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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: muman613 on January 21, 2010, 01:55:13 PM
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Im sorry for being off topic but this afternoon I am really hating on the smell of pork ribs... Where I work there is a cafeteria and today they are serving pork ribs... I would have loved to have them, they smell SOOO GOOD! If I weren't so careful I might accidentally find myself chowing on some... But I must withhold this desire, against the delicious smell which is emmited from the cafeteria...
I wish I didn't have to be tortured like this... If only I was working at a kosher company...
I know, everyone will tell me to move to Israel and find a religious community.... I wish I could do this, and it is in my long term plans...
Meanwhile I suffer the delicious smell of pork ribs...
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I'm sorry you're having to suffer like this Muman. Don't begrudge other people their happiness though because it's not forbidden for them.
Do you think maybe this is a test from God and your will to resist will be honored?
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I'm sorry you're having to suffer like this Muman. Don't begrudge other people their happiness though because it's not forbidden for them.
Do you think maybe this is a test from G-d and your will to resist will be honored?
I am not angry at them for eating it.... As you said, I am being tested... I accept that...
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Have some beef ribs my friend!!!!!!!!!
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Have some beef ribs my friend!!!!!!!!!
Mmmmmm sounds good...
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There's actually a trade show that focuses on kosher foods. I think it's called Kosherfest. Maybe you should try and go to it.
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Im sorry for being off topic but this afternoon I am really hating on the smell of pork ribs... Where I work there is a cafeteria and today they are serving pork ribs... I would have loved to have them, they smell SOOO GOOD! If I weren't so careful I might accidentally find myself chowing on some... But I must withhold this desire, against the delicious smell which is emmited from the cafeteria...
I wish I didn't have to be tortured like this... If only I was working at a kosher company...
I know, everyone will tell me to move to Israel and find a religious community.... I wish I could do this, and it is in my long term plans...
Meanwhile I suffer the delicious smell of pork ribs...
Bro, I have a McDonalds down the block. Some days, the second I walk outside, I smell the delicious stuff and am tempted. Every day. Right on the block. I know exactly what you mean.
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I go through the same exact thing everyday. Just think about the reward for refusing this type of food.
What smells and taste good is the most horrible stuff. Everytime I feel "hungry" or the desire to munch on something I just have a few full glasses of water and some sunflower seeds
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Can't you fix and prepare kosher beef ribs at home?
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Yeah . U wanna come over for some?
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I go through the same exact thing everyday. Just think about the reward for refusing this type of food.
What smells and taste good is the most horrible stuff. Everytime I feel "hungry" or the desire to munch on something I just have a few full glasses of water and some sunflower seeds
What you mentioned reminds me of what former Buffalo Bills player and long time ESPN Football Announcer Paul Maguire said after he had a heart attack and realized he couldn't continue his previous eating regime:
http://www.wrightsvillebeachmagazine.com/articlesearch.asp?aid=167&iid=31&sud=27&terms=Landfall
Determining whether a food was allowed or verboten was pretty simple, Maguire said: Take a bite. If it tastes good, spit it out.
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I go through the same exact thing everyday. Just think about the reward for refusing this type of food.
What smells and taste good is the most horrible stuff. Everytime I feel "hungry" or the desire to munch on something I just have a few full glasses of water and some sunflower seeds
What you mentioned reminds me of what former Buffalo Bills player and long time ESPN Football Announcer Paul Maguire said after he had a heart attack and realized he couldn't continue his previous eating regime:
http://www.wrightsvillebeachmagazine.com/articlesearch.asp?aid=167&iid=31&sud=27&terms=Landfall
Determining whether a food was allowed or verboten was pretty simple, Maguire said: Take a bite. If it tastes good, spit it out.
Kosher food is good, some of it REALLY good, some of it REALLY REALLY good....u get the point. But if I want to eat quickly for 99 cents or something like that, kosher food can't help me.
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Mo2388, one suggestion is to ask Chaim on an upcoming " Ask JTF" program about what he does. Chaim has mentioned many times that he's on the move during the day and that he's health conscious, in addition to eating only Kosher Food.
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Mo2388, one suggestion is to ask Chaim on an upcoming " Ask JTF" program about what he does. Chaim has mentioned many times that he's on the move during the day and that he's health conscious, in addition to eating only Kosher Food.
I keep strict kosher, Baruch Hashem. But I miss and crave the treif I used to devour.
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I go through the same exact thing everyday. Just think about the reward for refusing this type of food.
What smells and taste good is the most horrible stuff. Everytime I feel "hungry" or the desire to munch on something I just have a few full glasses of water and some sunflower seeds
You're not Jewish; why do you need to resist unkosher food?
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I go through the same exact thing everyday. Just think about the reward for refusing this type of food.
What smells and taste good is the most horrible stuff. Everytime I feel "hungry" or the desire to munch on something I just have a few full glasses of water and some sunflower seeds
You're not Jewish; why do you need to resist unkosher food?
I think he means resisting bad food i.e. unhealthy.
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I can't stand that. Beef is worse. I've been a vegetarian since I was a kid. A lot counterjihadists worship pork and pigs. They're smart animals, but they're gross, too. I think Jews have it right on the issue of pigs. You should tolerate them and not be insane about them like Mohammedans, and even use them to sniff for bombs and truffles and stuff because they're cool like that, but don't eat them. They roll around in their own [censored]. If you eat that you'll pretty much eat anything.
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Im sorry for being off topic but this afternoon I am really hating on the smell of pork ribs... Where I work there is a cafeteria and today they are serving pork ribs... I would have loved to have them, they smell SOOO GOOD! If I weren't so careful I might accidentally find myself chowing on some... But I must withhold this desire, against the delicious smell which is emmited from the cafeteria...
I wish I didn't have to be tortured like this... If only I was working at a kosher company...
I know, everyone will tell me to move to Israel and find a religious community.... I wish I could do this, and it is in my long term plans...
Meanwhile I suffer the delicious smell of pork ribs...
Beef ribs can be done up nice and they are just as tasty as the pork ones.
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I think he means resisting bad food i.e. unhealthy.
He implied that it's wrong for him to eat pork. I am pretty sure MuslimSlayer is a Catholic, so I don't know why this would be.
I await his response.
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Not non kosher foods. But Fatty foods like pork / burgers french fries stuff like that. So I can relate.
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Not a catholic at all either. I've pretty much have grown up secular.
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I gave up pork more than 15 years ago when I only had the very slight idea about converting. Afterwards, when I started the conversion process I tried to keep strict kosher as far as I could. I even baked my own bread. Now it's more than 5 five years since I decided to remain a Gentile. I don't keep kosher (shechitah, Melichah, Hashgacha) but I still avoid pork and shellfish ( and all animals declared impure by the Torah). I know that Law does not apply to me. I wonder if it has any sense now. But I keep it for two personal reasons:
1- Western society rejects nearly all non-kosher animals (reptiles, horse, insects, rats) but accepts pigs. Why eating only one while we reject all others? Perhaps it has to do with anti-semitism? Perhaps Christian Europeans just accepted pork not to seem Jewish....
2- I have heard that what we eat influences our mind. Perhaps it only applies to Jews. Perhaps it's only forbidden to Jews but can affect also a Gentile mind, only that it's not a sin for him. If the latter is the case, I certainly don't want my mind to be changed after 15 years.
Now, Muman, you are a Jew, your soul is infinetely more worthy than the pleasure of eating some forbidden food that you may imagine tasty. It's easier to abstain from pork than to abstain from other temptations. Noahides are forbidden sexual immorality. And what about a man strongly in love with a forbidden woman, or a gay or lesbian? Your temptation is one of easiest to overcome. You are not alone. Everyone faces stronger temptations than that. And if you feel weak, pray the psalms and turn to H" Baruch Hu. If you eat pork, chas veShalom, you will not only sin, your mind and body with be contaminated with something incompatible with your Neshama. It's horrible to feel that your body, soul and brain is partly constituted by something contrary to your own being!
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I gave up pork more than 15 years ago when I only had the very slight idea about converting. Afterwards, when I started the conversion process I tried to keep strict kosher as far as I could. I even baked my own bread. Now it's more than 5 five years since I decided to remain a Gentile. I don't keep kosher (shechitah, Melichah, Hashgacha) but I still avoid pork and shellfish ( and all animals declared impure by the Torah). I know that Law does not apply to me. I wonder if it has any sense now. But I keep it for two personal reasons:
1- Western society rejects nearly all non-kosher animals (reptiles, horse, insects, rats) but accepts pigs. Why eating only one while we reject all others? Perhaps it has to do with anti-semitism? Perhaps Christian Europeans just accepted pork not to seem Jewish....
2- I have heard that what we eat influences our mind. Perhaps it only applies to Jews. Perhaps it's only forbidden to Jews but can affect also a Gentile mind, only that it's not a sin for him. If the latter is the case, I certainly don't want my mind to be changed after 15 years.
Now, Muman, you are a Jew, your soul is infinetely more worthy than the pleasure of eating some forbidden food that you may imagine tasty. It's easier to abstain from pork than to abstain from other temptations. Noahides are forbidden sexual immorality. And what about a man strongly in love with a forbidden woman, or a gay or lesbian? Your temptation is one of easiest to overcome. You are not alone. Everyone faces stronger temptations than that. And if you feel weak, pray the psalms and turn to H" Baruch Hu. If you eat pork, chas veShalom, you will not only sin, your mind and body with be contaminated with something incompatible with your Neshama. It's horrible to feel that your body, soul and brain is partly constituted by something contrary to your own being!
Actually, non-kosher food is my biggest temptation? Why? Because unlike "sexual experiences", I will never be able to eat treif again. At least sexually, I will be married one day. That's why my tyva for treif is greater than giluy arayos.
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Not non kosher foods. But Fatty foods like pork / burgers french fries stuff like that. So I can relate.
Chaim will disagree but I think it's important to point out that there are different kinds of fat: trans fat (horrible, evil stuff, it's basically Vaseline, it stays in your arteries forever and is what causes the majority of heart attacks/strokes), saturated fat (animal fat; not necessarily bad, but very rich and full of calories), polyunsaturated fat (liquid soybean/corn/canola, etc. oil, which isn't unhealthy, but doesn't particularly help your body out either), and monounsaturated fat (olive and fish oil, which is great for your heart and brain and fights aging).
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You, Jews, have something a million of times better than any food. You have the Shabbat (which if forbidden to us). Keeping Shabbat properly, saying the Kidush, feeling the unification of Sephirah Malchus with the other six Sephirot which are in the Jewish soul (seven of the ten Sephitot are inside your souls), thus bieng able to feel beyond time and space, it's all much worth than an ephimerous pleasure of eating treif. Be strong and protect your Neshamot!
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Not non kosher foods. But Fatty foods like pork / burgers french fries stuff like that. So I can relate.
Chaim will disagree but I think it's important to point out that there are different kinds of fat: trans fat (horrible, evil stuff, it's basically Vaseline, it stays in your arteries forever and is what causes the majority of heart attacks/strokes), saturated fat (animal fat; not necessarily bad, but very rich and full of calories), polyunsaturated fat (liquid soybean/corn/canola, etc. oil, which isn't unhealthy, but doesn't particularly help your body out either), and monounsaturated fat (olive and fish oil, which is great for your heart and brain and fights aging).
Corn is good? I thought it was terrible.
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You, Jews, have something a million of times better than any food. You have the Shabbat (which if forbidden to us). Keeping Shabbat properly, saying the Kidush, feeling the unification of Sephirah Malchus with the other six Sephirot which are in the Jewish soul (seven of the ten Sephitot are inside your souls), thus bieng able to feel beyond time and space, it's all much worth than an ephimerous pleasure of eating treif. Be strong and protect your Neshamot!
Us Jews, huh? anti-semite :laugh: :laugh: :::D :::D Kidding. But seriously, you are 100 % correct, but dude, the yetzer hara is so strong. You know, for a goy, you're pretty Jewish.
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The issue to me, as a Baal Teshuva, one whos observance of Jewish law now exceeds the observance of my parents, is that I have acquired a taste for some of the forbidden food. Some say it is easier to stay away from these forbidden foods if you have never experienced it. Having a taste for something and remembering how it tasted and smelled is hard on a Baal Teshuva. This is why I get sensitive when people discuss forbidden foods such as Cheeseburgers and Pork Ribs, etc...
I just want to remind all Jews that there is much merit in keeping these dietary laws... But gentiles will never really know the power required to abstain from foods which we have grown up with.
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Be strong! Don't eat the pork chops, they're not that tasty... Too fatty...
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Corn is good? I thought it was terrible.
I have never heard anything other than that it is neutral. It has historically made up 90% of the diet of persons living in the Americas.
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But gentiles will never really know the power required to abstain from foods which we have grown up with.
There are some Gentiles who are kashrut to various degrees, such as the Adventist sect of Christianity. I consider them to be a borderline cult, though.
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The issue to me, as a Baal Teshuva, one whos observance of Jewish law now exceeds the observance of my parents, is that I have acquired a taste for some of the forbidden food. Some say it is easier to stay away from these forbidden foods if you have never experienced it. Having a taste for something and remembering how it tasted and smelled is hard on a Baal Teshuva. This is why I get sensitive when people discuss forbidden foods such as Cheeseburgers and Pork Ribs, etc...
I just want to remind all Jews that there is much merit in keeping these dietary laws... But gentiles will never really know the power required to abstain from foods which we have grown up with.
ditto about the sensitivity part.....
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Corn is good? I thought it was terrible.
I have never heard anything other than that it is neutral. It has historically made up 90% of the diet of persons living in the Americas.
Well....corn syrup is bad....doesn't it come corn?
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If I smell food that I cannot eat, but has a pleasant sent... I like to think about how "burning fat in the Temple smells pleasing to The Lord" - I think this concept is painted out in Leviticus.
Although I am sure G-d would not want any pork items sacrificed to him, it's just I imagine burnt fat of any type, kosher or not, would smell similar. - Heck, I am not even sure if it's bacon/pork/ham I smell my neighbors cooking, verily, it may be 100% kosher food.
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Well....corn syrup is bad....doesn't it come corn?
Corn syrup is liquid sugar basically. I am not even sure that it actually comes from corn. Corn syrup is harmless (though a lot of it will make you fat, like any calorie source).
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mmmmmm pork.
Tastes like human.
How about some kosher pork?
I think what they do is drain the blood out.
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WHile I love Kosher food, I am secular and love endulging in Pork Ribs. Baby back ribs are great. But thats just me.
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I love venison and moose meat.
By the way, is crocodile kosher? I have seen crocodile meat in the frozen section of a supermarket.
What about whale and seal?
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I love venison and moose meat.
By the way, is crocodile kosher? I have seen crocodile meat in the frozen section of a supermarket.
What about whale and seal?
None of those is kosher.
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I love venison and moose meat.
By the way, is crocodile kosher? I have seen crocodile meat in the frozen section of a supermarket.
What about whale and seal?
And for the record, whale and seal are too cute to eat. and smart.
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I love venison and moose meat.
By the way, is crocodile kosher? I have seen crocodile meat in the frozen section of a supermarket.
What about whale and seal?
None of those is kosher.
Venison and moose are kosher, surely? Both have split hooves and chew cud.
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I love venison and moose meat.
By the way, is crocodile kosher? I have seen crocodile meat in the frozen section of a supermarket.
What about whale and seal?
mmmm mmm mmmmmm whale!
I've had whale and seal. Tastes great!
Dolphin! Cat, dog!
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I love venison and moose meat.
By the way, is crocodile kosher? I have seen crocodile meat in the frozen section of a supermarket.
What about whale and seal?
mmmm mmm mmmmmm whale!
I've had whale and seal. Tastes great!
Dolphin! Cat, dog!
Dolphin, cat, and dog I wouldn't eat. I had whale once. It wasn't particularly tasty. I've heard that seal is very tasty, but Ive never seen it in the stores. Maybe they sell it in Norway and iceland.
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Just kidding. I've never had any of the above. Except cow and pig.
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I love venison and moose meat.
By the way, is crocodile kosher? I have seen crocodile meat in the frozen section of a supermarket.
What about whale and seal?
None of those is kosher.
Venison and moose are kosher, surely? Both have split hooves and chew cud.
I was referring to the latter 3.