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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chaim Ben Pesach on December 27, 2008, 11:55:39 PM
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I urge our members to comment as much as possible on the video, and to also rate the video "1" (the lowest possible rating).
On zootube/youtube: http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbb8d5P_R4&feature=channel_page
On flix: http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=3013225
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one star rating and comment posted
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When Will they stop LOL They are posting our web site. This is helping up
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1 star :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
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We're NOT that stupid you know :o
it's pretty obvious that JTF is behind these fake videos
I think I know why, but it's still a bad idea in my opinion.
smart people who see the "forgiving" nature of these videos towards the movement
as well as JTF's efforts to plug each and everyone of them as stickies (no less),
will think twice about the integrity of this movement, which in the end will leave you
only with a handful of well meaning morons who can't put 2 and 2 together, is this what we really want?
My suggestion is to drop this silly dog and pony show,
and go back to the meaningful and inspiring 10 minute info-clips, that's my 2 cents anyway
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We're NOT that stupid you know :o
JTF isn't. But who do you mean when you say "we"
Would you be a follower of a nazi sympathising dog lover?
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YamYam JTF isn't behind those videos. Peace Now supporters are behind the videos because they're scared of what Chaim can accomplish. That's why they're trying to harm his reputation and the reputation of JTF and Hayamin.
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We're NOT that stupid you know :o
it's pretty obvious that JTF is behind these fake videos
I think I know why, but it's still a bad idea in my opinion.
smart people who see the "forgiving" nature of these videos towards the movement
as well as JTF's efforts to plug each and everyone of them as stickies (no less),
will think twice about the integrity of this movement, which in the end will leave you
only with a handful of well meaning morons who can't put 2 and 2 together, is this what we really want?
My suggestion is to drop this silly dog and pony show,
and go back to the meaningful and inspiring 10 minute info-clips, that's my 2 cents anyway
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Here we go with the conspiracy kooks. How ridiculous.
It's interesting though that these videos are so ineffective that someone would actually suggest that JTF would do videos against itself.
If we are going to go through the trouble of making videos, we will make videos that promote our movement. Not videos that deliberately distort what we are saying.
While I believe that these videos give us needed publicity, they have not yet helped or hurt our movement. As far as I know, not one person has left JTF or Hayamin Haamiti in response to these videos. But on the flip side, despite the extra publicity, as far as I know not one person has joined JTF or Hayamin Haamiti as a result of these videos. So the videos so far are having no real effect.
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Hey, I enjoyed that video.
The Addams Family brought back memories. Really catchy theme song too.
I was singing along to it. Just changed the words a little.
The Peace Now movement started,
When Yitzchak Rabin farted,
They're altogether retarded,
The Peace Now Family !
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Hey, I enjoyed that video.
The Addams Family brought back memories. Really catchy theme song too.
I was singing along to it. Just changed the words a little.
The Peace Now movement started,
When Yitzchak Rabin farted,
They're altogether retarded,
The Peace Now Family !
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We're NOT that stupid you know :o
it's pretty obvious that JTF is behind these fake videos
I think I know why, but it's still a bad idea in my opinion.
smart people who see the "forgiving" nature of these videos towards the movement
as well as JTF's efforts to plug each and everyone of them as stickies (no less),
will think twice about the integrity of this movement, which in the end will leave you
only with a handful of well meaning morons who can't put 2 and 2 together, is this what we really want?
My suggestion is to drop this silly dog and pony show,
and go back to the meaningful and inspiring 10 minute info-clips, that's my 2 cents anyway
בס''ד
Here we go with the conspiracy kooks. How ridiculous.
It's interesting though that these videos are so ineffective that someone would actually suggest that JTF would do videos against itself.
If we are going to go through the trouble of making videos, we will make videos that promote our movement. Not videos that deliberately distort what we are saying.
While I believe that these videos give us needed publicity, they have not yet helped or hurt our movement. As far as I know, not one person has left JTF or Hayamin Haamiti in response to these videos. But on the flip side, despite the extra publicity, as far as I know not one person has joined JTF or Hayamin Haamiti as a result of these videos. So the videos so far are having no real effect.
You know what Chaim? out of respect for you and the cause,
I won't prove you wrong publicly, even though you did a sloppy job, leaving tale tell signs.
just to make it clear, we're all on the same side here - I thought I'd advice you to avoid from using
such childish and obvious tricks, because doing so reflects badly on all kahanists...
But hey, it's your party- knock yourself out...
for this movement's sake I hope some of the moderators are in the loop
and are just pretending to think these videos are really made by Peace Now..
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Hmmmmm. You disrespectfully make the accusation that Chaim is behind the video, but suddenly have too much respect for Chaim to prove your accusation ??
If you've got any proof or 'tell tale signs' then bring it. Otherwise, you're guilty of slander and full of crap.
Somehow I get the feeling you wont be able to provide any tell tale signs or evidence to back up your accusation.
Can you back up your accusation yamyam ? Or are you just a windbag making false accusations and stirring up trouble ?
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We're NOT that stupid you know :o
it's pretty obvious that JTF is behind these fake videos
I think I know why, but it's still a bad idea in my opinion.
smart people who see the "forgiving" nature of these videos towards the movement
as well as JTF's efforts to plug each and everyone of them as stickies (no less),
will think twice about the integrity of this movement, which in the end will leave you
only with a handful of well meaning morons who can't put 2 and 2 together, is this what we really want?
My suggestion is to drop this silly dog and pony show,
and go back to the meaningful and inspiring 10 minute info-clips, that's my 2 cents anyway
בס''ד
Here we go with the conspiracy kooks. How ridiculous.
It's interesting though that these videos are so ineffective that someone would actually suggest that JTF would do videos against itself.
If we are going to go through the trouble of making videos, we will make videos that promote our movement. Not videos that deliberately distort what we are saying.
While I believe that these videos give us needed publicity, they have not yet helped or hurt our movement. As far as I know, not one person has left JTF or Hayamin Haamiti in response to these videos. But on the flip side, despite the extra publicity, as far as I know not one person has joined JTF or Hayamin Haamiti as a result of these videos. So the videos so far are having no real effect.
You know what Chaim? out of respect for you and the cause,
I won't prove you wrong publicly, even though you did a sloppy job, leaving tale tell signs.
just to make it clear, we're all on the same side here - I thought I'd advice you to avoid from using
such childish and obvious tricks, because doing so reflects badly on all kahanists...
But hey, it's your party- knock yourself out...
for this movement's sake I hope some of the moderators are in the loop
and are just pretending to think these videos are really made by Peace Now..
If you don't tell us what your "tell tale" signs are, I'm going to ban you.
And don't insult our intelligence by saying how much you respect me and the cause. Or by pretending that you are a Kahanist.
I won't have time to respond to you today, but I can't wait to see your "proofs".
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I really don't know JamJam. "Antichaimbenpessach" is raging on Zootube since the time I joined JTF. This would really be a long-time-conspiracy. And I really doubt that any of us would have so much free time to maintain this kind of play over this periode.
Plus the Adams family idea is not new. One year ago there was a video with photoshopped pictures of David and Chaim in a ghost castle as some kind of monsters.
Perhaps the peace now people are either silly or quite young.
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YamYam is probably someone affiliated with Tina Greco. I would not be surprised if it is Newman.
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We're NOT that stupid you know :o
it's pretty obvious that JTF is behind these fake videos
I think I know why, but it's still a bad idea in my opinion.
smart people who see the "forgiving" nature of these videos towards the movement
as well as JTF's efforts to plug each and everyone of them as stickies (no less),
will think twice about the integrity of this movement, which in the end will leave you
only with a handful of well meaning morons who can't put 2 and 2 together, is this what we really want?
My suggestion is to drop this silly dog and pony show,
and go back to the meaningful and inspiring 10 minute info-clips, that's my 2 cents anyway
בס''ד
Here we go with the conspiracy kooks. How ridiculous.
It's interesting though that these videos are so ineffective that someone would actually suggest that JTF would do videos against itself.
If we are going to go through the trouble of making videos, we will make videos that promote our movement. Not videos that deliberately distort what we are saying.
While I believe that these videos give us needed publicity, they have not yet helped or hurt our movement. As far as I know, not one person has left JTF or Hayamin Haamiti in response to these videos. But on the flip side, despite the extra publicity, as far as I know not one person has joined JTF or Hayamin Haamiti as a result of these videos. So the videos so far are having no real effect.
You know what Chaim? out of respect for you and the cause,
I won't prove you wrong publicly, even though you did a sloppy job, leaving tale tell signs.
just to make it clear, we're all on the same side here - I thought I'd advice you to avoid from using
such childish and obvious tricks, because doing so reflects badly on all kahanists...
But hey, it's your party- knock yourself out...
for this movement's sake I hope some of the moderators are in the loop
and are just pretending to think these videos are really made by Peace Now..
If you don't tell us what your "tell tale" signs are, I'm going to ban you.
And don't insult our intelligence by saying how much you respect me and the cause. Or by pretending that you are a Kahanist.
I won't have time to respond to you today, but I can't wait to see your "proofs".
Ok Chaim go ahead, ban me,
All I tried to do is help, but fine - obviously
I'm an inconvenience to you and your little false flag games,
so I won't say another word about it - my intention was pure,
and by the way I am a kahanist for 20 years now,
that's why I felt the need to advice you against these videos,
perhaps I was wrong to do this in a public manner,
but I did so because I feel it's a debate worth having among JTFers.
anyway I'll get out of your hair guys, I seem to have overstayed my welcome here,
so feel free to ban me, delete my account and messages or whatever else that suits your desire
but just know this, when people will catch on (and they will) it will be a devastating blow
to an otherwise important kahanist movement that is on the rise, this is an historical junction
and to "blow it" because of these silly videos would be nothing less than a tragedy.
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yamyam is from Israel, no doubt some stupid lefty over there who's in favor of vivisecting little Israel.
So I'll tell you what. Show us your proof today, or I'll ban you myself, you little snot nosed brat!
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YamYam is employing a typical strategy used by the left. A simple deceptive lie is all it takes to cause some people to question the movement. I don't think that Chaim is making anti-Chaim videos. This YamYam is suffering from the same derangement as the 9/11 troofers are. They come up with 'evidence' which is not really evidence of anything but their own mental problems.
The troll makes so many accusations but proves nothing. Mentioning 'tell-tale signs' which don't exist. I think this troll belongs in the trash can along with all the other banned slimeballs. This person is no Kahanist and no Jew.
Go away troll... I can see through your deceptive clothing...
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I'll be more than happy to oblige, Muman. But first I want to mess with him/her/it some more.
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yamyam is from Israel, no doubt some stupid lefty over there who's in favor of vivisecting little Israel.
So I'll tell you what. Show us your proof today, or I'll ban you myself, you little snot nosed brat!
Lisa, now that you say he is from Israel, I think he is probably part of Guzofsky's (bowel) movement. The claim to be a long-time Kahanist is what gives it away.
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It is Guzofsky's pet theory. I guess when you hang around dogs, your thinking is lowered to one, and your appetite raised to one.
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That was kinda funny in a way. At least he didnt put up the Munsters.
Is "Thing" suppose to be Chaim? Who would be Morticia? Me? LOL.. What about Gomez?? C.F.?? Who would Wednesday and Pugsly be?? Masterwolf? Ruby? Where & WHO was Cousin It? David Ben Moshe?? LOL :laugh: Who is LURCH?? Shlomo? this was kinda funny :::D WHO WAS GRANDMA??? Gertrude Cooper, David Ben Moshes old lady friend LOL this was kinda funny, sorry people, I DO have a sense of humor.
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Looks like yamyam has no proof to back up his accusation. So he scurried out of here like rat.
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Hey, I enjoyed that video.
The Addams Family brought back memories. Really catchy theme song too.
I was singing along to it. Just changed the words a little.
The Peace Now movement started,
When Yitzchak Rabin farted,
They're altogether retarded,
The Peace Now Family !
They like to lie about Chaim,
how Israel'd be better off dyin',
our comments leave them cryin',
they're really pathetic swine,
the "Peace Now" family!
They like to have gay sex parties,
with muslim & Croat nazis,
they're a bunch of retarded hussies,
the "Peace Now" family!
They like to suck up to Arabs,
saying Jewish land's up for grabs,
their leader's just caught crabs,
the "Peace Now" family!
So get a "Peace Now" shawl on,
so you too can be a bolshevik moron,
were gonna pay a call on,
the "Peace Now" family!
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I really liked the Addams family shows. It's too bad Peace Now had to use that show like that.
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They are doing a good job of posting the link but a bad job on there videos. I give a five star only on the song but a one star on videos.
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Was AmericanHero the short hairy one??? :::D
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff95/travler1990/FaithAdams.jpg)
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Was AmericanHero the short hairy one??? :::D
You should not be talking Uncle Fester
(http://maggieg.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/f_charge.jpg)
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What on earth? We are making videos against ourselves? lol
I think there might be better ways to promote the movement than insulting ourselves. That doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Let me tell you first hand, Chaim got a brand new computer and his video stuff isn't set up yet. That's why we haven't had new videos. I know because I'm the one working on his computer and Chaim and I have been so busy trying to launch the new web site, we haven't had time to get the drivers working on his new machine - much less work on new content.
All you had to do was ask but why so rude and disrespectful? It seems like you are trying to cause problems or unsuccessfully hurt our movement. As the others, I sense you have ulterior motivations - especially since these are your very first posts. I think a ban might be in order.
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1 star. These people behind these videos, don't know we are getting a kick out of this. :::D
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Brings back nostalgia for the days when they actually had quality programming on television.
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Guzofsky boasted from day one that chaim was 'making videos against himself' apparently in jealousy that Peace Now scum had no interest in him or his followers? Whatever the case may be, it is clear that his 5-man "posse" at his "forum" quickly began parroting him like lemmings, lapdogs, and yesmen as soon as he said it....
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Guzofsky's theory about this has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Why would Chaim do this to himself? That's ridiculous. :laugh:
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Guzofsky's theory about this has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Why would Chaim do this to himself? That's ridiculous. :laugh:
Guzofsky is completely unintellectual.. I think with people like that, they have a silly thought in 2 seconds, and no matter how much longer they think , their idea stays as it is.
thing is though, it's a sick idea, and Mike Guzofsky is sick himself.
The reality is, Mike Guzofsky has allowed a nazi on his "forum"(because it was an anti-jtf nazi no doubt), shown repeatedly that he didn't care, and he has banned jews simply for telling him that his behaviour "was" disgusting and unkahanist. Somebody like Mike Guzofsky is sick and so he ascribes sickness to others. Just like arabs in 1967 fled when israel beat them, because they thought israelis would do to them what they would do to israelis. Just like arab propaganda about how bad israel is, and how much israel hates them, is really a reflection of how much they hate israel. Just as nice thick people often assume everybody else is nice, so too, sick dumb people like Mike Guzofsky or Arabs, assume that everybody else thinks like them too. Decent people see it as sick..
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What the? How dare they insult the Addams Family? That was a great show!
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What on earth? We are making videos against ourselves? lol
I think there might be better ways to promote the movement than insulting ourselves. That doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Let me tell you first hand, Chaim got a brand new computer and his video stuff isn't set up yet. That's why we haven't had new videos. I know because I'm the one working on his computer and Chaim and I have been so busy trying to launch the new web site, we haven't had time to get the drivers working on his new machine - much less work on new content.
All you had to do was ask but why so rude and disrespectful? It seems like you are trying to cause problems or unsuccessfully hurt our movement. As the others, I sense you have ulterior motivations - especially since these are your very first posts. I think a ban might be in order.
OMYG-D!! Someone thinks that Chaim made these??
Are you kidding? OMY L-RD! :laugh:
Look... Shlomo, David Ben Moshe and I- AND Chaim KNOW about Chaims COMPUTER issues!!! tThis is RIDICULOUS! ABSURD!!
These videos have been going on for quite some time.
FYI YamYam.. David came to HELP Chaim with his computer- he HAD to get a LOT of NEW things- we had to order PARTS, including MAKING videos because it was NOT COMPATIBLE with his computer, I WAS THERE.
Chaim was STUCK and didnt make ANY Videos for a WHILE.
YamYam, I see you are new, so I wont be a jerk- but I AM TELLING THE TRUTH here- Chaim did NOT NOT NOT do those videos nor did ANY of these people.
And YamYam, I am sorry- but I AM NOT A PERSON try to invoke anger in against my SWEET ADORABLE LOVING AWESOME WONDERFUL HANDSOME TALENTED SMART BROTHER CHAIM.
DONT do this anymore. And I AM DEAD SERIOUS.
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What on earth? We are making videos against ourselves? lol
I think there might be better ways to promote the movement than insulting ourselves. That doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Let me tell you first hand, Chaim got a brand new computer and his video stuff isn't set up yet. That's why we haven't had new videos. I know because I'm the one working on his computer and Chaim and I have been so busy trying to launch the new web site, we haven't had time to get the drivers working on his new machine - much less work on new content.
All you had to do was ask but why so rude and disrespectful? It seems like you are trying to cause problems or unsuccessfully hurt our movement. As the others, I sense you have ulterior motivations - especially since these are your very first posts. I think a ban might be in order.
OMYG-D!! Someone thinks that Chaim made these??
Are you kidding? OMY L-RD! :laugh:
Look... Shlomo, David Ben Moshe and I- AND Chaim KNOW about Chaims COMPUTER issues!!! tThis is RIDICULOUS! ABSURD!!
These videos have been going on for quite some time.
FYI YamYam.. David came to HELP Chaim with his computer- he HAD to get a LOT of NEW things- we had to order PARTS, including MAKING videos because it was NOT COMPATIBLE with his computer, I WAS THERE.
Chaim was STUCK and didnt make ANY Videos for a WHILE.
YamYam, I see you are new, so I wont be a jerk- but I AM TELLING THE TRUTH here- Chaim did NOT NOT NOT do those videos nor did ANY of these people.
And YamYam, I am sorry- but I AM NOT A PERSON try to invoke anger in against my SWEET ADORABLE LOVING AWESOME WONDERFUL HANDSOME TALENTED SMART BROTHER CHAIM.
DONT do this anymore. And I AM DEAD SERIOUS.
I can't say for sure if it's Chaim himself or one of the movement member's doing,
but it IS an obvious pro JTF account, and the fact that it is Chaim who keeps
track of new videos and informing us of them through endless stickies, lead me to suspect
that the very least, he's informed about this by the one who makes and uploads these videos.
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IT IS NOT CHAIM YOU DUMB A##. NOW YOU ARE CALLING ME A LIAR.
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What on earth? We are making videos against ourselves? lol
I think there might be better ways to promote the movement than insulting ourselves. That doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Let me tell you first hand, Chaim got a brand new computer and his video stuff isn't set up yet. That's why we haven't had new videos. I know because I'm the one working on his computer and Chaim and I have been so busy trying to launch the new web site, we haven't had time to get the drivers working on his new machine - much less work on new content.
All you had to do was ask but why so rude and disrespectful? It seems like you are trying to cause problems or unsuccessfully hurt our movement. As the others, I sense you have ulterior motivations - especially since these are your very first posts. I think a ban might be in order.
OMYG-D!! Someone thinks that Chaim made these??
Are you kidding? OMY L-RD! :laugh:
Look... Shlomo, David Ben Moshe and I- AND Chaim KNOW about Chaims COMPUTER issues!!! tThis is RIDICULOUS! ABSURD!!
These videos have been going on for quite some time.
FYI YamYam.. David came to HELP Chaim with his computer- he HAD to get a LOT of NEW things- we had to order PARTS, including MAKING videos because it was NOT COMPATIBLE with his computer, I WAS THERE.
Chaim was STUCK and didnt make ANY Videos for a WHILE.
YamYam, I see you are new, so I wont be a jerk- but I AM TELLING THE TRUTH here- Chaim did NOT NOT NOT do those videos nor did ANY of these people.
And YamYam, I am sorry- but I AM NOT A PERSON try to invoke anger in against my SWEET ADORABLE LOVING AWESOME WONDERFUL HANDSOME TALENTED SMART BROTHER CHAIM.
DONT do this anymore. And I AM DEAD SERIOUS.
I can't say for sure if it's Chaim himself or one of the movement member's doing,
but it IS an obvious pro JTF account, and the fact that it is Chaim who keeps
track of new videos and informing us of them through endless stickies, lead me to suspect
that the very least, he's informed about this by the one who makes and uploads these videos.
Everyone can be automatically informed about these videos via subscribing to the publishers' account or by manually searching or checking relevant tags. And the reason that the videos are announced here is because we make a group effort to respond and refute the stupid lies that they try to spread.
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What on earth? We are making videos against ourselves? lol
I think there might be better ways to promote the movement than insulting ourselves. That doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Let me tell you first hand, Chaim got a brand new computer and his video stuff isn't set up yet. That's why we haven't had new videos. I know because I'm the one working on his computer and Chaim and I have been so busy trying to launch the new web site, we haven't had time to get the drivers working on his new machine - much less work on new content.
All you had to do was ask but why so rude and disrespectful? It seems like you are trying to cause problems or unsuccessfully hurt our movement. As the others, I sense you have ulterior motivations - especially since these are your very first posts. I think a ban might be in order.
OMYG-D!! Someone thinks that Chaim made these??
Are you kidding? OMY L-RD! :laugh:
Look... Shlomo, David Ben Moshe and I- AND Chaim KNOW about Chaims COMPUTER issues!!! tThis is RIDICULOUS! ABSURD!!
These videos have been going on for quite some time.
FYI YamYam.. David came to HELP Chaim with his computer- he HAD to get a LOT of NEW things- we had to order PARTS, including MAKING videos because it was NOT COMPATIBLE with his computer, I WAS THERE.
Chaim was STUCK and didnt make ANY Videos for a WHILE.
YamYam, I see you are new, so I wont be a jerk- but I AM TELLING THE TRUTH here- Chaim did NOT NOT NOT do those videos nor did ANY of these people.
And YamYam, I am sorry- but I AM NOT A PERSON try to invoke anger in against my SWEET ADORABLE LOVING AWESOME WONDERFUL HANDSOME TALENTED SMART BROTHER CHAIM.
DONT do this anymore. And I AM DEAD SERIOUS.
I can't say for sure if it's Chaim himself or one of the movement member's doing,
but it IS an obvious pro JTF account, and the fact that it is Chaim who keeps
track of new videos and informing us of them through endless stickies, lead me to suspect
that the very least, he's informed about this by the one who makes and uploads these videos.
First, you accused me of making the videos. Now you say it might be one of our members.
I know about the videos because Popeye sends a message to our youtube account the minute he uploads a new video. Popeye knows we are going to publicize the video and he wants us to.
Also, I tell everything to David Ben Moshe. If we were doing something like this, I would tell David Ben Moshe and AisheDina(who is David's fiance). So AisheDina knows that this is Peace Now.
In fact, AisheDina had an exchange of emails with Popeye and nearly scared Popeye into stopping these videos. Yes, AisheDina has that effect on self-hating wimps. I asked AisheDina not to frighten Popeye any more, because we want the videos to continue. But Popeye nearly stopped doing the videos because of something AisheDina wrote to him.