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Title: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Ulli on October 16, 2009, 12:00:33 PM
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http://archneur.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/66/10/1292
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Ulli on October 16, 2009, 12:01:45 PM
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Multiple Brain Abscesses Associated With Tongue Piercing

Moshe Yoel Herskovitz, MD; Dorit Goldsher, MD; Renato Finkelstein, MD; Yaron Bar-Lavi, MD; Marius Constantinescu, MD; Gregory Telman, MD

Arch Neurol. 2009;66(10):1292.    

Multiple Brain Abscesses Associated With Tongue Piercing

Moshe Yoel Herskovitz, MD; Dorit Goldsher, MD; Renato Finkelstein, MD; Yaron Bar-Lavi, MD; Marius Constantinescu, MD; Gregory Telman, MD

Arch Neurol. 2009;66(10):1292.

   
Since this article does not have an abstract, we have provided the first 150 words of the full text and any section headings.
   

A previously healthy 22-year-old man was referred to our institution by another hospital because of high fever, drowsiness, and multiple ring-enhancing lesions on brain computed tomography (CT). Medical history was unremarkable, except for a tongue piercing the patient had gotten 2 weeks earlier. On hospital admission, global aphasia and right hemiplegia were found. His temperature was 39°C, and his white blood cell count showed leukocytosis with a left shift. The patient was given empirical antibiotic treatment. Magnetic resonance imaging of the brain revealed 13 ring enhancement lesions with surrounding edema, with focal bleeding in some of them (Figure). Results of an extensive clinical and laboratory workup, including abdominal CT, transesophageal echocardiography, immunoelectrophoresis, complement levels, antinuclear antibody test, human immunodeficiency virus test, and sweat test for cystic fibrosis, were negative, . .
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Mishmaat on October 16, 2009, 12:16:03 PM
What the hell was he doing with a tongue ring? Was he a fag?
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: ProudAndZionist on October 16, 2009, 12:17:36 PM
Died ???

R.I.P
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Americanhero1 on October 16, 2009, 12:19:25 PM
What the hell was he doing with a tongue ring? Was he a fag?

It does not make you a fag if you have one.
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: ProudAndZionist on October 16, 2009, 12:19:53 PM
What the hell was he doing with a tongue ring? Was he a fag?

It does not make you a fag if you have one.

My cousin also has.
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 16, 2009, 12:19:59 PM
What the hell was he doing with a tongue ring? Was he a fag?
Not all people with body piercings are gay--some are just "alternative" or "punk".
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Mishmaat on October 16, 2009, 12:26:47 PM
I don't need edification about which group of losers decide to savagely mutilate their body.

The guy was an idiot. May he rest in peace though.
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Ulli on October 16, 2009, 12:36:31 PM
Now as I live in a greater city, I see here more people with piercings.

I myself have never thought about something like this or tattoos.

In prior times piercings and tattoos were a sign of belonging to the poor working class.
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: ag337 on October 16, 2009, 12:42:04 PM
What the hell was he doing with a tongue ring? Was he a fag?

It does not make you a fag if you have one.

AHero,

I agree with you.
The piercing is not an indication of his "sexual orientation".

No matter what, this is a tragedy....

And, may he Rest in Peace.....
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 16, 2009, 12:56:26 PM
Tongue rings are bad. Brain abcesses as a result of them?  Highly rare. However there is a risk of infection recession of teeth tooth loss and broken teeth
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 16, 2009, 01:01:54 PM
I should say also that piercings other than a single one in wach ear for females and maybe a teeny one on the nose. That and tatoos are highly ugly and disgusting. And very low class and dirty. I don't recommend it for a normal decent human being in particular our own young jtfers
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on October 16, 2009, 01:02:53 PM
Now as I live in a greater city, I see here more people with piercings.

I myself have never thought about something like this or tattoos.

In prior times piercings and tattoos were a sign of belonging to the poor working class.

How would they be a sign of the poor working class if you have to pay for piercings and tattoos.
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on October 16, 2009, 01:15:38 PM
I think its very cool to make yourself look like a fecking cow:

(http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imagesbull-20ring-20nose.jpg)


Putting holes in your body for no good reason is .... well, not good.
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Americanhero1 on October 16, 2009, 01:17:42 PM
I think its very cool to make yourself look like a fecking cow:

(http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imagesbull-20ring-20nose.jpg)


Putting holes in your body for no good reason is .... well, not good.


So that is where my door knocker went
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Ulli on October 16, 2009, 01:18:22 PM
Now as I live in a greater city, I see here more people with piercings.

I myself have never thought about something like this or tattoos.

In prior times piercings and tattoos were a sign of belonging to the poor working class.

How would they be a sign of the poor working class if you have to pay for piercings and tattoos.

Because they were the fashion of sailors and day laborers even until newer times.

If you wear the signs of a group you will be affiliated.
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: mord on October 16, 2009, 01:24:28 PM
Tongue piercing are o.k. for women i guess tattoos for men although i don't have any
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: muman613 on October 16, 2009, 01:26:01 PM
No Jew should ever get a Tattoo... It is an obvious violation of a commandment...

No Jewish man should ever get a piercing, unless for medical reasons... It is against Jewish law.
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Americanhero1 on October 16, 2009, 01:26:46 PM
No Jew should ever get a Tattoo... It is an obvious violation of a Mitzvot...

No Jewish man should ever get a piercing, unless for medical reasons... It is against Jewish law.


What medical reasons are there to get a piercing?
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: mord on October 16, 2009, 01:27:50 PM
No Jew should ever get a Tattoo... It is an obvious violation of a commandment...

No Jewish man should ever get a piercing, unless for medical reasons... It is against Jewish law.

I DON'T HAVE ONE BUT I KNOW MANY JEWS WHO DO HAVE TATTOOS
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: muman613 on October 16, 2009, 01:45:13 PM
No Jew should ever get a Tattoo... It is an obvious violation of a commandment...

No Jewish man should ever get a piercing, unless for medical reasons... It is against Jewish law.

I DON'T HAVE ONE BUT I KNOW MANY JEWS WHO DO HAVE TATTOOS

Yes, and it is still a violation of Torah, like Shabbat Desecration which many Jews do, and eating treif which many Jews do too...

Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: muman613 on October 16, 2009, 01:46:14 PM
No Jew should ever get a Tattoo... It is an obvious violation of a Mitzvot...

No Jewish man should ever get a piercing, unless for medical reasons... It is against Jewish law.


What medical reasons are there to get a piercing?

http://www.oztorah.com/2008/01/body-piercing-ask-the-rabbi/


Q. Does Judaism allow alterations to one’s skin, e.g. body piercing?

A. Tattooing is viewed negatively as its origins were idolatrous (Lev. 19:28; Maimonides, Hilchot Avodah Zarah 12:11), even though, technically speaking, it is banned only if done with indelible ink and in the form of writing (Makkot 3:6; Shulchan Aruch, Yoreh De’ah 180:1).

Cosmetic surgery raises the halachic issues of intentionally wounding oneself, risking infection, etc. Rabbinic responsa permit it for psychological or medical reasons (e.g. after an accident) but not for mere vanity, especially among males, unless the operation is common practice in the place concerned (see I. Jakobovits, “Jewish Medical Ethics”).

Piercing the ears was a mark of servitude in Biblical times (Ex. 21:6), yet ear- and nose-rings were often worn by women. For men to wear them would presumably infringe the prohibition against cross-dressing. The problem today is that some people insert rings in strange parts of their person as a mark of vanity or frivolity. Even if what is done is not likely to be hazardous to health, vanity or a sense of fun is no justification for immodesty ­- or for “meshugass”. The basic rule is that the body is the property of the Holy One, blessed is He, and its dignity must not be compromised or its integrity invaded. Instead of overdoing the preening of the body, one should work on one’s mind, heart and soul.

http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/piercing.html




Body piercing is not a new phenomena. The Bible makes reference to noserings and earrings. In recent years, this ancient art has experienced a revival, and is moving into the mainstream. While pierced ears have long been commonplace, a growing number of people now the pierce noses, navels, nipples, tongues, and even genitalia. What does Halacha have to say about body piercing? (Space limitations preclude discussing other Halachic issues such as honoring parents, concerns about the safety of certain piercing procedures, or a discussion of tattooing, which is specifically prohibited by the Bible).

Jewish law prohibits one from hitting and wounding others. The Talmud (Baba Kama 91b) records a debate whether it is permitted for someone to wound himself. The great majority of medieval authorities accept the opinion that self wounding is forbidden. (Shulchan Aruch Choshen Mishpat 420:31).

At first glance, this Halacha is perplexing. It seems reasonable to prohibit someone from injuring another person when she protests; that is an breach of another's fundamental rights. However, why would Halacha prohibit self wounding? Rabbi S.Z. Zevin answers (L'Or HaHalacha pages 318-338; cf. Minchat Hinnuch 48) that man is not the master of his own body. God is the one who grants life, and maintains full rights to the human body. "The Lord gives and the Lord takes" is not a mere phrase, but rather a statement of fact: God owns man's body. Consequently, self inflicted wounds and suicide are forbidden, because the human body belongs to God, not man.

The prohibition against self wounding would seem to preclude body piercing. But it isn't that simple. Not all wounding is prohibited. If a doctor needs to operate on someone, the operation is permitted even though the doctor will wound the patient in the process. This is because wounding for therapeutic purposes is allowed. In evaluating the permissibility of body piercing, we must ask the following question: Is wounding for reasons of beauty is allowed?

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Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Abben on October 16, 2009, 01:56:41 PM
I think its very cool to make yourself look like a fecking cow:

(http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imagesbull-20ring-20nose.jpg)


Putting holes in your body for no good reason is .... well, not good.


That picture cannot be real? if so have a link
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on October 16, 2009, 02:12:13 PM
I think its very cool to make yourself look like a fecking cow:

(http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imagesbull-20ring-20nose.jpg)


Putting holes in your body for no good reason is .... well, not good.


That picture cannot be real? if so have a link

That is a link.
I don't own that picture.
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Americanhero1 on October 16, 2009, 02:20:08 PM
I think its very cool to make yourself look like a fecking cow:

(http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imagesbull-20ring-20nose.jpg)


Putting holes in your body for no good reason is .... well, not good.


That picture cannot be real? if so have a link

It is a real pic
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on October 16, 2009, 02:55:48 PM
I think its very cool to make yourself look like a fecking cow:

(http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imagesbull-20ring-20nose.jpg)


Putting holes in your body for no good reason is .... well, not good.


So that is where my door knocker went

So I guess people have to bang on your door real hard with there fist.   :::D
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Mishmaat on October 16, 2009, 03:02:29 PM
I should say also that piercings other than a single one in each ear for females and maybe a teeny one on the nose. That and tattoos are highly ugly and disgusting. And very low class and dirty. I don't recommend it for a normal decent human being in particular our own young jtfers

Quite true.
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: Mishmaat on October 16, 2009, 03:03:26 PM

(http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imagesbull-20ring-20nose.jpg)


What African tribe is a member of?
Title: Re: Young Israeli man dies after tongue piercing
Post by: cjd on October 16, 2009, 03:18:03 PM

(http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imagesbull-20ring-20nose.jpg)


What African tribe is a member of?
The filthy white animal tribe!