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Title: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: Americanhero1 on March 05, 2009, 02:42:25 PM
WINNIPEG, Manitoba – A Canadian judge ruled Thursday that a man accused of beheading and cannibalizing a fellow Greyhound bus passenger is not criminally responsible due to mental illness.

The decision means Chinese immigrant Vince Li will be treated in a mental institution instead of going to prison. The family of victim Tim McLean said Li got away with murder.

"A crime was still committed here, a murder still occurred," said Carol deDelley, McLean's mother. "There was nobody else on that bus holding a knife, slicing up my child."

Li stabbed McLean dozens of times and dismembered his body last July while horrified passengers fled.

Justice John Scurfield said the attack was "barbaric" but "strongly suggestive of a mental disorder."

"He did not appreciate the actions he committed were morally wrong," Scurfield said.

Both the prosecution and the defense argued Li can't be held responsible because he had schizophrenia and believed God wanted him to kill McLean because the young man was evil.

Li will be institutionalized without a criminal record and reassessed every year by a mental health review board to determine if he is fit for release.

DeDelley said a yearly hearing is ridiculous and Li should be locked up for the rest of his life.

That Li killed the 22-year-old carnival worker was never in question at the trial. Li has admitted he killed McLean but pleaded not guilty.

Witnesses said Li attacked McLean unprovoked as their bus traveled at night along a desolate stretch of the Trans-Canada Highway.

Passengers fled and stood outside as Li stabbed McLean dozens of times and beheaded and mutilated his body. Finding himself locked inside the bus, Li finally escaped through a window and was arrested.

Li then apologized and pleaded with police to kill him.

Police said McLean's body parts were found throughout the bus in plastic bags, and the victim's ear, nose and tongue were found in Li's pocket.

A psychiatrist called by the prosecution testified that Li cut up McLean's body because he believed that he would come back to life and take revenge.

After the trial, government prosecutor Joyce Dalmyn said people who are mentally ill should not be treated, not convicted, when they don't know what they did was wrong.

Li's lawyer, Alan Libman, said, "Mr. Li advised me after court that he's going to work with his treatment team because it's his desire to get better."

McLean's family says they will fight the law that allows people who are found not criminally responsible to be released into the community once they are deemed well, without serving a minimum jail sentence.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090305/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_beheading
Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on March 05, 2009, 02:48:12 PM
This guy should be fry!!! He beheaded an innocent victim!!!
Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 05, 2009, 02:51:34 PM
That's what happens when you have a postmodernist society that does not believe that right and wrong exist. Canada is even farther gone than the United States. Canada is now where America will be in another ten years.
Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: muman613 on March 05, 2009, 03:05:48 PM
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Death to the evil murderer!

This is a travesty of justice. Insane, all Islamists are insane... They should die for their sin...
Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on March 05, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Death to the evil murderer!

This is a travesty of justice. Insane, all Islamists are insane... They should die for their sin...


Muman, it is insane beyond words. The Canadians are sending a messgae out loud and clear: If you commit a barbaric murder we will let you go free because we say you didn't know what you were doing. Now other Canadians will get ideas and then plea insane to get off scott free.
Was this Monster a Moslem?


                                                             Shalom - Dox
Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on March 05, 2009, 03:46:47 PM

"Li then apologized and pleaded with police to kill him."

Does that mean he wanted the cops to kill him after the rampage and they didn't? He wanted to die and they didn't let him?

Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: muman613 on March 05, 2009, 03:51:22 PM
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Death to the evil murderer!

This is a travesty of justice. Insane, all Islamists are insane... They should die for their sin...


Muman, it is insane beyond words. The Canadians are sending a messgae out loud and clear: If you commit a barbaric murder we will let you go free because we say you didn't know what you were doing. Now other Canadians will get ideas and then plea insane to get off scott free.
Was this Monster a Moslem?


                                                             Shalom - Dox

Im not sure if in this case he was or not... My point is that if this is the level of justice then any evil can be perpetrated in the name of evil... He said he thought the victim was evil.... By what definition of evil?
Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: spiritus_persona on March 05, 2009, 04:55:53 PM
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Death to the evil murderer!

This is a travesty of justice. Insane, all Islamists are insane... They should die for their sin...


Muman, it is insane beyond words. The Canadians are sending a messgae out loud and clear: If you commit a barbaric murder we will let you go free because we say you didn't know what you were doing. Now other Canadians will get ideas and then plea insane to get off scott free.
Was this Monster a Moslem?


                                                             Shalom - Dox

Our justice system has been pussified by the bleeding hearts.  If you are handicapped, retarded, or underage, you can commit all the crimes you want and not suffer the consequences.  This is the result of an unarmed society and a deballed population.

And I have a strong feeling that he is a muslim.  Who else other than allah tells people to commit cold-blooded murder?
Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on March 05, 2009, 05:13:37 PM
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Death to the evil murderer!

This is a travesty of justice. Insane, all Islamists are insane... They should die for their sin...


Muman, it is insane beyond words. The Canadians are sending a messgae out loud and clear: If you commit a barbaric murder we will let you go free because we say you didn't know what you were doing. Now other Canadians will get ideas and then plea insane to get off scott free.
Was this Monster a Moslem?


                                                             Shalom - Dox

Our justice system has been pussified by the bleeding hearts.  If you are handicapped, retarded, or underage, you can commit all the crimes you want and not suffer the consequences.  This is the result of an unarmed society and a deballed population.

And I have a strong feeling that he is a muslim.  Who else other than allah tells people to commit cold-blooded murder?

In this case I think it would be befitting if the family considered taking matters into their own hands. If the family was charged, they should plea insane as a result of their grief.  Their grief caused them insanity therefore they are not liable either. The Canadian Justice system would have no case against them.
Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: zachor_ve_kavod on March 05, 2009, 05:19:14 PM
I heard about this on the news this morning.  What a disgrace!  We've devalued life to the point where the most gruesome murder is punishable by a comfortable and temporary hospital stay.  This is an unspeakable injustice.  And America is next!
Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on March 05, 2009, 05:28:39 PM
I heard about this on the news this morning.  What a disgrace!  We've devalued life to the point where the most gruesome murder is punishable by a comfortable and temporary hospital stay.  This is an unspeakable injustice.  And America is next!


Zachor, G-d forbid! Zachor, let us all keep praying 24/7 to Hashem for intervention. Hashem will hear us if we are serious and begging with our Hearts.



                                                                              Shalom - Dox
Title: Re: Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
Post by: Xoce on March 05, 2009, 06:27:32 PM
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"judge" john scurfield has blood on his hands.

ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!!
Attention all murderers, cannibals, and other low-lifes:  move to canada, you will at worse get a therapy session and yearly assessment after you brutally murder and maim!

And regards to whether or not his act was a result of "sudden jihad syndrome" we probably will never know, thanks to the heads-up-their-*sses in Canada.

Well you know, beheadings are frequent in all cultures and "religions," aren't they?
(sarcastic)

Oh and Tim McLean could quite possibly be alive today if it weren't for the ABSOLUTE COWARDS sitting on the bus with him, and the COWARDLY so-called law enforcement TEAM who stood by, OUTSIDE the bus, while Vince Li continued his cannibalism rampage and desecration.

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