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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: G on November 01, 2009, 08:26:41 PM
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I know JTF advocates genocide against Muslims but do you advocate genocide against non-Muslim Arabs and non-Muslim Iranians?
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No one advocates genocide here
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No one advocates genocide here
Correct. We do not support genocide.
We completely respect non-Muslim Arabs and Pesians.
I even respect pro-West Muslims :usa: :soldier:
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Bonesfan, Masterwolf, Chaim Ben Pesach are veteran posters of your forum that have made statements indicating that they do. Just look it up.
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Bonesfan, Masterwolf, Chaim Ben Pesach are veteran posters of your forum that have made statements indicating that they do. Just look it up.
Post the links.
They said that the people who want to destroy Israel and the Jewish people should be killed.
Why did you join this forum?
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There is a non muslim Iranian on the forum, and there is a non Muslim, Christian Arab too. (Madmarv). :)
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Bonesfan, Masterwolf, Chaim Ben Pesach are veteran posters of your forum that have made statements indicating that they do. Just look it up.
Post the links.
They said that the people who want to destroy Israel and the Jewish people should be killed.
Why did you join this forum?
They said they consider them amalek, whatever that means, and that amalek should be destroyed.
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Bonesfan, Masterwolf, Chaim Ben Pesach are veteran posters of your forum that have made statements indicating that they do. Just look it up.
Post the links.
They said that the people who want to destroy Israel and the Jewish people should be killed.
Why did you join this forum?
They said they consider them amalek, whatever that means, and that amalek should be destroyed.
Look up what the word means if you do not know the meaning
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Looks like we have a troll here.
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No one advocates genocide here
Correct. We do not support genocide.
We completely respect non-Muslim Arabs and Pesians.
I even respect pro-West Muslims :usa: :soldier:
True.............
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Looks like we have a troll here.
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Not funny.
Learn to debate people
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Not funny.
Learn to debate people
Looks like we have a troll here.
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It's funny. And you won't never convince him.
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JTF wants the fifth columnist Arab Muslims out of Israel.
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No not funny at all.
Your immature
Not funny.
Learn to debate people
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It's funny. And you won't never convince him.
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No not funny at all.
Your immature
Not funny.
Learn to debate people
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It's funny. And you won't never convince him.
Are you talking to me, you robot?
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I'm a robot?
Funny coming from an immature kid
No not funny at all.
Your immature
Not funny.
Learn to debate people
Looks like we have a troll here.
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It's funny. And you won't never convince him.
Are you talking to me, you robot?
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I'm a robot?
Funny coming from an immature kid
No not funny at all.
Your immature
Not funny.
Learn to debate people
Looks like we have a troll here.
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(http://thatwoman.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/troll_spray.jpg)
It's funny. And you won't never convince him.
Are you talking to me, you robot?
I don't care with your provocation, lifeless. You are speaking about yourself. Spend less time on the internet.
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Go stalk more women you loser
I'm a robot?
Funny coming from an immature kid
No not funny at all.
Your immature
Not funny.
Learn to debate people
Looks like we have a troll here.
(http://www.jazztelia.com/myfiles/sibylla/258Troll_spray.jpg)
(http://thatwoman.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/troll_spray.jpg)
It's funny. And you won't never convince him.
Are you talking to me, you robot?
I don't care with your provocation lifeless. You are speaking about yourself. Spend less time on the internet.
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Go stalk more women you loser
I'm a robot?
Funny coming from an immature kid
No not funny at all.
Your immature
Not funny.
Learn to debate people
Looks like we have a troll here.
(http://www.jazztelia.com/myfiles/sibylla/258Troll_spray.jpg)
(http://thatwoman.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/troll_spray.jpg)
It's funny. And you won't never convince him.
Are you talking to me, you robot?
I don't care with your provocation lifeless. You are speaking about yourself. Spend less time on the internet.
Get a life. :laugh:
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You first
Go stalk more women you loser
I'm a robot?
Funny coming from an immature kid
No not funny at all.
Your immature
Not funny.
Learn to debate people
Looks like we have a troll here.
(http://www.jazztelia.com/myfiles/sibylla/258Troll_spray.jpg)
(http://thatwoman.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/troll_spray.jpg)
It's funny. And you won't never convince him.
Are you talking to me, you robot?
I don't care with your provocation lifeless. You are speaking about yourself. Spend less time on the internet.
Get a life. :laugh:
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Cool it off, you two!
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Cool it off, you two!
Excuse me, but who did start it? ::) I finished...
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Cool it off, you two!
Excuse me, but who did start it? ::) I finished...
You won't finish anything
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Looks like we have a troll here.
Read this. Then call me a troll. http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,37815.msg380520.html#msg380520
"I know for a fact that such Arabs exist because I have a friend of that sort."
Arabs are trained in the fine art of taqqiyah from childhood.
"I don't know if this represents 5, 10 or 30% of the Arab world."
Try maybe 1/1000th of 1%.
"It is impossible to know since as long as the savages control that world people are afraid to speak out."
Why are Arabs ferocious anti-Semites even when they live in free places like America and Europe?
"I don't have a problem telling them that they have to make a choice and that standing with the savages might get them killed by us but we need to do a better job of projecting strength so they are more afraid of us than they are of the savages."
The only language that savages understand is more brutality than they themselves can dish out.
"So you favor total indiscriminate killing of Arabs, men women, and children? Would you kill a newborn baby in the hospital? Would you build death camps for them? Have you really thought this through?"
Did you read that Bible verse that I gave you? I know that you are secular as indicated by your username, but do you really think that G-d would ever order innocent people killed? If G-d gave an order to wipe out Amalek wholesale, don't you think He knew that every last one of them had chosen evil or would choose evil when at the age of accountability? Do you think he would order people who He knew would repent later on killed?
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This is a troll who has a distorted world view. The Jewish people never called for Genocide against any people. The Jewish people have always believed that every person put on the planet has free will and is capable of deciding right from wrong. It is wrong for Arab muslims, and muslims in general, to call for the destruction of Israel, and the destruction of the Jewish people. I have only heard that we must know the enemy and not fear that we are doing the right thing. The arab israelis have been waging jihad and taqiya against the Jewish people for so long. The time has come to remove the arabs from the land of Israel, but not through genocide. A mass transfer of populations should occur, as occured in 1948 when all the Jews in arab states were evicted and none of the arab refugees were allowed into the arab states. Arabs need to go back to where they came from and just live with the Jewish nation, or else the Jewish nation will do what it needs to do to survive.
g, you are an arab sympathizer and as a result I believe you should be banned. We have nothing to talk about with you. You make excuses and moral equivalance with Israel and the Jewish nation... There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation, and only now have the arabs made up such an idea.
I hope you are banned soon..
PS: Some of my best Jewish friends are from Iran... there is nothing wrong with Iranian Jews... They are good Jews and good people.
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Looks like we have a troll here.
Read this. Then call me a troll. http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,37815.msg380520.html#msg380520
"I know for a fact that such Arabs exist because I have a friend of that sort."
Arabs are trained in the fine art of taqqiyah from childhood.
"I don't know if this represents 5, 10 or 30% of the Arab world."
Try maybe 1/1000th of 1%.
"It is impossible to know since as long as the savages control that world people are afraid to speak out."
Why are Arabs ferocious anti-Semites even when they live in free places like America and Europe?
"I don't have a problem telling them that they have to make a choice and that standing with the savages might get them killed by us but we need to do a better job of projecting strength so they are more afraid of us than they are of the savages."
The only language that savages understand is more brutality than they themselves can dish out.
"So you favor total indiscriminate killing of Arabs, men women, and children? Would you kill a newborn baby in the hospital? Would you build death camps for them? Have you really thought this through?"
Did you read that Bible verse that I gave you? I know that you are secular as indicated by your username, but do you really think that G-d would ever order innocent people killed? If G-d gave an order to wipe out Amalek wholesale, don't you think He knew that every last one of them had chosen evil or would choose evil when at the age of accountability? Do you think he would order people who He knew would repent later on killed?
That is no call to genocide.
You don't understand what you read. This is a call to protect efficiently against terrorists.
You live in a cloud.
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This is a troll who has a distorted world view. The Jewish people never called for Genocide against any people.
And I never stated Jews call for a genocide of anyone. I recall JTF labeling Muslims amalek as an excuse to commit a genocide against them
The Jewish people have always believed that every person put on the planet has free will and is capable of deciding right from wrong.
But I'm not talking about Jews. I'm talking about JTF.
It is wrong for Arab muslims, and muslims in general, to call for the destruction of Israel, and the destruction of the Jewish people.
I didn't say it was right either.
I have only heard that we must know the enemy and not fear that we are doing the right thing.
And my question was do you support a genocide against non-Muslim Arabs/Iranians because JTF's rhetoric indicates you do.
The arab israelis have been waging jihad and taqiya against the Jewish people for so long.
Most Israeli Arabs have not waged any of the above.
Arabs need to go back to where they came from and just live with the Jewish nation, or else the Jewish nation will do what it needs to do to survive.
Specifically what do you mean by "or else"?
g, you are an arab sympathizer and as a result I believe you should be banned
I'm no Arab sympathizer.
We have nothing to talk about with you. You make excuses and moral equivalance with Israel and the Jewish nation... There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation, and only now have the arabs made up such an idea.
I made no such excuses, you're lying. I asked a question. You've displayed your irrational fanaticism.
I hope you are banned soon..
Banned for asking a question? Please show me where in your rules it says someone should be banned for asking a question.
PS: Some of my best Jewish friends are from Iran... there is nothing wrong with Iranian Jews... They are good Jews and good people.
Allow me to clarify then. Do you believe a genocide should be committed against non-Jewish Arabs/Iranians?
Please read the above statement where one of your posters said they should all be killed.
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G,
I have not heard that JTF political position involves any genocide... Where do you get this from?
The issue of Amalek is open to interpretation. No Rabbi has proclaimed that Arabs are Amalek, and I do not believe that they are Amalek. As a matter of fact, standard Jewish belief is that Arabs are descended from Ishmael, who also was a wild man... We are not instructed to commit any genocide against arabs....
What you quoted is not any call to genocide. Any people who are Jew-haters from the bottom of their soul has a relationship with Amalek... The jews have historically not succeeded in carrying out the command to wipe out Amalek. There are rabbis who believe that the command to wipe out Amalek is actually, today, a command to fight against our own inner inclinations.
Surely you have not understood the goals of JTF. Rabbi Kahane laid out the plan for Jewish Israel. It involves moving the arabs out of Israel so that the Jews can live in peace in the Holy Land. We should not have to fear going to the holy sites because the arabs are throwing stones and firebombs.
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Genocide is Nazi & Muslim business, not ours.
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I should clarify one point. We should do to Jew haters what they want to do to us. That means if it were a non muslim from the middle east iran europe etc who was getting ready to physically kill us we should kill him first.
And if they just want to hate us then we should hate him too.
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I should clarify one point. We should do to Jew haters what they want to do to us. That means if it were a non muslim from the middle east iran europe etc who was getting ready to physically kill us we should kill him first.
And if they just want to hate us then we should hate him too.
This is a part of my creed.
In other words: Love your brethren unconditionally and for the rest it is measure for measure.
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I know JTF advocates genocide against Muslims but do you advocate genocide against non-Muslim Arabs and non-Muslim Iranians?
You know? You don't know anything. You just want to charge a group of people in a serious crime and you are searching "proofs".
Read this. Then call me a troll. http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,37815.msg380520.html#msg380520
So what? One member who is interested in Judaism is trying to clarify some aspect of Jewish law by debate. His purely theoretical assumptions are refuted by the members who know the Jewish law better. Based on this you charge the whole organization in advocating the genocide?
Your method of questioning is a failure from a logical point of view. Such approaches only work when people like you have unlimited power over those interrogated. You surely must be sorry that you were not born in times of Spanish Inquisition or Stalinist NKVD.
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G, you did not answer my question.
What do you believe about the Holocaust?
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Troll G is annoying this forum .... can Troll G shape up or ship out?