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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chaim Ben Pesach on December 30, 2008, 03:56:11 PM
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The Peace Now traitor who has made so many videos against us uses his own voice in his latest smear video!
This is the most vicious video of them all. This traitor puts on an American accent when he speaks Hebrew (to ridicule my American background). But he clearly is an Israeli.
I hesitate to translate the vile things that this beast says about me and about HaRav Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik vekadosh livracha hashem yikom damo (may the memory of this saint be immortalized, may G-d avenge his blood). He pretends that I am speaking (which is why he uses a phony American accent), and he accuses me and Rabbi Kahane and the Kahanists of the most disgusting and sick things that you can imagine. He also says in the video that he is happy that Rabbi Kahane was murdered.
I do urge our members to respond to this piece of human sewage, and to rate the video "1" (the lowest rating).
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=2OFd--4b2LU&feature=channel_page
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That idiot sounds like a wannabe gangsta.
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Ah, yes -- can't have too many slimeballs on this planet! ;-)
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Yimach Schmo to this schmo!
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Yimach Schmo to this schmo!
you are probably not jewish, right?
That hebrew curse is done to very evil people. It does apply here(though it makes more sense for jews to say it, it is hebrew).
Shmoe is more of a joke word. It doesn't go with a serious hebrew curse.
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Yimach Schmo to this schmo!
you are probably not jewish, right?
That hebrew curse is done to very evil people. It does apply here(though it makes more sense for jews to say it, it is hebrew).
Shmoe is more of a joke word. It doesn't go with a serious hebrew curse.
Nah. I'm not Jewish.
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I think it's better if people use curses or exclamations from their own background.
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What's wrong with righteous Gentiles saying "yimach shmo" to self-hating scum like this? Peace Now are not only enemies of the Jewish people, they are also enemies of anyone who wants to save Western civilization from Islamic terrorist genocide.
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That guy certainly does deserve to have that curse against him.
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That guy certainly does deserve to have that curse against him.
Precisely.
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This schmuck! I cant understand.
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Flag this stupid video for it's misleading text.
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Chaim is right, that this kind of people put our whole civilization in danger.
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1 star for the fag and comment
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commented and flagged them all.
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What's wrong with righteous Gentiles saying "yimach shmo" to self-hating scum like this? Peace Now are not only enemies of the Jewish people, they are also enemies of anyone who wants to save Western civilization from Islamic terrorist genocide.
it is fitting for that scum..
but gentiles often don't realise the gravity of the expression.
e.g. as was the case here, to say "ymach shmo to that shmoe".. (shmoe is more of a joke thing)..
Or as is the case with others, a handful of people have in the past used the expression on lots of people e.g. on the satmar rebbe or michael savage, or me. It is inevitable that immature ones will misuse them..
And one of the things that distinguishes one nation from another is language. If gentiles start trying to use jewish language all over the place, like they are jews, then it just blurs things. And some do.. once they learn one term, they learn others. Enough to sound a bit jewish. That's besides the fact that they use them inappropriately. We've seen it for daven.. next it'll be the Pope issues a teffilah, or a refuah shelaimah.
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What are some more nice Jewish curses besides "yimach shmo"?
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What are some more nice Jewish curses besides "yamach shmo"?
nice, huh.. deary me.
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What's wrong with righteous Gentiles saying "yimach shmo" to self-hating scum like this? Peace Now are not only enemies of the Jewish people, they are also enemies of anyone who wants to save Western civilization from Islamic terrorist genocide.
it is fitting for that scum..
but gentiles often don't realise the gravity of the expression.
e.g. as was the case here, to say "ymach shmo to that shmoe".. (shmoe is more of a joke thing)..
Or as is the case with others, a handful of people have in the past used the expression on lots of people e.g. on the satmar rebbe or michael savage, or me. It is inevitable that immature ones will misuse them..
And one of the things that distinguishes one nation from another is language. If gentiles start trying to use jewish language all over the place, like they are jews, then it just blurs things. And some do.. once they learn one term, they learn others. Enough to sound a bit jewish. That's besides the fact that they use them inappropriately. We've seen it for daven.. next it'll be the Pope issues a teffilah, or a refuah shelaimah.
Take it easy. Will You? The point of this post is the Schmuck (oops I used a hebrew insult) who made this zootube video against chaim. You have something to say about every little thing and yet nothing with the post. Just relax.
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one star rated and comment
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Take it easy. Will You? The point of this post is the Schmuck (oops I used a hebrew insult) who made this zootube video against chaim. You have something to say about every little thing and yet nothing with the post. Just relax.
In a thread a number of things can be discussed, there is no need to create new threads for each thing. This is a serious matter too.
This is not an exercise where you have to say whatever comes into your head regarding the first post. Chaim said
"I do urge our members to respond to this piece of human sewage, and to rate the video "1" (the lowest rating)."
That's a request for an Action
You could comment here saying that his voice sounds like darth vader or ricky lake, but it wouldn't be very useful or serious. You could point out that he is a bad person, but we know that.
There is nothing wrong with a thread touching on related subjects. This is a serious one, and it is perhaps not so good to make a new thread of it unnecessarily.
The examples I described were quite different from your calling somebody a shmuck, which is safe and easy enough that jackie mason uses it to his audience of many gentiles. It's not ideal but I don't think you'd make a mess of it.. Others, as I said, would seek to use as many words as possible and there are problems there.
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This swine sounds like a possible homo. Lets hope he gets the AIDS he deserves from his "partner." I expected it to be someone like this, a typical Tel Aviv homo.
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Well, in this particular case I will support q_q_s objection to non-Jews using Jewish curses and hebrew or yiddish expressions. As he points out often these expressions are misused and become 'borrowed' by non-Jewish culture which in turn will tarnish the expression. Hebrew and yiddish are both very deep and meaningful languages with many nuances which are lost in translation. Please non-Jews be sensitive to the feelings of the Jews who post and read this site. I agree with all posts here that those scum who make these videos are cursed and deserving of harsh words.
PS: Its not that we don't love you and feel special because we keep these ideas seperate but we do have to fight against assimilation in our days.
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A few days ago, I saw a scumbag traitor Jew like this walking around Jerusalem with a kaffiyeh around his neck.
I wanted to deck him and throw him into oncoming traffic, but since I'd rather not go to prison, I held myself back.
Death is too good for traitors like this.
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This swine sounds like a possible homo. Lets hope he gets the AIDS he deserves from his "partner." I expected it to be someone like this, a typical Tel Aviv homo.
That may actually be true. If you understand the Hebrew of what he says towards the end, you can say that it only could have been made up by a degenerate.
I wish I hadn't watched this vile video. I want to vomit. The sickness of these people know no bounds.
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This guy deserves a Kassam Rocket up his ass
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What are some more nice Jewish curses besides "yamach shmo"?
nice, huh.. deary me.
What I MEANT was...What are some more strong and powerful Hebrew curses besides that one ultra-familiar one??
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What are some more nice Jewish curses besides "yamach shmo"?
nice, huh.. deary me.
What I MEANT was...What are some more strong and powerful Hebrew curses besides that one ultra-familiar one??
Although Chaim uses that one all the time, it is a very strong one, prob the strongest, and so he uses it against Hitler and Arafat.
My rabbi came up with a great one against Arafat, he said it while Arafat was still alive.. he said it in english but no doubt it has a standard hebrew equivalent. "Arafat, May his bones be crushed"
Another thing he does is if talking in the synagogue and he has to mention arabs or muslims, he sometimes avoids their names.. So he would never say Mohammed, he would say "that arab", as in That arab that founded theire religion, he wouldn't say "islam" in the synagogue. He wouldn't say mosque, he'd say "that structure they built on the temple mount".. If somebody calls out the name he is avoiding he'd close his eyes and make a stop sign with his hands. He now lives in Israel.
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I found this one on a Web page and I thought it was pretty good for Obama or someone else evil.
"You should be like a chandelier -- you should hang and burn."
Pretty good. I don't know if it's authentic but it's clever.
http://www.folklore.ms/html/recitations/short_recitations/toasts/curses/yiddish_curses.htm
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What are some more nice Jewish curses besides "yamach shmo"?
nice, huh.. deary me.
What I MEANT was...What are some more strong and powerful Hebrew curses besides that one ultra-familiar one??
There is its 'twin' course- "Shem reshaim yirkav".
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I think that PeaceNEVER is getting TERRIBLE with his videos. NO WONDER nobody goes and looks now!!! Chaim is not on there speaking! :::D
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What are some more nice Jewish curses besides "yamach shmo"?
nice, huh.. deary me.
What I MEANT was...What are some more strong and powerful Hebrew curses besides that one ultra-familiar one??
There is its 'twin' course- "Shem reshaim yirkav".
Well he HATES being called a HOMO DRAG QUEEN. :guitar:
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What are some more nice Jewish curses besides "yamach shmo"?
nice, huh.. deary me.
What I MEANT was...What are some more strong and powerful Hebrew curses besides that one ultra-familiar one??
There is its 'twin' course- "Shem reshaim yirkav".
Well he HATES being called a HOMO DRAG QUEEN. :guitar:
The truth hurts.
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Nice try Chaim...
but here's the original video from the REAL "peace now" guy,
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=sjn67jm9E4s
notice he doesn't enthusiastically plug the site's address on the screen like your version.
and by the way those fake text videos don't require any video equipment,
all you need is windows movie maker which comes with every edition of Windows XP.
so it's a nice solution for you I guess to keep being an influence in youtube
until you get all of your video gear set up...
people have to realize that the last thing peace now would do
is publish the site's address so much, and write chaim's talking points word for word.
If you have a functioning brain and can read hebrew, you can tell it's chaim
or one of the hebrew admins/moderators, it's a shame you choose to lie to your followers,
Rabbie kahane zt"l would NEVER approve of this.
I know I said I won't talk about this anymore, but this video was meant to debunk my claims
and it almost worked, I was about to write a long apology here, until I saw the same video
in the real anti chaim account which is spelled "antihaimbenpesach (http://il.youtube.com/user/antihaimbenpesach)"(lowercase) as apposed to JTF's mock account "AntiChaimBenPesach (http://il.youtube.com/user/AntiChaimBenPesach)".
you wanna ban people for insisting JTF remains true and honest? fine.
obviously you know I'm not peace now, you know I'm right about this, and it's bothering you
that there's a kahanist jew that is criticizing you - fine, I get it.
but you'll never become a mass movement by trying to quiet people that criticize you when you're wrong.
And by the way, as opposed to what you may think, I'm a big fan of yours.
I think you are a gifted speaker and a brilliant debater,
and that's why it saddens me to be attacked like this
for criticizing what I consider to be a bad move for JTF.
I criticize this decision to make fake videos ONLY because
I hate to see JTF losing it's credibility as a movement.
if you don't want to publicly admit you're behind the fake videos, that's ok.
but PLEASE stop making and posting them on the forum, it will only cause damage to this movement.
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Here is my response to yamyam:
This is so ridiculous.
So you admit that the other youtube accounts were in fact started by Popeye from Peace Now. Here are the facts:
1. Popeye has numerous accounts on zootube - antihaimbenpesach, AntiChaimBenPesach, chaimbenpesach and many others. I frankly don't have time to go looking for all of his accounts, but there are many.
2. Popeye has been redoing and recycling his old videos against us for a year now. If you go the chaimbenpesach page, he has 18 videos, most of which are recycled copies of the same thing. If you go to the antihaimbenpesach page, he has 16 videos, many of which are recycled versions of the same thing. And he uses his own voice on some of the videos. So the fact that one or more of the videos was recycled is nothing new. This is something that this is done on all of his accounts, and you admit that the other accounts are from Popeye.
3. Popeye also places our address on many of his videos on all of his accounts. This is also nothing new. If you check the videos on the other accounts (which you acknowledge are from Popeye), you will find our address on most of his videos there as well.
4. Popeye has done videos with just a little commentary in the beginning, and then a long clip of our programs - and Popeye has videos like this on ALL of his accounts, which you acknowledge were the accounts of this self-hating leftist.
I could easily refute every silly point you are making with links, but frankly I don't have the time.
Now you are banned.
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One other thing, "yamyam". There is no doubt that your claim to be concerned about the movement is a lie.
Give us your full name and give us proof so that we can verify that it is you. If you are really so interested in honesty, this should not be a problem. After all, everyone knows my full name in Hebrew and in English.
Why do you use an anonymous email server to hide your real email address? What are you hiding? I have made my name public, and my face and my voice, for many years now.
What a phony you are.
BTW, "yamyam" writes that anyone who speaks Hebrew would know if this is real or fake.
VERY TRUE! We agree on something!
Not one Hebrew-speaking Israeli who has seen these videos has made this ridiculous allegation. Dozens of Israelis have commented on the videos. Some are rightists, some are leftists. Every single Israeli who has commented knows that this is typical of Peace Now and many suspect Yariv Oppenheimer himself of doing these videos.
You can also go to our very active Hebrew forum to see what Israelis think of these videos.
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I am an American Christian, help me to understand, Why is another Jewish person bashing Chaim, who stands for truth and Justice, Israel, and God's people.
Debbie
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What I MEANT was...What are some more strong and powerful Hebrew curses besides that one ultra-familiar one??
There is its 'twin' course- "Shem reshaim yirkav".
Sounds good, Zelhar! :-) But what is the exact or literal translation?
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What I MEANT was...What are some more strong and powerful Hebrew curses besides that one ultra-familiar one??
There is its 'twin' course- "Shem reshaim yirkav".
Sounds good, Zelhar! :-) But what is the exact or literal translation?
Translation: "May the name of the wicked rot."
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They also have another account call JewishTaskForce, which is another anti-JTF channel. There are indeed numerous anti JTF channels.
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How can you see whats going on if the picture is blerry?