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Title: 60 Minutes
Post by: RationalThought110 on March 26, 2007, 08:05:40 PM
Anyone watch it Sunday night? 

A guy who was participating in terrorist recruitment and terrorist activity finally asked Al-Qaeda why he should continue murdering people?.  Instead of giving him a rational response like he hoped for, they instead ordered him to go to Iraq and cause chaos there.  He knew they weren't answering his question and instead were ordering him, so it was at that point that he quit working for the terrorist network.  Now he says he wants to try and convince young people in those countries that they are being brain washed and that they shouldn't join in on terrorism. 
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: cjd on March 26, 2007, 08:13:16 PM
I didn't see the show on Sunday but I think they had that guy on some other show on the Fox channel. If its the same guy he was quite interesting. He really spelled out how the system works.
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Din Rodef on March 26, 2007, 09:31:35 PM
****You might think I'm crazy...but please consider my thoughts on this subject***

I've read that Osama Bin Laden has condemned Al Qaeda's actions against fellow Muslims in Iraq.

There is a Pakistani journalist (can't remember his name) that is Bin Laden's "go to" man when it comes to public relations. This journalist was recently interviewed on a Conservative Christian radio show and said that OBL now realizes that not all Westerners are evil. He says that he believes only the governments in the West are anti-Islam and that the Christian people are on his side.

I believe that Osama Bin Laden is getting ready to change his public stance against terrorism. I know this sounds crazy, but there is precedent. If OBL can remake himself as a peacemaker then he can become another Yasser Arafat. If OBL were to be recognized by the international community, then he could become the de-facto leader of the Muslim Nation.

Believe it or not, I believe that OBL will try to remake himself as a peacemaker after the next set of terror attacks takes place against Western targets.

We already know that half of America (Liberals) and most of Europe (Nazis) would be willing to take sides with OBL. The only thing missing is international recognition. OBL can get UN recognition if he "plays a few cards" in the style of his predecessor Arafat.
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Daniel on March 26, 2007, 10:51:43 PM
****You might think I'm crazy...but please consider my thoughts on this subject***

I've read that Osama Bin Laden has condemned Al Qaeda's actions against fellow Muslims in Iraq.

There is a Pakistani journalist (can't remember his name) that is Bin Laden's "go to" man when it comes to public relations. This journalist was recently interviewed on a Conservative Christian radio show and said that OBL now realizes that not all Westerners are evil. He says that he believes only the governments in the West are anti-Islam and that the Christian people are on his side.

I believe that Osama Bin Laden is getting ready to change his public stance against terrorism. I know this sounds crazy, but there is precedent. If OBL can remake himself as a peacemaker then he can become another Yasser Arafat. If OBL were to be recognized by the international community, then he could become the de-facto leader of the Muslim Nation.

Believe it or not, I believe that OBL will try to remake himself as a peacemaker after the next set of terror attacks takes place against Western targets.

We already know that half of America (Liberals) and most of Europe (Nazis) would be willing to take sides with OBL. The only thing missing is international recognition. OBL can get UN recognition if he "plays a few cards" in the style of his predecessor Arafat.

I don't think you're crazy but think your theory is crazy. OBL as a peacemaker will never happen. The only time these types of scenarious take place is on the show 24. But this wouldn't happen in reality, especially not with OBL.
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Din Rodef on March 26, 2007, 11:19:32 PM

I don't think you're crazy but think your theory is crazy. OBL as a peacemaker will never happen. The only time these types of scenarious take place is on the show 24. But this wouldn't happen in reality, especially not with OBL.

I hope you're right

we'll see  :)
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Trumpeldor on March 26, 2007, 11:26:22 PM
Anyone watch it Sunday night? 

A guy who was participating in terrorist recruitment and terrorist activity finally asked Al-Qaeda why he should continue murdering people?.  Instead of giving him a rational response like he hoped for, they instead ordered him to go to Iraq and cause chaos there.  He knew they weren't answering his question and instead were ordering him, so it was at that point that he quit working for the terrorist network.  Now he says he wants to try and convince young people in those countries that they are being brain washed and that they shouldn't join in on terrorism. 

I saw this. I have to admit that while I commend him for this, I am highly suspicious. I think he genuinely dislikes terrorism, but had his life threatened by Jihadis after putting these views forward. Fearing for his life, he went to British Intelligence and asked them to protect him. Since he has already been outted, he is no value to the Brits as a covert informer. Instead, he has been commanded to serve as a youth 'role model' if he wants protection.
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Scriabin on March 27, 2007, 10:17:19 AM
This guy is a 'smart' Arab.  He's lying. 

If they're willing to kill us, I think they're willing to lie to us.

OBL is dead, and who cares about him anyway?  He's one Arab out of a billion.
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Angry Panther on March 27, 2007, 12:31:29 PM
****You might think I'm crazy...but please consider my thoughts on this subject***

I've read that Osama Bin Laden has condemned Al Qaeda's actions against fellow Muslims in Iraq.

There is a Pakistani journalist (can't remember his name) that is Bin Laden's "go to" man when it comes to public relations. This journalist was recently interviewed on a Conservative Christian radio show and said that OBL now realizes that not all Westerners are evil. He says that he believes only the governments in the West are anti-Islam and that the Christian people are on his side.

I believe that Osama Bin Laden is getting ready to change his public stance against terrorism. I know this sounds crazy, but there is precedent. If OBL can remake himself as a peacemaker then he can become another Yasser Arafat. If OBL were to be recognized by the international community, then he could become the de-facto leader of the Muslim Nation.

Believe it or not, I believe that OBL will try to remake himself as a peacemaker after the next set of terror attacks takes place against Western targets.

We already know that half of America (Liberals) and most of Europe (Nazis) would be willing to take sides with OBL. The only thing missing is international recognition. OBL can get UN recognition if he "plays a few cards" in the style of his predecessor Arafat.

OBL as a peacemaker? Try convincing the family members of the victims of 9/11. OBL being a peacemaker is like Charles Manson being a peacemaker.
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Scriabin on March 27, 2007, 12:43:07 PM
Don't blame Dim Rodef. 

He's used to, "bangin blonde porn stars back at the million dollar pad."
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Din Rodef on March 27, 2007, 06:47:33 PM
Don't blame Dim Rodef. 

He's used to, "bangin blonde porn stars back at the million dollar pad."

haha

I like to have a little fun around here
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Scriabin on March 27, 2007, 06:50:47 PM
Keep it to yourself Mr. Perfect.
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Din Rodef on March 27, 2007, 07:13:06 PM
Don't blame Dim Rodef. 

In the 1980s, Kahane warned that a future Israeli government would make peace with Arafat. At the time, people thought that the rabbi was crazy. They said that Arafat was a terrorist and no Jew would ever make peace with him.

Do I need to give a history lesson on what occured at Oslo? Who is considered crazy now....Kahane....or the people that laughed at Kahane?
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: RationalThought110 on March 28, 2007, 06:09:47 AM
This guy is a 'smart' Arab.  He's lying. 

If they're willing to kill us, I think they're willing to lie to us.

OBL is dead, and who cares about him anyway?  He's one Arab out of a billion.


How do you know he's no longer alive?
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: RationalThought110 on March 28, 2007, 06:14:31 AM
Don't blame Dim Rodef. 

In the 1980s, Kahane warned that a future Israeli government would make peace with Arafat. At the time, people thought that the rabbi was crazy. They said that Arafat was a terrorist and no Jew would ever make peace with him.

Do I need to give a history lesson on what occured at Oslo? Who is considered crazy now....Kahane....or the people that laughed at Kahane?



Isn't crazy Olmert now trying to do the same thing with Abbas and the "Palestinian unified government"?
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Din Rodef on March 28, 2007, 06:21:55 AM
RationalThought110

Excellent points
Title: Re: 60 Minutes
Post by: Scriabin on March 28, 2007, 10:28:46 AM
This guy is a 'smart' Arab.  He's lying. 

If they're willing to kill us, I think they're willing to lie to us.

OBL is dead, and who cares about him anyway?  He's one Arab out of a billion.

How do you know he's no longer alive?

It is my feeling that he is dead. 

We have seen no video of him for several years. 

I believe that if he were alive, he would do anything to prove that the infidels haven't gotten to him.