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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: americankahanist on October 13, 2009, 06:03:30 PM
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I had all of NYC that I could take. Not only did we have ever escalating property and sales tax, but also water tax moving higher at a rate, far passed that of inflation, and I wont even mention Con Edison always asking for rate hikes. And for what?? Welfare? Exaggerated city pensions? Endless make work highway/bridge construction projects, on every single artery, that never make the roads any better since they just move up the road to tie up traffic there, when the current endless project is finally completed? A mayor that not only bought his way into the executive sport but over ruled the people when they said 2 terms is enough? Third worlders everywhere?
Its all of that, and I dont see any of this out west. Want to carry a gun? No problem. Want a big house? Its cheap. Want small property taxes? We have that too. Want nice weather? We have well over 300 days of sunshine and a winter that is just 2 months long. As October moves on and NY awaits its first frost, we are waiting for temperatures to be back in the 80's with low humidity. Thats coming this weekend. Meanwhile its in the high 60's.
Want to see conservatives every where? They are all over, some almost as hard right as I am. The only liberals I have met were a Jewish couple formerly from NYC. The wife missed the diversity. She misses being raped by two 4'2'' Mexicans?????
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It's great to hear that your move out west is working out well. I can't see how places like New York can expect to remain viable for much longer with the cost of everything going up in leaps and bounds. If I was a few years younger or going into retirement soon a move out west might be just the right thing. For now I will have to suffer along here in New York. The time is not right to sell and relocate and the job market is not exactly the greatest. The weather there sounds made to order. With winter here just around the corner the warm weather you speak of sounds great. Enjoy!!!
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Sounds like you and Ashe Dina are very happy out there. Good for the two of you!
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I guess no more Chaim and David videos... :'(
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It's good to hear from you. I know your quite the cowboy though don't you think you should have moved to Israel instead? Course I would imagine that liberal woman shouldn't be unhappy because there are probably more 4 foot 2 Mexicans that would probably rape her out there lol.
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I guess no more Chaim and David videos... :'(
Good grief. Like we don't have technology to make that happen.
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Oh, you're David Ben Moshe. Cheers.
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Oh a place like that sounds like something that can't possibly exist. Right wing people all around?
No rap noise blasting from cars, carrying a gun?
Wish you the best.
Hopefully after my college days I can live somewhere like that if such places exist by then.
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Oh a place like that sounds like something that can't possibly exist. Right wing people all around?
No rap noise blasting from cars, carrying a gun?
Wish you the best.
Hopefully after my college days I can live somewhere like that if such places exist by then.
Yeah I am sick of Atlanta myself.
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Oh a place like that sounds like something that can't possibly exist. Right wing people all around?
No rap noise blasting from cars, carrying a gun?
Wish you the best.
Hopefully after my college days I can live somewhere like that if such places exist by then.
Yeah I am sick of Atlanta myself.
Atlanta turned into a rough town.
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Oh a place like that sounds like something that can't possibly exist. Right wing people all around?
No rap noise blasting from cars, carrying a gun?
Wish you the best.
Hopefully after my college days I can live somewhere like that if such places exist by then.
Yeah I am sick of Atlanta myself.
Atlanta turned into a rough town.
No one calls it Atlanta they call it Hotlanta or the ATL
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I had all of NYC that I could take. Not only did we have ever escalating property and sales tax, but also water tax moving higher at a rate, far passed that of inflation, and I wont even mention Con Edison always asking for rate hikes. And for what?? Welfare? Exaggerated city pensions? Endless make work highway/bridge construction projects, on every single artery, that never make the roads any better since they just move up the road to tie up traffic there, when the current endless project is finally completed? A mayor that not only bought his way into the executive sport but over ruled the people when they said 2 terms is enough? Third worlders everywhere?
Its all of that, and I dont see any of this out west. Want to carry a gun? No problem. Want a big house? Its cheap. Want small property taxes? We have that too. Want nice weather? We have well over 300 days of sunshine and a winter that is just 2 months long. As October moves on and NY awaits its first frost, we are waiting for temperatures to be back in the 80's with low humidity. Thats coming this weekend. Meanwhile its in the high 60's.
Want to see conservatives every where? They are all over, some almost as hard right as I am. The only liberals I have met were a Jewish couple formerly from NYC. The wife missed the diversity. She misses being raped by two 4'2'' Mexicans?????
What state are you currently in, David?
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Oh a place like that sounds like something that can't possibly exist. Right wing people all around?
No rap noise blasting from cars, carrying a gun?
Wish you the best.
Hopefully after my college days I can live somewhere like that if such places exist by then.
Yeah I am sick of Atlanta myself.
Atlanta turned into a rough town.
And it's actually coming out into the suburbs.
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Oh a place like that sounds like something that can't possibly exist. Right wing people all around?
No rap noise blasting from cars, carrying a gun?
Wish you the best.
Hopefully after my college days I can live somewhere like that if such places exist by then.
Yeah I am sick of Atlanta myself.
Atlanta turned into a rough town.
No one calls it Atlanta they call it Hotlanta or the ATL
Some years back I was traveling between Columbia South Carolina and Warm Springs Georgia. I landed in Columbia late and started looking for a hotel room about 50 or so miles outside of Atlanta. I went into a Days in and the black lady there told me she had no rooms however I should go to the Hampton's Inn at the next exit and stay there. She told me to avoid going into Atlanta at night!! She said go in the day tomorrow if you want but do not go tonight. Every now and then I think of her and I say a G-d bless for her concern. I knew Atlanta had problems but I was not aware back then that they were so bad.
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בס''ד
There's just one problem: for a lifelong New Yorker, moving to a relatively small city out West can be very boring. Yes, you will have more peace and quiet, but after a while it's too peaceful and too quiet.
There are many terrible things in New York, but at least it's not boring. I have been to many other places, and they are boring by comparison.
Incidentally, one place that is even more exciting than New York is Israel. (If you speak Hebrew.)
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Oh a place like that sounds like something that can't possibly exist. Right wing people all around?
No rap noise blasting from cars, carrying a gun?
Wish you the best.
Hopefully after my college days I can live somewhere like that if such places exist by then.
Yeah I am sick of Atlanta myself.
Atlanta turned into a rough town.
No one calls it Atlanta they call it Hotlanta or the ATL
Some years back I was traveling between Columbia South Carolina and Warm Springs Georgia. I landed in Columbia late and started looking for a hotel room about 50 or so miles outside of Atlanta. I went into a Days in and the black lady there told me she had no rooms however I should go to the Hampton's Inn at the next exit and stay there. She told me to avoid going into Atlanta at night!! She said go in the day tomorrow if you want but do not go tonight. Every now and then I think of her and I say a G-d bless for her concern. I knew Atlanta had problems but I was not aware back then that they were so bad.
I know. God bless her!!!! Funny thing. I used to live in Cola Sc and it wasn't as bad even though it had a lot of blacks though they weren't as bad as the one's in ATL.
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Just one question are there any Jews where you live??
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בס''ד
There's just one problem: for a lifelong New Yorker, moving to a relatively small city out West can be very boring. Yes, you will have more peace and quiet, but after a while it's too peaceful and too quiet.
There are many terrible things in New York, but at least it's not boring. I have been to many other places, and they are boring by comparison.
Incidentally, one place that is even more exciting than New York is Israel. (If you speak Hebrew.)
Take it from a former New Yorker, peace and quiet is alot better than crime, crowding, congestion, filth and high taxes.
What can you do in New York that you can't do out west ?
I doubt David is going to miss going to those Broadway plays, shopping on 5th Ave and eating at those exclusive restaurants.
Trust me, about the only thing he's going to miss is a good slice of pizza or a bagel.
Whatever minor inconveniences one might experience living in a smaller city out west is more than compensated for by the overall quality of life.
I cherish my memories of growing up in Brooklyn. Wouldn't trade them for the world.
But that was a long, long time ago, in a different city than the one that exists today.
New York City is a great place....to be from !
David, best of luck to you and AD.
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Even though I do not know you personally- I wish the Best of Luck to you and Ash Dina. And congratulations on your move and new home.
Aces High
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Where is west? Wyoming? Where are the Jews in Wyoming?
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I would rather not say at this time but its the ol' south west. As for Jews here, I met 2 of them, a moderate and a liberal, who misses diversity. At the local community center there are quite a few Jewish names that I see on the membership list. In this part of the state, there are very few cucarachas and the 3 blacks that I have seen spoke perfect English. Is this utopia??
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I would rather not say at this time but its the ol' south west. As for Jews here, I met 2 of them, a moderate and a liberal, who misses diversity. At the local community center there are quite a few Jewish names that I see on the membership list. In this part of the state, there are very few cucarachas and the 3 blacks that I have seen spoke perfect English. Is this utopia??
Actually if it is where I think you are (Arizona, New Mexico or West Texas)...very pretty area I hear....
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I glad to hear you and Ahedina are doing well, and don't have any regrets about leaving the Big Rotten Apple!
We'll miss you at our JTFers meetings, and all the contributions you guys made, will no doubt be missed.
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בס''ד
There's just one problem: for a lifelong New Yorker, moving to a relatively small city out West can be very boring. Yes, you will have more peace and quiet, but after a while it's too peaceful and too quiet.
There are many terrible things in New York, but at least it's not boring. I have been to many other places, and they are boring by comparison.
Incidentally, one place that is even more exciting than New York is Israel. (If you speak Hebrew.)
Oh good gracious Chaim---- :P
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Hi Paulette, have you been to the Grand Canyon yet?
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Arizona and NM are great places, even with the vast number of illegals. Would like to move there someday.
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I hope you'll both be very happy in your new home! :)
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בס''ד
There's just one problem: for a lifelong New Yorker, moving to a relatively small city out West can be very boring. Yes, you will have more peace and quiet, but after a while it's too peaceful and too quiet.
There are many terrible things in New York, but at least it's not boring. I have been to many other places, and they are boring by comparison.
Incidentally, one place that is even more exciting than New York is Israel. (If you speak Hebrew.)
Oh good gracious Chaim---- :P
I agree with Chaim. I actually miss living in Queens.
I have since the day we left. I miss all the things we could do when we lived there. From where I live now, everything is a long drive away.
Queens wasn't perfect, but there are some strange cookies out where I live. We joke that they are the 'pod people', from invasion of the body snatchers.
I will miss knowing that you guys are in N.Y., especially at JTF get together time. May God bless you and keep you safe as you start this new part of your life. I'm glad to know that you are happy.
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I agree with Chaim. I actually miss living in Queens.
I have since the day we left. I miss all the things we could do when we lived there.
With the exception of a couple of neighborhoods, I hate Queens.
I would rather live in a "boring" area than a place full of savages.
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I agree with Chaim. I actually miss living in Queens.
I have since the day we left. I miss all the things we could do when we lived there.
With the exception of a couple of neighborhoods, I hate Queens.
I would rather live in a "boring" area than a place full of savages.
I agree I rather live in the woods
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Things to do in Oregon...
It isn't boring out here....
http://www.traveloregon.com/ (http://www.traveloregon.com/)
Here is a blog of the best places out here...
http://blog.traveloregon.com/2009/10/08/keep-up-with-oregons-fall-foliage/ (http://blog.traveloregon.com/2009/10/08/keep-up-with-oregons-fall-foliage/)
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The North Bay area is a very beautiful place. We have a great climate too...
I would be really happy if there were some more Right Wingers in the San Francisco bay area...
;D
(http://fleetofworlds.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/sf_from_marin_highlands3.jpg)
(http://www.sothebyshomes.com/neighborhood/145.jpg)
(http://www.sunnyfortuna.com/explore/images/aveofgiants3.jpg)
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בס''ד
Everyone has their own taste and their own opinions. I respect people who just want peace and quiet in a small town or small city.
But I would be bored. I am the big city type. Except in Israel, where there is so much action that even small communities are exciting.
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The North Bay area is a very beautiful place. We have a great climate too...
I would be really happy if there were some more Right Wingers in the San Francisco bay area...
;D
Unfortunately it seems to be the San Francisco Gay area.
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Unfortunately it seems to be the San Francisco Gay area.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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בס''ד
Everyone has their own taste and their own opinions. I respect people who just want peace and quiet in a small town or small city.
But I would be bored. I am the big city type. Except in Israel, where there is so much action that even small communities are exciting.
I agree with Chaim..Either NY or LA for me.
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The North Bay area is a very beautiful place. We have a great climate too...
I would be really happy if there were some more Right Wingers in the San Francisco bay area...
;D
Unfortunately it seems to be the San Francisco Gay area.
Well I don't live in San Francisco... And there are not gays around me, mostly mexicans... But that is the way it is around most of the west these days.
There is no doubt that this area is one of the most scenic and most peaceful places in America. I have lived in NY, CT, and in Los Angeles {Marina Del Rey and Venice Beach}, and Long Beach {Belmont Shores}... Of them all I am most happy where I live near Napa valley. The air is clean, unlike in Los Angeles. The temperatures here are more moderate {not sunny all the time} which I like {having grown up in CT}.
There are many gays in NY also... So to claim that as the only negative is kinda hypocritical. True SF has the gay reputation... But I believe NY has gay marriage and here in CA we don't have it...
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I live out in the boondocks now, but the huge city is not too far away.
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I agree with Chaim. I actually miss living in Queens.
I have since the day we left. I miss all the things we could do when we lived there.
With the exception of a couple of neighborhoods, I hate Queens.
I would rather live in a "boring" area than a place full of savages.
I lived in Queens all my life, and the neighborhoods I grew up in.. Now are HELLHOLES.. I wouldn't mind packing my bags some days and get the hell out of this crazy zoo city. But in all fairness, I rather we liberate our cities as well. And turn these metro areas ino a power house. And not have 3rd world filth ruin everything.
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Chaim is correct. Everyone is entitled to their choices. For me its being near family. No place is home unless family is close by. And I think for david ashe is like family too.
Of course the ideal place for all Jewish families should be Israel. Every Jew who's not living there should strive for ideal. Part of the journy first requires to learn Hebrew and passing it on to ones offspring.
Anyway if I didn't say it mu best wishes. Don't be a stranger with the rest of your jtf family here
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While its frosty in NYC and snowing a little upstate, we are in the high 70s here with no humidity. Low 80s tomorrow and Saturday, then back into mid to upper 70s for most of next week.
I dunn sold my 1947 house in Queens for well over 600K and bought a 2006 built house here with more than 2X the land and 2X the house square footage for quite a bit under 300K. My tax in Queens was 5K per year. Here, even with the Home Owners Assoc. fee, its 2500. We purchased the smallest house in an estate area where all of the other models come with almost 3000 square feet and 3 car garages. For my daily evening barbacueing, no need for propane tanks. The house has a gas line on one of the two back patios. :P
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One of the radio talk show hosts remarked on his show yesterday that the numbers show people leaving the tri-state area in record numbers. I live out on Long Island and the property tax is now twice what you were paying in Queens. The darn thing has tripled in 20 years. Don't ask me what I am getting in return for taxes like that because whatever it is besides picking up a pail of garbage each week and maintaining the road out front is a mystery to me. The school taxes actually use up most of the money. At one time living out here on Long Island was very pleasant and worth the extra taxes that no longer is the case. This morning I got into an argument with some sort of Hispanic in the food store because as I was going down the isle his little son backed into my path while father and son were admiring some toy on the cereal box shelf. I waited a moment and excused myself to pass. The parent thought I had the cart to close to Jr and made a remark. I said I stopped when the kid stepped back and waited a moment but I needed to get through. All they had to do was step forward and let me pass. The parent started an entire thing about if this and that happened how he was going to knock me on my a-s. I laughed at this a little (very little) and told him people like him didn't belong in this neighborhood which left him sort of speechless. The West is sounding better every day because nothing good is going on here in the east.
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my taxes are less than a thousand dollars.
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my taxes are less than a thousand dollars.
That is really good... I didn't mind until they started going pass the 6 thousand mark but now at 10 and climbing I am starting to feel like I am paying rent to live in my own house.
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sheesh....
my taxes are less than a thousand dollars.
That is really good... I didn't mind until they started going pass the 6 thousand mark but now at 10 and climbing I am starting to feel like I am paying rent to live in my own house.
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One of the radio talk show hosts remarked on his show yesterday that the numbers show people leaving the tri-state area in record numbers. I live out on Long Island and the property tax is now twice what you were paying in Queens. The darn thing has tripled in 20 years. Don't ask me what I am getting in return for taxes like that because whatever it is besides picking up a pail of garbage each week and maintaining the road out front is a mystery to me. The school taxes actually use up most of the money. At one time living out here on Long Island was very pleasant and worth the extra taxes that no longer is the case. This morning I got into an argument with some sort of Hispanic in the food store because as I was going down the isle his little son backed into my path while father and son were admiring some toy on the cereal box shelf. I waited a moment and excused myself to pass. The parent thought I had the cart to close to Jr and made a remark. I said I stopped when the kid stepped back and waited a moment but I needed to get through. All they had to do was step forward and let me pass. The parent started an entire thing about if this and that happened how he was going to knock me on my a-s. I laughed at this a little (very little) and told him people like him didn't belong in this neighborhood which left him sort of speechless. The West is sounding better every day because nothing good is going on here in the east.
What kind of neighborhood do you live in? :P :::D
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One of the radio talk show hosts remarked on his show yesterday that the numbers show people leaving the tri-state area in record numbers. I live out on Long Island and the property tax is now twice what you were paying in Queens. The darn thing has tripled in 20 years. Don't ask me what I am getting in return for taxes like that because whatever it is besides picking up a pail of garbage each week and maintaining the road out front is a mystery to me. The school taxes actually use up most of the money. At one time living out here on Long Island was very pleasant and worth the extra taxes that no longer is the case. This morning I got into an argument with some sort of Hispanic in the food store because as I was going down the isle his little son backed into my path while father and son were admiring some toy on the cereal box shelf. I waited a moment and excused myself to pass. The parent thought I had the cart to close to Jr and made a remark. I said I stopped when the kid stepped back and waited a moment but I needed to get through. All they had to do was step forward and let me pass. The parent started an entire thing about if this and that happened how he was going to knock me on my a-s. I laughed at this a little (very little) and told him people like him didn't belong in this neighborhood which left him sort of speechless. The West is sounding better every day because nothing good is going on here in the east.
Wow I shop sometimes in Long Island and it has always been a pleasant experience. What town was the supermarket in?
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David and Ashe Dina I'm glad that your move to the Southwest has been a major upgrade over what NYC provided. You both deserve the best!
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One of the radio talk show hosts remarked on his show yesterday that the numbers show people leaving the tri-state area in record numbers. I live out on Long Island and the property tax is now twice what you were paying in Queens. The darn thing has tripled in 20 years. Don't ask me what I am getting in return for taxes like that because whatever it is besides picking up a pail of garbage each week and maintaining the road out front is a mystery to me. The school taxes actually use up most of the money. At one time living out here on Long Island was very pleasant and worth the extra taxes that no longer is the case. This morning I got into an argument with some sort of Hispanic in the food store because as I was going down the isle his little son backed into my path while father and son were admiring some toy on the cereal box shelf. I waited a moment and excused myself to pass. The parent thought I had the cart to close to Jr and made a remark. I said I stopped when the kid stepped back and waited a moment but I needed to get through. All they had to do was step forward and let me pass. The parent started an entire thing about if this and that happened how he was going to knock me on my a-s. I laughed at this a little (very little) and told him people like him didn't belong in this neighborhood which left him sort of speechless. The West is sounding better every day because nothing good is going on here in the east.
What kind of neighborhood do you live in? :P :::D
I can understand where you're coming from CJD, I had many of those similar encounters while living in NYC.
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One of the radio talk show hosts remarked on his show yesterday that the numbers show people leaving the tri-state area in record numbers. I live out on Long Island and the property tax is now twice what you were paying in Queens. The darn thing has tripled in 20 years. Don't ask me what I am getting in return for taxes like that because whatever it is besides picking up a pail of garbage each week and maintaining the road out front is a mystery to me. The school taxes actually use up most of the money. At one time living out here on Long Island was very pleasant and worth the extra taxes that no longer is the case. This morning I got into an argument with some sort of Hispanic in the food store because as I was going down the isle his little son backed into my path while father and son were admiring some toy on the cereal box shelf. I waited a moment and excused myself to pass. The parent thought I had the cart to close to Jr and made a remark. I said I stopped when the kid stepped back and waited a moment but I needed to get through. All they had to do was step forward and let me pass. The parent started an entire thing about if this and that happened how he was going to knock me on my a-s. I laughed at this a little (very little) and told him people like him didn't belong in this neighborhood which left him sort of speechless. The West is sounding better every day because nothing good is going on here in the east.
What kind of neighborhood do you live in? :P :::D
:laugh: I don't know anymore... It actually use to be very nice here.... I use to be able to look all the way down one side of the block and have nice woods as far as the eye could see. Now its like a bad reproduction of Queens with houses every 60 feet. The neighbors that are coming in as of late are very strange also. Somewhere there must be a real estate office that all the Zebra couples in New York go to to find a house. The agent brings them all around here. The road coming into the subdivision looks like the escape route out of Mexico, Mexicans on foot Mexicans on PeeWee Herman bikes all complete with back packs and mapa. Sometimes I feel like I woke up in a bad Twilight Zone episode. I guess with the ghetto trash comes the ghetto mentality so I am sure the little thing I had in the store is the start of a trend. If the filthy animal thought he was going to brow beat some hick from the sticks he was barking up the wrong tree.
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One of the radio talk show hosts remarked on his show yesterday that the numbers show people leaving the tri-state area in record numbers. I live out on Long Island and the property tax is now twice what you were paying in Queens. The darn thing has tripled in 20 years. Don't ask me what I am getting in return for taxes like that because whatever it is besides picking up a pail of garbage each week and maintaining the road out front is a mystery to me. The school taxes actually use up most of the money. At one time living out here on Long Island was very pleasant and worth the extra taxes that no longer is the case. This morning I got into an argument with some sort of Hispanic in the food store because as I was going down the isle his little son backed into my path while father and son were admiring some toy on the cereal box shelf. I waited a moment and excused myself to pass. The parent thought I had the cart to close to Jr and made a remark. I said I stopped when the kid stepped back and waited a moment but I needed to get through. All they had to do was step forward and let me pass. The parent started an entire thing about if this and that happened how he was going to knock me on my a-s. I laughed at this a little (very little) and told him people like him didn't belong in this neighborhood which left him sort of speechless. The West is sounding better every day because nothing good is going on here in the east.
What kind of neighborhood do you live in? :P :::D
I can understand where you're coming from CJD, I had many of those similar encounters while living in NYC.
Like the saying goes You can run but you can't hide..... It was nice out here for a while but the evil element that destroyed the city has made its way out here... Very sad.