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Title: Bill In Congress Would Prohibit Gun Sales To Anyone Government Decides.....
Post by: MasterWolf1 on May 11, 2009, 04:29:00 PM
www.kxmc.com/News/Nation/373743.asp
 
Bill In Congress Would Prohibit Gun Sales To Anyone Government Decides Is A “Terrorist”
And the bill was introduced by a Republican, no less.

A new gun law being considered in Congress, if aligned with Department of Homeland Security memos labeling everyday Americans as potential “threats,” could potentially deny firearms to pro-lifers, gun-rights advocates, tax protesters, animal rights activists, and a host of others – any already on the expansive DHS watch list for potential “extremism.”

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., has sponsored H.R. 2159, the Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2009, which permits the attorney general to deny transfer of a firearm to any “known or suspected dangerous terrorist.” The bill requires only that the potential firearm transferee is “appropriately suspected” of preparing for a terrorist act and that the attorney general “has a reasonable belief” that the gun might be used in connection with terrorism.

Gun rights advocates, however, object to the bill’s language, arguing that it enables the federal government to suspend a person’s Second Amendment rights without any trial or legal proof and only upon suspicion of being “dangerous.”

I don’t think anyone really has a problem with keeping weapons out of the hands of terrorists. The problems arise when it comes to who gets to define who is and is not a “terrorist.” And what standards are used. Also, since when can our rights be denied us because we might commit a crime?

According to the Department of Homeland Security attending a tea party, being a federalist, having an NRA sticker on your car or being pro-life indicates that you may be a terrorist. Or may, at least, have inclinations toward extremism and violence.

Now, I doubt that even if this law passed that we’d see a crackdown on gun-owning pro-life activists. But the problem here is that this law provides such a vague definition of who may and may exercise their 2nd amendment rights that the door is left wide open to no small amount of abuse.

Vaguely-written laws like this are extremely problematic because they put the decision as to whether or not we’ve committed a crime entirely as the discretion of cops and prosecutors. And if that’s the case, the only thing keeping us from being arrested and/or prosecuted are the whims of our law enforcement agents.



Title: Re: Bill In Congress Would Prohibit Gun Sales To Anyone Government Decides.....
Post by: arksis on May 12, 2009, 12:06:55 AM
This really sickens me and we are truly on our way to becoming a socialist country. They will take my gun from me AFTER I shoot them first! From my cold dead hands.
Title: Re: Bill In Congress Would Prohibit Gun Sales To Anyone Government Decides.....
Post by: dominicanjtfer on May 12, 2009, 08:46:46 AM
Where are the liberals screaming their heads off, Oh! Never mind... >:(
Title: Re: Bill In Congress Would Prohibit Gun Sales To Anyone Government Decides.....
Post by: drlmg on May 12, 2009, 11:05:37 AM
Liberals have shown us who they think is a threat to the "regime". Basically anyone that takes issue with their lame policies. The left sees conservatives as more of a threat to the country as Muslims. Does that mean they would let Muslims buy firearms while denying conservatives the right to do so (yes, it is a right)?
Title: Re: Bill In Congress Would Prohibit Gun Sales To Anyone Government Decides.....
Post by: Yonah on May 12, 2009, 11:34:07 AM
At least the politicians will be able to say that the bill only prevents actual and suspected enemies of the state from buying weapons - "your hunting shotgun is safe" (as long as you're not on their list of actual and suspected enemies of the state). I think the Germans had something similar a few years back.
Title: Re: Bill In Congress Would Prohibit Gun Sales To Anyone Government Decides.....
Post by: briann on May 12, 2009, 11:35:57 AM
I wonder if EVIL spector would let this disgustingly evil bill pass.