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General Category => Introduce Yourself => Topic started by: hussain on May 24, 2009, 08:03:07 AM
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cristian
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because Muhammad was a terrorist
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What are you doing on this forum if you can be with 72 virgins now?
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what are you on about??
Clearly anyone who claims to be a Christian then goes and kills millions of people because of some twisted hate is clearly a NUTTER..
Question for Muslims, how many times is the word love mentioned in the Qu'ran?
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If Hitler was a Christian, Lady Bich Ray is a Muslim: (http://www.netzeitung.de/bilder/images/30490_1208429857340477.jpg)
My gosh, I like this idea. ;D :laugh:
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Lol a poll from a Muslim. Useless :laugh:
What are you doing on this forum if you can be with 72 virgins now?
Confirm that Islam is a religion of peaceiss!!
what are you on about??
Clearly anyone who claims to be a Christian then goes and kills millions of people because of some twisted hate is clearly a NUTTER..
Question for Muslims, how many times is the word love mentioned in the Qu'ran?
I don't think they know the word "love". It's a non Islamic word. Their words for love are suicide bombing, 9/11, terror, terrorist, pedophile mohammed, death, beheading, slaughter, blood, nazism, ...
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I don't think they know the word "love". It's a non Islamic word. Their words for love are suicide bombing, 9/11, terror, terrorist, pedophile mohammed, death, beheading, slaughter, blood, nazism, ...
The sad, sad thing is as well they re-enforce that perception EVERYDAY, EVERYWHERE around the World :'( ..
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There is a simple difference:
A Jew cannot shout "Abraham" or "Moses" or "G*d" is bigger when he kills - simply because of the Mosaic commandment "Thou shalt not kill".
A Christian may not scream "Jesus is bigger" while killing, simply because the same commandment goes for Christians and Jesus never killed, beheaded or cut off any parts of a human body.
Now there is Mohammed: He killed, he killed and saw is as a commandment of the Koran, Allah sent him out to proselytize and kill those who did not believe "in Allah and the "prophets" visions". And any Muslim MUST live his life like Mohammed did - thus making Muslims the same cruel robbers, thieves, rapers, child-abusers and killers as Mohammed! And if any Muslim ever shouts "Allahu Akbar", then yes it is justified by their religion and simply BECAUSE of their religion.
Do you thin Hitler killed Jews for being so Christian? I don't think so - he was an atheist later on!
Do you think Americans made war in Vietnam because of religion? There has never been any problem in the Buddhist-Christian relations.
Nor would a Hindu kill for the religion itself - a Hindu may kill as a defense and when they kill Muslims it is because the Muslims provoked them heavily!
So do not confuse people killed during a war with filthy killings for nothing (because Islam IS NOTHING)!!! Hitler may be a good example of comparing maniac killings and filthy bestial character with those of Islam but let's not forget that he had an enormous sympathy for Muslims. He met with the Mufti of Jerusalem and he never touched the big mosque of Berlin in all these years! Just because the already existing group of Muslims in Berlin were loyal to Hitler! Just to see how close Muslims and Nazis have always been! >:(
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Good examble Hyades
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This is a prime example of the whacked out beliefs that some people have. I really hope not all people who call themselves Muslim believe this way, and who puts out a poll with choices like this. It's really scary to think about how many people out there that are truly misguided, brainwashed, lost souls.
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Dude you need to learn how to spell!!!!
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isnt islam now being taken over by freemasons?
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I don't think they have freemasons in many Islamic countries churches ans synagogues aren't allowed so surely masons are not allowed
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This is pretty funny. If you're going to try to defend the actions of your religion and argue against this forum's position, I would think you'd do some research and bring some reasonable examples to back up your claims. The examples given here are terrible and quite frankly hilarious. Hitler? The Atomic Bomb? George W. Bush? WTF! Haha. But I don't know, you sound like a 12 year old so I can't balme you if that's the case. Then again, you might be older but simply can't speak or write in English. Who knows. The vast majority of terrorism (look up the definition of terrorism and terrorists in the dictionary) in the world today is commited by Muslims. The most cruel and barbaric acts done in the world today are commited by Muslims, not Jews and Christians. There's a reason why a lot of people are concerned about Islam and critical of it. And It's not because it's a religion of peace.
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Muslims terrorists?! Nooooooooooooooooooooo, no way, this is why they don't respect people of the same race (Arabs, Turks etc.) only because of their "disbelief":
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id4/christian_arabs.htm
Maybe not all Muslims ARE terrorists, but but at least 90% have the tendency to be terrorists and would become terrorists if they would feel "threatened" in their little dissociated minds!
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Hitler was NOT a christian, he actually said that christianity should die a natural death.
But the roman catholic church did back him up.
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r u retard?this is the site for factual information and not for hearsay and own opinion... :P
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Well who might not resort to self defense if threatened for his life or for the lives of his dear ones ??? Come on you guys are doing the same in Israel from those you feel threatened of. This is totally a justified action by any animal let alone Human beings. I agree to what you call disorientated from what we have actully been taught or there in Quran and muslims today try to live their lives like those did in the time of Muhammad PBUH, even I tried but figured it out that it always led to a situation 1400 years earlier. The problem lies in our societies where we have neglected the word of Allah SBWT and blindly started trusting the holly men, and again so did you guys.
The point is that we are human beings and dont differ much in attributes of our characters. Shedding blood is not pleasurable for any human being irrespective of religion, cast tribe or cult. This hatred has got to stop before it unstables the very land beneath our feet. I see animals like myself in jews, christians, budhist, hindus, sikhs and atheists. Trying to survive and ensure the survival of their offsprings. Lets make life better for this scared creature by making room for each other.
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The problem lies in our societies where we have neglected the word of Allah SBWT and blindly started trusting the holly men, and again so did you guys.
Unfortunately this has nothing to do with reality. Our holy men never preach against muslims, while yours DO. Most Jews who hate muslims do so because they are attacked on the streets (like I was many times) or get their houses burned down. The homes of many Jews are burned down in the Western part of the Netherlands where most muslims live, I knew people personally whose house was burned down and it was a miracle that they weren't sleeping in their houses and died. In spite of these most Jews and their Rabbis are foolish enough to protect the rights of muslims. So do not try to pretend that we are as guilty as you are. The fact that imams preach hate doesn't mean that Rabbis do the same too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsvK5Gko0eM&feature=player_embedded
Such boys roam the streets of the Netherlands.
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You have also mentioned that you were taught to not trust Jews. You just admitted that you were taught anti-semitic discrimination since your childhood. It isn't a separated case, because one of my childhood friends who was a muslim immigrant from Afghanistan was also thought such things. In fact he told me that his relatives always told him to hate Jews.
Meanwhile Jews just do not care about muslims, just live their lives and not preach hatred against them. I have never had any problems with muslims since I was attacked and saw what they do to other people.
In Hungary muslims are a minority and there are far more Jews. Muslims can live in peace there.
In the Netherlands muslims outnumber Jews greatly, and Jews are hunted down on the streets by them.
Can you explain that? Leave this talk that "you are equally guilty" because it isn't true.
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Well Hyperion! I may not disagree to what you have said mostly. The feeling of self righteousness is very strong. Masses are first shown a direction then they are told that whatever they are thinking is justified religiously and morally. Never have been they told to consider things on the basics of logic or rationale. What I might be saying would seem true to you for what I or muslim are in this state but please for once try to justify yourself on these grounds. I am not at all trying to blame or accuse you, I am no one to do that. Its between you and God. I know that you people have been mistreated over the time. There must be something wrong so harm find its way to you. There are much smaller and weaker minorities in the world and they are not bothered as you guys.
In history of Islam there are a number of times when jewish tried harming islam and our prophet and followers but I am not one of them to avenge that from you or anyone. I am not born at that time. We are taught history and somehow these sentiments develop. But for the last 2 decades people around me are more aware. They know that education is a good tool for earning living as well as mind control by a small group of people manipulating the thoughts of masses.
All said when I try to get myself neutral and try to find out the facts myself I see Jewish people doing what you are doing here. I know that you guys are angry and you have all the right to be, but my elders are taught to be angry with you willing or unwillingly. Now with all this hatred at both sides what are we achieving ? If something positive is coming out of it then we can continue to do this. I dont care what my neighbor is doing as long as I am not disturbed with that. Most of the time I ignore it even coz he is my neighbor.
If I come here and share stories of all the bad things that my neighbor has been doing repeatedly and afew other neighbors start listening to me and quoting their experiences with that man, surly there would come a time when each one of us would want to hurt him.
I dont care what my elders thought or did, but i do care about what I would be doing in this time given to me here. I would surly try to minimize these differences. You believe your own philosophy and i would believe my own and there are enough space on this planet and the system of Allah SBWT to hold many such more.
What is right is right and whats wrong is wrong and that comes as the basic human instinct. Its hard coded and no one could change that but people have devised ways to hide that and brainwash people. Deep down we are all the same. The smell of air would be as refreshing to you as it would be to me but if one starts to disagree and likes better the smell of some fragrance in the air, should we resort to hating that person just coz he dosent think like me.
What I meant in the posts above is that "it always takes 2 to tango" sorry i couldnt come up with some other proverb as english is not my mother tongue. I saw some of you making fun of the poor guy who tried to express his feelings or to show his sympathy in whatever manner he could. You guys are no different than islamist radicals who have always gone after the words and not the thought. You didnt bother to notice the sentiments behind his words. Its shameful, we all have to change. Killing to me is not simply taking life of a person. You can kill a person by taking his identity or killing his thoughts. The poor injured guy comes here and you guys tried to finish him off. Well how would he react!! think logically. Would he ever again in his life try to put forward a hand of friendship towards you people. We mock you and you mock us by putting usama's pict on pig or different images or words I see here. In the part of the world I live in we dont even like usama. My servant who is illiterate would be the first person to hand him over to authorities if he ever sees him. It does not worries me at all to see the image but it shows the same hatred I am talking about for a whole majority of muslims that we cannot just kill but have to be made aware of the basic realities. I see you guys doing your part.
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"What I meant in the posts above is that "it always takes 2 to tango""
Two to tango? What do you mean? They attack civilians, we attack back their military and we are as bad as them? NO Jews hurl firebombs at muslim houses both in Hungary and in the Netherlands. The man whose house was burned down actually PROTECTED the rights of muslims in spite of these attacks. Think logically and not in a biased way. The majority of Jews are against ANY discrimination, while I had many muslim friends all of whom agree with the actions against Israeli and American civilians. Our far right only wants to expel muslims and not annihilate them like Hamas, Al-Quaeda and the rest want to annihilate Jews. So do not distort the facts please.
And what about the muslims' hate of the Zionist state? I have never heard about a muslim acknowledging our right to existence.
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What I saw happening in Lebanon by Israel Army was some what different from what you are saying here. You want me to be logical here ! Why would attack and burn the house of person who protect my rights!! Do I like living with less rights? Obviously not.
I am not trying to distort any facts here I am trying to get facts. You say "I have never heard about a muslim acknowledging our right to existence." Pakistan has accepted Israel's existence and it comprises of about 160 million muslims. Now should i say that you are trying to distort the facts here! No i wont say that, we are very far from the facts of our co-existence. Just trying to make an effort if not for many than for myself and my children to reduce these differences.
In Quran there is a whole chapter named Buni Israel. If my Allah SBWT identifies you as a nation who am I to take this right away from you.
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I'm talking about regular muslims there. Do regular muslims support the Zionist state or not? In my experience not. What a government does is usually not in tune with its people want. Those are strategic movements. Can you show us a muslim grassroots organization that stands up for the right of Israel and Jews? That would be convincing.
"You want me to be logical here ! Why would attack and burn the house of person who protect my rights!! Do I like living with less rights? Obviously not. "
You would do it because you are anti-semitic and discriminate and you have prejudices. Yes muslims usually discriminate Jews. When I was not attacked for my Star of David I was treated like sh*t or an animal.
"What I saw happening in Lebanon by Israel Army was some what different from what you are saying here."
Well, atrocities happen in war, but IDF does not purposefully attack civilians even if those civilians elected Hamas to kill Israeli civilians. Sometimes the boys get mad because of that and there are civilian casualties on your side too. I oppose these things. Because Torah teaches us that if you treat your fellow humans well and fulfill your obligation to G-d, you get your reward, regardless of your religion race etc. In fact Judaism is the only religion of the three Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) that recognizes believers and non-believers as equals and does not condemn people of other faith. It is a fact. Hamas, Fatah, Al Quade deliberately attack civilians. While IDF not.
And yes major Jewish organizations like the European Jewish Organization of Students and Anti-Defamation League actually campaigns FOR the Rigths of European muslims even if many of us get attacked.
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Pakistan has accepted Israel's existence and it comprises of about 160 million muslims.
Pakistan has no embassy in Israel, and no Pakistani leader ever said that the State of Israel has the right to exist.
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We are a newly formed religion and a newly from state (Pakistan). We havent been able to set aside our own differences forming the basis of sects and you think we would be able to do something for you yet, its frankly not possible yet. Alot needs to be done before that could actually happen. Three major formations of islamic philosophy as today are Sulfis, Shiya and Sunnis. Sulfis are hard liners you may call alquaeda as there sub groups coz it follows almost the same thought. Shiyya as you may know are still confused of their position and who killed the decedents of the profit and his progeny. Leving behind sunnis who were never a part of islamis society or khilafat. They were ruled by Mugal kings of india. With the end to the kingdom these people were lost and some salfis and shiya influenced groups of these people here with their ideology rest remained an intermediary sect. These people for 70 % population of muslim population of subcontinent (india & pakistan). I am one of them.
We have realized what state or govt has been doing. Our hatred is also a policy of our state be it against india and jews. But many others like me have started to think of things differently after making our mind to understand islam itself other than listening to our Imam, so called scholars , Teachers or elders who so ever push us against our nature. You guys think we enjoy having such a huge army that we spent 78 % of our country's earning for their development. Its against our wills and only this hatred can justify its existence and nothing else.
Musharraf was one of the son of this nation, highly trained army personnel and one of us who couldnt bear anymore what politicians were doing he took control, got the public mandate in year 2001 elections and showed his attentions of recognizing Israel. Internal and foriegn pressure didnt allow him to. We were threatened of our own existence if we proceeded. For me that was the decision of the public of Pakistan. Those who are aware and know what is actually happening. People here are always provoked by Israels policy of whatever they want to do with Aqsa Mosque. Its of high religious importance to us. Then people were told all sorts of stories of Jews trying to destroy Al Aqsa Mosque and almost everyone here was once again infuriated with jewish.
This is briefly my side of the story. We are told that rich jews of America wants to disintegrate you to smaller states take away the only defense and considered to be the source of our existence the nuclear bomb, who wont be threatened ?
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Another thing that I want to add and I have seen couple of times is about Hindus. Some of you think that we provoke them and they are democratic nation. Let me state two facts here which might clear afew confusions.
1. We eat beef, I think you guys too. Hindu people worship cows. Its not of their particular to see us make steaks and Bar B Q out of their God. Its naturally provoking and a major reason for partition of the sub continent. Before that under British(300 years) and Muslim(870 years) rule everything was ok but suddenly they remembered its their God we are eating and all the commotion started.
2. The democracy of 1 Billion souls of the planet harboring people of about 26 different believes a few days earlier refused Pakistani cricket players participation in IPL ( Indian Premier League) after they had been invited there for the nominations of teams. They cant keep discrimination out of sports makes one wonder about the conditions of all the minorities living in India.
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We are a newly formed religion and a newly from state (Pakistan). We havent been able to set aside our own differences forming the basis of sects and you think we would be able to do something for you yet, its frankly not possible yet. Alot needs to be done before that could actually happen. Three major formations of islamic philosophy as today are Sulfis, Shiya and Sunnis. Sulfis are hard liners you may call alquaeda as there sub groups coz it follows almost the same thought. Shiyya as you may know are still confused of their position and who killed the decedents of the profit and his progeny. Leving behind sunnis who were never a part of islamis society or khilafat. They were ruled by Mugal kings of india. With the end to the kingdom these people were lost and some salfis and shiya influenced groups of these people here with their ideology rest remained an intermediary sect. These people for 70 % population of muslim population of subcontinent (india & pakistan). I am one of them.
We have realized what state or govt has been doing. Our hatred is also a policy of our state be it against india and jews. But many others like me have started to think of things differently after making our mind to understand islam itself other than listening to our Imam, so called scholars , Teachers or elders who so ever push us against our nature. You guys think we enjoy having such a huge army that we spent 78 % of our country's earning for their development. Its against our wills and only this hatred can justify its existence and nothing else.
Musharraf was one of the son of this nation, highly trained army personnel and one of us who couldnt bear anymore what politicians were doing he took control, got the public mandate in year 2001 elections and showed his attentions of recognizing Israel. Internal and foriegn pressure didnt allow him to. We were threatened of our own existence if we proceeded. For me that was the decision of the public of Pakistan. Those who are aware and know what is actually happening. People here are always provoked by Israels policy of whatever they want to do with Aqsa Mosque. Its of high religious importance to us. Then people were told all sorts of stories of Jews trying to destroy Al Aqsa Mosque and almost everyone here was once again infuriated with jewish.
This is briefly my side of the story. We are told that rich jews of America wants to disintegrate you to smaller states take away the only defense and considered to be the source of our existence the nuclear bomb, who wont be threatened ?
All this only says that there are some reasonable people in Pakistan who understand that lies about Jews and Hindus are only a means to distract attention from the corruption of the ruling class. But it is only their personal opinion and will remain so until Pakistan officially recognizes Israel as the state of the Jewish people. In the meantime, Pakistan is an enemy state.
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Another thing that I want to add and I have seen couple of times is about Hindus. Some of you think that we provoke them and they are democratic nation. Let me state two facts here which might clear afew confusions.
1. We eat beef, I think you guys too. Hindu people worship cows. Its not of their particular to see us make steaks and Bar B Q out of their G-d. Its naturally provoking and a major reason for partition of the sub continent. Before that under British(300 years) and Muslim(870 years) rule everything was ok but suddenly they remembered its their G-d we are eating and all the commotion started.
Unlike Muslims, Jews do not interfere into the internal affairs of the other peoples. Hindus may believe in what they will, it is not our (and your) business.
2. The democracy of 1 Billion souls of the planet harboring people of about 26 different believes a few days earlier refused Pakistani cricket players participation in IPL ( Indian Premier League) after they had been invited there for the nominations of teams. They cant keep discrimination out of sports makes one wonder about the conditions of all the minorities living in India.
Even if it is true (and I suspect it is not, because you already lied about Pakistani "acceptance of Israel"), it is nothing compared to atrocious violations of human rights in Muslim countries.
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Well Spectator, its your opinion and I wont advocate the stance of Pakistan govt or people, consider it whatever you like. I would want you to think of things that could enlighten the masses who consider you as enemy and why. One way is the approach you have already taken and other ways are for you to discover.
My motive is to find my own standing in this world and for me any of that place which in anyway conflicts with the thoughts and rights of others of no matter whatever origin is wrong and I would be questioned by Allah SBWT for that. Being a muslim and living in the conditions that I have mentioned, I havent found any reason to consider you my enemy.
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:) Well try eating beef infront of a hindu and you would know if its internal or external. We used to live together with Hindus so slaughtering a cow or eating beef is a huge matter in india. It tends to provoke hindus naturally.
For the second I have already cleared my understanding.
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Yes, spectator he lied.
Pakistan does not accept Israel.
http://www.paktribune.com/speakout/index.php?id=12&PHPSESSID=f7e7c0923c34b45ed540bde71ca2bdbd
Taqqiya.
They want to dismember our country at best with their "two-state" solution.
I am so naive. Sorry for that.
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Taqiya is a concept of a particular sect in Islam and I do not follow any sect. Even they think they are allowed to do it when their life is in jeopardy. I cleared my point of you to you guys. I was of the opinion that two state solution was agreeable to you guys but Palestinian do not agree to that. I dont know much more than I have been told or heard from the media about it. Other than that I told you the local sentiments and that of mine.
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Another thing that I want to add and I have seen couple of times is about Hindus. Some of you think that we provoke them and they are democratic nation. Let me state two facts here which might clear afew confusions.
1. We eat beef, I think you guys too. Hindu people worship cows. Its not of their particular to see us make steaks and Bar B Q out of their G-d. Its naturally provoking and a major reason for partition of the sub continent. Before that under British(300 years) and Muslim(870 years) rule everything was ok but suddenly they remembered its their G-d we are eating and all the commotion started.
2. The democracy of 1 Billion souls of the planet harboring people of about 26 different believes a few days earlier refused Pakistani cricket players participation in IPL ( Indian Premier League) after they had been invited there for the nominations of teams. They cant keep discrimination out of sports makes one wonder about the conditions of all the minorities living in India.
what a load of crap. You think the partition happened over a Holyness of Cow, Cause Hindus wanted to protect it and Muslims wanted to eat it? Seriously, How old are you?
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Another thing that I want to add and I have seen couple of times is about Hindus. Some of you think that we provoke them and they are democratic nation. Let me state two facts here which might clear afew confusions.
1. We eat beef, I think you guys too. Hindu people worship cows. Its not of their particular to see us make steaks and Bar B Q out of their G-d. Its naturally provoking and a major reason for partition of the sub continent. Before that under British(300 years) and Muslim(870 years) rule everything was ok but suddenly they remembered its their G-d we are eating and all the commotion started.
2. The democracy of 1 Billion souls of the planet harboring people of about 26 different believes a few days earlier refused Pakistani cricket players participation in IPL ( Indian Premier League) after they had been invited there for the nominations of teams. They cant keep discrimination out of sports makes one wonder about the conditions of all the minorities living in India.
what a load of crap. You think the partition happened over a Holyness of Cow, Cause Hindus wanted to protect it and Muslims wanted to eat it? Seriously, How old are you?
I think he is quite mature. Here you can get it out of the first hand what Muslims in Pak believe.
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:) Well try eating beef infront of a hindu and you would know if its internal or external. We used to live together with Hindus so slaughtering a cow or eating beef is a huge matter in india. It tends to provoke hindus naturally.
For the second I have already cleared my understanding.
I'm sure Jews will not consume Beef in front of a Hindu in India, out of respect towards Hindu sentiments. And for your information, even Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists in India do not consume beef in India. Also many Indian Jews like the famous General Jacob have been part of Hindu Nationalist organisations, so your logic goes to the toilet.
Partition occured due to the fact the Muslims wanted to carve out a seperate Islamic state out of India, cause they neither wanted to be part of a Independent Hindu Nation or a Independent Secular Nation while the British were about to leave. If Cow/beef was the reason of partition, then millions of Muslims wouldnt have stayed back in India.
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2. The democracy of 1 Billion souls of the planet harboring people of about 26 different believes a few days earlier refused Pakistani cricket players participation in IPL ( Indian Premier League) after they had been invited there for the nominations of teams. They cant keep discrimination out of sports makes one wonder about the conditions of all the minorities living in India.
IPL is a private cricket sports body contolled by Multinational Corporations like the EPL in UK. Why does it bother Pakistan so much that India did not pick any of their players? Is that the only thing Pakistan takes pride at? Militancy and Cricket? Why are you making a sport as such a prestiege issue?
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:::D :laugh:
If Hitler was a Christian, Lady Bich Ray is a Muslim: (http://www.netzeitung.de/bilder/images/30490_1208429857340477.jpg)
My gosh, I like this idea. ;D :laugh:
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Chugtai: I surely hope you are not here in an attempt to change people's mind's here about Islam and the evils of it.
Tell me, what does the Quaran say about how you treat your women?
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Taqiya is a concept of a particular sect in Islam and I do not follow any sect. Even they think they are allowed to do it when their life is in jeopardy. I cleared my point of you to you guys. I was of the opinion that two state solution was agreeable to you guys but Palestinian do not agree to that. I dont know much more than I have been told or heard from the media about it. Other than that I told you the local sentiments and that of mine.
All Muslims practice Taqqiya.
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Two state solution? Forget it. Israel WON'T BE dismembered even if "palestinians" agreed. Yes, yes I'm an extremist for not allowing to kill my country. We don't care what the world thinks. Israel will remain intact.
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Mufty of Jerusalem was joined Hitler instantly when they started WW2 and Hitler had support of all muslims... By the way vatikan and croats also did that... So that means that muslims are just puppets...
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@ Hindu Zionist : I said what i wanted to say. Sports or other small gesture are enough to change the thought of millions in my country. We respect those who respect our feelings and that comes naturally. What has happened cannot be undone. I am not capable of changing that i dont know about you, but what is going to happen I have some authority given by my God over it. I can either try to justify the actions of others here which i dont even know the conditions or circumstances they made those decisions out of or I can work here to know the reality of the situation and tell it to as many as I can. Frankly my goals are achievable and whatever yours might be arnt. Your statements are simply provoking for me and I try my best to remain calm while replying to you. But deep down I know you are wasting my time and efforts but only the hope that I might make you think on more positive lines compel me to reply.
@ Hanna: Thank you and Quran says that Allah has created men and women equal but men has been blessed with only 1 grade above over her as men earn and spend. Women to men ratio out of the wealth of their father is 1:2 respectively and she gets 8th part of the wealth of her husband. Rights are equal.
@ AmericanKahanist: :D I am muslim and let me assure you 70 % of muslim population despise this concept of Tqiya its only the shite sect of muslim who follow it.
@Proudtobsurb: Well the way I see it all those who have lost their true identity are puppets in the hand of less than 1% of the worlds population. Soldiers do not know what they are fighting for they are only told who they are fighting for. Its really hard to ask a man to give up his life for some worldly cause but its peanuts to tell a puppet to do the same.
@Hyperion: Well I am here to know what you guys think should be the solution and figure out a way to reduce hatred among people.
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@ Hindu Zionist : I said what i wanted to say. Sports or other small gesture are enough to change the thought of millions in my country. We respect those who respect our feelings and that comes naturally. What has happened cannot be undone. I am not capable of changing that i dont know about you, but what is going to happen I have some authority given by my G-d over it. I can either try to justify the actions of others here which i dont even know the conditions or circumstances they made those decisions out of or I can work here to know the reality of the situation and tell it to as many as I can. Frankly my goals are achievable and whatever yours might be arnt. Your statements are simply provoking for me and I try my best to remain calm while replying to you. But deep down I know you are wasting my time and efforts but only the hope that I might make you think on more positive lines compel me to reply.
you are worth discussing with only when you come with factual accounts rather than fiction, claiming that partition occured over Cow/beef really makes you look intelligent. ;D
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It not a fact that you consider cow a holy god and we slaughter it as religious obligation in observing our holy ritual of eid ! I know there are other assumed facts to this matter better are far beyond our understanding due to lack of evidence. May be it was to provide British a safe exit out the sub continent. I quote more than 2 dozen facts that I have studied in the text books but this is the most logical to me. I wont tolerate my neighbor writing name of my God on an animal and slaughter it let alone having him slaughter the god itself. For me the best solution would be to move to a place where people of my ideology live or build a wall cant see that. It was a very peaceful solution to many of such conflicts. We also took the jahadi mullahs away from you :) otherwise today it would have been india as hated as pakistan today.
Religion might not be of much significance to you in daily life but for us it is.
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It not a fact that you consider cow a holy G-d and we slaughter it as religious obligation in observing our holy ritual of eid ! I know there are other assumed facts to this matter better are far beyond our understanding due to lack of evidence. May be it was to provide British a safe exit out the sub continent. I quote more than 2 dozen facts that I have studied in the text books but this is the most logical to me. I wont tolerate my neighbor writing name of my G-d on an animal and slaughter it let alone having him slaughter the G-d itself. For me the best solution would be to move to a place where people of my ideology live or build a wall cant see that. It was a very peaceful solution to many of such conflicts. We also took the jahadi mullahs away from you :) otherwise today it would have been india as hated as pakistan today.
Religion might not be of much significance to you in daily life but for us it is.
pls tell me where in Quran has it been mentioned that a Cow only needs to be salughtered during Eid? The obligation can also be done using a lamb or goat instead. We consider Cow as our mother, divine. Buddhist and Jains too consider it holy. It is none of your business. It is our country and a secular demoracy means, people are supposed to respect each others religious sentiments, If Muslims want to be insensitive towards Hindus, then its better you leave our lands, rather than grab our lands and demand for seperate country. and its not as if Muslims cannot live without slaughtering cow. Neither is it compulsory. yet Muslims do not, inorder to hurt the Hindu faith.
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Hindu Zionist: If you are Indian you might know the price of a Lamb and that of a cow here. In pakistan we can buy a cow for a little more than the price of a lamb, and for cows 7 people can contribute their share in the price and lamb is for that individual only who is paying for it.
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it is an economic issue for you to prefer cow over lamb, it is not a religious compulsion. Muslims are not going to die if they eat less of meat.
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Hitler was not a Christian. The author obviously does not know history. The Nazi Party (National Socialists) despised religion. They were Environmentalists. They believed in glorifying nature, and reserved state parks to preserve the forests. Hitler actually believed that Religion was only suited for superstitious minds.
I feel sorry for the author on many levels. His claim is more pathetic than those who claim that Nazism was on the Right of the Political Spectrum.
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stop calling hitler a christian, he never was a believer in christ, he had a nazi ideology.