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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Spectator on October 12, 2009, 01:20:16 PM
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It is a very honest and courageous move of Romanian leadership.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1254861900493
Romania on Thursday unveiled a monument in memory of some 300,000 Jews and Gypsies killed during the Holocaust in the country, which at times denied that the extermination even happened.
Romanian President Traian Basescu said it was Romania's duty to "recognize the genocide during World War II" and to honor the victims.
Basescu was joined by Holocaust survivors, both Jewish and Gypsies, and other leaders during the unveiling the €5 million (US$7.35 million) marble and concrete tomblike monument.
Romania today has only 6,000 Jews. The country's role in the Holocaust and the deportation of Jews were ignored by the Communists and minimized by subsequent governments after communism collapsed in 1989.
"This monument is full of symbolism. Hundreds of thousands were killed who would have contributed to the cultural and economic prosperity of Romania," said Rabbi Menachem HaCohen, Romania's chief rabbi.
Romanian authorities set up the Elie Wiesel International Commission on the Holocaust in Romania in 2003 after one ministry in the Social Democratic government denied there had been a Holocaust in Romania during World War II.
Some Romanians admire pro-Nazi Marshal Ion Antonescu, whose administration was responsible for the deaths. They see him as a hero who fought against the Soviet Union to recover Romanian territories.
"It is important that Romania acknowledges its past. It's not an easy past," said Radu Ioanid who has written several books on the Romanian Holocaust. "There are still people opposing this," he said.
Historians have documented several pogroms in Romania, including one in June 1941 in the northeastern city of Iasi, where up to 12,000 people are believed to have died as Romanian and German soldiers swept from house to house, killing Jews. Those who did not die were systematically beaten, put in cattle wagons in stifling heat and taken to a small town. Of the 120 people on the train, just 24 survived.
Other Romanian Jews were deported from Transylvania by Hungarian fascists to Nazi concentration camps. Part of Transylvania was controlled by Hungary during World War II.
Nobel Peace prize laureate Elie Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor who was deported to Auschwitz, called on Romanians not to forget their past.
"Passer-by, stop and remember," he said in a message read out. "In this wonderful country and in Trans-Dniester under the criminal regime of Antonescu, hundreds of thousands of Jews were persecuted and assassinated in bloody pogroms."
Critics say that Romanians are beginning to learn about the Holocaust.
"Romania has made great strides in recognizing the past, especially the government educational institutions," said Michelle Kelso, director of the Association for Dialogue and Civic Education. "However to win the hearts and the minds of people, there needs to be more education campaigns especially on the lessons of the Holocaust."
Director of the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington Sarah Broomfield called the unveiling of the monument "extraordinary."
"To watch a young democracy dealing with history that was ignored by the Communists is admirable," she said. "Now they can write their own history."
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Romanians always were famous about how to kiss a.ss
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Romanians always were famous about how to kiss a.ss
But who did they kiss to by this recognition? I don't think they'll get something in return, it seems a honest acknowledgement of the past sins. Of course it won't help the Holocoust victims but still it's better than nothing.
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Romanians always were famous about how to kiss a.ss
But who did they kiss to by this recognition? I don't think they'll get something in return, it seems a honest acknowledgement of the past sins. Of course it won't help the Holocoust victims but still it's better than nothing.
I know them very well. When the Turks attacked Europe, Romanians became their ally and they attacked Hungary with Turks in 1479. When Turks were fkced they made alliance with Russians and they kicked the Turks.
When Germany was the strongest country in Europe they made alliance with them, and they attacked Russia together. But when Russians fcked the Germans, Romanians left the Germans in trouble and joined to Russia. But when Russia lost the technology race against USA, Romanians joined to the American side.
I would never trust them. They murdered Jews together with Germans, that time they were really silent. They hate the Gypsies and Jews, especially the Gypsies, because Romania has the biggest Gypsy minority in Europe. White Israelite knows them well.
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Romanians always were famous about how to kiss a.ss
But who did they kiss to by this recognition? I don't think they'll get something in return, it seems a honest acknowledgement of the past sins. Of course it won't help the Holocoust victims but still it's better than nothing.
They do it for "nice" words.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Breadfield
1479
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What about the hundreds of thousands of Jews murdered in King Carol's own Shoah prior to WWII?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWQapxixbfk
They still have many fascists. Look, I'm just telling that don't trust them. They never were famous about their honor. Just look the Serbs. Interesting they defended Jews, and they never were traitors, like Romania.
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What about the hundreds of thousands of Jews murdered in King Carol's own Shoah prior to WWII?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Carol_I_of_Romania
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Maybe you are right PZ. You know them better. Still I think that was a positive move even it was for nice words, beacuse by doing that they'll surely get much less nice words about the crimes they have done.
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Maybe you are right PZ. You know them better. Still I think that was a positive move even it was for nice words, beacuse by doing that they'll surely get much less nice words about the crimes they have done.
Yes. It was positive, just don't trust them. Ahmadinejad also says that his atom program is peaceful, but we know that he'll use it against Israel. It is just politic, Romania is a very poor country right now. They are beggers.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWQapxixbfk
They still have many fascists. Look, I'm just telling that don't trust them. They never were famous about their honor. Just look the Serbs. Interesting they defended Jews, and they never were traitors, like Romania.
Yes, absolutely no comparison between them and Serbs. Serbs have never been traitors, on the contrary, they were betrayed.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWQapxixbfk
They still have many fascists. Look, I'm just telling that don't trust them. They never were famous about their honor. Just look the Serbs. Interesting they defended Jews, and they never were traitors, like Romania.
Yes, absolutely no comparison between them and Serbs. Serbs have never been traitors, on the contrary, they were betrayed.
I have Transylvanian Jewish line too, and my grandfather said that Romanians were really happy when Germans and Hungarians deported the Jews from Transylvania.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWQapxixbfk
They still have many fascists. Look, I'm just telling that don't trust them. They never were famous about their honor. Just look the Serbs. Interesting they defended Jews, and they never were traitors, like Romania.
Yes, absolutely no comparison between them and Serbs. Serbs have never been traitors, on the contrary, they were betrayed.
I have Transylvanian Jewish line too, and my grandfather said that Romanians were really happy when Germans and Hungarians deported the Jews from Transylvania.
Dirty pigs. But they were not the only such nation in WW2. There were even worse ones.
Today there are many Romanians work in Israel, sometimes I see them in my neighborhood.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWQapxixbfk
They still have many fascists. Look, I'm just telling that don't trust them. They never were famous about their honor. Just look the Serbs. Interesting they defended Jews, and they never were traitors, like Romania.
Yes, absolutely no comparison between them and Serbs. Serbs have never been traitors, on the contrary, they were betrayed.
I have Transylvanian Jewish line too, and my grandfather said that Romanians were really happy when Germans and Hungarians deported the Jews from Transylvania.
Dirty pigs. But they were not the only such nation in WW2. There were even worse ones.
Today there are many Romanians work in Israel, sometimes I see them in my neighborhood.
They clean hotels, I guess.
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In my neighborhood they care for the elderly. They look like Russians from province.
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Wrong King Carol. Might have been the II.
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Wrong King Carol. Might have been the II.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_II_of_Romania
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Guard
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In Romania, where the army and police killed hundreds of thousands of Jews on their own account, the government none the less jibbed at handing over Romanian Jews to the Nazis.
(Norman Davies, Europe: A History, Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1996. Page 1021)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_Odessa_massacre
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As I said they were never famous about their honor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zFXDtsX0Ko
Good video.
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
There are excepts too, but most of them are good. That's why I said 99% and not said that every.
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
There are excepts too, but most of them are good. That's why I said 99% and not said that every.
99% is to high of a number
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
There are excepts too, but most of them are good. That's why I said 99% and not said that every.
99% is to high of a number
Michael de Kovats, Charles Zágonyi, Julius Stahel, Alexander Asboth, Edward Teller, Eugene Wigner, John Neumann, Béla Bartók, Tom Lantos. Some famous Hungarians from USA. Most of them are good people.
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
There are excepts too, but most of them are good. That's why I said 99% and not said that every.
99% is to high of a number
Michael de Kovats, Charles Zágonyi, Julius Stahel, Alexander Asboth, Edward Teller, Eugene Wigner, John Neumann, Béla Bartók, Tom Lantos. Some famous Hungarians from USA. Most of them are good people.
Have you met them all?
No
So you cannot assume most are good
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
There are excepts too, but most of them are good. That's why I said 99% and not said that every.
99% is to high of a number
Michael de Kovats, Charles Zágonyi, Julius Stahel, Alexander Asboth, Edward Teller, Eugene Wigner, John Neumann, Béla Bartók, Tom Lantos. Some famous Hungarians from USA. Most of them are good people.
Have you met them all?
No
So you cannot assume most are good
The History
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
There are excepts too, but most of them are good. That's why I said 99% and not said that every.
99% is to high of a number
Michael de Kovats, Charles Zágonyi, Julius Stahel, Alexander Asboth, Edward Teller, Eugene Wigner, John Neumann, Béla Bartók, Tom Lantos. Some famous Hungarians from USA. Most of them are good people.
Have you met them all?
No
So you cannot assume most are good
The History
The history means nothing.
What are they like now
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
There are excepts too, but most of them are good. That's why I said 99% and not said that every.
99% is to high of a number
Michael de Kovats, Charles Zágonyi, Julius Stahel, Alexander Asboth, Edward Teller, Eugene Wigner, John Neumann, Béla Bartók, Tom Lantos. Some famous Hungarians from USA. Most of them are good people.
Have you met them all?
No
So you cannot assume most are good
The History
The history means nothing.
What are they like now
Charles Simonyi. American Hungarians are different, I know them and I know their history, they are not like the Hungarians in Hungary. The history means a lot.
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
There are excepts too, but most of them are good. That's why I said 99% and not said that every.
99% is to high of a number
Michael de Kovats, Charles Zágonyi, Julius Stahel, Alexander Asboth, Edward Teller, Eugene Wigner, John Neumann, Béla Bartók, Tom Lantos. Some famous Hungarians from USA. Most of them are good people.
Have you met them all?
No
So you cannot assume most are good
The History
The history means nothing.
What are they like now
Charles Simonyi. American Hungarians are different, I know them and I know their history, they are not like the Hungarians in Hungary.
You have not met all American Hungarians so you cannot say 99%
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
There are excepts too, but most of them are good. That's why I said 99% and not said that every.
99% is to high of a number
Michael de Kovats, Charles Zágonyi, Julius Stahel, Alexander Asboth, Edward Teller, Eugene Wigner, John Neumann, Béla Bartók, Tom Lantos. Some famous Hungarians from USA. Most of them are good people.
Have you met them all?
No
So you cannot assume most are good
The History
The history means nothing.
What are they like now
Charles Simonyi. American Hungarians are different, I know them and I know their history, they are not like the Hungarians in Hungary.
You have not met all American hungarians so you cannot say 99%
Well, it's like when we say that 99% of muslims are antisemitic. This 99% means that most of them are good.
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I must admit that I have only respect for Romanians... In my workplace I work with several, and my ultimate boss is a very nice Romanian gentleman. We have discussed many issues together and it seems to me that Romanians can be respectful of Jews and Judaism. He allows me to wear my kippah and tzittzits and doesn't complain about my beard... I must be grateful.
My experience is that most Romanians are good people..
In good times, and in your eyes maybe. The HISTORICAL FACTS SHOW OTHER. And I didn't say that all of them are garbage. BTW isn't your boss a Hungarian? The history shows their moral, I only wrote facts.
My highest level boss is Romanian, under him is my direct boss who is hungarian... Both are very kind to me and as a result I have a good impression of Romanians and Hungarians even though both have history which is not good for Jews. I don't know what it is like in those countries, just that they like to work in America.
Well the Hungarians of USA are wonderful people, 99% of them were antifascists and anti-communist too who immigrated there. And many of them have Jewish ancestry, they are different from an average Hungarian.
Where do you get 99% from
There are excepts too, but most of them are good. That's why I said 99% and not said that every.
99% is to high of a number
Michael de Kovats, Charles Zágonyi, Julius Stahel, Alexander Asboth, Edward Teller, Eugene Wigner, John Neumann, Béla Bartók, Tom Lantos. Some famous Hungarians from USA. Most of them are good people.
Have you met them all?
No
So you cannot assume most are good
The History
The history means nothing.
What are they like now
Charles Simonyi. American Hungarians are different, I know them and I know their history, they are not like the Hungarians in Hungary.
You have not met all American hungarians so you cannot say 99%
Well, it's like when we say that 99% of muslims are antisemitic. This 99% means that most of them are good.
That is not how is will read to guest.
They will think all of them are good people.
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Well I used 99% as a symbol number, and I was speaking about the majority. I don't think that people will think that all of them are good. Because there are excepts too, like in every nations. :)
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Just because there are some good Romanians and Romania wasn't quite as bad as Nazi Germany doesn't make Romania a righteous nation by any means. Come on--the primitive savages of this nation actually believe vampires exist. The number of European nations that did not actively partake in the Final Solution in some form can be counted on a couple of fingers--Serbia and perhaps Denmark.
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Just because there are some good Romanians and Romania wasn't quite as bad as Nazi Germany doesn't make Romania a righteous nation by any means. Come on--the primitive savages of this nation actually believe vampires exist. The number of European nations that did not actively partake in the Final Solution in some form can be counted on a couple of fingers--Serbia and perhaps Denmark.
You do know the story of Vlad the Impaler, don't you? That is why they believe in Vampires..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_impaler
Vlad III, Prince of Wallachia, more commonly known as Vlad the Impaler (in Romanian Vlad Ţepeş pronounced [ˈvlad ˈt͡sepeʃ]), or simply Dracula (c.1431 – December, 1476), was a Wallachian (present-day southern Romania) voivode. His first reign as crown prince took place at age 17, during the same year of his release from Turkish captivity, in 1448. His main reign took place in 1456 and ended in 1462. His final reign was accomplished with the aid of the Hungarian throne in 1476 and he ruled until his assassination months later within the same year. Vlad the Impaler is known for the exceedingly cruel punishment he imposed as ruler of Wallachia; however, the people of Romania refer to Vlad as a savior to their nation and continue to justify his method of torture as not uncommon for that period in history.[1]
In the English-speaking world, Vlad III is perhaps most commonly known for inspiring the name of the vampire in Bram Stoker's 1897 novel Dracula.[2]
As prince, Vlad maintained an independent policy in relation to the Ottoman Empire[3] and was a defender of Wallachia against Ottoman expansionism.
PS: One of my Romanian co-workers dresses as Dracula every Halloween...
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Vlad was a nothing. He was a legend, not an important person in the history.
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Vlad was a nothing. He was a legend, not an important person in the history.
That is your opinion
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From the same wiki:
Romanian folklore and poetry, on the other hand, paints Vlad Ţepeş as a hero. His favorite weapon being the stake, coupled with his reputation in his native country as a man who stood up to both foreign and domestic enemies, gives him the virtual opposite symbolism of Stoker's vampire. In Romania, he is considered one of the greatest leaders in the country's history, and was voted one of "100 Greatest Romanians" in the "Mari Români" television series aired in 2006.
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Vlad was a nothing. He was a legend, not an important person in the history.
That is your opinion
It's the history's opinion. He did nothing against Turks, maybe won some minor battles, but nothing more.
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Vlad was a nothing. He was a legend, not an important person in the history.
That is your opinion
It's the history's opinion. He did nothing against Turks, maybe won some minor battles, but nothing more.
Sure
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By the way, this video explains the history of where Romanians come from, they are descendents of the Romans who conquered the Dacian tribes. Not gypsies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AONAtnbbMLU
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What Jew could feel safe living in any country in Europe (Holocaust memorials notwithstanding)? They murdered us once, they'll murder us twice. Let another little man with mustache show up and the party's over.
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In my neighborhood they care for the elderly. They look like Russians from province.
Then those aren't really Romanians, Romanians do not look anything like Russians with the exception of those near the Ukranian border that possibly mixed. Most Romanians are darker than your average European and look pretty similar to any other Latin person (like the Spanish, Italian, French). Romanians are not ethnically Slavic but they carry some Slavic tradition in their music and dance/food while adapting a Latin language.
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I didn't mean racial features. Rather, I meant dressing, manners and behavior. Perhaps, those I saw were indeed from Moldova, or maybe socialism was the common experience that had similar influence on both nations.