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Israel is using controversial white phosphorus shells to push forward with a ground offensive against the densely-populated Gaza Strip.
White phosphorus, classified as 'chemical weapon' by the US intelligence, can cause horrific burns and severe injuries in anyone exposed to the element released from artillery shells.
"The explosions are fantastic looking, and produce a great deal of smoke that blinds the enemy so that our forces can move in," an Israeli security expert was quoted by the Times Online.
The shells were used by the artillery on Gaza City on Sunday, as Israeli tanks and ground forces pushed further into the region, tightening military grip on the city.
At least 555 Palestinians have been killed and some 2,790 have been wounded since December 27, when Tel Aviv began its military campaign on Gaza.
Earlier Sunday, Dr. Mads Gilbert, a member of a Norwegian triage medical team in Gaza, told Press TV that the medics have found depleted uranium in some Gaza residents.
The Gaza Strip, one of the world's densely-populated areas, has been under an Israeli blockade since the Hamas movement won a majority in the 2006 Palestinian election and took control of the area in mid-June 2007.
According to Times Online, the use of unconventional weapons in Gaza is likely to ignite more controversy over the methods the Israeli army uses.
Tel Aviv had previously used white phosphorus during the 2006 war with Lebanon.
Israel says its latest military campaign aims to force Hamas to stop its rocket attacks on southern Israel.
Hamas has reportedly said it would stop retaliatory attacks if Tel Aviv lifts the 18-month blockade of the coastal sliver.
The Bush administration has expressed its support for the ongoing military campaign, saying Israel was provoked by Hamas.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Friday that the Hamas movement has held hostage the Palestinians who live in Gaza and have had "a very bad daily life."
Congressman Ron Paul has, however, decried the Israeli raids, rejecting the idea that Hamas is threatening Tel Aviv's security; "Palestinian missiles are so minor compared to the fire power of Israel, who has nuclear weapons."
World leaders, meanwhile, have called for an immediate halt in the attacks on Gaza.
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=80720§ionid=351020202
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This troll is continually posting anti-Israel pieces from nazi news sources.
EDIT: Let's keep it civil.
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This troll is continually posting anti-Israel pieces from nazi news sources.
Oh wow I am being called a Troll
Get your facts straight before you call a person a troll
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This troll is continually posting anti-Israel pieces from nazi news sources.
thunderbolt, Americanhero is far from a troll. If you had a problem with a news source he is using, you could have just told him that.
I don't think calling him a troll and asking for him to be banned is helpful.
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"White phosphorus added to Israeli fire"
That stuff kills the enemy? Good, then Israel should use it.
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I could think of a few worse things to toss on the filthy animals. Phosphorus is actually the least of the evils. Its a great deterrent and it lights up the night real nice. The few down sides it has make very little difference lets face it it being used in warfare. thunderbolt Americanhero is far from a troll if you don't care for the sources he is using tell him. I think he is just posting stuff he thinks might be interesting and our members may want to comment on. I have seen articles posted by other members from far worse sources then this.
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The article actually has a bit of an eye opener in it.
Earlier Sunday, Dr. Mads Gilbert, a member of a Norwegian triage medical team in Gaza, told Press TV that the medics have found depleted uranium in some Gaza residents.
What were the Arabs doing to cause this?
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Earlier Sunday, Dr. Mads Gilbert, a member of a Norwegian triage medical team in Gaza, told Press TV that the medics have found depleted uranium in some Gaza residents.
I'm for using un-depleted uranium. :::D
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The Bush administration has expressed its support for the ongoing military campaign, saying Israel was provoked by Hamas.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Friday that the Hamas movement has held hostage the Palestinians who live in Gaza and have had "a very bad daily life."
What an annoying woman..
THEY VOTED FOR HAMAS!!!
Congressman Ron Paul has, however, decried the Israeli raids, rejecting the idea that Hamas is threatening Tel Aviv's security; "Palestinian missiles are so minor compared to the fire power of Israel, who has nuclear weapons."
Throw a bag of ants into his home.
See if he applies his argument then!
I guess according to him, you're only allowed to go to war if there's a good chance that you'll lose.
Pour hornets into his home while he is there, then I guess he's allowed to try to get rid of them!
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The article actually has a bit of an eye opener in it.
Earlier Sunday, Dr. Mads Gilbert, a member of a Norwegian triage medical team in Gaza, told Press TV that the medics have found depleted uranium in some Gaza residents.
What were the Arabs doing to cause this?
You and I both know that the Norwegians are Nazi-lovers (ever heard of the Quislings?) who were behind Oslo, the "peace process" with the Tamil Muslim Nazis in Sri Lanka, the genocide against the Serbs, and pretty much every other Nazi or Islamic cause on the planet. They would naturally make up anything to make the Jews look bad.
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It bears repeating...what did the Arabs do to cause depleated uranium in Gaza residents ? That is same question that came to my mind.
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This troll is continually posting anti-Israel pieces from nazi news sources.
Actually you'll notice that anti-israel websites have the best news about israel smashing the arabs.
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Congressman Ron Paul has, however, decried the Israeli raids, rejecting the idea that Hamas is threatening Tel Aviv's security; "Palestinian missiles are so minor compared to the fire power of Israel, who has nuclear weapons."
Looks like we didn't get the worst possible candidate afterall. Even Barack Osama condemned the rocket attacks and said Israel has the right to defend itself.
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Congressman Ron Paul has, however, decried the Israeli raids, rejecting the idea that Hamas is threatening Tel Aviv's security; "Palestinian missiles are so minor compared to the fire power of Israel, who has nuclear weapons."
Looks like we didn't get the worst possible candidate afterall. Even Barack Osama condemned the rocket attacks and said Israel has the right to defend itself.
think a bit.. judge things on actions. And anyhow, know that barack often says things to please the person he is speaking to. He melts in.
Barack Obama has to concentrate on the economy at the moment.
If you refer to the comment Barack made on his visit to sdorot, that if rockets were landing in his daughter's backyard he'd do everything in his power to stop it.. You didn't consider that they weren't landing in his daughter's backyard. Nor did you think about the fact that he didn't say it was right or wrong. So it could be thought of as the same kind of "If I was persecuted i'd do everything to defeat the persecutor". That doesn't say whether he thinks it's right or not. Don't paint things so simply.
How on earth can you listen to one remark and suddenly conclude who is a better candidate.. how silly. Though Ron paul is irrelevant now anyway.
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Congressman Ron Paul has, however, decried the Israeli raids, rejecting the idea that Hamas is threatening Tel Aviv's security; "Palestinian missiles are so minor compared to the fire power of Israel, who has nuclear weapons."
Looks like we didn't get the worst possible candidate afterall. Even Barack Osama condemned the rocket attacks and said Israel has the right to defend itself.
This just means that he's smart enough to practice taqqiyah. The dumb Nazis like Ron Paul are those who say exactly what is on their mind. The smart Nazis like Obama know how to keep their mouths shut a little.
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Troll!!!! :::D :::D :::D
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This troll is continually posting anti-Israel pieces from nazi news sources.
thunderbolt, calm down. Americanhero is one of our most dedicated members. He's a tremendous asset to this forum, rather than being a "troll." You're barking up the wrong tree here.
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Why they are adressing this phosphor grenades in this way? Why they are making a really big story from this.
I.e. Time magazine titles today with "Israel let Phosphor rain over Gaza" I have translated the title from a quote in SPON. I think it is only in the print-edition, because I didn't find it online.
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,599555,00.html
Every army has this type of grenades, shells or earth-illuminants. And every army uses it in nearly every maneuver. I didn't know how much devices that contained phosphor I fired and detonated - this was in peace-times -
Yes it is true, that it is dangerous if you come in contact with it. But a normal bomb is hundred times more dangerous.
So this bolschewist media whores are looking only for something in order to blaim the Jews. Shame on them.
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I'm afraid that the white phosphorous would have only been used as a smokescreen agent. It should have been dropped in large quantites directly over the muslim rats along with other blistering agents.
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I thank G-d that the Israeli's have disproportionate power as compared to Hamas and the Arabs. Imagine if they didn't. Imagine, G-d forbid, if they were like the Jews in Germany, who had no power at all. What fool decries Israel for having more power than their enemy? Answer: Only a fool who can't stand a Jew (and Jewish nation) who survives!
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THUNDERBOLT- I know you have also been here a long time, but do NOT call A.H. a TROLL----EVER.
As for this article, I DONT CARE WHAT THEY DO- DESTROY THIS ENEMY and drive them OUT.
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Rather they should have used yellow Phosphorous with Sodium in an attempt to obtain Sodium Phosphate as a by-product.
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Hmmm... and regarding the depleted uranium in some Gaza locations, the Israeli bunker busters had inadvertently hit deep at some huge uranium deposits.
All the strikes to be repeated exactly to locate the uranium deposits.
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Earlier Sunday, Dr. Mads Gilbert, a member of a Norwegian triage medical team in Gaza, told Press TV that the medics have found depleted uranium in some Gaza residents.
I'm for using un-depleted uranium. :::D
I am against it, that thing is highly toxic and endangers the troops who use it. I am also no sure if the IDF uses DU, and the Arabs are big liars.
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Every army has this type of grenades, shells or earth-illuminants. And every army uses it in nearly every maneuver. I didn't know how much devices that contained phosphor I fired and detonated - this was in peace-times -
Yes it is true, that it is dangerous if you come in contact with it. But a normal bomb is hundred times more dangerous.
So this bolschewist media whores are looking only for something in order to blaim the Jews. Shame on them.
True most flares are phosphorous
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=com.yahoo%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=96t&q=+U.S.+ARMY+phosphorus+flares&btnG=Search
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Yes Mord, this is true. But not only IR-countermeasures contain this element, but forefront-illumination devices too.
I am not shure if smoke devices of the German army contain phosphor, but it is possible.
I bet, that this issue would never be raised by the media, except if Americans and Israelis use it, because it is since hundred years common.
It is obvious - the bolschewist media are looking only for something to blaim the Jews. Pfui!
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Yes Mord, this is true. But not only IR-countermeasures contain this element, but forefront-illumination devices too.
I am not shure if smoke devices of the German army contain phosphor, but it is possible.
I bet, that this issue would never be raised by the media, except if Americans and Israelis use it, because it is since hundred years common.
It is obvious - the bolschewist media are looking only for something to blaim the Jews. Pfui!
True Russia used it as well in Georgia
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White phosphorus (WP) is a flare- and smoke-producing incendiary weapon, or smoke-screening agent, made from a common allotrope of the chemical element phosphorus. White phosphorus bombs and shells are incendiary devices, but can also be used as an offensive anti-personnel flame compound capable of causing serious burns or death.The agent is used in bombs, artillery shells, and mortar shells, short range missiles which burst into burning flakes of phosphorus upon impact. White phosphorus is commonly referred to in military jargon as "WP". The slang term "Willy(ie) Pete" or "Willy(ie) Peter", dating from the First World War and common at least through the Vietnam era, is still occasionally heard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus
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White phosphorus (WP) is a flare- and smoke-producing incendiary weapon, or smoke-screening agent, made from a common allotrope of the chemical element phosphorus. White phosphorus bombs and shells are incendiary devices, but can also be used as an offensive anti-personnel flame compound capable of causing serious burns or death.The agent is used in bombs, artillery shells, and mortar shells, short range missiles which burst into burning flakes of phosphorus upon impact. White phosphorus is commonly referred to in military jargon as "WP". The slang term "Willy(ie) Pete" or "Willy(ie) Peter", dating from the First World War and common at least through the Vietnam era, is still occasionally heard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus
Yes, but the ammunition of the IDF contains only this element, but is not made to hit with it people directly. They didn't use it to burn people, it is not effective for this purpose, but to illuminate the forefront and/or to produce smoke.
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White phosphorus (WP) is a flare- and smoke-producing incendiary weapon, or smoke-screening agent, made from a common allotrope of the chemical element phosphorus. White phosphorus bombs and shells are incendiary devices, but can also be used as an offensive anti-personnel flame compound capable of causing serious burns or death.The agent is used in bombs, artillery shells, and mortar shells, short range missiles which burst into burning flakes of phosphorus upon impact. White phosphorus is commonly referred to in military jargon as "WP". The slang term "Willy(ie) Pete" or "Willy(ie) Peter", dating from the First World War and common at least through the Vietnam era, is still occasionally heard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus
Yes, but the ammunition of the IDF contains only this element, but is not made to hit with it people directly. They didn't use it to burn people, it is not effective for this purpose, but to illuminate the forefront and/or to produce smoke.
March 1988: According to an undated ANSA article quoted by an RAI documentary, white phosphorus was used by Saddam Hussein during the Halabja poison gas attack: (transl.) "On the morning of March 16, 1988, the Iraqi aerial forces bombed several times the city with a chemical cocktail of nerve agents: yperite, tabun, VX, napalm and white phosphorus." WP use had not been previously mentioned in other reports on Halabja,but the use of napalm was commonly reported.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_use_in_Iraq
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This are totally different weapons American Hero, althrough both of them contain among others the same element phosphor.
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Pheasant, you have to excuse Americanhero. He is a troll.
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Yes don't feed me
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Pheasant, you have to excuse Americanhero. He is a troll.
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Yeah! Don't feed the troll. :eat:
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Muslamics are expecting that Israel should throw shells at them filled with Chocolates.
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Pheasant, you have to excuse Americanhero. He is a troll.
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Yeah! Don't feed the troll. :eat:
Trolls are supposed to be big and green.