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BLACKSBURG, Va. -- gunman opened fire in a Virginia Tech dorm and then, two hours later, in a classroom across campus Monday, killing at least 32 people in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history, government officials told The Associated Press. The gunman was killed, bringing the death toll to 33.
Students complained that there were no public-address announcements or other warnings on campus after the first burst of gunfire. They said the first word they received from the university was an e-mail more than two hours into the rampage - around the time the gunman struck again.
"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said Virginia Tech president Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."
It was not immediately clear whether the gunman was shot by police or took his own life. Investigators offered no motive for the attack. The gunman's name was not immediately released, and it was not known if he was a student.
The shootings spread panic and confusion on campus. Witnesses reporting students jumping out the windows of a classroom building to escape the gunfire. SWAT team members with helmets, flak jackets and assault rifles swarmed over the campus. Students and faculty members carried out some of the wounded themselves, without waiting for ambulances to arrive.
The massacre took place at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7:15 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston, a coed dormitory that houses 895 people, and continuing at least two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building about a half-mile away, authorities said.
Police said they were still investigating the shooting at the dorm when they got word of gunfire at the classroom building.
Some students bitterly questioned why the gunman was able to strike a second time.
"What happened today this was ridiculous," student Jason Piatt told CNN. "While they send out that e-mail, 20 more people got killed."
Students and Laura Wedin, a student programs manager at Virginia Tech, said the first notification they got of the shootings came in an e-mail at 9:26 a.m., more than two hours after the first shooting.
The e-mail had few details. It said: "A shooting incident occurred at West Amber Johnston earlier this morning. Police are on the scene and are investigating." The message warned students to be cautious and contact police about anything suspicious.
Student Maurice Hiller said he went to a 9 a.m. class two buildings away from the engineering building, and no warnings were coming over the outdoor public address system on campus at the time.
Government officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they did not want to pre-empt an announcement by higher-ranking authorities, put the death toll at 31.
At least 26 people were being treated at three area hospitals for gunshot wounds and other injuries, authorities said. Their exact conditions were not disclosed, but at least one was sent to a trauma center and six were in surgery, authorities said.
Up until Monday, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, when George Hennard plowed his pickup truck into a Luby's Cafeteria and shot 23 people to death, then himself.
The massacre Monday took place almost eight years to the day after the Columbine High bloodbath near Littleton, Colo. On April 20, 1999, two teenagers killed 12 fellow students and a teacher before taking their own lives.
Previously, the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history was a rampage that took place in 1966 at the University of Texas at Austin, where Charles Whitman climbed the clock tower and opened fire with a rifle from the 28th-floor observation deck. He killed 16 people before he was shot to death by police.
Founded in 1872, Virginia Tech is nestled in the Blue Ridge Mountains of southwestern Virginia, about 160 miles west of Richmond. With more than 25,000 full-time students, it has the state's largest full-time student population. The school is best known for its engineering school and its powerhouse Hokies football team.
The rampage took place on a brisk spring day, with snow flurries swirling around the campus. The campus is centered around the Drill Field, a grassy field where military cadets - who now represent a fraction of the student body - once practiced. The dorm and the classroom building are on opposites sides of the Drill Field.
A gasp could be heard at a campus news conference when Virginia Tech Police Chief W.R. Flinchum said at least 20 people had been killed. Previously, only one person was thought to have been killed.
Investigators from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began marking and recovering the large number of shell casings and will trace the weapon used, authorities said.
A White House spokesman said President Bush was horrified by the rampage and offered his prayers to the victims and the people of Virginia.
"The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed," spokeswoman Dana Perino said
After the shootings, all entrances to the campus were closed, and classes were canceled through Tuesday. The university set up a meeting place for families to reunite with their children. It also made counselors available and planned an assembly for Tuesday at the basketball arena.
After the shooting began, students were told to stay inside away from the windows.
Aimee Kanode, a freshman from Martinsville, said the shooting happened on the fourth floor of West Ambler Johnston dormitory, one floor above her room. Kanode's resident assistant knocked on her door about 8 a.m. to notify students to stay put.
Police said there had been bomb threats on campus over the past two weeks by authorities but said they have not determined a link to the shootings.
It was second time in less than a year that the campus was closed because of a shooting.
Last August, the opening day of classes was canceled and the campus closed when an escaped jail inmate allegedly killed a hospital guard off campus and fled to the Tech area. A sheriff's deputy involved in the manhunt was killed on a trail just off campus. The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges.
NO PRAYERS IN SCHOOL LEAD TO DEGENERACY
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NO PRAYERS IN SCHOOL LEAD TO DEGENERACY
True, but I'm sure it's Jihad. Right now they're covering it up by saying he's 'Asian' and that it involved a GF. The truth will come out. It was a Muslim engineering student overcome by Sudden Jihad Syndrome.
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One word that comes to mind "MOSLEM". Dont you think a Moslem did it?
They say that an "Asian" did it. I'm thinking that it was a Paki.
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Yeah, but what kind of Asian. Paki, Indian, Korean, Malaysian, Chinese what is it? The media wont tell us right away. So this leads me to believe its a Moslem. I could be wrong.
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In this terrible world Asian could mean he's from Toronto or Vancouver. The sad thing is "Asian" is also used for Arab.....
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How about a Muslim from Indonesia or Malaysia?
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This horrible tragedy at Virginia Tech is an excellent reason why every citizen of the USA ought to carry a weapon. The minute this wacko started killing people, one of the other students could have blown him away...thereby saving a vast majority of those who died.
The liberal media will never get it though...when guns are restricted it's the criminals that have no problem getting those guns and still using them. It's the law abiding citizens that suffer under strict gun laws.
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Nowadays, "asian" is used as a politically-correct term for everything from pakistanis to japanese.
And yes, this is further proof that more people need to be armed. If even a few of those students were armed this wouldn't have happened. This guy obviously knew there was a "no gun" policy on Virginia Tech's campus and that's why he chose it as a target.
The liberal media does get it, they just promote policies that make the people weaker. The second amendment is possibly the biggest roadbock to a socialist dictatorship, which is what the liberal media wants. The instant that amendment is gone America is dead.
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If he is a Muslim ,how much you want to bet the media will not use this as the big factor?
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Re: "...I think a non-Jew should be able to live in Israel and get certain rights...."
A non-Jew does have certain rights if they live in Eretz Yisrael.
They have the right to be driven completely crazy by a bunch of Jewish meshugenahs!
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I think if you look at the first maps showing Greek/Roman conquest, the term Asia was everything East of what is Turkey. An example would be: http://www.infoplease.com/atlas/asia.html
But racially, I guess you'd be correct. The race stuff isn't particularly my forte.
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I may have to give up my username.
Some say he's an AngryKoreanManiac some say
he's an AngryChineseManiac.
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I may have to give up my username.
Some say he's an AngryKoreanManiac some say
he's an AngryChineseManiac.
;D ;D :D :D :D :D
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I may have to give up my username.
Some say he's an AngryKoreanManiac some say
he's an AngryChineseManiac.
That's funny - when I heard he was Asian - your user name did flash thru my mind ;) - another forum member I know said the same thing.
Just for a second though - we know it could never be such a sweet guy as yourself.
Keep your user name it's great!
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Keep your name he was Korean ;D :D
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The filthy korean swine was mad that his white girlfriend started messing around with a [censored] here is an article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=449073&in_page_id=1811&ct=5 has all their pics. Ah, the benefits of diversity.
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The filthy korean swine was mad that his white girlfriend started messing around with a schvartza here is an article:
I hope Fruit of They Loins doesn't see this, or he'll really go over the edge.
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The filthy korean swine was mad that his white girlfriend started messing around with a schvartza here is an article:
I hope Fruit of They Loins doesn't see this, or he'll really go over the edge.
I looked at the article, scrolled down to type but you beat me to it Lisa!!! Fruit may create his magnum opus as a result!!
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maybe i will send fruit a pm with a link to this thread :D
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OY VEY ???
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He and his kind are nothing more than invaders. What do you do with invaders? You get rid of them permanenty, by any means necessary.
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I wonder what his torments are in hell.
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He's probably feeling the pain that he caused to others.
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The filthy korean swine was mad that his white girlfriend started messing around with a schvartza here is an article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=449073&in_page_id=1811&ct=5 has all their pics. Ah, the benefits of diversity.
He died with the words 'Ismail Ax' written in red ink on the inside of one of his arms, leading to speculation that he may have been a Muslim. In Islamic lore, Ismail is a reference to the 'son of sacrifice'.
Some people said in another thread that this guy may have been a Muslim.
They were right, he did discover Islam.
This psycho decided to put a Jihad on V tech.
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My friend said that during the University speeches made by the President and the Student President etc. glorified Islam and Buddhism.... Of course it is offensive to say anything positive about Christianity. I'd like to ask JTF's Christian members to write their congressmen and tell them that YOU are offended by the continual pandering to the Muslims and every other Leftist Anti-American Lobby Groups...