists.
In Kenya, WND was told by government authorities that all documents concerning Obama were under seal until after the U.S. presidential election on November 4.
The Obama campaign website entitled "Fight the Smears" posts a State of Hawaii "Certificate of Live Birth" which is obviously not the original birth certificate generate by the hospital where Obama was born.
"Fight the Smears" declares, "The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America."
Although the Obama campaign could immediately put an end to all the challenges by simply producing the candidate's original birth certificate, it has not done so. And the "Fight the Smears" website offers no explanation as to why Obama has refused to request, and make public, an original hospital-generated birth certificate which the Hawaii Department of Health may possess.
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unbelievable.
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That which is done in the dark always comes to light. Eventually the public will learn the truth.
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WTF????????
NO OTHER presidential candidacy in our nation's great history has had everyone go to such great lengths to hide anything and everything.
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In searching through the birth notices of the Honolulu Advertiser for 1961, WND found many birth notices were published between one and two weeks after the date of birth listed.
this is not normal. if he had been born in Hawaii, there would not be gaps of up to 2 weeks to list the birth. Kenyan Grandma says she witnessed the birth. Not in Hawaii she didn't.
"In a startling development, Obama's Kenyan grandmother has reportedly alleged she witnessed Obama's birth at the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya."
Why don't these liars just tell the truth. Everything to do with Obama is a big secret or a cover up.
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"Obama's Kenyan grandmother has reportedly alleged she witnessed Obama's birth at the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya."
Perhaps a stupid question, but is it possible that this hospital in Kenya might have a record of the birth? Anyone looking there?
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Didn't some guy that was writing a book,
get held up in Kenya? Perhaps he was
looking for or found proof of live birth
in Kenya.
I had a dream 07.17.08 here it is, I know
it was about O_bomb_a
Haunted By Dream
I dreamed this the other day/night? but I
remain haunted by it. I believe it has prophetic
meaning. It was pretty jumbled and I only
remember certain parts, even after I awoke
to try to write it down.
I am not sure where it takes place. It was
possibly some sort of coliseum, and I say
this only because I was seeing this from a
balcony like seat. I did not feel I belonged
at this place, but I was there to oversee this
thing taking place.
A group of people brought in this substance
that appeared to be a type of skin. It was a
dark brown color but translucent and folded
over many times. There was some chanting
over it and it began to take on a form and
shape and have a heartbeat. The leaders
then laid hands on it and said something
and a metallic head appeared. This thing
was small enough for them to hold in their
hands. They laid it on an altar and the
people were amazed and cheered very
loudly.
Suddenly it grew to a huge monstrosity.
It was reddish in appearance, and reptile
like. I am having trouble describing it here,
although, I can see it clearly. I do know
it had a long tail and hind legs, possibly
arms or legs in front, and a horned head,
but not a horn per se. I could not stand
to look upon it long.
The next thing I remember is being outside
and near an orchard. It was spring and the
trees were loaded with fruit. I went over to
pick some fruit and it was spoiled with soft
spots all over even though it appeared to
be perfectly good. All of the fruit on the trees
was this way.
After seeing the fruit, I remember people
being stung with dart like prongs that caused
them to seize. They became zombie like.
The ones who were shooting at the people
were ones who were with the serpent like
monster. After a person was shot and the
poison took affect the person would then
worship the "thing" and seem to be totally
under its control.
I kept finding hiding places and was missed.
I don't know if I had my daughter or granddaughter
with me. They were of a younger age than
they are now. We watched as people all
around us became controlled. The eyes of
the people were glazed over and had a
vacant look. We had to be careful not to
look into their eyes, for they had the ability
to discern that we were not like them and
they would point us out.
I think we were in some kind of industrial
or commercial type building that was still
under construction. There were tall steel
columns holding up the floor above, but
everything was in the process of being
built now. It was getting closer to finish.
THE END
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Are you surprised?
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Assuming the story is true and the birth cert is an original
and not a cert based on a phone call registration
This could be his slick way of saying that he is "a natural born citizen"
but you wont see my birth cert ...
raising even more suspicions that it contains damaging info
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I wonder if perhaps she was paid off to do this???????? >:(
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The public knows more about Joe the Plumber's life than they know about Obama. Obama's campaign still has not apologized for how badly Joe is being treated by the media.
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unbelievable.
I wonder if perhaps she was paid off to do this???????? >:(
It doesn't pass the smell test ......
Also, didn't he go to Hawaii to visit his "sick" grandmother
who he threw under the bus in his Philadelphia speech.
Didnt Michelle say she was doing fine .....
Strange coincidence.
He managed to get the RINO governor of Hawaii in his pocket.
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The public knows more about Joe the Plumber's life than they know about Obama. Obama's campaign still has not apologized for how badly Joe is being treated by the media.
Joe the Plumber and Palin have been raked over the coals ...
but its "hands off" Obama
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unbelievable.
I wonder if perhaps she was paid off to do this???????? >:(
It doesn't pass the smell test ......
Also, didn't he go to Hawaii to visit his "sick" grandmother
who he threw under the bus in his Philadelphia speech.
Didnt Michelle say she was doing fine .....
Strange coincidence.
He managed to get the RINO governor of Hawaii in his pocket.
Yes, he not only went one time, but TWICE in 8 days I heard....
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Assuming the story is true and the birth cert is an original
and not a cert based on a phone call registration
This could be his slick way of saying that he is "a natural born citizen"
but you wont see my birth cert ...
raising even more suspicions that it contains damaging info
hi R.W.
Everything about Obama is a lie, a coverup, a fabrication....he is a liar and he's got the DNC covering up for him. I hope all of this gets exposed this week.
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Assuming the story is true and the birth cert is an original
and not a cert based on a phone call registration
This could be his slick way of saying that he is "a natural born citizen"
but you wont see my birth cert ...
raising even more suspicions that it contains damaging info
hi R.W.
Everything about Obama is a lie, a coverup, a fabrication....he is a liar and he's got the DNC covering up for him. I hope all of this gets exposed this week.
He plays a very good game of mental sleight of hand ....
With this type of news ....one would get the impression that he
has a valid ..Hawaiian Birth Cert ...unless what they have is not
an original but a Cert of Live Birth based on a call in .....
Also there is the Birth Announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser
which i posted a while back ...and which was discovered in July ....
What would Berg's move be in this Chess game .....
This would seem to be a setback for the Kenyan Birth Cert theorists