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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128578
Report: Mumbai Terrorists Abducted Chabad Rabbi's Family
Cheshvan 29, 5769, 27 November 08 06:11
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
(IsraelNN.com) Muslim terrorists in Mumbai reportedly have abducted Chabad Rabbi Gabriel Holtzberg, his wife Rivka and their child. Indian television reported that six Israelis are being held hostage.
The Foreign Ministry has not confirmed the report, and its last official statement was that no contact has been made with them. It added that 20 Israelis are missing since the terrorist attack Wednesday night.
Indian media reported that a couple and their teenage son, none of them Israelis, were killed in the Chabad House, called the Nariman House. One terrorist also was killed. Gunfire occasionally has been heard from the building, which the army has surrounded.
At least 101 people, including five terrorists, have died since the attacks began, and 600 others have been wounded. The terrorists have held more than 250 people as hostages in the Chabad House, a hospital and luxury hotels.
Several other Israelis have maintained telephone contact from their eight floor hotel rooms. The Chabad website reported that "the situation is grim." Commando forces have arrived by sea and are battling the terrorists in an effort to rescue the hostage victims.
The sophisticated terrorist attacks, the worst ever in Mumbai and India, hit nine locations as Mumbai is involved in elections. The terrorists struck with automatic weapons and grenades.
www.IsraelNationalNews.com
This is horrific!
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I prayed for their safety. I feel the worst about the poor child. Muslims are such animals!
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Let us pray for their safe return, as well as for the other (be they Americans. Britons or Indians) being held hostage by thes bastards.
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*gulp*
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As heard on TV, a terrorist who says his name is Imran Babur and does not tells his origin, claims live on phone that he has kept six hostages at Nariman House (Chabad House).
When TV Anchor requests him to release those innocent hostages. He retorts back and says - You call them innocent, they are Jewish.
The typical accent of him indicates clearly that he may be from North Pakistan or Pak occupied North Kashmir.
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As heard on TV, a terrorist who says his name is Imran Babur and does not tells his origin, claims live on phone that he has kept six hostages at Nariman House (Chabad House).
When TV Anchor requests him to release those innocent hostages. He retorts back and says - You call them innocent, they are Jewish.
The typical accent of him indicates clearly that he may be from North Pakistan or Pak occupied North Kashmir.
I hope they will all return safe and sound
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How much you wanna bet that the goat fornicaters were emboldened by Barack Hussein Obama's victory?
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How much you wanna bet that the goat fornicaters were emboldened by Barack Hussein Obama's victory?
Actually I think this was just an extension of a long standing problem India has had with Islamic terrorists. One cannot say that because they attacked now that it had anything to do with Obama. Al Queda has said that Americans and Brittons are targets and a variety of islamic terrorist groups have carried out several dozens of attacks in India in the last 15 years. In another thread I posted a timeline of Islamic terror in India.
Why do you think this attack is any different from the other attacks? These attacks occured under HW Bush, Clinton, and Bush and yet you don't blame them for those attacks.
I hate Al Queda and Islam as much as the next. But I have to be honest about this and it doesn't appear to me to be related to anything but islams continuing attack against India.
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How much you wanna bet that the goat fornicaters were emboldened by Barack Hussein Obama's victory?
Actually I think this was just an extension of a long standing problem India has had with Islamic terrorists. One cannot say that because they attacked now that it had anything to do with Obama. Al Queda has said that Americans and Brittons are targets and a variety of islamic terrorist groups have carried out several dozens of attacks in India in the last 15 years. In another thread I posted a timeline of Islamic terror in India.
Why do you think this attack is any different from the other attacks? These attacks occured under HW Bush, Clinton, and Bush and yet you don't blame them for those attacks.
I hate Al Queda and Islam as much as the next. But I have to be honest about this and it doesn't appear to me to be related to anything but islams continuing attack against India.
Any sign of weakness emboldens an enemy. There have been more attacks since Barack Hussein Obama's victory, and I don't think thats a coincidence. Even if the attack wasn't inspired by Obama, it certainly gave them a morale boost.
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This quranimals are totally out of controll. I have read today, that they looked specially for Jews and Christians in order to murder them.
India should get rid of this plague.
I hope, that the Jews will come out of the nightmare alive.
Die Koordinierung der Anschläge, die gezielte Suche nach Amerikanern, Briten, Juden und die Geiselnahmen lassen die Drahtzieher im Umfeld des islamistischen Terrornetzwerkes al Qaida vermuten.
The coordination of the attacks, the selective searching for Americans, British people and Jews and the taking of hostages makes it suspect, that the wire pullers are in the periphery of Al-Kaida.
Source: http://www.presseecho.de/politik/NA3731310279.htm
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Yes this is correct
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India's going to put out its usual generic statement denouncing terrorism and for both sides to show restraint. Then do nothing. This has been going on decades, so there's no real surprise here. As horrific as this is, how can I work up sympathy for a country that doesn't protect its own citizens, let alone visitors? My best advice is don't visit India, because they're not fighting the war on terror.
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India's going to put out its usual generic statement denouncing terrorism and for both sides to show restraint. Then do nothing. This has been going on decades, so there's no real surprise here. As horrific as this is, how can I work up sympathy for a country that doesn't protect its own citizens, let alone visitors? My best advice is don't visit India, because they're not fighting the war on terror.
They have a huge muslim minority, and have a nuclear armed muslim country that borders them to the North. What do you expect?
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India's going to put out its usual generic statement denouncing terrorism and for both sides to show restraint. Then do nothing. This has been going on decades, so there's no real surprise here. As horrific as this is, how can I work up sympathy for a country that doesn't protect its own citizens, let alone visitors? My best advice is don't visit India, because they're not fighting the war on terror.
They have a huge muslim minority, and have a nuclear armed muslim country that borders them to the North. What do you expect?
they also have a true religion of peace.. Hinduism. I think the strict ones wouldn't even uproot a plant.
Most of them look up to Ghandi's non violence.
There is a militant wing of hindus but I think the majourity of indian society is very passive.
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India's going to put out its usual generic statement denouncing terrorism and for both sides to show restraint. Then do nothing. This has been going on decades, so there's no real surprise here. As horrific as this is, how can I work up sympathy for a country that doesn't protect its own citizens, let alone visitors? My best advice is don't visit India, because they're not fighting the war on terror.
They have a huge muslim minority, and have a nuclear armed muslim country that borders them to the North. What do you expect?
So the alternative is to do nothing? Terrorism becomes just an accepted part of daily life? What a cowardly approach.
You do whatever you have to do to protect your citizens. Doing nothing only ensures defeat, and is certainly not what JTF is all about.
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I've noticed that the evil left-wing, self-serving media won't even report that these murderers and kidnappers are muslims.
They are protecting the death cult islam again. It's just disgusting.
G-d help the victims of these atrocities and I pray the sick nazi perpetrators will be killed quickly.
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I've noticed that the evil left-wing, self-serving media won't even report that these murderers and kidnappers are muslims.
They are protecting the death cult islam again. It's just disgusting.
G-d help the victims of these atrocities and I pray the sick nazi perpetrators will be killed quickly.
Amen
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I've noticed that the evil left-wing, self-serving media won't even report that these murderers and kidnappers are muslims.
They are protecting the death cult islam again. It's just disgusting.
G-d help the victims of these atrocities and I pray the sick nazi perpetrators will be killed quickly.
Amen
Amen again.
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They have a huge muslim minority, and have a nuclear armed muslim country that borders them to the North. What do you expect?
Maybe your friend Buchanan can go tell the Muslims to stop.
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I've noticed that the evil left-wing, self-serving media won't even report that these murderers and kidnappers are muslims.
They are protecting the death cult islam again. It's just disgusting.
G-d help the victims of these atrocities and I pray the sick nazi perpetrators will be killed quickly.
Fox News was calling them "Muslim militants" and "extremist Muslims" last night (to distinguish them from Muslims in general, which are peaceful, of course *rolls eyes*) and interviewed an Indian-American Christian professor who explained that this was an al-Qaedaesque plan to take over India for Islam. At least it was a start.
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the cook escaped and saved the 2 year old son of the rabbi and rebbetzin..
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the cook escaped and saved the 2 year old son of the rabbi and rebbetzin..
God have had mercy. :)
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the website of their chabad center is probably
http://www.chabad.org.in/
with these chabad centers
The whole center depends on the rabbi and rebbetzin..
these chabad centers in far out places help so many jews..
it takes really great rabbis to go to these far out places and bring up their families over there and live there, just to help jews that are typically just there visiting.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128578
Chabad House Attack
Chabad-Lubavitch emissary Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg and his wife Rivka were both reported unconscious, as were several of the Israelis, according to a babysitter who managed to escape with the couple's one and a half-year-old son Moshe.
(picture from arutz sheva)
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7235/resizeimgrh7.jpg)
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This is so sad. India needs to throw out the moosies. But that will never happen.
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This is so sad. India needs to throw out the moosies. But that will never happen.
True. India is even more dependent on Arab Nazi oil than we are.
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Indian commandos were dropped by helicopter on the roof of the besieged Chabad headquarters in Mumbai as Indian snipers at the site opened fire early Friday morning.
Sharpshooters in buildings opposite the headquarters of Chabad began shooting early Friday as a helicopter circled overhead.
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Latest news
1. one commando injured by grenade blast at the jewish center
2.3-4 terrorist still there which are throwing grenades as soon as commandos are trying to storm in
Watch: Chopper airdrops commandos at Nariman House
http://broadband.indiatimes.com/toishowvideo/3767662.cms
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Latest news
1. one commando injured by grenade blast at the jewish center
2.3-4 terrorist still there which are throwing grenades as soon as commandos are trying to storm in
We're praying for those brave commandos.
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They have to be stopped. This can't continue.
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5 more Israelis are/were held hostage in the hotel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92qrdGcMIyQ
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good news oberoi hotel is secured by the commandos there are still 2-4 terrorist in taj hotel and commandos have stormed jewish center
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We are praying for everyone's safe return from Mumbai. Looks like the Muslims are flexing their muscles again!
This is senseless violence against innocent people, they don't even know. They will be paid back three-fold for their lawlessness.
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India's going to put out its usual generic statement denouncing terrorism and for both sides to show restraint. Then do nothing. This has been going on decades, so there's no real surprise here. As horrific as this is, how can I work up sympathy for a country that doesn't protect its own citizens, let alone visitors? My best advice is don't visit India, because they're not fighting the war on terror.
They have a huge muslim minority, and have a nuclear armed muslim country that borders them to the North. What do you expect?
So the alternative is to do nothing? Terrorism becomes just an accepted part of daily life? What a cowardly approach.
You do whatever you have to do to protect your citizens. Doing nothing only ensures defeat, and is certainly not what JTF is all about.
no, do something, just try not to antagonize your neighbor with nukes.
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Newsflash, India has many more, and far more advanced, nukes than the Pakis. India could take care of Fudgepackistan's arsenal with one strike.
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Newsflash, India has many more, and far more advanced, nukes than the Pakis. India could take care of Fudgepackistan's arsenal with one strike.
Ameen...
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The rabbi and rebbetzin, and I think all the hostages there, are dead.
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The rabbi and rebbetzin, and I think all the hostages there, are dead.
The Rabbis baby survived
The baby was snuck out by a worker
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I'm curious as to why the Indians didn't do what the Russians did to those Chechnyan terrorists who held hostages at that opera house. First they knocked out everyone with some kind of sedating gas. Then they went in and shot all those terrorists dead.
Now granted, they lost some of the regular Russians. But so did the Indians, and they still have one terrorist survivor that they're interrogating.
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Maybe because of the many windows opened would make the gas effect negligible
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I'm curious as to why the Indians didn't do what the Russians did to those Chechnyan terrorists who held hostages at that opera house. First they knocked out everyone with some kind of sedating gas. Then they went in and shot all those terrorists dead.
Now granted, they lost some of the regular Russians. But so did the Indians, and they still have one terrorist survivor that they're interrogating.
The Moscow opera house was only almost a single large enclosure. Whereas at Mumbai, the two hotels had about 1000 separated rooms. Slight variation in concentrations at places for little more of time could have resulted in many more deaths of innocents.
Please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
However I think that some such sedative gas could have been used in the Chabad House.
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I've noticed that the evil left-wing, self-serving media won't even report that these murderers and kidnappers are muslims.
They are protecting the death cult islam again. It's just disgusting.
G-d help the victims of these atrocities and I pray the sick nazi perpetrators will be killed quickly.
yes
The Indian media is sold out thanks to arab-petrol money, none of the Indian media labeled the terrorists as "Islamic terrorists" but simply called them "terrorists"