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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: The One and Only Mo on December 08, 2009, 08:36:59 PM
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haven't seen her in a while.
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Good call, you're right.
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I was just thinking of her too. Dr. Brennan Fan, why don't you send her a message asking if everything is OK?
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Also what about AmericanHero?
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Also what about AmericanHero?
He has been banned. Same with ProudAndZionist.
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Same with ProudAndZionist.
He actually wanted to leave.
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Also what about AmericanHero?
He has been banned. Same with ProudAndZionist.
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Also what about AmericanHero?
He has been banned. Same with ProudAndZionist.
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
Whoa, I heard differently.
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
I wasn't talking about the reason, I know this piece of scum was banned.
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
Whoa, I heard differently.
What have you heard and from who?
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
Whoa, I heard differently.
What have you heard and from who?
Depends who he was talking about. Maybe you guys should discuss this stuff in the honorable winged members section.
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
Whoa, I heard differently.
What have you heard and from who?
Depends who he was talking about. Maybe you guys should discuss this stuff in the honorable winged members section.
PM me what he said.
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
I wasn't talking about the reason, I know this piece of scum was banned.
How can you talk this way about ProudAndZionist? Peter has done many good things for JTF, his videos alone speak for themselves!
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Also what about AmericanHero?
He has been banned. Same with ProudAndZionist.
Why was he banned for?
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yea what happened to ProudandZionist?
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me too
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
Whoa, I heard differently.
What have you heard and from who?
Depends who he was talking about. Maybe you guys should discuss this stuff in the honorable winged members section.
PM me what he said.
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Hey you guys who talk so dirty on ProudZionist have zero dignity.
I dont know why this guy was banned, if there was a good reason then i believe Peter was little confused or maybe thought different and had to be taught,
it doesnt matter, the fact you guys talk so much crap without letting him defend himself is very cheap and unrespectful, at least be men enough to write this when he can defend himself so we hear both sides.
and just remember that the words you pick up to use against him reflect on what persons you are, simply because honorable people dont use dirty language.
Peter was very active to defend the jewish people outside and online both.
Its very funny how people keep the good thoughts for themselves but when he does something bad they expose the potty mouth.
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I don't know if should be saying this but Peter told me he might have stomach cancer. The doctor told him he could have it. And he has been very sick for a while
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To make a long story short, he had a very fundamental difference with Chaim over what constitutes a Jew, and wanted to leave the forum. I do not agree with calling him a scumbag but I do think that he has issues that preclude him from still being involved with JTF.
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Hey you guys who talk so dirty on ProudZionist have zero dignity.
I dont know why this guy was banned, if there was a good reason then i believe Peter was little confused or maybe thought different and had to be taught,
it doesnt matter, the fact you guys talk so much crap without letting him defend himself is very cheap and unrespectful, at least be men enough to write this when he can defend himself so we hear both sides.
and just remember that the words you pick up to use against him reflect on what persons you are, simply because honorable people dont use dirty language.
Peter was very active to defend the jewish people outside and online both.
Its very funny how people keep the good thoughts for themselves but when he does something bad they expose the potty mouth.
Amen V, Amen....
I could not agree with you more.
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I don't know if should be saying this but Peter told me he might have stomach cancer. The doctor told him he could have it. And he has been very sick for a while
I know he has been feeling bad for a while, I will keep him in my morning prayers and read psalms for him.
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To make a long story short, he had a very fundamental difference with Chaim over what constitutes a Jew, and wanted to leave the forum. I do not agree with calling him a scumbag but I do think that he has issues that preclude him from still being involved with JTF.
hmm thanks for the info. I know he used to claim that he was a jew from his grandmother's side, as far as i know.. i think a person can only be jewish if his mother is jewish. and whats wrong in being a hungarian gentile and yet supporting JTF? He better sort out himself on these issues. Nonetheless, i hope he makes a speedy recovery from the cancer, best wishes with him.
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Wow i agree with V . I am sad to see him go because he was always getting things moving around here... and he was promoting this site so much to everyone he met. He was a true Patriot to the cause and he was very proud to be Jewish! I will really miss him... you know i have only heard such wonderful things from him about those on this site! So when is a difference of view a reason to boot some one...hmmmm
i am sad to see this sort of talk...Peter was a friend to many here!
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Me also...good post!!!!!
Hey you guys who talk so dirty on ProudZionist have zero dignity.
I dont know why this guy was banned, if there was a good reason then i believe Peter was little confused or maybe thought different and had to be taught,
it doesnt matter, the fact you guys talk so much crap without letting him defend himself is very cheap and unrespectful, at least be men enough to write this when he can defend himself so we hear both sides.
and just remember that the words you pick up to use against him reflect on what persons you are, simply because honorable people dont use dirty language.
Peter was very active to defend the jewish people outside and online both.
Its very funny how people keep the good thoughts for themselves but when he does something bad they expose the potty mouth.
Amen V, Amen....
I could not agree with you more.
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Hey you guys who talk so dirty on ProudZionist have zero dignity.
I dont know why this guy was banned, if there was a good reason then i believe Peter was little confused or maybe thought different and had to be taught,
it doesnt matter, the fact you guys talk so much crap without letting him defend himself is very cheap and unrespectful, at least be men enough to write this when he can defend himself so we hear both sides.
and just remember that the words you pick up to use against him reflect on what persons you are, simply because honorable people dont use dirty language.
Peter was very active to defend the jewish people outside and online both.
Its very funny how people keep the good thoughts for themselves but when he does something bad they expose the potty mouth.
Who talked dirty about him?
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
Whoa, I heard differently.
Jesus Christ, I was talking about AmericanHero. I thought you were talking about him, too. So when you said the thing about he had a disagreement about what Jew was, I said "whoa, I heard differently." LOL, all this crap for nothing.
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I don't know if should be saying this but Peter told me he might have stomach cancer. The doctor told him he could have it. And he has been very sick for a while
He told us it was his mom that might....somebody can dig up those posts I'm sure.
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
This is why he was banned.
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I don't know if should be saying this but Peter told me he might have stomach cancer. The doctor told him he could have it. And he has been very sick for a while
I know he has been feeling bad for a while, I will keep him in my morning prayers and read psalms for him.
I also recall Peter mentioning that his Mother had Stomach Cancer.
My thoughts and prayers are with Peter and his Mom.
Also, I hope all is well with Dox.
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
Whoa, I heard differently.
Jesus Christ, I was talking about AmericanHero. I thought you were talking about him, too. So when you said the thing about he had a disagreement about what Jew was, I said "whoa, I heard differently." LOL, all this crap for nothing.
Mo,
Whether it is about PZ, AHero, or any other FORMER member, just let it die already.
Enough is enough.......
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You know what happened, he did not agree with the Torah definition of who is a Jew.
Whoa, I heard differently.
Jesus Christ, I was talking about AmericanHero. I thought you were talking about him, too. So when you said the thing about he had a disagreement about what Jew was, I said "whoa, I heard differently." LOL, all this crap for nothing.
Mo,
Whether it is about PZ, AHero, or any other FORMER member, just let it die already.
Enough is enough.......
OMG! I didn't bring that up!!!!!!! somebody asked a freaking question! read the stupid thread before you blame me again!!!!!!!!
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I also hope everything is well with Dox!
About Peter:
He was banned because Ron, Chaim and Peter had some differences. He also told me today on MSN that he feels bad. He vomited and he said he maybe has cancer. To talk that bad like "scumbag" about someone who feels bad and has an illness is really disgusting and inhuman!
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Hey you guys who talk so dirty on ProudZionist have zero dignity.
I dont know why this guy was banned, if there was a good reason then i believe Peter was little confused or maybe thought different and had to be taught,
it doesnt matter, the fact you guys talk so much crap without letting him defend himself is very cheap and unrespectful, at least be men enough to write this when he can defend himself so we hear both sides.
and just remember that the words you pick up to use against him reflect on what persons you are, simply because honorable people dont use dirty language.
Peter was very active to defend the jewish people outside and online both.
Its very funny how people keep the good thoughts for themselves but when he does something bad they expose the potty mouth.
Who talked dirty about him?
hahahahaha 'piece of scum' oh yes i forgot it means I wish you health&peace in hebrew...
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To make a long story short, he had a very fundamental difference with Chaim over what constitutes a Jew, and wanted to leave the forum. I do not agree with calling him a scumbag but I do think that he has issues that preclude him from still being involved with JTF.
hmm thanks for the info. I know he used to claim that he was a jew from his grandmother's side, as far as i know.. i think a person can only be jewish if his mother is jewish. and whats wrong in being a hungarian gentile and yet supporting JTF? He better sort out himself on these issues. Nonetheless, i hope he makes a speedy recovery from the cancer, best wishes with him.
It's on his mothers side.
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Peter is certainly no scumbag!
True, he had differences with Chaim on what makes a person Jewish, as well as Conservative and Reform Judaism. But that's no reason for people him to be called a scum bag when he can't defend himself.
And for the record, his mother has stomach cancer. Also he's been feeling quite ill from what he's told me. The doctor told him it was a problem with his small bowel. He's been vomitting a lot and losing weight.
So please no more name calling.
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Hey you guys who talk so dirty on ProudZionist have zero dignity.
I dont know why this guy was banned, if there was a good reason then i believe Peter was little confused or maybe thought different and had to be taught,
it doesnt matter, the fact you guys talk so much crap without letting him defend himself is very cheap and unrespectful, at least be men enough to write this when he can defend himself so we hear both sides.
and just remember that the words you pick up to use against him reflect on what persons you are, simply because honorable people dont use dirty language.
Peter was very active to defend the jewish people outside and online both.
Its very funny how people keep the good thoughts for themselves but when he does something bad they expose the potty mouth.
Who talked dirty about him?
hahahahaha 'piece of scum' oh yes i forgot it means I wish you health&peace in hebrew...
ONE PERSON SAYS ONE THING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SAY "PEOPLE" ARE TALKING BADLY ABOUT HIM?
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Peter is certainly no scumbag!
True, he had differences with Chaim on what makes a person Jewish, as well as Conservative and Reform Judaism. But that's no reason for people here to bad mouth him when he can't defend himself.
And for the record, his mother has stomach cancer. Also he's been feeling quite ill from what he's told me. The doctor told him it was a problem with his small bowel. He's been vomitting a lot and losing weight.
So let's stop talking badly about him.
ONE PERSON SAYS ONE THING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SAY "PEOPLE" ARE TALKING BADLY ABOUT HIM?
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Mo, for your information, using all caps on the internet is the equivalent of screaming.
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Mo, for your information, using all caps on the internet is the equivalent of screaming.
Lisa, for your information, I know, and I was screaming.
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Well I'm trying to be diplomatic and not singly anyone out, OK? Perhaps I should have said "There is no reason for him to be called a scum bag now after he's been banned."
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Now lets stop this stupid fights!!! >:(
Our enemies are out there! Islam, Nazis, Communists and so on.
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Peters Mother is Jewish
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Well I'm trying to be diplomatic and not singly anyone out, OK? Perhaps I should have said "There is no reason for him to be called a scum bag now after he's been banned."
Now that just confirms that you've singled me out....putting my name right in there. It's as if I called him a scumbag,lol.
DOX, LOOK AT WHAT YOU STARTED??? ALL BECAUSE I WAS WORRIED ABOUT YOU, I HOPE YOU READ THIS WHEN YOU GET BACK!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Mo, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say you called him a scumbag. I changed my post because you said it looked like I was saying everyone was calling him a bad name. I changed it for you. So can you please stop screaming at me?
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Please everyone, keep cool... Do not attack others because of perceived insults. It is hard but it is essential in a community with so many people who are so sensitive... I dont bear any ill-will to either AH or PZ and I hope that their lives are full of blessing.
It is a season when we all feel more stress. Let us take a breather and try to look for the good in each of us. Please don't make me a target because I am only a messenger...
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Please everyone, keep cool... Do not attack others because of perceived insults. It is hard but it is essential in a community with so many people who are so sensitive... I dont bear any ill-will to either AH or PZ and I hope that their lives are full of blessing.
It is a season when we all feel more stress. Let us take a breather and try to look for the good in each of us. Please don't make me a target because I am only a messenger...
Agree!
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Please everyone, keep cool... Do not attack others because of perceived insults. It is hard but it is essential in a community with so many people who are so sensitive... I dont bear any ill-will to either AH or PZ and I hope that their lives are full of blessing.
It is a season when we all feel more stress. Let us take a breather and try to look for the good in each of us. Please don't make me a target because I am only a messenger...
Tell that to ag37 who wrongfully accused me.
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Dear JTF Family, I have missed you all, and thanks for asking about me Mo.
There has been a lot happening lately and most of it is negative, I have had some serious issues and trouble dealing with them. I cannot go into detail about my troubles, but as all of you know from experience that life has it's up's and downs, up's and down's, etc. We just go one day at a time and get through it.
I am sorry to share some horrible news with you all but my beloved Doxie Haylee has passed away.
I had to put her down this past Sunday because her health became an issue, she started coughing heavily at night due to her bad heart. Also my doxie was beginning to drink her own urine ( despie the fact she had water 24/7. It killed me to put her down, I cried the whole time I was with her, and begged her to forgive me for putting her down.
Haylee was with me for 13 years, since she was a Puppy and we went through so much together, especially after she lost the use of her legs years ago. My dog loved to live despite her handicap and that was one reason I took care of her in that condition for so long. Now it's over and my beloved Haylee is with G-d.
I hope G-d forgives me for putting her down.
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Just to make things clear, he said his mothers father is Jewish. Anyway, Peter is a good person and I wish his mother and him get well.
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Dear JTF Family, I have missed you all, and thanks for asking about me Mo.
There has been a lot happening lately and most of it is negative, I have had some serious issues and trouble dealing with them. I cannot go into detail about my troubles, but as all of you know from experience that life has it's up's and downs, up's and down's, etc. We just go one day at a time and get through it.
I am sorry to share some horrible news with you all but my beloved Doxie Haylee has passed away.
I had to put her down this past Sunday because her health became an issue, she started coughing heavily at night due to her bad heart. Also my doxie was beginning to drink her own urine ( despie the fact she had water 24/7. It killed me to put her down, I cried the whole time I was with her, and begged her to forgive me for putting her down.
Haylee was with me for 13 years, since she was a Puppy and we went through so much together, especially after she lost the use of her legs years ago. My dog loved to live despite her handicap and that was one reason I took care of her in that condition for so long. Now it's over and my beloved Haylee is with G-d.
I hope G-d forgives me for putting her down.
I'm so sorry, that's a sad story. U did the right thing if she was suffering. May you have strength to move forward.
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I want to apologize to my Forum family for not keeping in touch. Times have been difficult as I said, and my mind is not there completely. I thank you all for understanding.
Missed you all ..... G-d Bless !
Shalom - Dox
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Sorry to hear that Dox. I think you did the right thing.
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Zelhar, I don't know if it was the right thing to do.. she might have lived 1 or 2 more years in her condition, and I am not sure if I had the right to deny her 1 or 2 more years. But honestly I could not take caring for her anymore, I did 2 loads of laundry per day for her ( washing her blankets etc. ) and I had to lift her up and down 20 times a day....I hope G-d forgives me for not being able to care for her anymore.
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Jesus Christ, I was talking about AmericanHero.
Please, don't use the name of Jesus as a casual exclamation. I wouldn't say "Holy Moses". Thank you!
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This is why he was banned.
He wasn't really just banned, it was a mutual parting of ways.
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Zelhar, I don't know if it was the right thing to do.. she might have lived 1 or 2 more years in her condition, and I am not sure if I had the right to deny her 1 or 2 more years. But honestly I could not take caring for her anymore, I did 2 loads of laundry per day for her ( washing her blankets etc. ) and I had to lift her up and down 20 times a day....I hope G-d forgives me for not being able to care for her anymore.
I had an old Dog who suddenly got heart problems, she was breathing very fast and could hardly move. We tried to treat her with medicine but she died within days, she went down trying to reach her water bowl. It was s real sad scene.
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Zelhar, I am sorry you lost your beloved pet.
I guess we all go through that heartache when we have pets.
Thanks again..... Dox
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Dear JTF Family, I have missed you all, and thanks for asking about me Mo.
There has been a lot happening lately and most of it is negative, I have had some serious issues and trouble dealing with them. I cannot go into detail about my troubles, but as all of you know from experience that life has it's up's and downs, up's and down's, etc. We just go one day at a time and get through it.
I am sorry to share some horrible news with you all but my beloved Doxie Haylee has passed away.
I had to put her down this past Sunday because her health became an issue, she started coughing heavily at night due to her bad heart. Also my doxie was beginning to drink her own urine ( despie the fact she had water 24/7. It killed me to put her down, I cried the whole time I was with her, and begged her to forgive me for putting her down.
Haylee was with me for 13 years, since she was a Puppy and we went through so much together, especially after she lost the use of her legs years ago. My dog loved to live despite her handicap and that was one reason I took care of her in that condition for so long. Now it's over and my beloved Haylee is with G-d.
I hope G-d forgives me for putting her down.
not only that God will forgive you, I am pretty sure it is a mitzvah what you did, since you put an animal out of its pain and misery.
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Thank you V
Dox
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Jesus Christ, I was talking about AmericanHero.
Please, don't use the name of Jesus as a casual exclamation. I wouldn't say "Holy Moses". Thank you!
Sorry man, I didn't even think twice. I think it would be really cool if you used "Holy Moses". You'd be like Robin.
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Dear JTF Family, I have missed you all, and thanks for asking about me Mo.
There has been a lot happening lately and most of it is negative, I have had some serious issues and trouble dealing with them. I cannot go into detail about my troubles, but as all of you know from experience that life has it's up's and downs, up's and down's, etc. We just go one day at a time and get through it.
I am sorry to share some horrible news with you all but my beloved Doxie Haylee has passed away.
I had to put her down this past Sunday because her health became an issue, she started coughing heavily at night due to her bad heart. Also my doxie was beginning to drink her own urine ( despie the fact she had water 24/7. It killed me to put her down, I cried the whole time I was with her, and begged her to forgive me for putting her down.
Haylee was with me for 13 years, since she was a Puppy and we went through so much together, especially after she lost the use of her legs years ago. My dog loved to live despite her handicap and that was one reason I took care of her in that condition for so long. Now it's over and my beloved Haylee is with G-d.
I hope G-d forgives me for putting her down.
I am so very sorry to hear that. :'( I know how horrible it is to lose a pet, but she is in a better place now. You absolutely did the right thing and don't ever think otherwise.
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Hi Dr. Brennan, thank you for your kind words.
My heart died while she was being put to sleep.
I will get over this as time goes on, it's been 3 days so the wound is still fresh.
Despite my own troubles I do hope that you are doing well and life is treating you good.
I am sorry for not keeping in touch, I know you understand and thanks.....
G-d Bless you
Dox
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Shalom Dox,
I'm so sorry to hear about the death of your beloved dog. 13 years is a good long life for many dogs, from what I understand. I'm sure your dog was very fortunate to have you caring for her. My sister also had to put down her dog. She had a chocolate labrador. Those dogs tend to get arthritis in their hips and legs. He also had a seizure at one point. Anyway, he also lived to be about 13, at which point he could barely walk. So my sister had to put him down. And boy was she sad. So I can definitely understand where you're coming from.
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Hi Lisa, it's good to hear from you again, and I want to thank you for your kind words.
I know what your sister went through, and I am sorry for her, and anyone who has to make this difficult decision of putting a pet down.
Shalom & G-d Bless you Lisa
Dox
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My deepest condolences. Hang in there Dox.
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Thank you Briann.....and May G-d Bless you
Dox
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I have been missing you around the forum republicandox. I will keep you, and your family, in my prayers. I believe you did the right thing for your doxie Haylee. It's just that the right thing is so awfully hard to do sometimes.
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Shalom Dox! It hasn't been the same without you here Sweetie! My heart aches for you, for you what you had to go through. It's been over 14 years for me since losing mine and every time I even THINK about getting a new baby, I remember losing my Cubby and can't bring myself to do it. They say giving them a good home should outweigh the pain you went through, but after all these years, it's still so fresh for me. Please take care of yourself Elizabeth, we miss you and hope all will be well with you soon. I hope your problems become less and less every day for you. Take care and do stop in just to say "Hi!" at least once a week so we know you're ok! (((((((((((((Elizabeth)))))))))))))
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Dox, my condolences on your loss. You were in an extremely difficult position. You did what you thought was for the best for Haylee, going beyond the extra mile over the years in trying to provide Haylee with the best possible life.
One thing to seriously consider is a pet bereavement group. That helped me tremendous many years ago after my favorite cat passed away.
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Dawn, Bullcat and Eb22...it is good to hear from you all....I appreciate your thoughts for me in my sad time.
You guy's are the Best!
Dox
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Dox,
Im sorry about your loss... I have dealt with this with many of my pets over the last 20 years... I have lost almost all my cats which I had 16 years ago, there is only one of those cats left and he may not last another year. It is always difficult losing a loved pet and yet I am always able to move forward and establish a bond with new cats... My youngest inside cat is a lovely female who is so friendly that she waits for me at home... When I get home tonight I know she will be waiting for me at the door...
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I just can't understand Jews who call a person who tries to twist Torah and tries to slam Torah Judaism and goes after Jew girls knowing it's forbbiden "a good person".
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Peters Mother is Jewish
No she's not her dad is Jewish but her mom is Christian
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רון, יש לנו הסכם שלא יהיו התקפות או ויכוחים בשום פנים ואופן!
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רון, יש לנו הסכם שלא יהיו התקפות או ויכוחים בשום פנים ואופן!
בסדר. אני אערוך את ההודעה אבל אני מבקש שתשים לב לכך שהם תוקפים אותי אבל לא אותו. זה לא חלק מההסכם.
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רון, יש לנו הסכם שלא יהיו התקפות או ויכוחים בשום פנים ואופן!
אבל יש הסכם שיתייחסו אליי באופן הוגן!! הם תוקפים אותי כשאני מבקר את המדיניות של JTF אבל לא תוקפים אותו כשהוא תוקף!
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אתה מדבר על הגינות? כשתוקפים אותך יש לך עורך דין - זה אני. אתה יודע כמה שעות ביזבזתי היום על אימיילים בעניין זה? זה חייב להפסק. כי אני לא יכול להמשיך ככה.
למה אתה בפורום האנגלי כל הזמן עכשיו? הפורום העברי הרבה חשוב לנו. אתה מחשיב את הפורום בגלות כיותר חשוב מהפורום בארץ ישראל ח''ו?
אנו צריכים אותך בפורום העברי. שם אף אחד לא יודע מי זה פיטר שמיטר. והעתיד שלנו נמצא בארץ ישראל לא בהונגריה או אף מקום אחר בגלות הארורה.
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רון, יש לנו הסכם שלא יהיו התקפות או ויכוחים בשום פנים ואופן!
אבל יש הסכם שיתייחסו אליי באופן הוגן!! הם תוקפים אותי כשאני מבקר את המדיניות של JTF אבל לא תוקפים אותו כשהוא תוקף!
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אתה מדבר על הגינות? כשתוקפים אותך יש לך עורך דין - זה אני. אתה יודע כמה שעות ביזבזתי היום על אימיילים בעניין זה? זה חייב להפסק. כי אני לא יכול להמשיך ככה.
למה אתה בפורום האנגלי כל הזמן עכשיו? הפורום העברי הרבה חשוב לנו. אתה מחשיב את הפורום בגלות כיותר חשוב מהפורום בארץ ישראל ח''ו?
אנו צריכים אותך בפורום העברי. שם אף אחד לא יודע מי זה פיטר שמיטר. והעתיד שלנו נמצא בארץ ישראל לא בהונגריה או אף מקום אחר בגלות הארורה.
ערכתי את ההודעה. אני עכשיו בפורום האנגלי כדי להראות שאתה לא משקר וגם כי אין אפחד עכשיו בפורום העברי =/
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רון, יש לנו הסכם שלא יהיו התקפות או ויכוחים בשום פנים ואופן!
אבל יש הסכם שיתייחסו אליי באופן הוגן!! הם תוקפים אותי כשאני מבקר את המדיניות של JTF אבל לא תוקפים אותו כשהוא תוקף!
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אתה מדבר על הגינות? כשתוקפים אותך יש לך עורך דין - זה אני. אתה יודע כמה שעות ביזבזתי היום על אימיילים בעניין זה? זה חייב להפסק. כי אני לא יכול להמשיך ככה.
למה אתה בפורום האנגלי כל הזמן עכשיו? הפורום העברי הרבה חשוב לנו. אתה מחשיב את הפורום בגלות כיותר חשוב מהפורום בארץ ישראל ח''ו?
אנו צריכים אותך בפורום העברי. שם אף אחד לא יודע מי זה פיטר שמיטר. והעתיד שלנו נמצא בארץ ישראל לא בהונגריה או אף מקום אחר בגלות הארורה.
ערכתי את ההודעה. אני עכשיו בפורום האנגלי כדי להראות שאתה לא משקר וגם כי אין אפחד עכשיו בפורום העברי =/
בסדר. תודה בני
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Are you two having fun?
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?מה קרה מתווכחים פרטית
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רון, יש לנו הסכם שלא יהיו התקפות או ויכוחים בשום פנים ואופן!
אבל יש הסכם שיתייחסו אליי באופן הוגן!! הם תוקפים אותי כשאני מבקר את המדיניות של JTF אבל לא תוקפים אותו כשהוא תוקף!
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אתה מדבר על הגינות? כשתוקפים אותך יש לך עורך דין - זה אני. אתה יודע כמה שעות ביזבזתי היום על אימיילים בעניין זה? זה חייב להפסק. כי אני לא יכול להמשיך ככה.
למה אתה בפורום האנגלי כל הזמן עכשיו? הפורום העברי הרבה חשוב לנו. אתה מחשיב את הפורום בגלות כיותר חשוב מהפורום בארץ ישראל ח''ו?
אנו צריכים אותך בפורום העברי. שם אף אחד לא יודע מי זה פיטר שמיטר. והעתיד שלנו נמצא בארץ ישראל לא בהונגריה או אף מקום אחר בגלות הארורה.
חיים, האם אי פעם נחשב בעריכת דין? אני בטוח שאתה מקבל את זה אמר הרבה, אבל לך תעשה אחד גדול ואתה תהיה עשיר.
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Just for the record, Peter asked me to ban him. I still have his email if anyone doubts what I am saying.
Our problem was much more serious than some difference of opinion. We don't ban people for simply having a difference of opinion.
Here is what Peter wrote in the Honorable Winged section of the forum:
Ortodox are only majority in Jerusalem. My relatives were there, and one lived in Eilat for 8 years, she saw only a few Ortodox there. I belong to a Reform Zionist Movement in Hungary, and the Israeli ambassador already invited us. We will go to the WZO's congress (World Zionist Organization) in Jerusalem too.
I'm a delegated to the Zionist Federation of Hungary (it is also part of the WZO, and the largest Jewish community in Hungary). There are members who have only a Jewish father, and they have Israeli citizenship and they are Jews too. They really don't care if you are not 100% Jewish.
We got financial support too. We are growing and it is the future. We were at an antifascist demonstration in August, and they laughed me when I talked about JTF and Kahane, and a bit it hurt me. They said that I'm young and very talented and that I should leave alone the JTF as soon as it is possible. They said, they are banned in Israel, they are racists, minority, and shame of the Jews.
But I know a lot Ortodox Jews who told the same about the Kach / JTF / Kahanism. You can't wipe out the Arabs. And if we did, the world would say that we are not different from the nazis. Personally I support the Likud and agree in a lot case with National Union Party. We need a stronger economy, better army (F 35 fighters), and we need alliance with Christian countries, like with the EU, and with USA. We must stop the antisemitism.
I learned a lot from the Hungarian Jews / American Jews, and from Israeli Reformeds.
I'm sorry to say it, but my views changed. There was a girl too who opened my mind too.
End of Peter's quote.
So Peter suddenly announced that he is now part of the self-hating, leftwing, anti-Torah "Reform" movement. Peter's "Reform" movement supports Israeli national suicide, gay marriage, gay and lesbian "rabbis", partial birth abortion, intermarriage, assimilation, and automatic acceptance of almost anyone who claims to be a Jew or who wants to be a Jew (a Reform "conversion" is quite easy considering that the "rabbis" themselves know nothing about real Judaism and reject the Torah).
You might also notice that Peter was praising the Bolshevik establishment flunkies in Hungary who told him that the Kahanists are banned, racists, "a shame on the Jews" and so on. These cowardly Bolsheviks ban the only Jews who tell the truth and offer hope for Jewish survival while at the same time welcoming Muslim terrorist mass murderers into the Knesset. Peter has now discovered that these "politically correct" Bolsheviks were right all along. These are the same establishment traitors whose leader in Hungary was Kastner ysv"z during the holocaust when they literally helped the German Nazis murder hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews just to save their own gutless behinds. Read the book "Perfidy" by Ben Hecht for more information about the Hungarian Jewish establishment that Peter now admires.
When Ron warned me about Peter in PMs, I always disagreed and defended Peter. Everyone on the forum knows how I try to be a peacemaker among JTFers, and how I defend and praise our members. I always did the same with Peter. I was really surprised and saddened when Peter made his sudden announcement. And why did Peter do this? So that he could present himself as Jewish when he chases after Jewish girls.
When Peter joined the "Reform" traitors, he did more than just join a different movement. He signed a pact with the devil.
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We got financial support too. We are growing and it is the future.
>:(
So it is FINANCIAL Support
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It's a pity that Peter ended up so.. Why be so complicated? He knew he was a gentile according to Jewish law. Instead of twisting Judaism to fit his desires and worldview, he could just have dated Hungarian girls and be happy :)
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It's a pity that Peter ended up so.. Why be so complicated? He knew he was a gentile according to Jewish law. Instead of twisting Judaism to fit his desires and worldview, he could just have dated Hungarian girls and be happy :)
Was the girl who "opened his mind" Jewish?
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We will go to the WZO's congress (World Zionist Organization) in Jerusalem too.
this he will get for free >:(
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It's a pity that Peter ended up so.. Why be so complicated? He knew he was a gentile according to Jewish law. Instead of twisting Judaism to fit his desires and worldview, he could just have dated Hungarian girls and be happy :)
Was the girl who "opened his mind" Jewish?
I have no idea. Maybe Jewish who wants to find an idelogical excuse not to observe the commandments, maybe as "Jewish" as he is.
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It's a pity that Peter ended up so.. Why be so complicated? He knew he was a gentile according to Jewish law. Instead of twisting Judaism to fit his desires and worldview, he could just have dated Hungarian girls and be happy :)
Was the girl who "opened his mind" Jewish?
I have no idea. Maybe Jewish who wants to find an idelogical excuse not to observe the commandments, maybe as "Jewish" as he is.
Either way he's as Jewish as Muhammad.
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F-35s suck. Its like the F-16 and F-15, we keep the F-15(like the F-22) for us and very few others and give the crappy F-16 to everyone else.
Leftists keep pushing the piece of crap F-35 over the F-22 because of "cost." So basically American pilots, the best American fighter pilots to be exact, have a low price in the books of lefists.
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I just can't understand Jews who call a person who tries to twist Torah and tries to slam Torah Judaism and goes after Jew girls knowing it's forbbiden "a good person".
You seem to see ill intent behind every mistake or misguidance but I don't. I think Peter is mistaken and misguided (phony reform Jews may have influenced him). But he doesn't try to twist Torah, he has too little knowledge about Torah.
I mean you know it yourself that a Jew without any knowledge of Torah is prone to make mistakes. Peter isn't a Jew but he also makes mistakes, but not out of malice.
Ron, I think you are angry at Peter for not listening to you. It is a fact that you can't always reason with people no matter how hard you try. But with your attitude which is often hostile, it is almost guarantied that you couldn't convince people to see reason.
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Peter isn't a Jew but he also makes mistakes, but not out of malice.
You're right, he is not a bad person. Actually, I have pity for him. I guess he's having some problems with girls and is ready to accept the views of any girl who will agree to date him. When he finds a decent Gentile girlfriend, he would be happier and more stable.
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I just can't understand Jews who call a person who tries to twist Torah and tries to slam Torah Judaism and goes after Jew girls knowing it's forbbiden "a good person".
You seem to see ill intent behind every mistake or misguidance but I don't. I think Peter is mistaken and misguided (phony reform Jews may have influenced him). But he doesn't try to twist Torah, he has too little knowledge about Torah.
I mean you know it yourself that a Jew without any knowledge of Torah is prone to make mistakes. Peter isn't a Jew but he also makes mistakes, but not out of malice.
Ron, I think you are angry at Peter for not listening to you. It is a fact that you can't always reason with people no matter how hard you try. But with your attitude which is often hostile, it is almost guarantied that you couldn't convince people to see reason.
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Zelhar, I also tried to convince Peter to be satisfied with being a righteous Gentile. And believe me, I was very kind whenever I spoke to him.
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I just can't understand Jews who call a person who tries to twist Torah and tries to slam Torah Judaism and goes after Jew girls knowing it's forbbiden "a good person".
You seem to see ill intent behind every mistake or misguidance but I don't. I think Peter is mistaken and misguided (phony reform Jews may have influenced him). But he doesn't try to twist Torah, he has too little knowledge about Torah.
I mean you know it yourself that a Jew without any knowledge of Torah is prone to make mistakes. Peter isn't a Jew but he also makes mistakes, but not out of malice.
Ron, I think you are angry at Peter for not listening to you. It is a fact that you can't always reason with people no matter how hard you try. But with your attitude which is often hostile, it is almost guarantied that you couldn't convince people to see reason.
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Zelhar, I also tried to convince Peter to be satisfied with being a righteous Gentile. And believe me, I was very kind whenever I spoke to him.
Chaim, I agree with most of what you said, and avoided saying, about Peter.
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It's a pity that Peter ended up so.. Why be so complicated? He knew he was a gentile according to Jewish law. Instead of twisting Judaism to fit his desires and worldview, he could just have dated Hungarian girls and be happy :)
Was the girl who "opened his mind" Jewish?
I have no idea. Maybe Jewish who wants to find an idelogical excuse not to observe the commandments, maybe as "Jewish" as he is.
Either way he's as Jewish as Muhammad.
Can you please stop bashing people like an infantile person,
It doesnt matter if he is jewish or not, most of the people on this forum are not Jewish,
Ok so he called himself a Jew while he may not be one, you dont have to take seriously everything he says, but he was still doing lots of good things.
There is a way to teach misguided people like him, and most of the people here seem not to have this ability.
Just remember the more you bash and rebuke people the more they will turn heretic on you.
The right way is being patient, sharing informative things and serving a good example.
Instead of amputating damaged limbs try to heal them.
I am not even going to comment about the mohammad thing.
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?מה קרה מתווכחים פרטית
prati i don't have an Hebrew writing program or 'tochnit' but i speak write and read Hebrew [Ivrit]
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It's a pity that Peter ended up so.. Why be so complicated? He knew he was a gentile according to Jewish law. Instead of twisting Judaism to fit his desires and worldview, he could just have dated Hungarian girls and be happy :)
Was the girl who "opened his mind" Jewish?
I have no idea. Maybe Jewish who wants to find an idelogical excuse not to observe the commandments, maybe as "Jewish" as he is.
Either way he's as Jewish as Muhammad.
Can you please stop bashing people like an infantile person,
It doesnt matter if he is jewish or not, most of the people on this forum are not Jewish,
Ok so he called himself a Jew while he may not be one, you dont have to take seriously everything he says, but he was still doing lots of good things.
There is a way to teach misguided people like him, and most of the people here seem not to have this ability.
Just remember the more you bash and rebuke people the more they will turn heretic on you.
The right way is being patient, sharing informative things and serving a good example.
Instead of amputating damaged limbs try to heal them.
I am not even going to comment about the mohammad thing.
Can you please get a life?
Stop worshipping Peter. He knows what he's doing. Both me and Chaim explained to him that it's forbbiden to do what he was trying and is trying to do. Now he even makes fun of the cancer illness in order to get some attention.
I don't care how many vids he has done, nothing can be compared to this Chilul HaShem. Please understand the situation and get a head before you critize something you don't understand anything about.
He also said by himself that only Orthodoxy is right and "Reform" and "Conservative" "Judaism" is wrong.
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אתה חבר בפורום הימין האמיתי? מה שם המשתמש שלך?
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אתה חבר בפורום הימין האמיתי? מה שם המשתמש שלך?
Ani lo, ain le tocnit b'Ivrit
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אתה חבר בפורום הימין האמיתי? מה שם המשתמש שלך?
Ani lo ain le tocnit b'Ivrit
לא אתה אחי
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It's a pity that Peter ended up so.. Why be so complicated? He knew he was a gentile according to Jewish law. Instead of twisting Judaism to fit his desires and worldview, he could just have dated Hungarian girls and be happy :)
Was the girl who "opened his mind" Jewish?
I have no idea. Maybe Jewish who wants to find an idelogical excuse not to observe the commandments, maybe as "Jewish" as he is.
Either way he's as Jewish as Muhammad.
Can you please stop bashing people like an infantile person,
It doesnt matter if he is jewish or not, most of the people on this forum are not Jewish,
Ok so he called himself a Jew while he may not be one, you dont have to take seriously everything he says, but he was still doing lots of good things.
There is a way to teach misguided people like him, and most of the people here seem not to have this ability.
Just remember the more you bash and rebuke people the more they will turn heretic on you.
The right way is being patient, sharing informative things and serving a good example.
Instead of amputating damaged limbs try to heal them.
I am not even going to comment about the mohammad thing.
We don't bash him because he is not Jewish. Personally, I am disappointed with him because I had an impression that he understands the issue and 2 legitimate options he has. Chaim talked to him in private, I am sure Chaim was kind and informative.
Peter has the identity crisis, because Hungarians think he's Jewish and Jews think he's a gentile. It is not his fault, he was born with it. Therefore we must have maximum tolerance and understanding of him. And we did so here at JTF.
But beside the motives that drive a person, there are also consequences of his/her actions. And if the consequences are grave enough, they make the motives less relevant. If a person joins Hamas or al-Qaeda because of unhappy love, his unappy love doesn't bother me much. The fact that he is a member of a criminal organization that wants to murder Jews and other decent people bothers me much more.
Joining the reform movement is not much better than joining Hamas. The ones seek physical death of the Jews, the others spiritual one.
The only thing I agree that we must stop bashing him is because it is unfair to do it while he is banned and cannot respond. We should pray that he leave this wicked gang and either live as a normal good gentile or convert to true Judaism. Both options are good. In the meantime,
I think this best thing we can do is to stop discussing his at all.
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Hahahaha you cant see the paradox in your words cant you?
First you say he is jewish like mohammad and that he doesnt understand anything about Judaism but then you give every word he is saying about Judaism so much attention. Why bother? why not just be smart and let the guy fight and increase the awareness of Israel and the Jewish people's Cause.
Do you know how many people out there hate any kind of Jews, reforms or not? so here you see one guy who thinks reforms are better and you try to bash him so hard, while saying he is not Jewish.
You cant see what you are doing with this behaviour, you are just turning more people against you, Like I said, the more you rebuke them the more they turn heretic on you.
And the fact you and Chaim told him its bad doesnt mean he knows what he is doing, with this type of attitude i cant see how anyone will listen to you.
Peter is already banned but with this kind of bashing on people you are losing lots of strength among gentiles instead of letting them fight for you and thats a shame sir.
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@Ron Ben Michael
Hahahaha you cant see the paradox in your words cant you?
First you say he is jewish like mohammad and that he doesnt understand anything about Judaism but then you give every word he is saying about Judaism so much attention. Why bother? why not just be smart and let the guy fight and increase the awareness of Israel and the Jewish people's Cause.
Do you know how many people out there hate any kind of Jews, reforms or not? so here you see one guy who thinks reforms are better and you try to bash him so hard, while saying he is not Jewish.
You cant see what you are doing with this behaviour, you are just turning more people against you, Like I said, the more you rebuke them the more they turn heretic on you.
And the fact you and Chaim told him its bad doesnt mean he knows what he is doing, with this type of attitude i cant see how anyone will listen to you.
Peter is already banned but with this kind of bashing on people you are losing lots of strength among gentiles instead of letting them fight for you and thats a shame sir.
No it's quite the opposite. The fact that he doesn't understand Judaism doesn't mean that he doesn't what Torah is. I don't care if about what he think is his definition of Judaism. We've explained to him that his actions are wrong and he didn't care. Some ladies know for sure that he was chasing them.
He once even admitted, before he got nuts, that he thinks that Orthodoxy is right. So I can't understand really why are you defending him. You can't see it but in the topic in the Honorable Winged Member section shows that everybody saw he didn't see. We tried to convince him even more. He knows what he's saying and knows what he's standing up against.
If he ties his activity with such organizations who oppose any sign of Torah, and knows what that means, I can't say anything else but --- you have no respect HaShem and for your own sisters.
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You may as well give up VforVendetta, I'm not even Jewish and I understand what you are saying. God bless you for trying!
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Why was Americanhero banned?
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Why was Americanhero banned?
Dont ask... It may open another can of worms...
Let us just say that he had problems with Serbian members due to his Croatian heritage..
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Why was Americanhero banned?
Dont ask... It may open another can of worms...
Let us just say that he had problems with Serbian members due to his Croatian heritage..
Ah, well then. You are right.
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Uh hello! This thread is supposed to be about Republican Dox, and her sick dog that she had to put down. Why is Peter being brought into it? What does it have to do with him?
Peter is banned. He's no longer part of JTF. What's with the continual vindictiveness?
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Uh hello! This thread is supposed to be about Republican Dox, and her sick dog that she had to put down. Why is Peter being brought into it? What does it have to do with him?
Peter is banned. He's no longer part of JTF. What's with the continual vindictiveness?
You are right Lisa, this was supposed to be about me.
Big Hug for Lisa ~~~> (((((((((((((((( LISA )))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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welcome back Dox
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Thank you Hindu and G-d Bless you!
Dox
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Dox this is for you
"I Thought I Saw You Here Today..."
We were so very close, we two
but I had to let you go
I hope that you can understand
it was because I loved you so.
No more pain, no aching limbs
no earthly ties that bind
No dimming eyes, no sleepless nights
you've left them all behind
I lost you many months ago,
and gained a broken heart
Yet I feel you close to me
although we are apart
Sometimes when I'm all alone,
I feel you by my side,
As if to try and comfort me,
through all the nights I've cried
I thought I saw you here today,
out the corner of my eye,
Felt soft brown fur against my skin,
heard the faintest sigh.
So wait for me at Rainbow Bridge
Until we meet once more
then we will walk together again
through Heaven's open door...
Ó Shiela Seymour
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אתה חבר בפורום הימין האמיתי? מה שם המשתמש שלך?
No, I'm not a member there.
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It's a pity that Peter ended up so.. Why be so complicated? He knew he was a gentile according to Jewish law. Instead of twisting Judaism to fit his desires and worldview, he could just have dated Hungarian girls and be happy :)
Was the girl who "opened his mind" Jewish?
I have no idea. Maybe Jewish who wants to find an idelogical excuse not to observe the commandments, maybe as "Jewish" as he is.
Either way he's as Jewish as Muhammad.
Can you please stop bashing people like an infantile person,
It doesnt matter if he is jewish or not, most of the people on this forum are not Jewish,
Ok so he called himself a Jew while he may not be one, you dont have to take seriously everything he says, but he was still doing lots of good things.
There is a way to teach misguided people like him, and most of the people here seem not to have this ability.
Just remember the more you bash and rebuke people the more they will turn heretic on you.
The right way is being patient, sharing informative things and serving a good example.
Instead of amputating damaged limbs try to heal them.
I am not even going to comment about the mohammad thing.
We don't bash him because he is not Jewish. Personally, I am disappointed with him because I had an impression that he understands the issue and 2 legitimate options he has. Chaim talked to him in private, I am sure Chaim was kind and informative.
Peter has the identity crisis, because Hungarians think he's Jewish and Jews think he's a gentile. It is not his fault, he was born with it. Therefore we must have maximum tolerance and understanding of him. And we did so here at JTF.
But beside the motives that drive a person, there are also consequences of his/her actions. And if the consequences are grave enough, they make the motives less relevant. If a person joins Hamas or al-Qaeda because of unhappy love, his unappy love doesn't bother me much. The fact that he is a member of a criminal organization that wants to murder Jews and other decent people bothers me much more.
Joining the reform movement is not much better than joining Hamas. The ones seek physical death of the Jews, the others spiritual one.
The only thing I agree that we must stop bashing him is because it is unfair to do it while he is banned and cannot respond. We should pray that he leave this wicked gang and either live as a normal good gentile or convert to true Judaism. Both options are good. In the meantime,
I think this best thing we can do is to stop discussing his at all.
"Joining the reform movement is not much better than joining Hamas. The ones seek physical death of the Jews, the others spiritual one." Best quote ever. You are a genius! :clap: :clap:
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Uh hello! This thread is supposed to be about Republican Dox, and her sick dog that she had to put down. Why is Peter being brought into it? What does it have to do with him?
Peter is banned. He's no longer part of JTF. What's with the continual vindictiveness?
You are right Lisa, this was supposed to be about me.
Big Hug for Lisa ~~~> (((((((((((((((( LISA )))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Hey, I started this thread,lol. Secondly, why do all my threads get twisted up and fought about? >:( :'(
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Uh hello! This thread is supposed to be about Republican Dox, and her sick dog that she had to put down. Why is Peter being brought into it? What does it have to do with him?
Peter is banned. He's no longer part of JTF. What's with the continual vindictiveness?
You are right Lisa, this was supposed to be about me.
Big Hug for Lisa ~~~> (((((((((((((((( LISA )))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Hey, I started this thread,lol. Secondly, why do all my threads get twisted up and fought about? >:( :'(
It is a sign of how much you are loved...
Love is wonderful, but you don't truly know love till you have fought against those who you love...
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Hi Muman, thanks for your kind words. I know you have also lost beloved pets so you understand what I am going through. You have a big Heart for animals Muman, and thanks for being such a great Forum brother to me.
Shalom & May G-d Bless you
Dox
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Hello Boyana, the poem was lovely and brought tears to my eyes.
Thank you for thinking of me Boyana and May G-d Bless you!
Dox
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Thank you Mo for the appreciation.
I like the smart way you handle tough interfaith situations.
It seems the fighting season has come to its end. Let's hope it was a last one.
:dance:
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Thank you Mo for the appreciation.
I like the smart way you handle tough interfaith situations.
It seems the fighting season has come to its end. Let's hope it was a last one.
:dance:
:-* :-* :-* :-*HAHAHA Only a frum Jew 8;) with a similar mindset as mine would say that - - - and both of those things :teach: are rare! ;) ;) ;)