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Title: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: G on November 01, 2009, 08:41:46 PM
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Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Lisa on November 01, 2009, 08:50:15 PM
No.  We believe that those who kill Jews should be killed along with their helpers/supporters.   
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on November 01, 2009, 09:08:31 PM
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Do you approve with muslim genocide of infidels?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 01, 2009, 10:43:40 PM
TROLL ALERT!
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: G on November 01, 2009, 11:03:45 PM
TROLL ALERT!

Oh good it's you. Since you're the one making a good portion of all these statements how about being honest. Do you approve of a genocide against all Muslims?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on November 01, 2009, 11:34:08 PM
Just because you don't like Islam does not mean you have to kill everyone who follows that evil religion.  There are Muslims that are nice and who unfortunately are Muslims.   
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Secularbeliever on November 01, 2009, 11:47:23 PM
I had religious Pakistani neighbors for awhile.  They were extremely nice people.  I was not sure if they knew I am Jewish (never hid it or advertised it) but they knew we were not Muslims.  They watched after our dog when we were away, brought us fruits and vegetables from their relatives trees, etc.  Their followed our son around all the time.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Secularbeliever on November 01, 2009, 11:48:57 PM
Since nobody has called for genocide against Muslims why is this question even on the table?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 01, 2009, 11:56:59 PM
Oh good it's you. Since you're the one making a good portion of all these statements how about being honest. Do you approve of a genocide against all Muslims?
How about I ask you a question: do you believe the Holocaust happened?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 01, 2009, 11:59:04 PM
Just because you don't like Islam does not mean you have to kill everyone who follows that evil religion.  There are Muslims that are nice and who unfortunately are Muslims.
If that is true then they aren't sincere Muslims.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: G on November 02, 2009, 12:05:22 AM
Oh good it's you. Since you're the one making a good portion of all these statements how about being honest. Do you approve of a genocide against all Muslims?
How about I ask you a question: do you believe the Holocaust happened?

That's a strange question but of course it happened. I didn't say anything that implied that I thought it was a myth. I guess in your twisted mind if I confront your support for genocide it lowers me to your level? This is a question someone asked you and this was your reply:

"So you favor total indiscriminate killing of Arabs, men women, and children?  Would you kill a newborn baby in the hospital?  Would you build death camps for them?  Have you really thought this through?"

Did you read that Bible verse that I gave you? I know that you are secular as indicated by your username, but do you really think that G-d would ever order innocent people killed? If G-d gave an order to wipe out Amalek wholesale, don't you think He knew that every last one of them had chosen evil or would choose evil when at the age of accountability? Do you think he would order people who He knew would repent later on killed?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: G on November 02, 2009, 12:16:49 AM
You imply no Arab is innocent, all Arabs are amalek, every last one of them has chosen evil or will choose evil at maturity, and none of them are capable of repenting "their evil," and all of them should be exterminated like the Canaanites. This is proof that you support genocide of all Muslims. Admit it.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: CorrieDeservedIt on November 02, 2009, 12:21:36 AM
You imply no Arab is innocent, all Arabs are amalek, every last one of them has chosen evil or will choose evil at maturity, and none of them are capable of repenting "their evil," and all of them should be exterminated like the Canaanites. This is proof that you support genocide of all Muslims. Admit it.

not true but say if we did?

what the hell are you gonna do about it?

Screen shoot it and use it as your video "exposing" JTF? I mean seriously.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Mishmaat on November 02, 2009, 12:31:43 AM
Your points are all moot because the Messiah will ultimately accomplish the goal of wiping out Amalek.

I believe in the simple common sense logic of the Talmud:

"If someone comes to kill you, kill him first" (Sanhedrin 72a).
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Manch on November 02, 2009, 01:26:48 AM
Your points are all moot because the Messiah will ultimately accomplish the goal of wiping out Amalek.

I believe in the simple common sense logic of the Talmud:

"If someone comes to kill you, kill him first" (Sanhedrin 72a).
Good answer to a stupid left wing troll
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on November 02, 2009, 01:48:28 AM
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Why don't you answer my question?

Oh you're not going on muslim forums to ask the same questions anyway...

Get the hell out of here you coward homo troll.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: mord on November 02, 2009, 08:13:11 AM
Iranian fag troll
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 02, 2009, 08:15:02 AM
That's a strange question but of course it happened. I didn't say anything that implied that I thought it was a myth. I guess in your twisted mind if I confront your support for genocide it lowers me to your level? This is a question someone asked you and this was your reply:

"So you favor total indiscriminate killing of Arabs, men women, and children?  Would you kill a newborn baby in the hospital?  Would you build death camps for them?  Have you really thought this through?"

Did you read that Bible verse that I gave you? I know that you are secular as indicated by your username, but do you really think that G-d would ever order innocent people killed? If G-d gave an order to wipe out Amalek wholesale, don't you think He knew that every last one of them had chosen evil or would choose evil when at the age of accountability? Do you think he would order people who He knew would repent later on killed?
Oh really? Do you believe that six million Jews were systematically killed as a specific policy of Nazi Germany and most of occupied Europe, or that a smaller number died?

If you had a brain in your diseased Islamic head you would know that I was talking about Amalek in the Bible, not Muslims of today, with that passage you bring up.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 02, 2009, 08:58:51 AM
Genocide against people is satanic!
Serbs do not support genocide against people!
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on November 02, 2009, 09:09:47 AM

There's a genocide against Muslims?
Where do I sign up?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on November 02, 2009, 09:26:04 AM

There's a genocide against Muslims?
Where do I sign up?


Hi ChineseKahanist! Put my name on the list too, thanks    :  )


                               Shalom - Dox   
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 02, 2009, 09:36:14 AM
ha!


0- yes
13- no

Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: briann on November 02, 2009, 10:56:56 AM
No, this is a stupid thread.

Islamic idelogy should be bannished from the planet, and all its institutions should be made into parking lots, and the Korans should be made into compost.


Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Americanhero1 on November 02, 2009, 10:58:44 AM
No, this is a stupid thread.

Islamic idelogy should be bannished from the planet, and all its institutions should be made into parking lots, and the Korans should be made into compost.




That would punish the plants if the Quran is made into compost.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 02, 2009, 11:01:20 AM
No, this is a stupid thread.

Islamic idelogy should be bannished from the planet, and all its institutions should be made into parking lots, and the Korans should be made into compost.




That would punish the plants if the Quran is made into compost.

drop it off in Saturn
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Americanhero1 on November 02, 2009, 11:04:26 AM
No, this is a stupid thread.

Islamic idelogy should be bannished from the planet, and all its institutions should be made into parking lots, and the Korans should be made into compost.




That would punish the plants if the Quran is made into compost.

drop it off in Saturn

Line the floor of pig pens
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Hyades on November 02, 2009, 11:16:36 AM
No. A genocide is not a solution. But they should be sent back from Europe and the Americas, Australia etc. to their own countries where they can live their way of life and thus there would be less conflicts.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 02, 2009, 11:16:51 AM
Of course I don't support genocide against Muslims. Genocide is the part of Muslim tradition, not Jewish.

It is necessary to note that JTF being the most right-wing Jewish organization in the world, strongly condemns any idea of genocide on Muslims, while numerous Muslim organizations are eager to commit genocide on Jews. I want the troll G to explain this "paradox".
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on November 02, 2009, 12:02:51 PM
Of course I don't support genocide against Muslims. Genocide is the part of Muslim tradition, not Jewish.

It is necessary to note that JTF being the most right-wing Jewish organization in the world, strongly condemns any idea of genocide on Muslims, while numerous Muslim organizations are eager to commit genocide on Jews. I want the troll G to explain this "paradox".

I agree with you completely! Troll G should explain why he made such a crooked post. Speaking of crooked, the muslims have perfected the art of crookery! Could Troll G be a muslim?

Spectator you are correct, it is indeed the muslims who have genocide on their agenda and not the Jews.


                                                      Shalom - Dox      :  )

Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: G on November 02, 2009, 12:26:55 PM

Oh really? Do you believe that six million Jews were systematically killed as a specific policy of Nazi Germany and most of occupied Europe, or that a smaller number died?

Six million Jews were killed in the holocaust by the German Nazis.

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If you had a brain in your diseased Islamic head you would know that I was talking about Amalek in the Bible, not Muslims of today, with that passage you bring up.

I'm no Muslim and if you were not a lying, low-down, slimy rodent you'd admit you advocate this. Someone asked you if Arab men, women, and children should be extermianted and you answered that by saying God commands amalek to be exterminated. You were clearly implying that all Arab Muslims are Amalek.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 02, 2009, 12:36:17 PM
Of course I don't support genocide against Muslims. Genocide is the part of Muslim tradition, not Jewish.

You mean German tradition?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Americanhero1 on November 02, 2009, 12:37:38 PM
Of course I don't support genocide against Muslims. Genocide is the part of Muslim tradition, not Jewish.

You mean German tradition?


No he means Muslims.
Muslims are taught to kill or forcibly convert all non Muslims.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 02, 2009, 12:38:45 PM
He means Muslims??

What Muslim genocide does he mean?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Americanhero1 on November 02, 2009, 12:41:20 PM
He means Muslims??

What Muslim genocide does he mean?

The topic is about Muslims not Germans.
Muslims have committed genocide against black christians in Africa,against the Armenian people.
Muslims want to kill every single Jew in the world
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on November 02, 2009, 01:07:20 PM
Troll G, do you think you can fool us? I mean really!

You say you are not muslim yet your post indicates otherwise!

You muslims are a joke, you come on our forum and other forums
and you expect non muslims to believe your lies and propanganda.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 02, 2009, 02:21:42 PM
He means Muslims??

What Muslim genocide does he mean?

The topic is about Muslims not Germans.
Muslims have committed genocide against black christians in Africa,against the Armenian people.
Muslims want to kill every single Jew in the world

Why are you so outraged, SRP? Americanhero is right. And if you want some source in Muslim tradition regarding the Jews, here it is:

Hadith, Book 041, Number 6984:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.


Now I didn't say every Muslim would follow that. But many surely will if they have such opportunity. And the fact remains fact, it IS a part of Muslim tradition. There were Muslims here who I asked about this hadith, and they couldn't deny it.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Hyades on November 02, 2009, 02:46:20 PM
Of course I don't support genocide against Muslims. Genocide is the part of Muslim tradition, not Jewish.

You mean German tradition?


Well even having committed the world's worst genocide, it is not a "German tradition". Since it was ONE. Do you think a thing that happend ONCE is a tradition?
Muslims however have at least tried to carry out SEVERAL genocides: Armenian, Aramean, Baha'i, Jewish, Christian,... Look at the Muslim world it is in no way pluralistic. Most Muslim countries have tendencies to "clean up" their countries to wipe out any other belief. You hardly find 100% or even 90% and more Christian countries, while it is not difficult to find countries that are 99% and Muslim.
Dubai prefers Muslim over Hindu workers. Muslim workers have more rights than Hindu workers and it is easy by legislation to kick out a non-Muslim from these countries. The only non-Muslim minorities in most Muslim countries are foreigners who live there temporarily. This is due to persecution and many hidden genocides.
They do even massacre their own brothers in belief in Darfur for being black! This IS genocide. And Islam has a TRADITION of genocide as the Catholic Church had for a long time. All they conquered had to be cleansed or submitted. Islamo-Catholic fascism...
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 02, 2009, 02:59:29 PM
I am not outraged, just a little bit confused  :)

So you claim that the Muslims are responsible for the greatest genocides, which took place in the world? It that what you are saying? 
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 02, 2009, 03:02:20 PM
Muslims are murdering Christians, not the vise/versa. The genocide is against Christians.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 02, 2009, 03:05:08 PM
The majority of the crimes against Jews, was not carried out by Muslims.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Americanhero1 on November 02, 2009, 03:06:02 PM
The majority of the crimes against Jews, was not carried out by Muslims.


Who are has been carrying out the crimes against the Jews in the last 30+ years
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 02, 2009, 03:18:48 PM
Weak politicians who surrendered Israeli territory at the negotiation table and compromised on Israeli soil.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 02, 2009, 03:21:01 PM
The majority of the crimes against Jews, was not carried out by Muslims.

The crime now is that CHRISTIANS are being MURDERED by Muslims all over.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 02, 2009, 03:22:24 PM

The crime now is that CHRISTIANS are being MURDERED by Muslims all over.

O really?
Where? Be more specific please.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Americanhero1 on November 02, 2009, 03:23:06 PM

The crime now is that CHRISTIANS are being MURDERED by Muslims all over.

O really?
Where? Be more specific please.

Black Christians in Africa.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 02, 2009, 03:23:56 PM

Black Christians in Africa.

In which century?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Americanhero1 on November 02, 2009, 03:24:40 PM

Black Christians in Africa.

In which century?

It is going on now
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 02, 2009, 03:25:56 PM

The crime now is that CHRISTIANS are being MURDERED by Muslims all over.

O really?
Where? Be more specific please.

Africa, Iran, Egypt Copts, Christians in Animists, Nigeria, Chad, Sudan, Indonesia, Lebanon, Pakistan (Maronites) Somalia, SERBIA, Muslims making trouble in NW China, ETC ETC, need MORE?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 02, 2009, 03:33:56 PM
SERBIA,

They are Muslims by birth. You forgot to mention in which uniforms, whit whose weapons and under whose protection they are murdering Serbs. 
Their uniforms are designed at the United States police departments and their weapons are coming from Western sources.

You can not blame everything on Muslims.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 02, 2009, 03:43:46 PM
You can not blame everything on Muslims
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Where ever there is WAR, there is MUSLIMS, its a fact, they are to blame for all of the violence, along with Mexican illegals.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 02, 2009, 03:47:30 PM
Other powerfull countries are also always involved in wars; that's also a fact.
But it seems like that all the ills are blamed on the Muslims.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: muman613 on November 02, 2009, 03:50:33 PM
Other powerfull countries are also always involved in wars; that's also a fact.
But it seems like that all the ills are blamed on the Muslims.


Hmmm Serbian Radical Party,

It is the Jews who are blamed for everything in this world, from tsunamis to controlling all the worlds money supply.

Muslims are responsible for the majority of the terrorism and wars which exist today.... They are the modern equivalent of Nazis..

Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 02, 2009, 03:55:25 PM
SERBIA,

They are Muslims by birth. You forgot to mention in which uniforms, whit whose weapons and under whose protection they are murdering Serbs. 
Their uniforms are designed at the United States police departments and their weapons are coming from Western sources.

You can not blame everything on Muslims.

Just as you can't blame everything on United States and the West.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 02, 2009, 03:57:37 PM
Other powerfull countries are also always involved in wars; that's also a fact.
But it seems like that all the ills are blamed on the Muslims.


But it seems like that all the ills are blamed on the Muslims
.
 :'( the poor PEACEFUL Muslims.

(http://swordattheready.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/jihadspeech.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: nopeaceforland on November 02, 2009, 04:09:55 PM
"Genocide" against an anti-Semitic, racist cult that encourages death unto others? DEATH TO ISLAM! >:(
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 02, 2009, 04:13:30 PM
Of course I don't support genocide against Muslims. Genocide is the part of Muslim tradition, not Jewish.

It is necessary to note that JTF being the most right-wing Jewish organization in the world, strongly condemns any idea of genocide on Muslims, while numerous Muslim organizations are eager to commit genocide on Jews. I want the troll G to explain this "paradox".

I agree with you completely! Troll G should explain why he made such a crooked post. Speaking of crooked, the muslims have perfected the art of crookery! Could Troll G be a muslim?

Spectator you are correct, it is indeed the muslims who have genocide on their agenda and not the Jews.


                                                      Shalom - Dox      :  )



Of course you are right Dox, Muslims are the masters of deception. Still, they can't hide the fact that their religion teaches to murder Jews and other infidels. They haven't commit genocide on Jews yet only because G-d didn't give them such an opportunity.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 02, 2009, 04:35:07 PM
"Genocide" against an anti-Semitic, racist cult that encourages death unto others? DEATH TO ISLAM! >:(

Genocide is the extermination of a nation, including women and children. While Islam encourages genocide on Jews, Torah forbids genocide on Muslims. We must obey Torah laws, not reflect the ways of the enemies.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on November 02, 2009, 04:36:28 PM

The crime now is that CHRISTIANS are being MURDERED by Muslims all over.

O really?
Where? Be more specific please.

Africa, Iran, Egypt Copts, Christians in Animists, Nigeria, Chad, Sudan, Indonesia, Lebanon, Pakistan (Maronites) Somalia, SERBIA, Muslims making trouble in NW China, ETC ETC, need MORE?

Rational, clear thinking people don't need more examples. And trust me, there are many more. The list is seemingly never ending.

In fact, one would be hard pressed to give an example of anyplace on Earth where Islam and Muslims peacefully co-exist with 'Infidels'.

Yet there are still those that deny the obvious truth, and would like to chastise those that dare to speak the truth about the unrelenting worldwide carnage, terrorism and genocide perpetrated in the name of Islam.

Instead of acknowledging and condemning the painfully obvious barbaric campaign of Islamofascist genocide, they choose to attempt to deflect the issue by making simplistic and idiotic statements like "it seems that all the ills are blamed on the Muslims."

One must wonder about the sanity of such people.

Absolutely disgusting.


Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: voo-yo on November 02, 2009, 05:11:07 PM
I'm not going to defend muslims like SRP, but he is right about one thing, they don't control anything. Muslims are generally vile people, but they lack organizational skills. Their actions are being directed from an outside party, someone is using them to accomplish his goals.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on November 02, 2009, 06:00:50 PM

The crime now is that CHRISTIANS are being MURDERED by Muslims all over.

O really?
Where? Be more specific please.

Africa, Iran, Egypt Copts, Christians in Animists, Nigeria, Chad, Sudan, Indonesia, Lebanon, Pakistan (Maronites) Somalia, SERBIA, Muslims making trouble in NW China, ETC ETC, need MORE?

Rational, clear thinking people don't need more examples. And trust me, there are many more. The list is seemingly never ending.

In fact, one would be hard pressed to give an example of anyplace on Earth where Islam and Muslims peacefully co-exist with 'Infidels'.

Yet there are still those that deny the obvious truth, and would like to chastise those that dare to speak the truth about the unrelenting worldwide carnage, terrorism and genocide perpetrated in the name of Islam.

Instead of acknowledging and condemning the painfully obvious barbaric campaign of Islamofascist genocide, they choose to attempt to deflect the issue by making simplistic and idiotic statements like "it seems that all the ills are blamed on the Muslims."

One must wonder about the sanity of such people.

Absolutely disgusting.




Very well said!   ^5
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 02, 2009, 07:07:45 PM
I'm not going to defend muslims like SRP, but he is right about one thing, they don't control anything. Muslims are generally vile people, but they lack organizational skills. Their actions are being directed from an outside party, someone is using them to accomplish his goals.
Excuse me... they own the OIL.  hello? THAT IS THE WORLD. They own EVERYTHING. Go look at Saudi Prince Alwaleeds shares in Fox news, AOL, Time Warner, $10,000,000.00 to 2 major universities.  People are SLEEPING at the wheel.  Genocide -?  Again I ask you, WHO is committing the genocide? MUSLIMS AGAINST CHRISTIANS.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on November 02, 2009, 07:41:39 PM
                                                   ×‘ס"ד   
I'm not going to defend muslims like SRP, but he is right about one thing, they don't control anything. Muslims are generally vile people, but they lack organizational skills. Their actions are being directed from an outside party, someone is using them to accomplish his goals.
Excuse me... they own the OIL.  hello? THAT IS THE WORLD. They own EVERYTHING. Go look at Saudi Prince Alwaleeds shares in Fox news, AOL, Time Warner, $10,000,000.00 to 2 major universities.  People are SLEEPING at the wheel.  Genocide -?  Again I ask you, WHO is committing the genocide? MUSLIMS AGAINST CHRISTIANS.

1.) Not exactly, the Musilms don't own all and gas resources, Russia, Venezuela, varity of Northern European countries, etc, own much more all than the Muslims do.
2.) If the "Kuffars" had anything besides "nowism" and PC in their lives they would have already solved the oil problem but they're addicted and that's how the West loses to Islam.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: voo-yo on November 02, 2009, 07:44:04 PM
I'm not going to defend muslims like SRP, but he is right about one thing, they don't control anything. Muslims are generally vile people, but they lack organizational skills. Their actions are being directed from an outside party, someone is using them to accomplish his goals.
Excuse me... they own the OIL.  hello? THAT IS THE WORLD. They own EVERYTHING. Go look at Saudi Prince Alwaleeds shares in Fox news, AOL, Time Warner, $10,000,000.00 to 2 major universities.  People are SLEEPING at the wheel.  Genocide -?  Again I ask you, WHO is committing the genocide? MUSLIMS AGAINST CHRISTIANS.
Those F-16s which were dropping bombs on my people when we fought against Muslims weren't Saudi Arabian. We would crush those mujaheddin scum in a week if USA and Europe didn't help them. Leaders of those countries don't wear towels on their heads, but they do kiss the hand of a certain guy with a funny hat that looks like a fish head.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 02, 2009, 07:50:34 PM
We would crush those mujaheddin scum in a week if USA and Europe didn't help them
So, are you telling me that my nation SUCKS now? Well, I already know, ty.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: voo-yo on November 02, 2009, 07:56:07 PM
We would crush those mujaheddin scum in a week if USA and Europe didn't help them
So, are you telling me that my nation SUCKS now? Well, I already know, ty.
Your nation? Aren't you Jewish?
I'm telling you the truth. American and European leaders are far worse than any muslim, and America will soon be the worst enemy of your people.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 02, 2009, 07:59:01 PM
I DO already know this, and yes, I am an American, living in America.  I already know they want to MURDER Jews and Christians that take up for Jews in Israel, I am NOT afraid. I am afraid of my govt.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on November 02, 2009, 08:00:58 PM
בס"ד

We would crush those mujaheddin scum in a week if USA and Europe didn't help them
So, are you telling me that my nation SUCKS now? Well, I already know, ty.
Your nation? Aren't you Jewish?
I'm telling you the truth. American and European leaders are far worse than any muslim, and America will soon be the worst enemy of your people.

I wouldn't equate Islam and America, the American government (plus American so-called "anti-Zionists", KKK, most Black Americans, most illegals, missioneries and other anti-Semites) IS our enemy, but not the American people as a whole.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on November 02, 2009, 08:03:34 PM
                                                   ×‘ס"ד

And as for the poll, I think this pic from the Turkish Muslim Nazi anti-Semitic propaganda film gives me some fantasies to dream of.
(http://hayamin.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23044.0;attach=6910;image)
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Ulli on November 02, 2009, 08:04:46 PM
We would crush those mujaheddin scum in a week if USA and Europe didn't help them
So, are you telling me that my nation SUCKS now? Well, I already know, ty.
Your nation? Aren't you Jewish?
I'm telling you the truth. American and European leaders are far worse than any muslim, and America will soon be the worst enemy of your people.

If I remember what the Schröder gouvernment did and the great coalition after I am not so shure, that voo-yo is wrong.

The German socialists and the green party did everything to assist the Muslims. They supported even real islamofacists like the grey wolfs and sponsered anti-semitic conferences were was called for the destruction of Israel.

But on the other hand Paulette is right too. The Muslimes own great parts of the German engine construction industries. Most car companies belong already to the Muzz. They have great influence, specially the Muzzies from the Arabian peninsula, who are the most fanatic ones.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: voo-yo on November 02, 2009, 08:15:32 PM
I DO already know this, and yes, I am an American, living in America.  I already know they want to MURDER Jews and Christians that take up for Jews in Israel, I am NOT afraid. I am afraid of my govt.
But, who elected that government? Now, I'm not accusing every American or western European, many good people will suffer from their own regimes, but most people are misguided. EU is already openly against Israel, and US is getting there too.
Rabbi Kahane warned Jews to get out of America in his speeches, and that was in the eighties.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 02, 2009, 09:56:25 PM
Rabbi Kahane warned Jews to get out of America in his speeches, and that was in the eighties.
Yes, I know, I dont know who votes who. I aint taking the blame, I have VOLUNTEERED my time to the Military. I have done what I can, this is a MESS, and we now have a Moslem Pres. And people hate Jews and Christians, and there will be an American Holocaust for our EVIL ways.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 01:49:33 AM

Just as you can't blame everything on United States and the West.

That's maybe true. But that's not a justification to blame the ills [all wars] on the Muslim pollution.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 01:59:42 AM
I'm not going to defend muslims like SRP, but he is right about one thing, they don't control anything. Muslims are generally vile people, but they lack organizational skills. Their actions are being directed from an outside party, someone is using them to accomplish his goals.

It's not that I am defending them brother, but to blaim the Muslims for everything is not a solution. During the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Muslims of Western-Bosnia [Fikret Abdic's Muslims] did not agree with the radical Muslim regime of Sarajevo, which was organized, funded and armed also by western-powers, and they were loyal to the Serbs and Yugoslavia. It seems that you can not say that all Muslims are the same. Majority of Muslims supported Fikret Abdic's policy in 1990 and did not want to leave Yugoslavia. Everything changed when the US replaced Abdic with radical islamist Izetbegovic.

That's why I 100% agree with your last statement. Muslims are used by other powers. They are tools in the hand of global powers, which use them in order to achieve certain goals.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 02:12:47 AM
The Muslimes own great parts of the German engine construction industries. Most car companies belong already to the Muzz. They have great influence, specially the Muzzies from the Arabian peninsula, who are the most fanatic ones.

Right that's why the majority of Muslims lives in ghetto's and is illiterate in Europe.

Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 02:40:05 AM
The Muslimes own great parts of the German engine construction industries. Most car companies belong already to the Muzz. They have great influence, specially the Muzzies from the Arabian peninsula, who are the most fanatic ones.
Right that's why the majority of Muslims lives in ghetto's and is illiterate in Europe.

There is no contradiction. The situation is the same in Muslim countries: the ruling elite are extremely rich people while the others are under-uneducated and very poor.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 02:47:47 AM

Just as you can't blame everything on United States and the West.

That's maybe true. But that's not a justification to blame the ills [all wars] on the Muslim pollution.

Nobody blames ALL wars exclusively on Muslims. We on this forum often speak about EU and globalist powers in US who are also a threat. But should not underestimate the ambitions of global Islamist movement. They are fighting many wars in different places of the planet, they murder millions of people (including their fellow Muslims) but it seems you want to close your eyes on this.

How do you explain the fact that both western globalists and Islamists hate Israel and want to destroy it?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on November 03, 2009, 02:51:54 AM
The money made by muslim crime in the west go's directly to the eastern european jihad.

crime for alla = zakat
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 03:27:29 AM

There is no contradiction. The situation is the same in Muslim countries: the ruling elite are extremely rich people while the others are under-uneducated and very poor.

So the ruling elite in Europe is also Muslim?

Well in Muslim countries you have indeed rich people who are minority.
That counts for the whole world. In countries which are not Muslim, you have also rich people who are minority.
They are indeed the minority and they are rich because of oil. Muslims in Europe do not have oil, are not that rich and those who are successfully are often only Muslims by birth and exceptions. In Europe the majority of rich and powerfull people is not Muslim, that is a fact. You can not claim that the most powerfull and rich Europeans are Muslims. Thats just like claiming that the pope is Muslim?

If we examine the higher classes of Europe, than we will conclude that Muslims are the minority on those terrains. So if Muslims are the minority among rich and successful people of Europe, than it is impossible to claim that Muslims control Europe and Europeans, who are the majority of the higher classes.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 03:37:13 AM
Nobody blames ALL wars exclusively on Muslims.

Some people said on this topic something like that.
They forgot to mention that those Muslims are in most cases used by others who control them.


How do you explain the fact that both western globalists and Islamists hate Israel and want to destroy it?

First I did not believe that, but now I see that western globalists aslo want to experiment with Israel. They do this at negotiation tables when they force Israel to surrender it's territory. They participated in the establishment of Israel, but today it seems that they are placing Israel in a dangerous position.

Why are they doing this are you asking, well compare this to Yugoslavia.
In 1918 and 1945 western-powers supported the creation of Yugoslavia, but in 1991 they offered the disintegration of Yugoslavia, which was rejected by the Serbs, who gave 1 million lives for the establishment of Yugoslavia during WW2. 

Friend, I said this before: powers who conducted genocide on Serbs, will do the same against other people. Its part of their Nazi agenda.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 03:50:08 AM

There is no contradiction. The situation is the same in Muslim countries: the ruling elite are extremely rich people while the others are under-uneducated and very poor.

If we examine the higher classes of Europe, than we will conclude that Muslims are the minority on those terrains. So if Muslims are the minority among rich and successful people of Europe, than it is impossible to claim that Muslim control Europe and Europeans, who are the majority of the higher classes.

Right, by now the majority of European elite are Europeans. But not only current situation is important but also the tendention. And the tendention is that 30 years ago there were almost no Muslims in Europe and now they number 50 million. 30 years ago there were no Muslims among European elite and now, as Ulli says:
 
The Muslimes own great parts of the German engine construction industries. Most car companies belong already to the Muzz.

Ulli is a native European and he knows what he talks about. Chaim Ben Pesach told similar things. If you don't believe them, make some independent research. Now taking this tendention into account, you can imagine how Europe will look like in more 30 years.

And one more thing, Muslim and European (and part of American) elites are not at a great conflict with each other. They have much more common goals than contradictions. They both are driven by globalist ideology, and they both want to eliminate the State of Israel. They both don't care about their own people.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 03:55:34 AM
Nobody blames ALL wars exclusively on Muslims.
Some people said on this topic something like that.
They forgot to mention that those Muslims are in most cases used by others who control them.

Muslim nations are at war with Israel for more than 100 years. You cannot expect that all the Jews will have an objective attitude to those who murder and maim their relatives and friends. Are you sure that all the Krajina Serbs have an objective attitude to Croatians? Are you sure that Russians had an objective attitude to Germans in WW2?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 03:59:37 AM

Right, by now the majority of European elite are Europeans. But not only current situation is important but also the tendention. And the tendention is that 30 years ago there were almost no Muslims in Europe and now they number 50 million. 30 years ago there were no Muslims among European elite and now, as Ulli says:

Well we were not talking about the future brother. But OK.  
I want to convince you that right now it's not that bad.
It will be bad about 40 years, but it is the EU politic who is advocating immigration of non-Europeans.  Believe me Muslims do not dictate EU-policy.


Ulli is a native European and he knows what he talks about. Chaim Ben Pesach told similar things. If you don't believe them, make some independent research. Now taking this tendention into account, you can imagine how Europe will look like in more 30 years.

Well did not you say that you agree with me now?
If I do independent research that I conclude that Muslim are pore people in Europe who are in most cases uneducated.

I suggest to you to look at the facts.
An uneducated and not organized minority can not control a continent.
People who use their brains will not believe that.

Even a disorganized majority can not control a country, let alone a uneducated minority. Seriously, how can somebody say something like that? I am very surprised that somebody thinks like that...
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 04:00:03 AM
SRP, I agree that they may do to Israel what they have done to Yugoslavia. This is quite possible scenario.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 04:16:15 AM
Muslim nations are at war with Israel for more than 100 years. You cannot expect that all the Jews will have an objective attitude to those who murder and maim their relatives and friends. Are you sure that all the Krajina Serbs have an objective attitude to Croatians? Are you sure that Russians had an objective attitude to Germans in WW2?

Your question about Krajina Serbs sounds strange. Why should Krajina Serbs have an objective attitude to Croatians? This is very strange to ask? It is not polite.

I never said that all the Jews should have an objective attitude to the Muslims?
I did not say that. Please slow down  :)! I reject that entirely.

I was even not talking about the Arab-Islaeli conflict. You are twisting my words.
I was only responding to an opinion which says that Muslims are responsible for the problems of Serbia. I quoted Serbia and I thought that I was debating about Serbia?
I was talking about the fact that the US stands behind the Muslim of the Balkans.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 04:22:23 AM
Believe me Muslims do not dictate EU-policy.

Muslims do not control it yet but they already have the certain degree of influence. In France they constitute 10% of total population and when they side with the local leftist liberals, they have a great electoral power. The similar situation is in Scandinavian countries. Plus they are much more politically and socially active that average Europeans.

Even a disorganized majority can not control a country, let alone a uneducated minority. Seriously, how can somebody say something like that? I am very surprised that somebody thinks like that...

We should not confuse the mass of uneducated Muslims residing in Europe with the rich Muslims who own some important European industrial enterprises, hotels and media.

But they both agree that Europe must be Islamized. The poor ones say that at the demonstartions in Europe, while the Islamic clerics in Muslim countries say the same things during their speeches to the followers. The poors' weapon is the demographics, the rich's one is economic influence. Plus they are taught to spread Islam by the religious leaders, because according to Islam all the world should be Muslim.

Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 04:40:15 AM
Muslim nations are at war with Israel for more than 100 years. You cannot expect that all the Jews will have an objective attitude to those who murder and maim their relatives and friends. Are you sure that all the Krajina Serbs have an objective attitude to Croatians? Are you sure that Russians had an objective attitude to Germans in WW2?

Your question about Krajina Serbs sounds strange. Why should Krajina Serbs have an objective attitude to Croatians? This is very strange to ask? It is not polite.

I never said that all the Jews should have an objective attitude to the Muslims?
I did not say that. Please slow down  :)! I reject that entirely.

To be clear, I support Krajina Serbs and you know this. But you see, you got irritated when I, just for experiment, spoke neutrally about the conflict where you are not a neutral party. That's exactly what you do all the time: on the Jewish forum, you constantly play down the evil things done by Muslims and present them as dumb mindless puppets of somebody else. You should not have the double standard. Think about it.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 04:41:19 AM
Spectator  :)

I know that you support Serbs and I respect that. I also believe that you are a good person. Please understand that we Serbs get offended and insulted when Americans hide their war crimes behind the Muslims and Croats.

You must understand that that is offended and disrespectful.
Americans bombed Serbs in Serbia, Krajina and Bosnia and are responsible for the wars, because they wanted the disintegration of Yugoslavia.
We Serbs do not appreciate when people want to blame this all on Muslims.
Muslims did not advocate the disintegration of Yugoslavia. The EU and US recommended this at the Hague conference of 1990/91.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 04:48:05 AM

We Serbs do not appreciate when people want to blame this all on Muslims.
Muslims did not advocate the disintegration of Yugoslavia.

But Muslims do advocate the disintegration of Israel and you defend them on the Jewish forum. Isn't it disrespectful?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 04:52:41 AM
That's exactly what you do all the time: on the Jewish forum, you constantly play down the evil things done by Muslims and present them as dumb mindless puppets of somebody else. You should not have the double standard. Think about it.

Its not exactly like that.
I explained why it sounds strange to say that Muslims control US and EU policy.
If this means having double standards than you have them also, because you agreed with me on this  :) You said that Muslims currently do not control EU, so you confirmed my statement.

I said that Muslims who are attacking Serbs are US puppets. I have the right to say that! I did not say that you in Israel are having exactly the same situation.
In the Middle-East you are surrounded by Muslims. On the Balkans the Muslims depend on US, because they are a minority and without US they would not think about provoking the majority [Serbs]..
So I was only explaining the situation of the Balkans.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 04:57:07 AM
But Muslims do advocate the disintegration of Israel and you defend them on the Jewish forum. Isn't it disrespectful?

You are flagrant twisting my words  ;D

Claiming that US is responsible for the disintegration of Yugoslavia, is not the same as defending Muslims who want to do the same against Israel.

If somebody accuses Muslims for being the factor which is mainly responsible for the disintegration of Yugoslavia, than I will say that that is not true.
This does not mean that I defend Muslims who advocate the disintegration of Israel.

I reject that again entirely friend, because I did not say that.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 05:08:46 AM
This topic is about Muslims in general and not about Yugoslavia. You asked a question where do Muslims commit genocide.

Ashedina answered you:

The crime now is that CHRISTIANS are being MURDERED by Muslims all over.

O really?
Where? Be more specific please.

Africa, Iran, Egypt Copts, Christians in Animists, Nigeria, Chad, Sudan, Indonesia, Lebanon, Pakistan (Maronites) Somalia, SERBIA, Muslims making trouble in NW China, ETC ETC, need MORE?

You then try to play down the responsibilty of Muslims for crimes committed in Yugoslavia. Well, it's your region and I don't argue with you about it (though I know there are Serbs that don't agree with your approach).

But what about the other regions mentioned? You didn't say anything about it. Again, this topic is about Muslims in general and not about Yugoslavia.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 05:13:11 AM
You said that Muslims currently do not control EU, so you confirmed my statement.

You are storming the open door :) Nobody says that Muslims control the Europe now.

But they want to control Europe, and they already have a certain amount of control there. I presented you the agruments, do you have something to say against them?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 05:22:29 AM
How do you explain the fact that both western globalists and Islamists hate Israel and want to destroy it?

First I did not believe that, but now I see that western globalists aslo want to experiment with Israel. They do this at negotiation tables when they force Israel to surrender it's territory. They participated in the establishment of Israel, but today it seems that they are placing Israel in a dangerous position.

You see, you are not wasting time here :) You learned something new. Informal international communication is always good. Sometimes it can tell you what you can't see and hear in controlled official media.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 05:24:50 AM

You then try to play down the responsibilty of Muslims for crimes committed in Yugoslavia. Well, it's your region and I don't argue with you about it (though I know there are Serbs that don't agree with your approach).

But what about the other regions mentioned? You didn't say anything about it. Again, this topic is about Muslims in general and not about Yugoslavia.

Again you are telling something that's not true.
When did I play down the crimes of the Muslims?
Did I mention certain areas where Muslims committed crimes in Yugoslavia.
Did I say that Muslims did not conduct crimes on those areas? No, I did not say that. Your are making that up. You want that people think that I defend Muslims and play down their crimes in Yugoslavia. This is not nice towards me personally.

I said that Muslim and Croatian crimes are results of the disintegration of Yugoslavia. You know that US and EU are responsible for the disintegration of Yugoslavia, so it's logic to claim that Muslim and Croatian crimes against Serbs were consequences of US and EU-policy...

This is playing down Muslim crimes!!
I did not expect this from you Spectator.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 05:25:56 AM
You are storming the open door :) Nobody says that Muslims control the Europe now.

People said that on this topic and you also.


There is no contradiction. The situation is the same in Muslim countries: the ruling elite are extremely rich people while the others are under-uneducated and very poor.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 05:30:51 AM
You are storming the open door :) Nobody says that Muslims control the Europe now.

People said that on this topic and you also.


There is no contradiction. The situation is the same in Muslim countries: the ruling elite are extremely rich people while the others are under-uneducated and very poor.

How does it says that Muslims conrtol Europe? I said here that like in Muslim countries, there are rich and poor Muslims in Europe.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 05:35:29 AM
SRP, Muslims want to control Europe, and they already have a certain amount of control there. I presented you the agruments, do you have something to say against them?
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 05:39:57 AM
How can we continue to conduct a debate when you claim that I play down [minimalise] Muslim crimes in Yugoslavia.

Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Hyades on November 03, 2009, 05:42:57 AM
I am not outraged, just a little bit confused  :)

So you claim that the Muslims are responsible for the greatest genocides, which took place in the world? It that what you are saying? 

Nope. I said the BIGGEST EVER WAS DONE BY GERMANS! BUUUUT: TODAY there isn't only ONE carried out By muzzies, rather than whole lot of them. If they had better means to commit genocide, they would have wiped out Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism etc. for a long long time, not caring about how many deaths that would mean. They would accept to kill BILLIONS if necessary!
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Hyades on November 03, 2009, 05:57:21 AM
We would crush those mujaheddin scum in a week if USA and Europe didn't help them
So, are you telling me that my nation SUCKS now? Well, I already know, ty.
Your nation? Aren't you Jewish?
I'm telling you the truth. American and European leaders are far worse than any muslim, and America will soon be the worst enemy of your people.

If I remember what the Schröder gouvernment did and the great coalition after I am not so shure, that voo-yo is wrong.

The German socialists and the green party did everything to assist the Muslims. They supported even real islamofacists like the grey wolfs and sponsered anti-semitic conferences were was called for the destruction of Israel.

But on the other hand Paulette is right too. The Muslimes own great parts of the German engine construction industries. Most car companies belong already to the Muzz. They have great influence, specially the Muzzies from the Arabian peninsula, who are the most fanatic ones.
Which companies belong to them? Not a single one! They hold some shares as we hold shares of THEIR companies. So what? But to be the owner of a firm you have to have at least 51% of the shares and still some allies who are at your side. And they do not own a single industry from Germany. Many put a lot of money into them as they are reliable firms with only moderate but stable groth rates.
And not ALL greens and leftist are anti-Semitic or anti-Israel. Remember the green politicians who defended Israel during the Gaza attacks. You should generalize and exaggerate in many things.
People and politicians who actually supported the war against Serbia were very well manipulated by some media showing cruel scenes of genocide, alledgedly carried out by Serba. Afterwards many of those scenes were actually Muslims killing Serbians, as came out later. And you know how people are sensitive about genocide etc. here in Germany. They still feel guilty for WWII and want to have and support justice - even being injust or basing their knowledge on stupid propaganda...
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spectator on November 03, 2009, 05:59:25 AM
How can we continue to conduct a debate when you claim that I play down [minimalise] Muslim crimes in Yugoslavia.

Here what I said:

You then try to play down the responsibilty of Muslims for crimes committed in Yugoslavia.


Take notice, I didn't say you played down the gravity or quantity of their crimes. I said "responsibility" because you are constantly saying that US and Europe incited them and they were brainwashed by their propaganda and because of that fought the Serbs. You put almost all the responsibility on the West, while you present Balkan Muslims almost as robots who don't have their own feelings, interest and mindlessly follow the orders of their Western masters. This is your position and you presented it in other topics too. This is what I call "play down the responsibility"

But you seem to have nothing say against the fact that Muslims want to take over Europe :)
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Hyades on November 03, 2009, 06:04:15 AM
I am sure much of the Muslim fighting was instigated by Muslim organizations from the Middle East in order to weaken Europe and create new Muslim countries here. Until now they succeeded quite well: We have Bosnia and Kosovo. Which one will be next? Bulgaria, where the Turkish minority will have it's "right" to create their own country inside Bulgarian borders? Muslims in France who will want a part of the country "cut off" for them only?
The "Khalif of Cologne" (Metin Kaplan) has already claimed in those days the "Islamic Republic of Western Turkey" on German soil. So I wouldn't be suprised if we got more of such stuff in future with a growing Muslim community.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Ulli on November 03, 2009, 07:10:35 AM
We would crush those mujaheddin scum in a week if USA and Europe didn't help them
So, are you telling me that my nation SUCKS now? Well, I already know, ty.
Your nation? Aren't you Jewish?
I'm telling you the truth. American and European leaders are far worse than any muslim, and America will soon be the worst enemy of your people.

If I remember what the Schröder gouvernment did and the great coalition after I am not so shure, that voo-yo is wrong.

The German socialists and the green party did everything to assist the Muslims. They supported even real islamofacists like the grey wolfs and sponsered anti-semitic conferences were was called for the destruction of Israel.

But on the other hand Paulette is right too. The Muslimes own great parts of the German engine construction industries. Most car companies belong already to the Muzz. They have great influence, specially the Muzzies from the Arabian peninsula, who are the most fanatic ones.
Which companies belong to them? Not a single one! They hold some shares as we hold shares of THEIR companies. So what? But to be the owner of a firm you have to have at least 51% of the shares and still some allies who are at your side. And they do not own a single industry from Germany. Many put a lot of money into them as they are reliable firms with only moderate but stable groth rates.
And not ALL greens and leftist are anti-Semitic or anti-Israel. Remember the green politicians who defended Israel during the Gaza attacks. You should generalize and exaggerate in many things.
People and politicians who actually supported the war against Serbia were very well manipulated by some media showing cruel scenes of genocide, alledgedly carried out by Serba. Afterwards many of those scenes were actually Muslims killing Serbians, as came out later. And you know how people are sensitive about genocide etc. here in Germany. They still feel guilty for WWII and want to have and support justice - even being injust or basing their knowledge on stupid propaganda...

Hyades, it is not, that one Muslim country owns company x or y. The Muslim oil exporting countries have gouvernmental investment funds, that investing a part of the oil money. Funds like this are Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, Kuwait Investment Authority, Qatar Investment Authority, etc. In addition to that there are the private Investors like Al-Waleed bin Talal and the mainly arabian banks.
So you would be astonished how great their influence is already.

Here you can read about the fact, that Muslim investors are strong enough to pressure major companies to invest in their Muslim countries even in sectors were high potentials are needed. Of cause this investment makes no sense because of the nature of the Muzz

http://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/araber-verlangen-mehr-deutsches-engagement;2271929

Concerning the Serbia issue, I have read the book of Jürgen Elsässer "Kriegslügen".

It was definitively not the fact, that the media pressured the German leftists, but Madleine Albright, Joschka Fischer and Rudolf Scharping planned it and gave the falsified reports to the press. They lied intentionally and tried everything to silence critical voices i.e. in the OECD. Then Fischer said, that the creed of his party was never again war, but never again Auschwitz too. So he has to attack the Serbs (new Nazis). I was soldier at this time and this was it for me. I will never again trust a member of the green party as well as one of the socialist SPD.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Hyades on November 03, 2009, 07:32:40 AM
But this is not so bad at all. Let them put their money into our country. It assures work and stability for manour y people. I am not against Arab money being invested here. But however MEDIA should be banned from Muslim investments. Cars, engines and banks may run with Arab money. I am okay with it. We have to think about our own advantages first. If there is a problem coming up with the Muslim world, they can still be disowned and the shares go to our government. :D I am sure our frims have several chapters in the treaties which doesn't make it easy for the Arabs to abuse their power.
Germany isn't significant for Israel anyway! Even if it turned into a completely Muslim country, it would not affect Israel directly. It is more complicated if big powers like Britain or France came under Muslim power. This would mean an enormous threat for Israel...
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 03, 2009, 09:39:34 AM
Take notice, I didn't say you played down the gravity or quantity of their crimes. I said "responsibility" because you are constantly saying that US and Europe incited them and they were brainwashed by their propaganda and because of that fought the Serbs. You put almost all the responsibility on the West, while you present Balkan Muslims almost as robots who don't have their own feelings, interest and mindlessly follow the orders of their Western masters. This is your position and you presented it in other topics too. This is what I call "play down the responsibility"

The Muslims and Croats carried out crimes against Serbs with US and Western political support, recognition, protection and weaponry. You are again saying that I play down responsibility of Bosnian Muslims. This sentence says enough.
You want me to deny the fact that US organized and gave instructions to Bosnian Muslims to advocate separatism within Yugoslavia... It will not work.
Why must I deny facts and why is it bad to expose US involvement during the wars in Yugoslavia? If you do not wish to hear facts, than it is for me not possible to participate in this kind of debate.

Its clear that you do not want to recognize the real context of the conflict and you are continuing to blame everything on the Muslims. Your statements are based on prejudices and emotions and not on facts.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: muman613 on November 03, 2009, 11:20:15 AM
Take notice, I didn't say you played down the gravity or quantity of their crimes. I said "responsibility" because you are constantly saying that US and Europe incited them and they were brainwashed by their propaganda and because of that fought the Serbs. You put almost all the responsibility on the West, while you present Balkan Muslims almost as robots who don't have their own feelings, interest and mindlessly follow the orders of their Western masters. This is your position and you presented it in other topics too. This is what I call "play down the responsibility"

The Muslims and Croats carried out crimes against Serbs with US and Western political support, recognition, protection and weaponry. You are again saying that I play down responsibility of Bosnian Muslims. This sentence says enough.
You want me to deny the fact that US organized and gave instructions to Bosnian Muslims to advocate separatism within Yugoslavia... It will not work.
Why must I deny facts and why is it bad to expose US involvement during the wars in Yugoslavia? If you do not wish to hear facts, than it is for me not possible to participate in this kind of debate.

Its clear that you do not want to recognize the real context of the conflict and you are continuing to blame everything on the Muslims. Your statements are based on prejudices and emotions and not on facts.

SRP,

The conflict in the Balkans is not the fault of the United States... The wars in the Balkans, the divisions, and the hatred go back for hundreds of years, long before Clinton was even born. You are looking to make America a scape-goat for your anger... The problem in the region is a result of divisions caused by the Bosnian muslims. I agree that Clinton was wrong and we may have assisted the wrong side. But do not blame America for the long running conflict in that region.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Hyades on November 03, 2009, 12:10:32 PM
Take notice, I didn't say you played down the gravity or quantity of their crimes. I said "responsibility" because you are constantly saying that US and Europe incited them and they were brainwashed by their propaganda and because of that fought the Serbs. You put almost all the responsibility on the West, while you present Balkan Muslims almost as robots who don't have their own feelings, interest and mindlessly follow the orders of their Western masters. This is your position and you presented it in other topics too. This is what I call "play down the responsibility"

The Muslims and Croats carried out crimes against Serbs with US and Western political support, recognition, protection and weaponry. You are again saying that I play down responsibility of Bosnian Muslims. This sentence says enough.
You want me to deny the fact that US organized and gave instructions to Bosnian Muslims to advocate separatism within Yugoslavia... It will not work.
Why must I deny facts and why is it bad to expose US involvement during the wars in Yugoslavia? If you do not wish to hear facts, than it is for me not possible to participate in this kind of debate.

Its clear that you do not want to recognize the real context of the conflict and you are continuing to blame everything on the Muslims. Your statements are based on prejudices and emotions and not on facts.

SRP,

The conflict in the Balkans is not the fault of the United States... The wars in the Balkans, the divisions, and the hatred go back for hundreds of years, long before Clinton was even born. You are looking to make America a scape-goat for your anger... The problem in the region is a result of divisions caused by the Bosnian muslims. I agree that Clinton was wrong and we may have assisted the wrong side. But do not blame America for the long running conflict in that region.


Exactly! This is a conflict that was just waiting to break through. It started with the islamisation of Bosnians and other "tribes" by the Turks. A long dictatorship-like Yougoslavia kept a certain stability in the region. But when Slovenia and Croatia broke apart, this was the time for the Muslims to try the same and in a less peaceful way than Slovenia and Croatia did! The Muslims wanted to wipe the Serbs out of Bosnia, committed atrocities and blamed Serbia for everything. It was as always that the Western countries decided to give their 2 cents and worsened the whole situation with their interventions in the conflict.
I would have been a much shorter conflict, if the Serbs could have done what they wanted.
But I remember very well, that countries like Turkey, Saudi Arabia and others wanted to send their troops against Serbia since they blamed Europe and US for "assisting the genocide because there were no intersts in oil there in Yugoslavia".
And I think another reason behind a US-European NATO attack was to keep Muslim states out of the conflict. This would have been another threat on the continent.
Here USA and Europe are to blame. They should have stopped threats from Turkey and other Muslim countries and defend this as an "interior conflict" of Yugoslavia.
Bbut we all know that Turkey even attacks it's own allies as they did with Greece.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: voo-yo on November 03, 2009, 12:54:29 PM
Take notice, I didn't say you played down the gravity or quantity of their crimes. I said "responsibility" because you are constantly saying that US and Europe incited them and they were brainwashed by their propaganda and because of that fought the Serbs. You put almost all the responsibility on the West, while you present Balkan Muslims almost as robots who don't have their own feelings, interest and mindlessly follow the orders of their Western masters. This is your position and you presented it in other topics too. This is what I call "play down the responsibility"

The Muslims and Croats carried out crimes against Serbs with US and Western political support, recognition, protection and weaponry. You are again saying that I play down responsibility of Bosnian Muslims. This sentence says enough.
You want me to deny the fact that US organized and gave instructions to Bosnian Muslims to advocate separatism within Yugoslavia... It will not work.
Why must I deny facts and why is it bad to expose US involvement during the wars in Yugoslavia? If you do not wish to hear facts, than it is for me not possible to participate in this kind of debate.

Its clear that you do not want to recognize the real context of the conflict and you are continuing to blame everything on the Muslims. Your statements are based on prejudices and emotions and not on facts.

SRP,

The conflict in the Balkans is not the fault of the United States... The wars in the Balkans, the divisions, and the hatred go back for hundreds of years, long before Clinton was even born. You are looking to make America a scape-goat for your anger... The problem in the region is a result of divisions caused by the Bosnian muslims. I agree that Clinton was wrong and we may have assisted the wrong side. But do not blame America for the long running conflict in that region.

Actually, much of it is American fault. Yes, the muslims hate us and they are a fifth column and therefore they must disappear from the Balkans, one way or the other. But, they are also cowards, and would never dare attacking us without a powerful backing from US and Europe.
This is what happened before the start of the war
On March 18, 1992, Alija Izetbegovic (Bosnian-Muslim leader), Mate Boban (Bosnian-Croat leader), and Radovan Karadzic (Bosnian-Serb Leader) all reached an agreement on the peaceful succession of Bosnia & Herzegovina from Yugoslavia.

The Agreement was known as the Lisbon Agreement (it is also known as the Cutileiro Plan). The agreement called for an independent Bosnia divided into three constituent and geographically separate parts, each of which would be autonomous. Izetbegovic, Boban, and Karadzic all agreed to the plan, and signed the agreement.

The agreement was all set, internal and external borders, and the administrative functions of the central and autonomous governments had all been agreed upon. The threat of civil war had been removed from Bosnia that is until, the U.S. Ambassador Warren Zimmerman showed up.

On March 28, 1992, ten days after the agreement was reached that would have avoided war in Bosnia, Warren Zimmerman showed up in Sarajevo and met with the Bosnian-Muslim leader, Alija Izetbegovic. Upon finding that Izetbegovic was having second thoughts about the agreement he had signed in Lisbon, the Ambassador suggested that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. Izetbegovic then withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement.

Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Serbian_Radical_Party on November 04, 2009, 11:20:55 AM
voo-yo

My compliments!
I am just going to add the fact that the US and other NATO-nations armed Bosnian Muslims, Croats and Albanians and encouraged them to attack Serbs.
Serbs possessed domestic weapons, while Muslims and Croats had mosly foreign [Western] weaponry.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: syyuge on November 04, 2009, 01:12:58 PM
Muslamics clear cut want their global hegemony only or separatism.

It is the choice left to America, USSR, Nato, Red Dragon and Eurocommunists whether, when and where they support or oppose the muslamics.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 04, 2009, 01:27:29 PM
Just to get back to the original issue.   The GENOCIDE that is happening is against Christians all over this earth, not the poor 'peace-filled' Moslems. 
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Hyades on November 04, 2009, 04:27:24 PM
Just to get back to the original issue.   The GENOCIDE that is happening is against Christians all over this earth, not the poor 'peace-filled' Moslems. 

This is truly a fact. But anyway quranimals manage to always put it as if they were the massacred and genocided by Christians and Jews. There is so many Muslimaniac propaganda flooding the media, that it has become unbearable! Even many Christians and Jews do already believe they are on the wrong side!!!
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Debbie Shafer on November 04, 2009, 05:29:12 PM
Those who are murderers and their crimes can be proven should be terminated, but I cannot say we should go out and kill all muslims or innocent muslims.   The fact that we have sense and reason sets us apart from some of these animals!  Who can abide by taking innocent lives, unless the only choice is:  (Your family or them)
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on November 05, 2009, 02:39:57 AM
The topic should be:

"Do you agree with genocide against muslim terrorists"

I say: YES.

Let's keep thinking straight.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: hyperion on November 05, 2009, 02:53:08 AM
Genocide against terrorists! Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FyvW-f77ZE

 :::D :::D
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 05, 2009, 06:06:55 PM
NOW WHAT DO YOU SAY G?? HUH? Moslem TERRORIST ATTACK on our military, and YOU are Accusing US of wanting GENOCIDE? WE ARE THE ONES THAT WILL BE IN THE GENOCIDE YOU MOONBAT!
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Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: The One and Only Mo on November 09, 2009, 05:09:37 PM
It's self defense, NOT genocide.
Title: Re: Do you approve of genocide against Muslims?
Post by: AsheDina on November 09, 2009, 08:11:29 PM
The Hasan 'mental' poor peace filled Muslim was not thinking of GENOCIDE when HE did this?  The person that posted this original post is a MORON.