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If Israel had the capability of attacking Iran's nuclear factories they would have done it long ago. There's no reason for them to have waited this long. Israel is bluffing about not tolerating Iran with nuclear weapons. The United States won't attack Iran either because they can't handle a third war with Iran. Iran will eventually get nuclear weapons.
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we'll have to see.
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I don't think that the leaders of Israel are fine with Iran having nukes. It's just that the leaders of Israel are too cowardly and too afraid of Obama to attack Iran.
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If Israel had the capability of attacking Iran's nuclear factories they would have done it long ago. There's no reason for them to have waited this long. Israel is bluffing about not tolerating Iran with nuclear weapons. The United States won't attack Iran either because they can't handle a third war with Iran. Iran will eventually get nuclear weapons.
Yeah sure. Israel, which beat the entire Arab world in only 6 days, cannot destroy Iran's nuclear program? Give me a break. If Israel wants to destroy the Iranian nuclear program, they can do it. The sole reason Israel does not do it is because of the United States - Washington is constantly pressuring the Israelis not to attack. The Israelis are insane for giving in to this American pressure, and the Americans are insane for applying the pressure, but that is the only reason why the Israeli air force does not act immediately.
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Yeah sure. Israel, which beat the entire Arab world in only 6 days, cannot destroy Iran's nuclear program? Give me a break. If Israel wants to destroy the Iranian nuclear program, they can do it. The sole reason Israel does not do it is because of the United States - Washington is constantly pressuring the Israelis not to attack. The Israelis are insane for giving in to this American pressure, and the Americans are insane for applying the pressure, but that is the only reason why the Israeli air force does not act immediately.
Wrong. Israel would defy America if they were capable of pulling it off. They didn't even ask for America's permission when they attacked Osirak because they had the ability to do it. Iran is stronger than Iraq and has learned from Iraq's mistakes. Their factories are under ground, dispersed, and Iran is farther from Israel than Iraq is.
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Yeah sure. Israel, which beat the entire Arab world in only 6 days, cannot destroy Iran's nuclear program? Give me a break. If Israel wants to destroy the Iranian nuclear program, they can do it. The sole reason Israel does not do it is because of the United States - Washington is constantly pressuring the Israelis not to attack. The Israelis are insane for giving in to this American pressure, and the Americans are insane for applying the pressure, but that is the only reason why the Israeli air force does not act immediately.
Wrong. Israel would defy America if they were capable of pulling it off. They didn't even ask for America's permission when they attacked Osirak because they had the ability to do it. Iran is stronger than Iraq and has learned from Iraq's mistakes. Their factories are under ground, dispersed, and Iran is farther than Israel.
You know nothing about Israel. Iran is a joke militarily. They fought for 8 years in the Iran-Iraq war and neither side could advance because both sides in the war were typical Muslim cowards. The only thing Muslims know how to do is commit terrorist acts against unarmed civilians and then hide behind their own women and children whom they turn into human shields. But Muslims are incapable of fighting like men on a real battlefield. On a real battlefield, even when they outnumbered the Jews 100 to 1, they lost disastrously in only 6 days.
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There is little doubt that Israel could take out Irans nuclear production facilities... The problem is that America has threatened to cut off relations with Israel if it carries through on this plan.
It is foolish to underestimate Israels military power. They virtually wiped out six arab armies in 6 days... They can surely wipe out the Iranian nuclear capacity.
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There is little doubt that Israel could take out Irans nuclear production facilities... The problem is that America has threatened to cut off relations with Israel if it carries through on this plan.
It is foolish to underestimate Israels military power. They virtually wiped out six arab armies in 6 days... They can surely wipe out the Iranian nuclear capacity.
There is one thing to keep in mind though: the possibility that Israel will attack, but do a halfhearted job because it wants to spare Iranian "civilians".
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You know nothing about Israel. Iran is a joke militarily. They fought for 8 years in the Iran-Iraq war and neither side could advance because both sides in the war were typical Muslim cowards. The only thing Muslims know how to do is commit terrorist acts against unarmed civilians and then hide behind their own women and children whom they turn into human shields. But Muslims are incapable of fighting like men on a real battlefield. On a real battlefield, even when they outnumbered the Jews 100 to 1, they lost disastrously in only 6 days.
I know enough about them to see that they defied America when they needed to attack Iraq. That was easy compared to this. Why won't they defy them again? Because they know they can't take Iran down. As for Israel defeating Arabs in six days, that was 42 years ago. In 2006 Israel lost the war to Hezbollah because Iranian anti-tank weapons created too many casualties for Israeli soldiers.
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It is foolish to underestimate Israels military power. They virtually wiped out six arab armies in 6 days... They can surely wipe out the Iranian nuclear capacity.
Again, this was 42 years ago. In 2006 Israel outright gave up and lost to Hezbollah because Iranian anti-tank weapons gave Israel soldiers too many casualties.
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It is foolish to underestimate Israels military power. They virtually wiped out six arab armies in 6 days... They can surely wipe out the Iranian nuclear capacity.
Again, this was 42 years ago. In 2006 Israel outright gave up and lost to Hezbollah because Iranian anti-tank weapons gave Israel soldiers too many casualties.
you sound like an mental midget that has a lot to learn about the might of G-d, and his people!
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You know nothing about Israel. Iran is a joke militarily. They fought for 8 years in the Iran-Iraq war and neither side could advance because both sides in the war were typical Muslim cowards. The only thing Muslims know how to do is commit terrorist acts against unarmed civilians and then hide behind their own women and children whom they turn into human shields. But Muslims are incapable of fighting like men on a real battlefield. On a real battlefield, even when they outnumbered the Jews 100 to 1, they lost disastrously in only 6 days.
I know enough about them to see that they defied America when they needed to attack Iraq. That was easy compared to this. Why won't they defy them again? Because they know they can't take Iran down. As for Israel defeating Arabs in six days, that was 42 years ago. In 2006 Israel lost the war to Hezbollah because Iranian anti-tank weapons created too many casualties for Israeli soldiers.
You are either a Muslim or an anti-Semite. Israel could have beaten the Hezballah terrorist cowards in one day if not for traitor Israeli leaders worrying more about Muslim Nazi "civilians" than about Jewish soldiers and Jewish civilians.
Israel did indeed win in 6 days in 1967, and today Israel is much stronger.
You are like all of the idiots who said before the 1991 Persian Gulf war that Iraq has the "fourth largest and most powerful army in the world". It took the U.S. military just 4 days to defeat the Iraqis.
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you sound like an mental midget that has a lot to learn about the might of G-d, and his people!
You sound like a delusional fool who focuses on Israel's old victories and ignores the present. Face it, Israel failed to accomplish it's goal of destroying Hezbollah and killing Nasrallah. You'll never admit this so you'll make up lies about Israeli leaders not being determined to win when in reality they could not sustain the casualties.
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The same thing is true in the Balkans: the heroic Serbs could have easily beaten the Bosnian Muslims and the Albanian Muslims if not for the intervention of the United States and most of Europe against the Serb people.
Muslims are cowards, they do not produce any of their own weapons, and they are utterly ineffective on the real battlefield.
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The same thing is true in the Balkans: the heroic Serbs could have easily beaten the Bosnian Muslims and the Albanian Muslims if not for the intervention of the United States and most of Europe against the Serb people.
Muslims are cowards, they do not produce any of their own weapons, and they are utterly ineffective on the real battlefield.
Which is partly the reason why they strap bombs to themselves or there children.
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You are either a Muslim or an anti-Semite. Israel could have beaten the Hezballah terrorist cowards in one day if not for traitor Israeli leaders worrying more about Muslim Nazi "civilians" than about Jewish soldiers and Jewish civilians.
Hahaha you can't handle the truth so accuse me of being a Muslim or anti-Semite. Anyone who disagrees with you is a "Nazi." You're pathetic. Before you ban me because you're a coward that can't win this debate, just answer this: Why did Israel not ask for America's permission to attack Osirak but now they pretend America is holding them back?
Israel did indeed win in 6 days in 1967, and today Israel is much stronger.
Again, 42 years ago. Just three years ago they lost to Iran's para-military force in Lebanon.
You are like all of the idiots who said before the 1991 Persian Gulf war that Iraq has the "fourth largest and most powerful army in the world". It took the U.S. military just 4 days to defeat the Iraqis.
I never said Iran is stronger than Israel. Israel isn't willing to sustain as many casualties as Iran is and therefore they refuse to attack their nuclear factories. Just watch Iran get those nuclear weapons.
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So Henry,
You think that Israel can't do it... Too bad for you... We know better than you do. You are entitled to delude yourself with the propaganda of Iran, or even believe Obamas fools... But those who know Israel, the military capabilities, and the politics are better suited than you to decide when this attack will happen.
So I say to you Henry.... WHO CARES what you think about the situation? You asked if we concur with your fantasy of Israel being too weak... You discovered that we know better than you do... Go back to the drawing board, bucko!
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So Henry,
You think that Israel can't do it... Too bad for you... We know better than you do. You are entitled to delude yourself with the propaganda of Iran, or even believe Obamas fools... But those who know Israel, the military capabilities, and the politics are better suited than you to decide when this attack will happen.
So I say to you Henry.... WHO CARES what you think about the situation? You asked if we concur with your fantasy of Israel being too weak... You discovered that we know better than you do... Go back to the drawing board, bucko!
You can't explain why Israel has waited so long to attack Iran. They didn't get America's permission to attack Iraq but now they pretend America is holding them back. Hezbollah is nothing compared to Iran's military and even they defeated Israel's military. So yes, we'll see. We'll see that America and Israel will watch Iran get nuclear weapons.
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Henry Ebelwas a supposed psychiatrist whe despised Jews and Germans and saw them both similar in their ways and mental illness
http://www.henryebel.com/My%20Filthy.htm
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Israel also has access to western weapons while the West refuses to sell Iran weapons. Iran must rely on inferior weapons from Russia, China, North Korea, and Pakistan. This is an unfair advantage.
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Henry Ebelwas a supposed psychiatrist whe despised Jews and Germans and saw them both similar in their ways and mental illness
http://www.henryebel.com/My%20Filthy.htm
You fool, I chose this name at random.
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It is foolish to underestimate Israels military power. They virtually wiped out six arab armies in 6 days... They can surely wipe out the Iranian nuclear capacity.
Again, this was 42 years ago. In 2006 Israel outright gave up and lost to Hezbollah because Iranian anti-tank weapons gave Israel soldiers too many casualties.
Henry, Israel could easily bomb out Iran's nuclear installations if they use mini nukes, which have much lower levels of radiation. Israel could also fry Iran's entire electronic/computer infra structure exploding a mini-nuke over Iran. But at this point, I don't think they would introduce nuclear weapons on the battlefield. Anyhow, some military experts claim Israel can effectively bomb Iran's nuclear physilities with conventional weapons. Israel really don't have a choice, if Iran won't stop it's nuclear program by a cut -off date, then I'm convinced Israel will bomb Iran, with or without, America's giant bunker busting bombs.
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So Henry,
You think that Israel can't do it... Too bad for you... We know better than you do. You are entitled to delude yourself with the propaganda of Iran, or even believe Obamas fools... But those who know Israel, the military capabilities, and the politics are better suited than you to decide when this attack will happen.
So I say to you Henry.... WHO CARES what you think about the situation? You asked if we concur with your fantasy of Israel being too weak... You discovered that we know better than you do... Go back to the drawing board, bucko!
You can't explain why Israel has waited so long to attack Iran. They didn't get America's permission to attack Iraq but now they pretend America is holding them back. Hezbollah is nothing compared to Iran's military and even they defeated Israel's military. So yes, we'll see. We'll see that America and Israel will watch Iran get nuclear weapons.
The war in Lebanon was run by a rank amateur COF in Israel only a ground force commander should be chief of staff.And the Prime Minister of Israel was olmert both were political failures not military failures
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Henry Ebelwas a supposed psychiatrist whe despised Jews and Germans and saw them both similar in their ways and mental illness
http://www.henryebel.com/My%20Filthy.htm
Oy Vey, that Henry Ebel sounds like one hell of a self-hating Jew... I hope that his stay in gehinnom does a good job of cleaning him up...
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Henry Ebelwas a supposed psychiatrist whe despised Jews and Germans and saw them both similar in their ways and mental illness
http://www.henryebel.com/My%20Filthy.htm
You fool, I chose this name at random.
I'm sure you did !t's an everyday name
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Henry Ebelwas a supposed psychiatrist whe despised Jews and Germans and saw them both similar in their ways and mental illness
http://www.henryebel.com/My%20Filthy.htm
You fool, I chose this name at random.
I seriously doubt that... What are the odds of a random name happening to be a real self-hating jew? Hmmmm!?!
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You are either a Muslim or an anti-Semite. Israel could have beaten the Hezballah terrorist cowards in one day if not for traitor Israeli leaders worrying more about Muslim Nazi "civilians" than about Jewish soldiers and Jewish civilians.
Hahaha you can't handle the truth so accuse me of being a Muslim or anti-Semite. Anyone who disagrees with you is a "Nazi." You're pathetic. Before you ban me because you're a coward that can't win this debate, just answer this: Why did Israel not ask for America's permission to attack Osirak but now they pretend America is holding them back?
Israel did indeed win in 6 days in 1967, and today Israel is much stronger.
Again, 42 years ago. Just three years ago they lost to Iran's para-military force in Lebanon.
You are like all of the idiots who said before the 1991 Persian Gulf war that Iraq has the "fourth largest and most powerful army in the world". It took the U.S. military just 4 days to defeat the Iraqis.
I never said Iran is stronger than Israel. Israel isn't willing to sustain as many casualties as Iran is and therefore they refuse to attack their nuclear factories. Just watch Iran get those nuclear weapons.
I'm a coward? I show my face all over the internet, and have shown my face to the public for 35 years.
Let's see you do the same: show us your real face and your real voice and your real name. If not, then you are a coward.
In 1981 when Israel destroyed Osirak, Israel was still semi-independent. Israel used to act independently here and there. Today, Israel's leaders never defy the U.S. - they even beg America for permission to build a few apartments in their own capital city of Jerusalem.
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Chaim went to prison for what he did to save his fellow Jews. He's one of the bravest people I've ever heard of.
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Henry, Israel could easily bomb out Iran's nuclear installations if they use mini nukes, which have much lower levels of radiation.
Iran's nuclear factories are widespread and hidden underground. Only the United States can eliminate these. Not to mention, that Israel has no air craft carriers or long range bombers. Re-fueling in the air is risky and it's doubtful that Israel can even do this.
Israel could also fry Iran's entire electronic/computer infra structure exploding a mini-nuke over Iran.
It wouldn't do any good because the Iranians can build new ones.
Anyhow, some military experts claim Israel can effectively bomb Iran's nuclear physilities with conventional weapons.
This is a lie. No non-Jewish expert has ever said such a thing. Go find a link if it's true.
Israel really don't have a choice, if Iran won't stop it's nuclear program by a cut -off date, then I'm convinced Israel will bomb Iran, with or without, America's giant bunker busting bombs.
They've been saying this for years but they still haven't done anything. All of you ignore the fact that Hezbollah defeated Israel and Israel had to took it's tale between it's legs and go home.
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Henry, don't you have an STD test you're gonna miss?
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Israel also has access to western weapons while the West refuses to sell Iran weapons. Iran must rely on inferior weapons from Russia, China, North Korea, and Pakistan. This is an unfair advantage.
Again, you display your ignorance. Iran under the Shah had all of the best American weaponry. Yet when Iran used those weapons in the Iran-Iraq, the Iranians still could not win.
The Saudis and the Arab oil sheiks buy far more American weaponry than tiny Israel.
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Do you know Anthony Cordesman one of preeminent military planners in the U.S
http://www.upi.com/Emerging_Threats/2007/11/21/Walkers-World-A-Mideast-nuclear-war/UPI-98841195660827/
Published: Nov. 21, 2007 at 11:00 AM
By MARTIN WALKER, UPI Editor Emeritus
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WASHINGTON, Nov. 21 (UPI) -- Anthony Cordesman may be the most influential man in Washington that most people have never heard of. A former director of intelligence assessment for the secretary of defense and director of policy and planning in the Department of Energy, he is now the top strategic guru at the Center for Strategic & International Studies.
Most serious politicians and journalists have for some years based their analyses of the Iraq war and its aftermath on his universally respected research. Cordesman is a facts man who likes and reveres good data and cool, clinical analysis as the keystones of policymaking.
He has now turned his laser-like research and forensic intelligence skills to studying the real implication of the endless diplomatic minuet at the United Nations over Iran's nuclear ambitions. In the real world, this matters mainly because an Iranian nuclear capability would transform the power balance in the wider Middle East, and leave the region and the rest of us living under the constant prospect of a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel.
This would mean, Cordesman suggests, some 16 million to 28 million Iranians dead within 21 days, and between 200,000 and 800,000 Israelis dead within the same time frame. The total of deaths beyond 21 days could rise very much higher, depending on civil defense and public health facilities, where Israel has a major advantage.
It is theoretically possible that the Israeli state, economy and organized society might just survive such an almost-mortal blow. Iran would not survive as an organized society. "Iranian recovery is not possible in the normal sense of the term," Cordesman notes.
The difference in the death tolls is largely because Israel is believed to have more nuclear weapons of very much higher yield (some of 1 megaton), and Israel is deploying the Arrow advanced anti-missile system in addition to its Patriot batteries. Fewer Iranian weapons would get through.
The difference in yield matters. The biggest bomb that Iran is expected to have is 100 kilotons, which can inflict third-degree burns on exposed flesh at 8 miles; Israel's 1-megaton bombs can inflict third-degree burns at 24 miles. Moreover, the radiation fallout from an airburst of such a 1-megaton bomb can kill unsheltered people at up to 80 miles within 18 hours as the radiation plume drifts. (Jordan, by the way, would suffer severe radiation damage from an Iranian strike on Tel Aviv.)
Cordesman assumes that Iran, with less than 30 nuclear warheads in the period after 2010, would aim for the main population centers of Tel Aviv and Haifa, while Israel would have more than 200 warheads and far better delivery systems, including cruise missiles launched from its 3 Dolphin-class submarines.
The assumption is that Israel would be going for Iran's nuclear development centers in Tehran, Natanz, Ardekan, Saghand, Gashin, Bushehr, Aral, Isfahan and Lashkar A'bad. Israel would also likely target the main population centers of Tehran, Tabriz, Qazvin, Isfahan, Shiraz, Yazd, Kerman, Qom, Ahwaz and Kermanshah. Cordesman points out that the city of Tehran, with a population of 15 million in its metropolitan area, is "a topographic basin with mountain reflector. Nearly ideal nuclear killing ground."
But it does not end there. Cordesman points out that Israel would need to keep a "reserve strike capability to ensure no other power can capitalize on Iranian strike." This means Israel would have to target "key Arab neighbors" -- in particular Syria and Egypt.
Cordesman notes that Israel would have various options, including a limited nuclear strike on the region mainly inhabited by the Alawite minority from which come the ruling Assad dynasty. A full-scale Israeli attack on Syria would kill up to 18 million people within 21 days; Syrian recovery would not be possible. A Syrian attack with all its reputed chemical and biological warfare assets could kill up to 800,000 Israelis, but Israeli society would recover.
An Israeli attack on Egypt would likely strike at the main population centers of Cairo, Alexandria, Damietta, Port Said, Suez, Luxor and Aswan. Cordesman does not give a death toll here, but it would certainly be in the tens of millions. It would also destroy the Suez Canal and almost certainly destroy the Aswan dam, sending monstrous floods down the Nile to sweep away the glowing rubble. It would mean the end of Egypt as a functioning society.
Cordesman also lists the oil wells, refineries and ports along the Gulf that could also be targets in the event of a mass nuclear response by an Israel convinced that it was being dealt a potentially mortal blow. Being contained within the region, such a nuclear exchange might not be Armageddon for the human race; it would certainly be Armageddon for the global economy.
So in clear, concise and chillingly forensic style, Cordesman spells out that the real stakes in the crisis that is building over Iran's nuclear ambitions would certainly include the end of Persian civilization, quite probably the end of Egyptian civilization, and the end of the Oil Age. This would also mean the end of globalization and the extraordinary accretions in world trade and growth and prosperity that are hauling hundreds of millions of Chinese and Indians and others out of poverty.
Cordesman concludes his chilling but dismayingly logical survey with the warning: "The only way to win is not to play.
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Again, you display your ignorance. Iran under the Shah had all of the best American weaponry. Yet when Iran used those weapons in the Iran-Iraq, the Iranians still could not win.
The Saudis and the Arab oil sheiks buy far more American weaponry than tiny Israel.
I wasn't talking about decades ago but in modern times. Iran is currently on sanctions with America and the west won't sell them weapons. Israel has an unfair advantage because they can get weapons from the West.
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Show us your face and your voice and your real name. You called me a coward, let's see how much of a man you are.
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Do you know Anthony Cordesman one of preeminent military planners in the U.S
http://www.upi.com/Emerging_Threats/2007/11/21/Walkers-World-A-Mideast-nuclear-war/UPI-98841195660827/
Published: Nov. 21, 2007 at 11:00 AM
By MARTIN WALKER, UPI Editor Emeritus
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Related Searches
WASHINGTON, Nov. 21 (UPI) -- Anthony Cordesman may be the most influential man in Washington that most people have never heard of. A former director of intelligence assessment for the secretary of defense and director of policy and planning in the Department of Energy, he is now the top strategic guru at the Center for Strategic & International Studies.
Most serious politicians and journalists have for some years based their analyses of the Iraq war and its aftermath on his universally respected research. Cordesman is a facts man who likes and reveres good data and cool, clinical analysis as the keystones of policymaking.
He has now turned his laser-like research and forensic intelligence skills to studying the real implication of the endless diplomatic minuet at the United Nations over Iran's nuclear ambitions. In the real world, this matters mainly because an Iranian nuclear capability would transform the power balance in the wider Middle East, and leave the region and the rest of us living under the constant prospect of a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel.
This would mean, Cordesman suggests, some 16 million to 28 million Iranians dead within 21 days, and between 200,000 and 800,000 Israelis dead within the same time frame. The total of deaths beyond 21 days could rise very much higher, depending on civil defense and public health facilities, where Israel has a major advantage.
It is theoretically possible that the Israeli state, economy and organized society might just survive such an almost-mortal blow. Iran would not survive as an organized society. "Iranian recovery is not possible in the normal sense of the term," Cordesman notes.
The difference in the death tolls is largely because Israel is believed to have more nuclear weapons of very much higher yield (some of 1 megaton), and Israel is deploying the Arrow advanced anti-missile system in addition to its Patriot batteries. Fewer Iranian weapons would get through.
The difference in yield matters. The biggest bomb that Iran is expected to have is 100 kilotons, which can inflict third-degree burns on exposed flesh at 8 miles; Israel's 1-megaton bombs can inflict third-degree burns at 24 miles. Moreover, the radiation fallout from an airburst of such a 1-megaton bomb can kill unsheltered people at up to 80 miles within 18 hours as the radiation plume drifts. (Jordan, by the way, would suffer severe radiation damage from an Iranian strike on Tel Aviv.)
Cordesman assumes that Iran, with less than 30 nuclear warheads in the period after 2010, would aim for the main population centers of Tel Aviv and Haifa, while Israel would have more than 200 warheads and far better delivery systems, including cruise missiles launched from its 3 Dolphin-class submarines.
The assumption is that Israel would be going for Iran's nuclear development centers in Tehran, Natanz, Ardekan, Saghand, Gashin, Bushehr, Aral, Isfahan and Lashkar A'bad. Israel would also likely target the main population centers of Tehran, Tabriz, Qazvin, Isfahan, Shiraz, Yazd, Kerman, Qom, Ahwaz and Kermanshah. Cordesman points out that the city of Tehran, with a population of 15 million in its metropolitan area, is "a topographic basin with mountain reflector. Nearly ideal nuclear killing ground."
But it does not end there. Cordesman points out that Israel would need to keep a "reserve strike capability to ensure no other power can capitalize on Iranian strike." This means Israel would have to target "key Arab neighbors" -- in particular Syria and Egypt.
Cordesman notes that Israel would have various options, including a limited nuclear strike on the region mainly inhabited by the Alawite minority from which come the ruling Assad dynasty. A full-scale Israeli attack on Syria would kill up to 18 million people within 21 days; Syrian recovery would not be possible. A Syrian attack with all its reputed chemical and biological warfare assets could kill up to 800,000 Israelis, but Israeli society would recover.
An Israeli attack on Egypt would likely strike at the main population centers of Cairo, Alexandria, Damietta, Port Said, Suez, Luxor and Aswan. Cordesman does not give a death toll here, but it would certainly be in the tens of millions. It would also destroy the Suez Canal and almost certainly destroy the Aswan dam, sending monstrous floods down the Nile to sweep away the glowing rubble. It would mean the end of Egypt as a functioning society.
Cordesman also lists the oil wells, refineries and ports along the Gulf that could also be targets in the event of a mass nuclear response by an Israel convinced that it was being dealt a potentially mortal blow. Being contained within the region, such a nuclear exchange might not be Armageddon for the human race; it would certainly be Armageddon for the global economy.
So in clear, concise and chillingly forensic style, Cordesman spells out that the real stakes in the crisis that is building over Iran's nuclear ambitions would certainly include the end of Persian civilization, quite probably the end of Egyptian civilization, and the end of the Oil Age. This would also mean the end of globalization and the extraordinary accretions in world trade and growth and prosperity that are hauling hundreds of millions of Chinese and Indians and others out of poverty.
Cordesman concludes his chilling but dismayingly logical survey with the warning: "The only way to win is not to play.
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I'm a coward? I show my face all over the internet, and have shown my face to the public for 35 years.
Let's see you do the same: show us your real face and your real voice and your real name. If not, then you are a coward.
In 1981 when Israel destroyed Osirak, Israel was still semi-independent. Israel used to act independently here and there. Today, Israel's leaders never defy the U.S. - they even beg America for permission to build a few apartments in their own capital city of Jerusalem.
Yes, you're all cowards for labeling anyone who doesn't believe your lies as a Nazi. I don't have to show my face to not be a coward.
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Hey Fairy, Hezbollah defeated Israel because these days Israelis are not willing to inflict so-called "civilian" casualties. The wimpy, Hellenized Jews of today, who care more about the "human rights" of their enemies than surviving, defeated themselves.
One good carpet-bomb run over the Bekaa Valley and Beirut would have finished the Hezbollah problem. Yes, they are very tough and effective fighters (unlike 99% of Muslim "soldiers"), but that would have meant nothing if the IAF decided to use even just 10% of its real force.
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Show us your face and your voice and your real name. You called me a coward, let's see how much of a man you are.
Not showing my face doesn't make me a coward. Calling anyone who disagrees with you a Nazi is cowardly. Almost everyone would disagree with you so are most people Nazis?
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I'm a coward? I show my face all over the internet, and have shown my face to the public for 35 years.
Let's see you do the same: show us your real face and your real voice and your real name. If not, then you are a coward.
In 1981 when Israel destroyed Osirak, Israel was still semi-independent. Israel used to act independently here and there. Today, Israel's leaders never defy the U.S. - they even beg America for permission to build a few apartments in their own capital city of Jerusalem.
Yes, you're all cowards for labeling anyone who doesn't believe your lies as a Nazi. I don't have to show my face to not be a coward.
Anyone who doesn't believe your lies is a nazi... Your the one who is lying here. Why do you come here only to be a complete loser? Do we come to your home and make a mess there? Also you are the coward in this case. We all know what Chaim has done, how he has stood up for what is right... You on the other hand are using the nicname of a known self-hating Jew and claiming that Israel is not strong enough to destroy the Iranian nuclear program... Do you really think we would consider you a sane human being?
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Israel also has access to western weapons while the West refuses to sell Iran weapons. Iran must rely on inferior weapons from Russia, China, North Korea, and Pakistan. This is an unfair advantage.
Again, you display your ignorance. Iran under the Shah had all of the best American weaponry. Yet when Iran used those weapons in the Iran-Iraq, the Iranians still could not win.
The Saudis and the Arab oil sheiks buy far more American weaponry than tiny Israel.
Henry, you just gave yourself away an an anti-semite. I didn't have a problem with you till now. First you claimed that Israel didn't have the ability to stop Iran's Nuclear program. That is your opinion, which is fair enough. But now you say that Israel has an unfair advantage because they receive weapons from the United States. It seems to me, you're obviously on the side of Iran with a statement like that. Why would you care, if Israel used America's weapons to bomb Iran, when you're whole point was , they don't have the ability to do it.
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You said that Iran has inferior Russian weaponry and that Israel has the nuclear advantage but also say Israel is not capable of beating Iran? This is not logical.
Israel can beat Iran in a war but won't be willing to sustain the casualties and they also won't be able to eliminate the nuclear threat. Why is this illogical?
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Not showing my face doesn't make me a coward. Calling anyone who disagrees with you a Nazi is cowardly. Almost everyone would disagree with you so are most people Nazis?
You are a flaming fairy. Time to go back to your buttboys over at Whorefront.
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Henry, you just gave yourself away an an anti-semite. I didn't have a problem with you till now. First you claimed that Israel didn't have the ability to stop Iran's Nuclear program. That is your opinion, which is fair enough. But now you say that Israel has an unfair advantage because they receive weapons from the United States. It seems to me, you're obviously on the side of Iran with a statement like that. Why would you care, if Israel used America's weapons to bomb Iran, when you're whole point was , they don't have the ability to do it.
I'm on the side of truth. Israel has an advantage because of the weapons they get from the west. Anyone that denies this is a liar.
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And anyone who can't see that you are a flaming WN, I feel sorry for.
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Question for you Femmy:
What were the results of your last HIV test?
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Further proof that Israel is full of crap, Netanyahu was supposed to attack Iran. What happened? What is he waiting for? He will end up not doing it. The odds of Israel attacking Iran is very low and if they do it it will be a half-assed job because of the casualties and the difficulty of finding and destroying their underground factories.
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You called me a coward. I show my face to the whole world and say very controversial and offensive things.
You, on the other hand, are just a worthless wimp whom no one even cares about. So why not show your face and give us your real name? Are you that terrified?
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and if they do it it will be a half-assed job because of the casualties and the difficulty of finding and destroying their underground factories.
Wrong, if this happens it will be because they feel bad about Iranian casualties.
If Israel wanted to, it could make the entire Middle East Muslim-free in a matter of minutes.
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Do you know Anthony Cordesman one of preeminent military planners in the U.S
http://www.upi.com/Emerging_Threats/2007/11/21/Walkers-World-A-Mideast-nuclear-war/UPI-98841195660827/
Published: Nov. 21, 2007 at 11:00 AM
By MARTIN WALKER, UPI Editor Emeritus
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WASHINGTON, Nov. 21 (UPI) -- Anthony Cordesman may be the most influential man in Washington that most people have never heard of. A former director of intelligence assessment for the secretary of defense and director of policy and planning in the Department of Energy, he is now the top strategic guru at the Center for Strategic & International Studies.
Most serious politicians and journalists have for some years based their analyses of the Iraq war and its aftermath on his universally respected research. Cordesman is a facts man who likes and reveres good data and cool, clinical analysis as the keystones of policymaking.
He has now turned his laser-like research and forensic intelligence skills to studying the real implication of the endless diplomatic minuet at the United Nations over Iran's nuclear ambitions. In the real world, this matters mainly because an Iranian nuclear capability would transform the power balance in the wider Middle East, and leave the region and the rest of us living under the constant prospect of a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel.
This would mean, Cordesman suggests, some 16 million to 28 million Iranians dead within 21 days, and between 200,000 and 800,000 Israelis dead within the same time frame. The total of deaths beyond 21 days could rise very much higher, depending on civil defense and public health facilities, where Israel has a major advantage.
It is theoretically possible that the Israeli state, economy and organized society might just survive such an almost-mortal blow. Iran would not survive as an organized society. "Iranian recovery is not possible in the normal sense of the term," Cordesman notes.
The difference in the death tolls is largely because Israel is believed to have more nuclear weapons of very much higher yield (some of 1 megaton), and Israel is deploying the Arrow advanced anti-missile system in addition to its Patriot batteries. Fewer Iranian weapons would get through.
The difference in yield matters. The biggest bomb that Iran is expected to have is 100 kilotons, which can inflict third-degree burns on exposed flesh at 8 miles; Israel's 1-megaton bombs can inflict third-degree burns at 24 miles. Moreover, the radiation fallout from an airburst of such a 1-megaton bomb can kill unsheltered people at up to 80 miles within 18 hours as the radiation plume drifts. (Jordan, by the way, would suffer severe radiation damage from an Iranian strike on Tel Aviv.)
Cordesman assumes that Iran, with less than 30 nuclear warheads in the period after 2010, would aim for the main population centers of Tel Aviv and Haifa, while Israel would have more than 200 warheads and far better delivery systems, including cruise missiles launched from its 3 Dolphin-class submarines.
The assumption is that Israel would be going for Iran's nuclear development centers in Tehran, Natanz, Ardekan, Saghand, Gashin, Bushehr, Aral, Isfahan and Lashkar A'bad. Israel would also likely target the main population centers of Tehran, Tabriz, Qazvin, Isfahan, Shiraz, Yazd, Kerman, Qom, Ahwaz and Kermanshah. Cordesman points out that the city of Tehran, with a population of 15 million in its metropolitan area, is "a topographic basin with mountain reflector. Nearly ideal nuclear killing ground."
But it does not end there. Cordesman points out that Israel would need to keep a "reserve strike capability to ensure no other power can capitalize on Iranian strike." This means Israel would have to target "key Arab neighbors" -- in particular Syria and Egypt.
Cordesman notes that Israel would have various options, including a limited nuclear strike on the region mainly inhabited by the Alawite minority from which come the ruling Assad dynasty. A full-scale Israeli attack on Syria would kill up to 18 million people within 21 days; Syrian recovery would not be possible. A Syrian attack with all its reputed chemical and biological warfare assets could kill up to 800,000 Israelis, but Israeli society would recover.
An Israeli attack on Egypt would likely strike at the main population centers of Cairo, Alexandria, Damietta, Port Said, Suez, Luxor and Aswan. Cordesman does not give a death toll here, but it would certainly be in the tens of millions. It would also destroy the Suez Canal and almost certainly destroy the Aswan dam, sending monstrous floods down the Nile to sweep away the glowing rubble. It would mean the end of Egypt as a functioning society.
Cordesman also lists the oil wells, refineries and ports along the Gulf that could also be targets in the event of a mass nuclear response by an Israel convinced that it was being dealt a potentially mortal blow. Being contained within the region, such a nuclear exchange might not be Armageddon for the human race; it would certainly be Armageddon for the global economy.
So in clear, concise and chillingly forensic style, Cordesman spells out that the real stakes in the crisis that is building over Iran's nuclear ambitions would certainly include the end of Persian civilization, quite probably the end of Egyptian civilization, and the end of the Oil Age. This would also mean the end of globalization and the extraordinary accretions in world trade and growth and prosperity that are hauling hundreds of millions of Chinese and Indians and others out of poverty.
Cordesman concludes his chilling but dismayingly logical survey with the warning: "The only way to win is not to play.
This article states the casualties of nuclear war. I'm talking about Israel not having the ability to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.
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Henry, you just gave yourself away an an anti-semite. I didn't have a problem with you till now. First you claimed that Israel didn't have the ability to stop Iran's Nuclear program. That is your opinion, which is fair enough. But now you say that Israel has an unfair advantage because they receive weapons from the United States. It seems to me, you're obviously on the side of Iran with a statement like that. Why would you care, if Israel used America's weapons to bomb Iran, when you're whole point was , they don't have the ability to do it.
I'm on the side of truth. Israel has an advantage because of the weapons they get from the west. Anyone that denies this is a liar.
Henry: You blew your cover.
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Henry, you just gave yourself away an an anti-semite. I didn't have a problem with you till now. First you claimed that Israel didn't have the ability to stop Iran's Nuclear program. That is your opinion, which is fair enough. But now you say that Israel has an unfair advantage because they receive weapons from the United States. It seems to me, you're obviously on the side of Iran with a statement like that. Why would you care, if Israel used America's weapons to bomb Iran, when you're whole point was , they don't have the ability to do it.
I'm on the side of truth. Israel has an advantage because of the weapons they get from the west. Anyone that denies this is a liar.
Henry: You blew your cover.
Lets see Jordan western weapons,Saudi Western Weapons yet they have never even fought a successful anti terrorist operation when they had trouble during the Haj they allowed french troops into Mekka.Iraq had french weapons Syria at times the most up to Russian weapons.Egypt U.S. weapons
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I am not as knowledgeable, as the rest of you here about the weapons aspect of this discussion, but this one thing I do know. Israel must not give one inch of land to anyone for the Scriptures have stated belong to them. America must back Israel in order to survive, and Israel must do anything and everything necessary to ensure its survival. You cannot argue with the devil. You cannot. The devil hates you and only wishes your demise. You cannot reason with evil, or argue with ignorance. You waste valuable time, energy and strength. The only thing evil knows is strength, authority and decisive quick action. This is why my late Father, a WWII bomber pilot, flying over Germany, never blinked an eye. I asked him years later, did he ever feel any remorse, or pains spiritually or emotionally. He simply stated, "No, I was fighting evil. It was either them or the rest of the world, dear." Kind of sums it up, doesn't it?
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Hey everybody: Henry says Israel cant stop Iran's nuclear program. Then Henry (the cry baby) says, "Waaaa, it's not fair Israel has better weapons than Iran." What a retard he is!
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You called me a coward. I show my face to the whole world and say very controversial and offensive things.
Showing your face means nothing when you're dishonest.
You, on the other hand, are just a worthless wimp whom no one even cares about. So why not show your face and give us your real name? Are you that terrified?
Hahaha. You don't even know who I am. You're a stuffed-nosed dwarf who was surely raped in prison by Blacks. Don't deny this. People like you are hunted in prison. No wonder you hate Blacks so much. You must rely on donations to pay your rent. :laugh:
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I am not as knowledgeable, as the rest of you here about the weapons aspect of this discussion, but this one thing I do know. Israel must not give one inch of land to anyone for the Scriptures have stated belong to them. America must back Israel in order to survive, and Israel must do anything and everything necessary to ensure its survival. You cannot argue with the devil. You cannot. The devil hates you and only wishes your demise. You cannot reason with evil, or argue with ignorance. You waste valuable time, energy and strength. The only thing evil knows is strength, authority and decisive quick action. This is why my late Father, a WWII bomber pilot, flying over Germany, never blinked an eye. I asked him years later, did he ever feel any remorse, or pains spiritually or emotionally. He simply stated, "No, I was fighting evil. It was either them or the rest of the world, dear." Kind of sums it up, doesn't it?
We don't believe in the devil... Hashem is the one and only power in the universe. Anyone who believes that the devil has any power which Hashem cannot control is an idol worshiper. Hashem is ONE, his name is ONE, and beside him there is no other...
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What's a matter Henry boy... low income job?
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You called me a coward. I show my face to the whole world and say very controversial and offensive things.
Showing your face means nothing when you're dishonest.
You, on the other hand, are just a worthless wimp whom no one even cares about. So why not show your face and give us your real name? Are you that terrified?
Hahaha. You don't even know who I am. You're a stuffed-nosed dwarf who was surely raped in prison by Blacks. Don't deny this. People like you are hunted in prison. No wonder you hate Blacks so much. You must rely on donations to pay your rent.
Henry, you strike me as a loser who is looking for attention. Unfortunately you have gotten more attention than you deserve here. I personally don't care who the hell you are and your opinion means nothing to me. Antisemites and self-hating Jews have talked like this against Israel since we first became a nation. I don't hate you for your misguided opinion, but I do think you are really asking to be banned from JTF. I fully support your banning from JTF and will act against you.
You have presented nothing but your idiot opinion and expected us to agree with your assinine conclusions. You are only deluding yourself...
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Saying that Israel doesn't have the capabilities to destroy Iran's nuke program is preposterous.
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Hey everybody: Henry says Israel cant stop Iran's nuclear program. Then Henry (the cry baby) says, "Waaaa, it's not fair Israel has better weapons than Iran." What a retard he is!
No it's that you don't have the brain capacity to comprehend what I said. Israel can't stop Iran. Period. This has nothing to do with military strength but everything to with the Iranians concealing and spreading their factories to the depths of their nation. Regarding a one on one war with Israel, Iran would lose because Israel has American and western weapons while Iran is on sanctions. Iran would still inflict enough casualties on Israel that they would give up, just like in 2006 with Hezbollah.
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Israel gave up against Hezbollah before the war even started. It didn't have the stomach to inflict Lebanese "civilian" casualties or "occupy" the country.
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Hey everybody: Henry says Israel cant stop Iran's nuclear program. Then Henry (the cry baby) says, "Waaaa, it's not fair Israel has better weapons than Iran." What a retard he is!
No it's that you don't have the brain capacity to comprehend what I said. Israel can't stop Iran. Period. This has nothing to do with military strength but everything to with the Iranians concealing and spreading their factories to the depths of their nation. Regarding a one on one war with Israel, Iran would lose because Israel has American and western weapons while Iran is on sanctions. Iran would still inflict enough casualties on Israel that they would give up, just like in 2006 with Hezbollah.
When will you give up your idiocy? Israel can pull the plug on Iran any day. As we explained Israel is currently trying to act as a good partner with America and is holding off from the attack. Anyone who knows Israeli military understands why they are waiting. You just want to sit there and act like a paper arsehole.
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Hey everybody: Henry says Israel cant stop Iran's nuclear program. Then Henry (the cry baby) says, "Waaaa, it's not fair Israel has better weapons than Iran." What a retard he is!
No it's that you don't have the brain capacity to comprehend what I said. Israel can't stop Iran. Period. This has nothing to do with military strength but everything to with the Iranians concealing and spreading their factories to the depths of their nation. Regarding a one on one war with Israel, Iran would lose because Israel has American and western weapons while Iran is on sanctions. Iran would still inflict enough casualties on Israel that they would give up, just like in 2006 with Hezbollah.
Waaaa, wipe your tears away baby boy. You'll have a better day tomorrow when you get your welfare cheese.
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Hey everybody: Henry says Israel cant stop Iran's nuclear program. Then Henry (the cry baby) says, "Waaaa, it's not fair Israel has better weapons than Iran." What a retard he is!
No it's that you don't have the brain capacity to comprehend what I said. Israel can't stop Iran. Period. This has nothing to do with military strength but everything to with the Iranians concealing and spreading their factories to the depths of their nation. Regarding a one on one war with Israel, Iran would lose because Israel has American and western weapons while Iran is on sanctions. Iran would still inflict enough casualties on Israel that they would give up, just like in 2006 with Hezbollah.
I really doubt it olmert the leftist gave up for his own political reasons.If yyou don't know how left olmert is look up his family
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Henry, you strike me as a loser who is looking for attention. Unfortunately you have gotten more attention than you deserve here. I personally don't care who the hell you are and your opinion means nothing to me. Antisemites and self-hating Jews have talked like this against Israel since we first became a nation. I don't hate you for your misguided opinion, but I do think you are really asking to be banned from JTF. I fully support your banning from JTF and will act against you.
You have presented nothing but your idiot opinion and expected us to agree with your assinine conclusions. You are only deluding yourself...
You're right. This is my opinion and you called me a Nazi for having it. You assume that because I think Israel can't take out Iran's factories I'm a Nazi and that I favor Iran when in reality I don't care for Iran. Take a good look at yourselves, you're all mentally sick. By your logic 99% of all people are Nazis.
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You called me a coward. I show my face to the whole world and say very controversial and offensive things.
Showing your face means nothing when you're dishonest.
You, on the other hand, are just a worthless wimp whom no one even cares about. So why not show your face and give us your real name? Are you that terrified?
Hahaha. You don't even know who I am. You're a stuffed-nosed dwarf who was surely raped in prison by Blacks. Don't deny this. People like you are hunted in prison. No wonder you hate Blacks so much. You must rely on donations to pay your rent. :laugh:
You Henry know very little about prison i on the other hand are very familiar with prison LOL and if you post your photo i will post mine and i'm far from a little wimp ;D
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You Henry know very little about prison i on the other hand are very familiar with prison LOL and if you post your photo i will post mine and i'm far from a little wimp ;D
Face it, your leader gave head and a.ss to Blacks in prison and because of that he now has a hate-complex for Blacks. :laugh:
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You Henry know very little about prison i on the other hand are very familiar with prison LOL and if you post your photo i will post mine and i'm far from a little wimp ;D
Face it, your leader gave head and donkey to Blacks in prison and know he has a hate-complex for Blacks. :laugh:
Do you want me to post my photo i will post yours.Like i said if you believe what you say you really have little knowledge of prison. 8)
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Henry, "Waaa, it's not fair Israel has better weapons than Iran. I'm Henry the ignoramous, I am, I am."
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Face it, your leader gave head and a.ss to Blacks in prison and because of that he now has a hate-complex for Blacks.
Seriously... stop projecting your favorite bathhouse diversions onto us. Not everybody is gay.
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You Henry know very little about prison i on the other hand are very familiar with prison LOL and if you post your photo i will post mine and i'm far from a little wimp ;D
Face it, your leader gave head and a.ss to Blacks in prison and because of that he now has a hate-complex for Blacks. :laugh:
you're a psychologist now?
by your logic if you don't love apes then you must have gotten raped by them
I hate apes to does that mean i got raped as well??
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Henry is just another liberal self hating white piece of trash.
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The New Yorker article mentions that one of the principal AB members, TD Bingham, is half Jewish and has a Star of David tattoo. Another member is named Tom Silverstein. This reinforces the argument that the AB is a prison gang rather than an "Aryan Nations"-style "extremist" group. Furthermore, having members of Mexican descent or with Spanish-sounding last names doesn't mean that a group has "non-White" members, since "Latino" is a cultural term and doesn't denote any particular race and many Mexicans are "White" as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Aryan_Brotherhood#misrepresentation_of_them_in_the_wiki_entry
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Henry why did you have to open your mouth in the first place? Nobody has their dicks out. You Fag!!
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Chaim or an administrator: track the IP of this Henry guy and post it in this topic.
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When will you give up your idiocy? Israel can pull the plug on Iran any day. As we explained Israel is currently trying to act as a good partner with America and is holding off from the attack. Anyone who knows Israeli military understands why they are waiting. You just want to sit there and act like a paper arsehole.
Like I said, they don't have a single air craft carrier or large long range bomber and these are critical to eliminating their nuclear factories. Re-fueling in the air is considered risky. Even if Israel used every last nuclear weapons against Iran to eliminate their factories it still wouldn't work because there are so many factories they would need more than 200 nuclear weapons to pull it off.
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Aces, he's mad at the world because he only has six months left to live from advanced AIDS.
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When will you give up your idiocy? Israel can pull the plug on Iran any day. As we explained Israel is currently trying to act as a good partner with America and is holding off from the attack. Anyone who knows Israeli military understands why they are waiting. You just want to sit there and act like a paper arsehole.
Like I said, they don't have a single air craft carrier or large long range bomber and these are critical to eliminating their nuclear factories. Re-fueling in the air is considered risky. Even if Israel used every last nuclear weapons against Iran to eliminate their factories it still wouldn't work because there are so many factories they would need more than 200 nuclear weapons to pull it off.
What a crock of shiat!
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Chaim went to prison for what he did to save his fellow Jews. He's one of the bravest people I've ever heard of.
Pretty much enduring 5 years of hell. Something most people wouldn't do.
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All of you morons can say whatever you want about me but in reality you don't know a damn thing about me. Everyone knows that weaklings are hunted in prison. I say there's a 90% chance your dwarf cult leader Ben Pesach was raped by Blacks. The JDL didn't focus on Blacks as much as he does because he's got in for Blacks for what they did to him. Ben Pesach, you coward you try to look all tough now but you were the wimp in prison.
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When will you give up your idiocy? Israel can pull the plug on Iran any day. As we explained Israel is currently trying to act as a good partner with America and is holding off from the attack. Anyone who knows Israeli military understands why they are waiting. You just want to sit there and act like a paper arsehole.
Like I said, they don't have a single air craft carrier or large long range bomber and these are critical to eliminating their nuclear factories. Re-fueling in the air is considered risky. Even if Israel used every last nuclear weapons against Iran to eliminate their factories it still wouldn't work because there are so many factories they would need more than 200 nuclear weapons to pull it off.
What a crock of shiat!
They already made 2 or possibly 3 test runs over Greece over turkey and possibly over Saudi plus their subs carry missles
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Henry, I refuse to respond to any more of your homosexual fantasy posts until you tell us what your current T-cell count is. What is it, 5? 8?
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When will you give up your idiocy? Israel can pull the plug on Iran any day. As we explained Israel is currently trying to act as a good partner with America and is holding off from the attack. Anyone who knows Israeli military understands why they are waiting. You just want to sit there and act like a paper arsehole.
Like I said, they don't have a single air craft carrier or large long range bomber and these are critical to eliminating their nuclear factories. Re-fueling in the air is considered risky. Even if Israel used every last nuclear weapons against Iran to eliminate their factories it still wouldn't work because there are so many factories they would need more than 200 nuclear weapons to pull it off.
What a crock of shiat!
They already made 2 or possibly 3 test runs over Greece over turkey and possibly over Saudi plus their subs carry missles
I was responding to Henry not you!
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Henry, I refuse to respond to any more of your homosexual fantasy posts until you tell us what your current T-cell count is. What is it, 5? 8?
Angry about your cult leader having Black husbands? I would do if I were you.
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All of you morons can say whatever you want about me but in reality you don't know a damn thing about me. Everyone knows that weaklings are hunted in prison. I say there's a 90% chance your dwarf cult leader Ben Pesach was raped by Blacks. The JDL didn't focus on Blacks as much as he does because he's got in for Blacks for what they did to him. Ben Pesach, you coward you try to look all tough now but you were the wimp in prison.
The JDL did focus on blacks in Bedford Stuyvesant in Harlem the [censored] on the lower east side.Your a punk i can see by the fact you really know prisons only from T.V.
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Henry, I refuse to respond to any more of your homosexual fantasy posts until you tell us what your current T-cell count is. What is it, 5? 8?
Angry about your cult leader having Black husbands? I would do if I were you.
Hey if i was a fag you would be my [censored]
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He got his sexual fantasy from american history X !!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
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Henry, I refuse to respond to any more of your homosexual fantasy posts until you tell us what your current T-cell count is. What is it, 5? 8?
Angry about your cult leader having Black husbands? I would do if I were you.
Hey if i was a fag you would be my kurva
Kurwa dupa!
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Hey if i was a fag you would be my kurva
You said you know a lot about prison so you were probably raped too.
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Show us your face, coward. No matter what you say, until you show us your face, your statements are all one big bluff.
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Show us your face, coward. No matter what you say, until you show us your face, your statements are all one big bluff.
What Country is Henry posting from??
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Hey if i was a fag you would be my kurva
You said you know a lot about prison so you were probably raped too.
lol i beat the crap out of prisoners and get paid
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Show us your face, coward. No matter what you say, until you show us your face, your statements are all one big bluff.
What Country is Henry posting from??
He's from New York.
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Post his IP man!
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Probably an ape then.
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Henry, you strike me as a loser who is looking for attention. Unfortunately you have gotten more attention than you deserve here. I personally don't care who the hell you are and your opinion means nothing to me. Antisemites and self-hating Jews have talked like this against Israel since we first became a nation. I don't hate you for your misguided opinion, but I do think you are really asking to be banned from JTF. I fully support your banning from JTF and will act against you.
You have presented nothing but your idiot opinion and expected us to agree with your assinine conclusions. You are only deluding yourself...
You're right. This is my opinion and you called me a Nazi for having it. You assume that because I think Israel can't take out Iran's factories I'm a Nazi and that I favor Iran when in reality I don't care for Iran. Take a good look at yourselves, you're all mentally sick. By your logic 99% of all people are Nazis.
I called you a nazi? I don't think so... I do not casually go around calling people by this name... But I turned around your ill-logic against you and said 'Those who don't believe your lies are a nazi...'.
You are having a hard time keeping track of how many forum members you have upset... Maybe you will feel better tomorrow after you have had time to collect your brain.
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Show us your face, coward. No matter what you say, until you show us your face, your statements are all one big bluff.
Shut this forum down Ben Pesach. I've humiliated you and your mindless drones.
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Henry, you are obviously the expert at taking it from schvartzes. You are just like Faginem. Who is your Dr. Dre?
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I love when apes side with Iran and other Muslim countries. It's like a slave siding with Massa.
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Israel also has access to western weapons while the West refuses to sell Iran weapons. Iran must rely on inferior weapons from Russia, China, North Korea, and Pakistan. This is an unfair advantage.
An unfair advantage ?
There's absolutely nothing unfair about it.
Do you think wars should only be waged by opponents with an equal quantity and quality of weapons ?
Israel has better weapons than the Iranians. BOO-FREAKIN-HOO.
I don't see you complaining that the Persians and Arabs have 600 times more land and 100 times the population than Israel does. That's unfair, but that's life.
I don't see you complaining about 22 Arab nations that have been attacking Israel and clamoring for her destruction for 60+ years. That's unfair, but that's reality.
I don't see you complaining that Iran's leadership which has absolutely no claim to the Land of Israel has repeatedly sworn to wipe Israel off the map. Why would they want to do that ? Heck, the Iranians aren't even Arabs, so what's their dog in this fight ? It's the Jew hatred endemic in the Islamic world. That's unfair, but that's life.
Cry me a river about 'unfair'. LIFE ISN'T FAIR.
There's nothing unfair about a tiny beseiged nation surrounded by implacable enemies sworn to her destruction, developing and procuring the BEST weaponry and using it to fight off any and all existential threats.
Now, you might doubt Israel has the capability to destroy or at the very least set back Iran's capacity to build nukes. There are even some 'experts' that might agree with you. I think this is foolish.
Diffused hardened bunkers, SAM missiles and the logistics involved certainly make the job more difficult than the raid on Osirak. But it is almost definitely not beyond the capabilities of the best Air Force in the Mideast, and perhaps the world.
No, there is little doubt Israel can get the job done. It won't be easy, but it's doable.
Of greater concern is the ramifications of such an attack.
What will the Iranian response be ?
Expect missile barrages on tiny Israel from Iran and her Hezbollah proxies.
Iran might very well attempt to block the Straits of Hormuz.
It's easy to see how such an attack could lead to a massive conflagration with the entire Mideast going up like a tinder-box.
The clock is ticking. Every day brings us closer to action having to be taken.
Considering the dire consequences that are likely to result from an attack on Iran, it's understandable why Israel and the USA have been delaying and trying to avoid this necessity. But make no mistake, Iran isn't going to be deterred by diplomacy or sanctions. There is no political solution, there is only a military one. And as dire as the consequences of such military action may be, they pale in comparison to the consequences of a nuclear Iran poised to destroy Israel.
The sooner it happens, the better.
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He's from New York.
200 bucks says this rumpblaster is Jesus Rivera, Jr.
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Show us your face, coward. No matter what you say, until you show us your face, your statements are all one big bluff.
Shut this forum down Ben Pesach. I've humiliated you and your mindless drones.
lol what a faggot the best part of you dripped in between your mothers legs
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Post his IP man!
Here's my IP: 151.205.177.168. What are you going to do?
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Post his IP man!
Here's my IP: 151.205.177.168. What are you going to do?
Duly noted... We have ways to obtain more information than you would be willing to expose...
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Show us your face, coward. No matter what you say, until you show us your face, your statements are all one big bluff.
Shut this forum down Ben Pesach. I've humiliated you and your mindless drones.
Funny, we don't think so. We're actually having a good time showing what a cowardly moron you are.
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Chaim is right. This is actually entertaining.
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Henry,
You masochistic mother.... Do you enjoy being the butt of so many jokes? We are laughing AT YOU, not WITH YOU...
You remind me of the kid in school who is constantly the pest, who the schoolmates continuously make fun of. Your a mental midget compared to most here at JTF.
Why don't you just give up... You are overpowered here... Maybe you can find some solace over at StørmFrønt where you will be welcomed with open arms...
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Post his IP man!
Here's my IP: 151.205.177.168. What are you going to do?
We already had your IP. We want your real name and your face.
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verizon i think it's a n -i-g-g-a or joey the fag cohen
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Here's my IP: 151.205.177.168. What are you going to do?
He is probably doing this in the hopes that other fags will read it and that casual male sex partners will be able to track his home address through it and pay him a visit.
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Can you imagine what a wimp this guy is when you meet him in person?
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He probably is literally falling apart from Kaposi's Sarcoma ulcers.
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Post his IP man!
Here's my IP: 151.205.177.168. What are you going to do?
Duly noted... We have ways to obtain more information than you would be willing to expose...
The less said the better....A quick banning would be the best medicine for this jack-a-s.
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This psychopath enjoys attention.
What is the point of letting his account stay up?
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Hes just another [censored] man like Kieth Olberman.
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I bet he's a Ron Paul zombie. He has that Ron Paul-type circular logic.
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Chaim, can't we make an island to exile all the homos too?
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Chaim, can't we make an island to exile all the homos too?
Too late. Haven't you heard of Manhattan island?
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Chaim, can't we make an island to exile all the homos too?
:::D :::D :::D :::D I have long Island city but thats not here or there
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Too late. Haven't you heard of Manhattan island?
Is that where this fine specimen's IP is from?
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An unfair advantage ?
There's absolutely nothing unfair about it.
Do you think wars should only be waged by opponents with an equal quantity and quality of weapons ?
Israel has better weapons than the Iranians. BOO-FREAKIN-HOO.
When you start bragging about Israel having a superior military it should be understood that their weapons come from the west. Iran is on sanctions with America and no western nation will sell it weapons. Your bragging is illogical as any nation can buy weapons.
I don't see you complaining that the Persians and Arabs have 600 times more land and 100 times the population than Israel does. That's unfair, but that's life.
I don't see you complaining about 22 Arab nations that have been attacking Israel and clamoring for her destruction for 60+ years. That's unfair, but that's reality.
I don't see you complaining that Iran's leadership which has absolutely no claim to the Land of Israel has repeatedly sworn to wipe Israel off the map. Why would they want to do that ? Heck, the Iranians aren't even Arabs, so what's their dog in this fight ? It's the Jew hatred endemic in the Islamic world. That's unfair, but that's life.
Cry me a river about 'unfair'. LIFE ISN'T FAIR.
There's nothing unfair about a tiny beseiged nation surrounded by implacable enemies sworn to her destruction, developing and procuring the BEST weaponry and using it to fight off any and all existential threats.
This is not the subject of the debate. Israel can't eliminate the Iranian threat because they would have done it long ago if it were as easy as you say it is. Now explain why they didn't ask America to attack Osirak but now they act like America is stopping them? They've proven that they don't care about America's opposition. This is all a bluff.
Now, you might doubt Israel has the capability to destroy or at the very least set back Iran's capacity to build nukes. There are even some 'experts' that might agree with you. I think this is foolish.
Diffused hardened bunkers, SAM missiles and the logistics involved certainly make the job more difficult than the raid on Osirak. But it is almost definitely not beyond the capabilities of the best Air Force in the Mideast, and perhaps the world.
No, there is little doubt Israel can get the job done. It won't be easy, but it's doable.
Of greater concern is the ramifications of such an attack.
What will the Iranian response be ?
Expect missile barrages on tiny Israel from Iran and her Hezbollah proxies.
Iran might very well attempt to block the Straits of Hormuz.
It's easy to see how such an attack could lead to a massive conflagration with the entire Mideast going up like a tinder-box.
The clock is ticking. Every day brings us closer to action having to be taken.
Considering the dire consequences that are likely to result from an attack on Iran, it's understandable why Israel and the USA have been delaying and trying to avoid this necessity. But make no mistake, Iran isn't going to be deterred by diplomacy or sanctions. There is no political solution, there is only a military one. And as dire as the consequences of such military action may be, they pale in comparison to the consequences of a nuclear Iran poised to destroy Israel.
The sooner it happens, the better.
Again, why did they eliminate Osirak and even Syria in 2007 without America's permission? They don't have the bunker busters that America possesses, or the air craft carriers, or the long range stealth bombers. Even if Israeli pilots are skilled it won't help them with Iran.
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Henry, you sound ecstatic at the thought of Israel not being able to destroy Iran's nuclear bomb program. You are obviously some white supremacist terrorist loving piece of shiite from StørmFrønt.
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And you did mean "terrorist loving" literally, Lisa! ;D
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Can you imagine what a wimp this guy is when you meet him in person?
I've seen your propaganda on youtube. You're not in a position to call anyone a wimp. You're a dwarf and Black Muslims must have gang raped you hundreds of times. Your, and I'll use the word Nazi-like, hatred for Blacks is obviously the result of being their wife. How many Black penises did they manage to fit in your anus?
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Henry, why are you saying that Israel's weapons are mostly bought from other countries? That's not true.
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That's it, Henry you little runt! You're out of here.
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Can you imagine what a wimp this guy is when you meet him in person?
I've seen your propaganda on youtube. You're not in a position to call anyone a wimp. You're a dwarf and Black Muslims must have gang raped you hundreds of times. Your, and I'll use the word Nazi-like, hatred for Blacks is obviously the result of being their wife. How many Black penises did they manage to fit in your anus?
How many can you stuff in your dirty mouth? You piece of crap... You talk like an ape...
Id align with Chaim and JTF against crap-talking losers like you Henry...
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That's it, Henry you little runt! You're out of here.
Kick this bum to the street... He should die a slow and painful death..
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Henry, you sound ecstatic at the thought of Israel not being able to destroy Iran's nuclear bomb program. You are obviously some white supremacist terrorist loving piece of shiite from StørmFrønt.
No I'm obviously a Nazi because I expose your lies. The Israeli military superiority myth has been debunked by your loss in the Lebanon war. The day it's proven that Iran has nuclear weapons I'll be back here to rub it in. :laugh:
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Can you imagine what a wimp this guy is when you meet him in person?
I've seen your propaganda on youtube. You're not in a position to call anyone a wimp. You're a dwarf and Black Muslims must have gang raped you hundreds of times. Your, and I'll use the word Nazi-like, hatred for Blacks is obviously the result of being their wife. How many Black penises did they manage to fit in your anus?
You have a one track mind is it from a personal experience? Your are wasting your breath talking cr-p like this here.
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I've seen your propaganda on youtube. You're not in a position to call anyone a wimp. You're a dwarf and Black Muslims must have gang raped you hundreds of times. Your, and I'll use the word Nazi-like, hatred for Blacks is obviously the result of being their wife. How many Black penises did they manage to fit in your anus?
Are you masturbating while typing this? Obviously.
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Henry, you sound ecstatic at the thought of Israel not being able to destroy Iran's nuclear bomb program. You are obviously some white supremacist terrorist loving piece of shiite from StørmFrønt.
No I'm obviously a Nazi because I expose your lies. The Israeli military superiority myth has been debunked by your loss in the Lebanon war. The day it's proven that Iran has nuclear weapons I'll be back here to rub it in. :laugh:
You are the only one who has lied repeatedly here. Your a neophyte and know nothing. Why do you think we should care about your position? You ask a stupid question and think it proves something. Israel will not engage Iran without making sure it will not upset relations with America. I don't think it is a wise plan because Obama is certainly not on our side. But I think Israel has their intelligence and will act on it in order to save Israeli lives.
I can't wait until henry is history...
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http://www.myartspace.com/blog/uploaded_images/72virgins-778865.jpg
72 virgins for Mr Ebel.
It is time to go Henry,72 virgins are ready.
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http://www.myartspace.com/blog/uploaded_images/72virgins-778865.jpg
72 virgins for Mr Ebel.
It is time to go Henry,72 virgins are ready.
:::D :::D :::D :::D
Very true, though.
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http://www.myartspace.com/blog/uploaded_images/72virgins-778865.jpg
72 virgins for Mr Ebel.
It is time to go Henry,72 virgins are ready.
I hope you put the order in for men and boys.... I would not want him to be disappointed!
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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_feBsYL4BOuo/SMuibm3o7_I/AAAAAAAAAyI/yUG7bVvTVVo/s400/12403.jpg
or this,one never know?
I like to be kind to Mr Ebel,poor man.
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I can guarantee you "Henry Ebel" is on his state's Megan's Law list.
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An unfair advantage ?
There's absolutely nothing unfair about it.
Do you think wars should only be waged by opponents with an equal quantity and quality of weapons ?
Israel has better weapons than the Iranians. BOO-FREAKIN-HOO.
When you start bragging about Israel having a superior military it should be understood that their weapons come from the west. Iran is on sanctions with America and no western nation will sell it weapons. Your bragging is illogical as any nation can buy weapons.
I don't see you complaining that the Persians and Arabs have 600 times more land and 100 times the population than Israel does. That's unfair, but that's life.
I don't see you complaining about 22 Arab nations that have been attacking Israel and clamoring for her destruction for 60+ years. That's unfair, but that's reality.
I don't see you complaining that Iran's leadership which has absolutely no claim to the Land of Israel has repeatedly sworn to wipe Israel off the map. Why would they want to do that ? Heck, the Iranians aren't even Arabs, so what's their dog in this fight ? It's the Jew hatred endemic in the Islamic world. That's unfair, but that's life.
Cry me a river about 'unfair'. LIFE ISN'T FAIR.
There's nothing unfair about a tiny beseiged nation surrounded by implacable enemies sworn to her destruction, developing and procuring the BEST weaponry and using it to fight off any and all existential threats.
This is not the subject of the debate. Israel can't eliminate the Iranian threat because they would have done it long ago if it were as easy as you say it is. Now explain why they didn't ask America to attack Osirak but now they act like America is stopping them? They've proven that they don't care about America's opposition. This is all a bluff.
Now, you might doubt Israel has the capability to destroy or at the very least set back Iran's capacity to build nukes. There are even some 'experts' that might agree with you. I think this is foolish.
Diffused hardened bunkers, SAM missiles and the logistics involved certainly make the job more difficult than the raid on Osirak. But it is almost definitely not beyond the capabilities of the best Air Force in the Mideast, and perhaps the world.
No, there is little doubt Israel can get the job done. It won't be easy, but it's doable.
Of greater concern is the ramifications of such an attack.
What will the Iranian response be ?
Expect missile barrages on tiny Israel from Iran and her Hezbollah proxies.
Iran might very well attempt to block the Straits of Hormuz.
It's easy to see how such an attack could lead to a massive conflagration with the entire Mideast going up like a tinder-box.
The clock is ticking. Every day brings us closer to action having to be taken.
Considering the dire consequences that are likely to result from an attack on Iran, it's understandable why Israel and the USA have been delaying and trying to avoid this necessity. But make no mistake, Iran isn't going to be deterred by diplomacy or sanctions. There is no political solution, there is only a military one. And as dire as the consequences of such military action may be, they pale in comparison to the consequences of a nuclear Iran poised to destroy Israel.
The sooner it happens, the better.
Again, why did they eliminate Osirak and even Syria in 2007 without America's permission? They don't have the bunker busters that America possesses, or the air craft carriers, or the long range stealth bombers. Even if Israeli pilots are skilled it won't help them with Iran.
I wasn't bragging about Israel's military, but YOU were whining about Israel having an 'unfair' advantage. Psssst, let me let you in on a little secret....that's the idea in warfare...to have the better weapons in order to WIN. Now I know that you think it's unfair that one side has better weapons (esp. when that side is Israel) but that's just too darned bad. Get used to it. You say any nation can buy weapons...but then you whine that Iran can't buy them. Who's being illogical ? By the way, Israel doesn't just buy weapons. From the best radar systems, avionics, Jericho missile, Ofek spy satellites, drones, Popeye AGM air to air/ground missiles, Merkava tank, Tavor assault rifle, drones, anti-missile technologies, etc etc etc Israel is on the cutting edge of developing and building the worlds most advanced armaments. You simply don't know what you're talking about when assessing Israel's capabilities.
My post explained some of the reasons why Israel (and America) hasn't destroyed Iran's nuclear ambitions to this point in time. You can choose to ignore these reasons and continue to believe that Israel can't do the job. You can believe that Israel can't reach Iran, and even if she does, doesn't have the equipment to get the job done. You can continue to believe that Israel is only bluffing and that the skill and determination of the IAF is immaterial.
In fact, it's good that you think this way.
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I'm a coward? I show my face all over the internet, and have shown my face to the public for 35 years.
Let's see you do the same: show us your real face and your real voice and your real name. If not, then you are a coward.
In 1981 when Israel destroyed Osirak, Israel was still semi-independent. Israel used to act independently here and there. Today, Israel's leaders never defy the U.S. - they even beg America for permission to build a few apartments in their own capital city of Jerusalem.
Yes, you're all cowards for labeling anyone who doesn't believe your lies as a Nazi. I don't have to show my face to not be a coward.
no, but you are a [censored]. i know I don't need proof of this because you are a dimwit who thinks he's a smarty pants...You can believe any delusion you want. Hate whomever you want. Believe the Arabs and Muslims are better than Jews and Israel and that Blacks will rule the world and invented everything good. You can walk around being all wise about it and stuff, but the fact remains you are the delusional [censored]...
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An unfair advantage ?
There's absolutely nothing unfair about it.
Do you think wars should only be waged by opponents with an equal quantity and quality of weapons ?
Israel has better weapons than the Iranians. BOO-FREAKIN-HOO.
When you start bragging about Israel having a superior military it should be understood that their weapons come from the west. Iran is on sanctions with America and no western nation will sell it weapons. Your bragging is illogical as any nation can buy weapons.
I don't see you complaining that the Persians and Arabs have 600 times more land and 100 times the population than Israel does. That's unfair, but that's life.
I don't see you complaining about 22 Arab nations that have been attacking Israel and clamoring for her destruction for 60+ years. That's unfair, but that's reality.
I don't see you complaining that Iran's leadership which has absolutely no claim to the Land of Israel has repeatedly sworn to wipe Israel off the map. Why would they want to do that ? Heck, the Iranians aren't even Arabs, so what's their dog in this fight ? It's the Jew hatred endemic in the Islamic world. That's unfair, but that's life.
Cry me a river about 'unfair'. LIFE ISN'T FAIR.
There's nothing unfair about a tiny beseiged nation surrounded by implacable enemies sworn to her destruction, developing and procuring the BEST weaponry and using it to fight off any and all existential threats.
This is not the subject of the debate. Israel can't eliminate the Iranian threat because they would have done it long ago if it were as easy as you say it is. Now explain why they didn't ask America to attack Osirak but now they act like America is stopping them? They've proven that they don't care about America's opposition. This is all a bluff.
Now, you might doubt Israel has the capability to destroy or at the very least set back Iran's capacity to build nukes. There are even some 'experts' that might agree with you. I think this is foolish.
Diffused hardened bunkers, SAM missiles and the logistics involved certainly make the job more difficult than the raid on Osirak. But it is almost definitely not beyond the capabilities of the best Air Force in the Mideast, and perhaps the world.
No, there is little doubt Israel can get the job done. It won't be easy, but it's doable.
Of greater concern is the ramifications of such an attack.
What will the Iranian response be ?
Expect missile barrages on tiny Israel from Iran and her Hezbollah proxies.
Iran might very well attempt to block the Straits of Hormuz.
It's easy to see how such an attack could lead to a massive conflagration with the entire Mideast going up like a tinder-box.
The clock is ticking. Every day brings us closer to action having to be taken.
Considering the dire consequences that are likely to result from an attack on Iran, it's understandable why Israel and the USA have been delaying and trying to avoid this necessity. But make no mistake, Iran isn't going to be deterred by diplomacy or sanctions. There is no political solution, there is only a military one. And as dire as the consequences of such military action may be, they pale in comparison to the consequences of a nuclear Iran poised to destroy Israel.
The sooner it happens, the better.
Again, why did they eliminate Osirak and even Syria in 2007 without America's permission? They don't have the bunker busters that America possesses, or the air craft carriers, or the long range stealth bombers. Even if Israeli pilots are skilled it won't help them with Iran.
I wasn't bragging about Israel's military, but YOU were whining about Israel having an 'unfair' advantage. Psssst, let me let you in on a little secret....that's the idea in warfare...to have the better weapons in order to WIN. Now I know that you think it's unfair that one side has better weapons (esp. when that side is Israel) but that's just too darned bad. Get used to it. You say any nation can buy weapons...but then you whine that Iran can't buy them. Who's being illogical ? By the way, Israel doesn't just buy weapons. From the best radar systems, avionics, Jericho missile, Ofek spy satellites, drones, Popeye AGM air to air/ground missiles, Merkava tank, Tavor assault rifle, drones, anti-missile technologies, etc etc etc Israel is on the cutting edge of developing and building the worlds most advanced armaments. You simply don't know what you're talking about when assessing Israel's capabilities.
My post explained some of the reasons why Israel (and America) hasn't destroyed Iran's nuclear ambitions to this point in time. You can choose to ignore these reasons and continue to believe that Israel can't do the job. You can believe that Israel can't reach Iran, and even if she does, doesn't have the equipment to get the job done. You can continue to believe that Israel is only bluffing and that the skill and determination of the IAF is immaterial.
In fact, it's good that you think this way.
The fact is that Israel only has to create a small amount of disruption in Iran and its most likely that the population itself will rear up and take the government down. Iran is a tinder box waiting for a small spark.
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Henry, you just gave yourself away an an anti-semite. I didn't have a problem with you till now. First you claimed that Israel didn't have the ability to stop Iran's Nuclear program. That is your opinion, which is fair enough. But now you say that Israel has an unfair advantage because they receive weapons from the United States. It seems to me, you're obviously on the side of Iran with a statement like that. Why would you care, if Israel used America's weapons to bomb Iran, when you're whole point was , they don't have the ability to do it.
I'm on the side of truth. Israel has an advantage because of the weapons they get from the west. Anyone that denies this is a liar.
yeh yeh yeh..whatever you say, [censored]!
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What's a matter Henry boy... low income job?
Henry might be Marbus...the teenage fag
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We oughta make Henry Boy crapp his pants and find out his street address. I'm sure some we've got some computer hounds with JTF.
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Show us your face, coward. No matter what you say, until you show us your face, your statements are all one big bluff.
Shut this forum down Ben Pesach. I've humiliated you and your mindless drones.
you've humilated yourself, [censored]...
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We oughta make Henry Boy crapp his pants and find out his street address. I'm sure some we've got some computer hounds with JTF.
Can someone do it? Lets give him some anxiety. hahahahahahahaha
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let's lock this thread..
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let's lock this thread..
Ill lock it... This has gone on too long...
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let's lock this thread..
I don't think its necessary this guy spilled his guts already and is starting to repeat himself. He is starting to sound like a broken record.