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Title: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: muman613 on December 08, 2009, 07:47:38 PM
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HAPPY HANNUKAH

Hannukah starts this Friday after Sundown....

AM YISROEL CHAI!!!!
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on December 08, 2009, 08:19:11 PM
                                                                בס"ד

Happy Chanukah.
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: The One and Only Mo on December 08, 2009, 08:30:35 PM
May this Chanukah bring destruction to our enemies and the rebuilding of the Beis Hamikdash. :dance: :)
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: Rubystars on December 08, 2009, 11:03:48 PM
I hope all our Jewish members have a joyous and wonderful holiday.
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: ~Hanna~ on December 09, 2009, 12:23:13 AM
Yes, have a very joyous holiday, don't you get at least 7 days of gifts? wow.
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: muman613 on December 09, 2009, 12:52:47 AM
Quote from: ~Hanna~ on December 09, 2009, 12:23:13 AM
Yes, have a very joyous holiday, don't you get at least 7 days of gifts? wow.

Only if you are in a house which has been influenced by the American Christmas culture... Chanukah itself has no such tradition of giving gifts. There is the giving of small monetary gifts like coins, or chocolate coins, to be used playing the 'gambling' game of Dreidle.

I am glad Chanukah doesn't have this tradition because that is the cause of the rampant consumerism which we see every December.

Some of the more 'liberal' Jewish denominations like reform has also taken the custom of decorating 'Chanukah Bushes' in a strange aping of Christmas trees... I think that custom is sick, and so anti-Jewish that it makes me nauseated.

Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: The One and Only Mo on December 09, 2009, 12:55:19 AM
Quote from: ~Hanna~ on December 09, 2009, 12:23:13 AM
Yes, have a very joyous holiday, don't you get at least 7 days of gifts? wow.

8 days. ;D
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: ~Hanna~ on December 09, 2009, 01:12:46 AM
ok, 8 days of at least chocolates I like that.
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: muman613 on December 09, 2009, 01:17:12 AM
Quote from: ~Hanna~ on December 09, 2009, 01:12:46 AM
ok, 8 days of at least chocolates I like that.

Chanukah Gelt is delicious...

I gotta get some this week...

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Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: ~Hanna~ on December 09, 2009, 01:20:39 AM
oh yes, i have had some of that before....
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: Rubystars on December 09, 2009, 01:37:43 AM
I saw these cute cupcakes one time with the Star of David on top around Hannukah time. I thought that was just so cute!  ;D
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: New Yorker on December 09, 2009, 01:39:56 AM
My family gives full blown gifts to the kids on Hannukah, just to be fair, cmon it's no fun for them to see their Christian friends getting presents for Christmas while they get nothing. My parents did it for me when I was a kid. Hey there no harm giving gifts to people you love for any reason, so Hannukah is a good excuse.  ;D
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: muman613 on December 09, 2009, 01:45:28 AM
Quote from: New Yorker on December 09, 2009, 01:39:56 AM
My family gives full blown gifts to the kids on Hannukah, just to be fair, cmon it's no fun for them to see their Christian friends getting presents for Christmas while they get nothing. My parents did it for me when I was a kid. Hey there no harm giving gifts to people you love for any reason, so Hannukah is a good excuse.  ;D

This is what I said in my original posting... That because of Christmas we have adopted that tradition, but it is not a part of Chanukah from the Jewish perspective... In Israel they don't have that kind of Christmas drive to buy gifts...

Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: New Yorker on December 09, 2009, 01:47:53 AM
Quote from: muman613 on December 09, 2009, 01:45:28 AM
Quote from: New Yorker on December 09, 2009, 01:39:56 AM
My family gives full blown gifts to the kids on Hannukah, just to be fair, cmon it's no fun for them to see their Christian friends getting presents for Christmas while they get nothing. My parents did it for me when I was a kid. Hey there no harm giving gifts to people you love for any reason, so Hannukah is a good excuse.  ;D

This is what I said in my original posting... That because of Christmas we have adopted that tradition, but it is not a part of Chanukah from the Jewish perspective... In Israel they don't have that kind of Christmas drive to buy gifts...



Because in Israel the kids don't have scores of Christian friends who suddenly have brand new bikes and XBOX360's  :::D
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: pennyjangle on December 09, 2009, 08:55:40 PM
Happy Hanukkah! Wow 8 days of latkes,pontshkes & chocolate coins.  8)
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: muman613 on December 09, 2009, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: Dan ben Noah on December 09, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
I doubt the chocolate coins were even around in ancient times.  The halachot concerning Chanuka I believe only involve lighting consecutive candles of the menora each night for 8 nights, reciting special blessings, and being happy (which according to one commentary I saw meant feasting).

Yes, this is true... But the custom of giving Gelt goes back to Greek times when the children were prohibited from learning Torah and the gambling game of Dreidle allowed them to learn about the miracles which occured.

Gelt is money, and Channukah gelt today is made from Chocolate...

Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: Dan on December 09, 2009, 10:03:35 PM
Happy Hannukah!
Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: muman613 on December 09, 2009, 10:03:40 PM
http://www.aish.com/h/c/b/48962351.html

What's the deeper meaning of money and what does it have to do with Chanuka?

The Code of Jewish Law states:

“It is forbidden to derive any benefit from the lights of the Chanukah menorah... even to use the light to count your money.”

When Jewish law wants to illustrate the prohibition against deriving benefit from the menorah, the example used is "don’t count your money." It could have said don't write a letter by the light of the menorah, or don't let your children do their homework by the light of the menorah. But of all things, it says, don't count your money by the light of the menorah.

And on top of all this, Chanukah is the only holiday that has a custom centered on money, the giving of Chanukah gelt.

What’s the deeper meaning of money? And what is the relationship between Chanukah and money?

THE HISTORY OF MONEY

It is impossible for us to imagine a world without money, but once upon a time that's the way it was. In a moneyless world, how would you buy a shovel?

Simple. You’d take your extra hammer, and find someone with an extra shovel who just happened to need a hammer. Swap your hammer for his shovel – and presto! Everyone’s happy.

A tedious, inefficient and bothersome way to execute transactions? Now you know why money was invented…

There was a time when a U.S. dollar was backed by a dollar's worth of gold. But that is no longer the case. Today our money is a symbolic representation of value. The difference between money and actual goods is that one has intrinsic value, while the other has representative value. A lawnmower is valuable because it cuts grass. But a twenty dollar bill, a personal check or a plastic credit card can't be used for too much. But you can transform it into almost anything you desire…

One person looks at a hundred dollar bill and sees a CD player. Another sees a watch, and yet another sees a bicycle for their nieces birthday. Money, in and of itself has virtually no value, but it's potential is almost limitless.

Money represents potential.

JACOB AND THE JARS

In the formative years of Jewish history, Jacob had a bully for a brother named Esau. Eventually the situation became so bad at home that Jacob had to run away from his brother, who wanted to kill him. Years later, Esau and his thugs finally caught up with Jacob. During the night before their fateful reunion, Jacob quietly moved his entire family across the river near where they had camped. Then, Jacob went back to the other side of the river.

The Midrash says two amazing things:

1) Jacob went back to the other side because he forgot some small jars. This teaches us that the righteous care more about their money than their own lives.

2) "Therefore," said God, "because you took the risk of going back for a few jars, I will repay your children with a small jar that will be found by the Maccabees."

Think about it. Jacob goes back to retrieve some small jars and somehow that act is so significant that it enables the Maccabees, over 1,000 years later, to find the one remaining jar of oil that would be the source of the Chanukah miracle. Additionally, we learn from this episode how important money is to righteous people.

Jacob, the father of the 12 tribes, understood the power of potential.

CHANUKAH MONEY

On the surface, it was preposterous for the Jews to resist the Greeks. Hellenism was the wave of the future and militarily no one could stand in the Greeks' path, certainly not a band of renegade Jews.

But the Jewish people knew that they were an eternal people. A people whose message of values was destined to last forever and have a world-shaping impact. A tiny and ill-equipped people was prepared to take on the superpower of its day, all because they believed in the potential of Jewish destiny. They believed that no matter how dire things looked, there exists within the Jewish soul, the ability to vanquish the mightiest of foes and fulfill their own mission of being "A light unto the nations."
 
“The Egyptian, the Babylonian and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away. The Greek and the Roman followed and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was; exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains.”
- Mark Twain

When we light our menorahs, we must look closely at those tiny flames and contemplate the world of potential. Where others see darkness, we are called to see light. We need to look at our children, look beyond the problems and the quarrels, and see potential. We need to look at one another, beyond the faults and the foibles, and see potential.

We need to look at life, beyond all the pain and struggles, and see potential. We need to look at our people, beyond the divisions and the hatred, and see potential. In everything we encounter, we need to look beneath the surface, to discover the soul, and to realize our ultimate potential.

That’s Chanukah gelt.

 

Title: Re: Happy Hannukah!
Post by: pinoyjew on December 09, 2009, 10:15:22 PM
happy chanukkah  :dance:
i think this is the first chanukiah made in the philippines by me and my father...hope u like the simple design

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shalom