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Title: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 21, 2010, 06:21:29 PM: to VEGETARIANISM! :o What did you think I meant? :laugh: It seems meat and chicken are giving me stomach aches, so I think I'm going to eat only vegetarian. Have you ever heard of somebody having stomach problems from fleishigs? My mom said she is going to get an all vegetarian cookbook.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on January 21, 2010, 06:55:34 PM: ...to Islam.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 21, 2010, 06:59:54 PM: Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on January 21, 2010, 06:55:34 PM
...to Islam.

:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on January 21, 2010, 07:03:32 PM: I think Vegetarians can have a perfectly healthy life style!
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 21, 2010, 07:05:19 PM: Quote from: Confederate Kahanist on January 21, 2010, 07:03:32 PM
I think Vegetarians can have a perfectly healthy life style!

Maybe I'll start my own blog...... :celebrate:
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: muman613 on January 21, 2010, 07:13:53 PM: I could not live without a healthy dose of Beef and chicken... Just eating veggies sounds awful to me... Those hippies I know who have tried to eat only vegan usually give it up within 2 years...
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: serbian army on January 21, 2010, 07:16:17 PM: Quote from: muman613 on January 21, 2010, 07:13:53 PM
I could not live without a healthy dose of Beef and chicken... Just eating veggies sounds awful to me... Those hippies I know who have tried to eat only vegan usually give it up within 2 years...

I feel the same way :laugh:
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 21, 2010, 07:19:08 PM: I don't WANT to do it....but meat and chicken had been giving me gas and diarrhea for a while now. I'm going to see m Dr. soon, and I'm going to finish the rest of the basar in my house first (I don't want to waste it), but as soon as the basar is finished, I will not eat it. And I'm not going to eat JUST veggies. I will eat cheese, fish, starch, and fruit, too.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: TruthSpreader on January 21, 2010, 07:27:10 PM: Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on January 21, 2010, 06:55:34 PM
...to Islam.

That's what I was thinking.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: New Yorker on January 21, 2010, 07:50:29 PM: DON'T CONVERT!!! To vegetarianism!!! Seriously,

Meat and poultry isn't hurting you, meat and poultry is very benign, it's gotta be something else. Don't go vegetarian, go Paleo! By that I mean the Paleo Diet, it is the diet of the hunter/gatherer, it is very healthy. I highly recommend it, and I practice what I preach because I've been following it religiously (does that mean I converted? LOL). Since I've been on it, I lost bodyfat, and my joints that used to ache have stopped aching.

http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Weight-Healthy-Designed/dp/0471267554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264126430&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Weight-Healthy-Designed/dp/0471267554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264126430&sr=8-1)

http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/ (http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/)

Humans in the modern industrialized world eat a lot of food that the human body is not designed to deal with. Some of these foods include, milk, starch (eg rice, bread, beans), fatty/salty meats, sugar; all no-no's. These are the foods that cause a load of the diseases people are plagued with.

Here's what you should eat. LEAN meat, fish, poultry, Vegetables, Fruit. And that's it, if it's not Lean meat, a vegetable or a fruit don't eat it. This is what to eat if you want to be healthy, but I bet you already intuitively KNEW THAT ALREADY.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: nopeaceforland on January 21, 2010, 08:02:59 PM: Thank G-d Mo! I thought you were going to say that you were tired of being a dude. Don't scare us like that!
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on January 21, 2010, 08:09:26 PM: Quote from: New Yorker on January 21, 2010, 07:50:29 PM
go Paleo!

I thought you meant white trailer trash kkk Peleocon like fag buchanus and Rob Stark lol. :::D
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: New Yorker on January 21, 2010, 08:16:40 PM: Quote from: Confederate Kahanist on January 21, 2010, 08:09:26 PM
Quote from: New Yorker on January 21, 2010, 07:50:29 PM
go Paleo!

I thought you meant white trailer trash kkk Peleocon like fag buchanus and Rob Stark lol. :::D

Paleo Diet! ;D

But seriously, it's very good for you, you'll get lean and feel great! 8)

And for you Jooz in the audience, it makes staying kosher VERY EASY, because there is no dairy at all.

Meat, vegetable, fruit. Couldn't be simpler.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 21, 2010, 08:27:18 PM: Quote from: New Yorker on January 21, 2010, 07:50:29 PM
DON'T CONVERT!!! To vegetarianism!!! Seriously,

Meat and poultry isn't hurting you, meat and poultry is very benign, it's gotta be something else. Don't go vegetarian, go Paleo! By that I mean the Paleo Diet, it is the diet of the hunter/gatherer, it is very healthy. I highly recommend it, and I practice what I preach because I've been following it religiously (does that mean I converted? LOL). Since I've been on it, I lost bodyfat, and my joints that used to ache have stopped aching.

http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Weight-Healthy-Designed/dp/0471267554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264126430&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Weight-Healthy-Designed/dp/0471267554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264126430&sr=8-1)

http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/ (http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/)

Humans in the modern industrialized world eat a lot of food that the human body is not designed to deal with. Some of these foods include, milk, starch (eg rice, bread, beans), fatty/salty meats, sugar; all no-no's. These are the foods that cause a load of the diseases people are plagued with.

Here's what you should eat. LEAN meat, fish, poultry, Vegetables, Fruit. And that's it, if it's not Lean meat, a vegetable or a fruit don't eat it. This is what to eat if you want to be healthy, but I bet you already intuitively KNEW THAT ALREADY.

Yes but every time I have meat or chicken I get gas or diarrhea....so I want to see how my body responds without that stuff.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: New Yorker on January 21, 2010, 08:49:44 PM: Quote from: Mo2388 on January 21, 2010, 08:27:18 PM
Quote from: New Yorker on January 21, 2010, 07:50:29 PM
DON'T CONVERT!!! To vegetarianism!!! Seriously,

Meat and poultry isn't hurting you, meat and poultry is very benign, it's gotta be something else. Don't go vegetarian, go Paleo! By that I mean the Paleo Diet, it is the diet of the hunter/gatherer, it is very healthy. I highly recommend it, and I practice what I preach because I've been following it religiously (does that mean I converted? LOL). Since I've been on it, I lost bodyfat, and my joints that used to ache have stopped aching.

http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Weight-Healthy-Designed/dp/0471267554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264126430&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Weight-Healthy-Designed/dp/0471267554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264126430&sr=8-1)

http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/ (http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/)

Humans in the modern industrialized world eat a lot of food that the human body is not designed to deal with. Some of these foods include, milk, starch (eg rice, bread, beans), fatty/salty meats, sugar; all no-no's. These are the foods that cause a load of the diseases people are plagued with.

Here's what you should eat. LEAN meat, fish, poultry, Vegetables, Fruit. And that's it, if it's not Lean meat, a vegetable or a fruit don't eat it. This is what to eat if you want to be healthy, but I bet you already intuitively KNEW THAT ALREADY.

Yes but every time I have meat or chicken I get gas or diarrhea....so I want to see how my body responds without that stuff.

That doesn't make sense! Meat or chicken shouldn't have that effect. I bet you it's what you're eating with the meat, nobody just has meat, there's usually a side dish, I betchya it is the side dish that's killing you.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on January 21, 2010, 09:14:16 PM: Rabbinate General Shlomo Goren was a vegetarian [he is also the reason IDF has all Kosher meals; as opposed to the all pork diet pushed by Ben-Guirion, j/k]. Lots of Orthodox are. It's a far easier life than Kosher. The Adamite diet.

I eat whatever I feel like, as long as it is Kosher, but I have cut red meat down a lot, and eat chicken less than I eat fish. If I do not eat at least one salad on top of my normal food intake I feel like I am letting myself down. Many Israelis eat 3 salads every day.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 21, 2010, 09:34:46 PM: Quote from: New Yorker on January 21, 2010, 08:49:44 PM
Quote from: Mo2388 on January 21, 2010, 08:27:18 PM
Quote from: New Yorker on January 21, 2010, 07:50:29 PM
DON'T CONVERT!!! To vegetarianism!!! Seriously,

Meat and poultry isn't hurting you, meat and poultry is very benign, it's gotta be something else. Don't go vegetarian, go Paleo! By that I mean the Paleo Diet, it is the diet of the hunter/gatherer, it is very healthy. I highly recommend it, and I practice what I preach because I've been following it religiously (does that mean I converted? LOL). Since I've been on it, I lost bodyfat, and my joints that used to ache have stopped aching.

http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Weight-Healthy-Designed/dp/0471267554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264126430&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Weight-Healthy-Designed/dp/0471267554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264126430&sr=8-1)

http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/ (http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/)

Humans in the modern industrialized world eat a lot of food that the human body is not designed to deal with. Some of these foods include, milk, starch (eg rice, bread, beans), fatty/salty meats, sugar; all no-no's. These are the foods that cause a load of the diseases people are plagued with.

Here's what you should eat. LEAN meat, fish, poultry, Vegetables, Fruit. And that's it, if it's not Lean meat, a vegetable or a fruit don't eat it. This is what to eat if you want to be healthy, but I bet you already intuitively KNEW THAT ALREADY.

Yes but every time I have meat or chicken I get gas or diarrhea....so I want to see how my body responds without that stuff.

That doesn't make sense! Meat or chicken shouldn't have that effect. I bet you it's what you're eating with the meat, nobody just has meat, there's usually a side dish, I betchya it is the side dish that's killing you.
No it's not a side dish. I don't often have side dishes. And even when I do, they are always different. The common thing is the meat and chicken. Every time - - - upset stomach. ::) ::) :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :( :(
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Boyana on January 21, 2010, 09:44:23 PM: I 've been vegetarian all my life.I eat cheese so I am not vegan.

Twenty-One Reasons to Eat Like a Vegetarian
Nikki & David Goldbeck
co-authors, American Wholefoods Cuisine
Not so long ago, the word vegetarian was sure to elicit laughter on late night talk shows. But not anymore. Many people now recognize that vegetarian meals are not only familiar--think peanut butter sandwiches and bean burritos--but that these meat-free meals have a lot going for them. Even if you do not want to become a vegetarian, you may wish to consider adding more meat-free days to your week.

People often say to us, “I could be a vegetarian. I love vegetables.” Loving vegetables is a very good thing, since collectively they are probably the most health-protective of all foods. However, they are certainly not just for vegetarians, and despite the name, vegetarianism is not about eating vegetables.

The vegetarian diet is defined by its protein source. Meat eaters get their protein from animal flesh. The typical vegetarian obtains protein from beans, nuts, seeds, eggs, yogurt, cheese, and milk. Another group of vegetarians known as vegans refines this to exclude any food of animal origin, including dairy products, eggs, and even honey.

While at one time people were concerned about the adequacy of vegetarian diets, today even the American Dietetic Association confirms that they are healthy. Here are our twenty-one reasons to go meatless:

1. Less fat and calories. One noteworthy feature of a vegetarian diet is the potential for less artery-clogging saturated fat. For example, beans, which are a focal point of healthy vegetarian meals, contain very little fat. Soybeans and products made with them are somewhat higher in fat than other beans, but the fat they contain does not promote heart disease. In fact, the protein in soy is believed to have just the opposite effect by reducing cholesterol levels.

Nuts and seeds are indeed high in fat, but again, not the kind that is bad for your heart. In small quantities, these foods help satisfy your appetite and can thereby actually curtail overeating.

Low-fat and nonfat dairy products are another example of protein in a lean package. As you will soon see, in Enemy of the Steak, we sometimes make use of a little-known food called yogurt cheese, which is easily made from yogurt. We also use eggs in moderation because, contrary to what many people now believe, eggs are low in fat and calories relative to their nutritional return.

Finally, because many vegetarian staples are high in fiber, and because the vegetarian meals we promote emphasize more vegetables and whole grains than meat-based meals, a sound vegetarian menu is likely to fill you up with fewer calories.

2. Better nutrition. It’s often easier to get adequate amounts of most vitamins and minerals from a vegetarian diet than it is from a meat-based diet. By its very nature, vegetarian eating includes abundant amounts of vegetables on a daily basis. While there is no reason meat eaters can’t eat similar amounts of vegetables, in general, they give these foods a lower priority. The same is true of whole grains. Due to these choices, as well as the fact that beans and nuts are high in fiber while animal foods contain little, vegetarians also get far more health-promoting fiber in their diets.

This is not to say that all vegetarians enjoy better nutrition. Poorly chosen diets are unhealthy irrespective of the diet’s protein source. And vegans do need to put more effort into getting adequate calcium. Moreover, it is possible to become deficient in vitamin B12 after years of vegan eating, which is why nutritionists recommend a B12 supplement for vegans.

3. Mad cow disease. Concerns about animal husbandry have motivated vegetarians for years. Practices such as the overuse of antibiotics, hormones, and pesticides in animal feed were what prompted our own turn to a meat-free diet in the 1970s. Now there is another compelling reason for people to consider vegetarian eating--the disturbing news about the health of cows, and the possibility that the meat they yield may be deadly. Mad cow disease was first seen in British cattle. Initially, most scientists insisted that it could not be transmitted to people. It seems they were wrong. Suspected cases have been traced to Canada, and several deaths have occurred in the United States.

4. Mad Dow. The fact that meat-free meals are generally less expensive than their meat-based counterparts is another selling point for most people.

5. Easy, interesting, and convenient dishes. One of the best reasons to try meatless dining is that with the increased selection of inviting ingredients and appealing recipes, vegetarian dining is easier and more exciting than ever. And despite rumors to the contrary, preparing meals without meat is no more difficult or time-consuming than preparing food in general.

6. Concern for animals. Practically all animals destined for the table are raised in inhumane conditions. They are crowded together in unclean quarters, with some rarely breathing fresh air or seeing the light of day. Lack of exercise makes their lives miserable, but it is also what makes their meat tender and juicy.

7. Concern for people. The feeding of plant protein to animals has been called a “food factory in reverse,” in that it takes almost six pounds of plant protein--soy, grain, and forage--to produce just one pound of animal protein. While not all of this plant material is suitable for people, the growing of feedstuffs has reduced the amount of land devoted to edible food production, and is a contributing factor to world hunger.

8. Concern for the environment. One of the most alarming consequences of commercial meat production is the resulting air and water pollution. In areas surrounding large-scale feedlots and factory-like poultry facilities, the stench of urine and feces is far more noxious and pervasive than the odors found on a small-scale farm. Moreover, the methane gas emitted by livestock adds to the buildup of greenhouse gasses associated with global warming, while the massive accumulation of manure in feedlots leaches toxins into the ground and, ultimately, the waterways.

On the waterfront, the fishing industry is heading toward self-destruction by compromising the ocean’s ecosystems. The demand for reef-fish has contributed to the loss of coral reefs, some said to be over a million years old. Fish farming is no less damaging, since shoreline aquaculture has led to the decimation of mangroves--the trees and shrubs that protect the landmass. In fact, mangroves are considered natural shields against tsunami waves.

9. Concern for the future. According to United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization estimates, 70 percent of the world’s commercial fish stocks are in danger due to unsound fishing practices and overfishing. Industrial-scale commercial fishing has been blamed for the severe depletion of many fish species over the past fifty years. In addition, the escape of farmed fish can spread disease and threaten the genetic purity and survival of wild species. On land, the loss of arable soil to animal raising and animal feed production threatens the future of farming.

10. Concern for your health. Numerous studies point to the connection between meat eating and many types of cancer and heart disease. Every leading health agency, from the American Cancer Society to the American Heart Association, promotes a diet emphasizing vegetables, fruit, grains, and legumes (beans).

11. Resistant bacteria. Antibiotics are routinely administered to animals for enhanced growth as well as disease prevention--a constant threat due to overcrowded, unsanitary living conditions. This practice has led to a surge of antibiotic-resistant bacteria, and is adding to the increasing world crisis of drug-resistant diseases.

12. Food-borne pathogens. While meat is not the only source of food-borne disease, the majority of deadly E. coli cases have been traced to meat products. Moreover, factory-raised poultry is notorious for the presence of Salmonella and Campylobacter. While these bacteria are not likely to kill you if you are in good health, they can make you mighty sick. Moreover, for the young, the elderly, and anyone with a compromised immune system, the outcome can be much worse.

13. Kitchen contamination. Poor food-handling practices in home kitchens are far more serious when meat, poultry, and fish are on the menu. Failure to properly sanitize cutting boards, knives, utensils, and other items that come in contact with food can result in the spread of harmful bacteria to the rest of the meal.

14. Persistent pesticides. Pesticides, heavy metals, and other environmental toxins that are found in all industrial societies accumulate in the fat tissues of both animal and human. When people consume fat-containing meat, poultry, and fish, they simultaneously take in these accumulated chemicals. These concerns are so serious that the US government advises pregnant woman and young children to avoid eating certain fish altogether, and suggests limits on the consumption of others.

15. Protein loading. Even if no other protein-providing foods were eaten in the course of a day, it would take only about 6 ounces of meat to satisfy the 45-gram protein needs of the average woman, and just 3 ounces more to take care of a man’s 65-gram protein need. For people with higher protein needs, including athletes, heavy laborers, and pregnant women, only 100 grams (what you would find in about 14 ounces of meat) are required. Consuming protein above these levels serves no useful purpose. Furthermore, animal-focused high-protein diets like those touted by some weight-loss programs can disturb liver and kidney function, as well as increase the loss of bone calcium. While these are long-term consequences, more immediate effects such as dizziness, nausea, and bad breath can reduce the general quality of daily life.

16. Feisty phytochemicals. A newly identified class of food components called phytochemicals is believed to be among the most health-protective elements in food. Some phytochemicals are potent antioxidants. Others can alter human enzyme production in order to subdue inflammatory ailments. Some regulate hormones in a manner that may enhance bone strength. Phytochemicals have been shown to help cells resist cancer-causing agents and fight retroviral infections, including AIDS. In addition, they have been credited with having a positive effect on circulation, vision, blood clotting, cholesterol production, and more, thereby preventing or curbing a wide range of ailments. As their name suggests, phytochemicals exist only in plants.

17. Fortifying fiber. Only plant-based foods contain the fiber that aids digestion, contributes to satiety and thereby curbs overeating, slows down the release of carbohydrates into the blood stream to help maintain proper blood sugar levels, and reduces the body’s production of artery-damaging cholesterol. Most meat-centered diets are deficient in fiber.

18. Happy hearts The fat in animal foods is mainly saturated fat, which is the only kind of fat that has been directly implicated in heart disease. Conversely, the predominant fats in most plant foods, which are limited largely to nuts and seeds, are believed to raise levels of the so-called “good” HDL-cholesterol, which appears to reduce heart disease.

19. Living longer. Longevity studies from around the world--including studies of Seventh-day Adventists in North America, wartime Europeans, and populations in China and Okinawa--indicate that the healthiest and longest-living people eat relatively few foods of animal origin. While genetics may play a part, peers and progeny who eat a more meat-centered westernized diet do not enjoy similar longevity.

20. Weight control. British researchers studying the eating habits of 22,000 people over five years, including meat eaters and vegetarians, found that while all put on a few kilos, meat eaters who changed to a vegetarian or vegan diet gained the least.

21. Adventures in eating. Because vegetarian meals are not routinely available everywhere, vegetarians become more resourceful and adventurous away from home. They seek out different international cuisines, venture off the beaten path, and look beyond the meat entrées on the menu. As a result, they are apt to engage in more conversation when they travel, be open to trying new places, and be on the lookout for options that others might never notice.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Boyana on January 21, 2010, 09:50:40 PM: Mo,maybe you have a celiac disease.

http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/related-conditions/celiac-disease/
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Rubystars on January 21, 2010, 10:25:49 PM: Quote from: Mo2388 on January 21, 2010, 07:19:08 PM
I don't WANT to do it....but meat and chicken had been giving me gas and diarrhea for a while now. I'm going to see m Dr. soon, and I'm going to finish the rest of the basar in my house first (I don't want to waste it), but as soon as the basar is finished, I will not eat it. And I'm not going to eat JUST veggies. I will eat cheese, fish, starch, and fruit, too.

Don't try to go vegan without the help of a doctor. It's complicated and most people don't thrive on a vegan diet. Technically, it can be done in such a way as to meet your nutritional needs, but it involves eating strange things like yeast and other fungi. Mushrooms are healthy in moderation but do have a chemical called hydrazine which can be harmful in large doses.

Being a lacto-ovo vegetarian is a much easier option than being a vegan. You might still want to ask a doctor how to replace the nutrients you would otherwise be getting in meat, and you might get some recommendations to eat some foods you might otherwise not, like seaweed or tofu. Our Hindu members could probably help you because there are a lot of vegetarians in India.

I think it's good that you're also eating fish but be careful not to eat too much mercury in one week.

I still think you should go to a doctor though to find out why beef and chicken are causing the problem if possible, to rule out anything serious and get advice on starting your new eating plan.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: jdamn on January 21, 2010, 11:03:16 PM: Try it for 3 weeks and you'll never go back. You'll completely stop thinking of dead, cut-up animals as food. It's easier than you think.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: New Yorker on January 21, 2010, 11:44:50 PM: Quote from: jdamn on January 21, 2010, 11:03:16 PM
Try it for 3 weeks and you'll never go back. You'll completely stop thinking of dead, cut-up animals as food. It's easier than you think.

I think of live animals walking around as food, I see a bull or deer walk by, and I think, "mmmmm... steak!" ;D

Anyway...

Basics: Describing The Paleo Diet

Describe how The Paleo Diet works.

With readily available modern foods, The Paleo Diet mimics the types of foods every single person on the planet ate prior to the Agricultural Revolution (a mere 500 generations ago). These foods (fresh fruits, vegetables, lean meats, and seafood) are high in the beneficial nutrients (soluble fiber, antioxidant vitamins, phytochemicals, omega-3 and monounsaturated fats, and low-glycemic carbohydrates) that promote good health and are low in the foods and nutrients (refined sugars and grains, saturated and trans fats, salt, high-glycemic carbohydrates, and processed foods) that frequently may cause weight gain, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and numerous other health problems. The Paleo Diet encourages dieters to replace dairy and grain products with fresh fruits and vegetables -- foods that are more nutritious than whole grains or dairy products.

How does The Paleo Diet differ from the glut of diet books constantly bombarding the public?

The Paleo Diet is the unique diet to which our species is genetically adapted. This program of eating was not designed by diet doctors, faddists, or nutritionists, but rather by Mother Nature's wisdom acting through evolution and natural selection. The Paleo Diet is based upon extensive scientific research examining the types and quantities of foods our hunter-gatherer ancestors ate. This nutritional plan is totally unlike those irresponsible, low-carbohydrate, high-fat, fad diets that allow unlimited consumption of artery-clogging cheeses, bacon, butter, and fatty meats. Rather, the foundation of The Paleo Diet is lean meat, seafood, and unlimited consumption of fresh fruits and veggies.

Read up! http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/#Basics (http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/#Basics) 8)
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: muman613 on January 22, 2010, 12:21:48 AM: (http://www.hardrock.com.hk/images/NewYorkStripSteak.jpg)
Mmmmmmmmm, Goooood!

PS: Please consult doctor before consuming this meal....
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Rubystars on January 22, 2010, 12:33:55 AM: Quote from: jdamn on January 21, 2010, 11:03:16 PM
Try it for 3 weeks and you'll never go back. You'll completely stop thinking of dead, cut-up animals as food. It's easier than you think.

I tried being vegetarian for months at a time, twice. It was easy to go without eating meat, until it wasn't. I didn't crave meat but after a few months it just wasn't working for me anymore as far as the energy levels, etc. When I ate meat again I felt much better.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 22, 2010, 01:11:32 AM: See I'm just worried about shabbos and Yom Tov, lol.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: syyuge on January 22, 2010, 02:19:51 AM: I am a vegetarian but eat meat once a week. All the benefits of vegetarianism can be achieved simply by eating the balanced and healthy amounts of qualitative salad. However there should be a time gap between eating salad and meat.

For such stomach problems you can add a little of dates, figs and prunes to your diet routine after the meals. However sometimes initially they seem to be increasing the gas expulsions as a part of their cleaning program but later they can improve your stomach. It is healthy and harmless as well in balanced quantities.

Wish you all the best....
;D
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 22, 2010, 02:55:35 AM: Thanks folks. I'll speak my doc and I'll keep ya'll posted. In the meantime, my mom is making an AWESOME chicken soup for shabbos - - - :dance: :dance: :dance: 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on January 22, 2010, 02:58:35 AM: בס"ד

Are you sure you can pronounce "La Ila Ela Allah Wa'Muhammad Rassul Allah"?
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Aces High on January 22, 2010, 03:04:53 AM: Make sure to drink non fat lactose free milk. That will save you from many indigestion problems. Many people are lactose intolerant!
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 22, 2010, 03:07:45 AM: Quote from: Aces High on January 22, 2010, 03:04:53 AM
Make sure to drink non fat lactose free milk. That will save you from many indigestion problems. Many people are lactose intolerant!
Yes, I've been drinking lacteeze for years. Although, I don't drink much milk, but on the occasion I eat cereal, I use lacteeze. Milk and the like, has, in the past, caused me to explode quite violently :nuke: :nuke: Although, I think I might have outgrown the intolerance....
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on January 22, 2010, 03:20:46 AM: Moshe, i would say that.. eat what suits you.

i'm a flexitarian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexitarianism
And i think syyuge is too.

Some westerners have a notion that all Hindus are supposed to be vegetarian. Believe me, if that were really the case, most of the PETA members would have been Hindus. Although in Hinduism there are some guidelines (not commands) on what to eat. Religious Hindus or Preists follow Sattvic diet(Hindu kosher). Acccording to this philosophy a person should not eat food which would alter his/her bodily function or mind(thinking).
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 22, 2010, 03:44:51 AM: Quote from: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on January 22, 2010, 03:20:46 AM
Moshe, i would say that.. eat what suits you.

i'm a flexitarian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexitarianism
And i think syyuge is too.

Some westerners have a notion that all Hindus are supposed to be vegetarian. Believe me, if that were really the case, most of the PETA members would have been Hindus. Although in Hinduism there are some guidelines (not commands) on what to eat. Religious Hindus or Preists follow Sattvic diet(Hindu kosher). Acccording to this philosophy a person should not eat food which would alter his/her bodily function or mind(thinking).

Well....Apu from the Simpsons is vegan, so I thought all Indians who were religious were like him. But then again, Indian cuisine is full of meat, right?
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 22, 2010, 05:32:06 AM: See a dr. You might have an allergy to meat
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 22, 2010, 11:33:35 AM: Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 22, 2010, 05:32:06 AM
See a dr. You might have an allergy to meat

YOU'RE a doc, no?
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Irish Zionist on January 22, 2010, 11:40:39 AM: I heard on Ask JTF he is a dentist. A very good one at that. ;D
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Masha on January 22, 2010, 12:10:13 PM: I heard that one is supposed to eat meat on Shabbat if one is Orthodox.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Rubystars on January 22, 2010, 12:30:37 PM: Quote from: Ron Of Zion on January 22, 2010, 02:58:35 AM
בס"ד

Are you sure you can pronounce "La Ila Ela Allah Wa'Muhammad Rassul Allah"?

You shouldn't even be putting that filthy Shahadah crap on the forum. You wouldn't want someone to read it out loud and purposely convert themselves with help from your post.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 22, 2010, 12:31:59 PM: Quote from: Masha on January 22, 2010, 12:10:13 PM
I heard that one is supposed to eat meat on Shabbat if one is Orthodox.

It's a widely accepted custom to eat meat on Shabbos.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: syyuge on January 22, 2010, 01:08:08 PM: Quote from: Rubystars on January 22, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: Ron Of Zion on January 22, 2010, 02:58:35 AM
בס"ד

Are you sure you can pronounce "La Ila Ela Allah Wa'Muhammad Rassul Allah"?

You shouldn't even be putting that filthy Shahadah crap on the forum. You wouldn't want someone to read it out loud and purposely convert themselves with help from your post.

To stop getting converted one has to immediately in the same breath read out loudly the following:

Is calme mein bhala kaun wah Elaallah aata hai,
Fata chaddilah pahne jiske gun Fazalullah gata hai.
;D
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on January 22, 2010, 02:03:03 PM: Quote from: syyuge on January 22, 2010, 01:08:08 PM
Quote from: Rubystars on January 22, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: Ron Of Zion on January 22, 2010, 02:58:35 AM
בס"ד

Are you sure you can pronounce "La Ila Ela Allah Wa'Muhammad Rassul Allah"?

You shouldn't even be putting that filthy Shahadah crap on the forum. You wouldn't want someone to read it out loud and purposely convert themselves with help from your post.

To stop getting converted one has to immediately in the same breath read out loudly the following:

Is calme mein bhala kaun wah Elaallah aata hai,
Fata chaddilah pahne jiske gun Fazalullah gata hai.
;D
:::D
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on January 23, 2010, 06:26:08 PM: Mo,

Meat and chicken are very rich in amino acids which have nitrogen as their building blocks, which can lead to excess gas production. My suggestion would be to make sure the food is well cooked, limit your intake and chew slowly. Try not drinking too much when you eat as this dilutes your stomach acid, placing the burden of digestion in your gut, which will also lead to more gas. Hope that helps
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Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on January 23, 2010, 06:27:16 PM: בס"ד

Quote from: Rubystars on January 22, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: Ron Of Zion on January 22, 2010, 02:58:35 AM
בס"ד

Are you sure you can pronounce "La Ila Ela Allah Wa'Muhammad Rassul Allah"?

You shouldn't even be putting that filthy Shahadah crap on the forum. You wouldn't want someone to read it out loud and purposely convert themselves with help from your post.

the thing is the meaning if you don't mean that then it's no conversion
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Post by: serbian army on January 23, 2010, 07:46:37 PM: Do not eat meat too late. Don't buy meat in Walmart :o Do not put meat on some electric grill. Find the woman who is a good cook. I think you will be fine if you do/don't do this things. ;D
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Post by: ~Hanna~ on January 23, 2010, 09:28:46 PM: what is going on here?

what does your signature say?

Quote from: Ron Of Zion on January 22, 2010, 02:58:35 AM
בס"ד

Are you sure you can pronounce "La Ila Ela Allah Wa'Muhammad Rassul Allah"?
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on January 24, 2010, 06:51:07 AM: בס"ד

Quote from: ~Kramer~ on January 23, 2010, 09:28:46 PM
what is going on here?

what does your signature say?

Quote from: Ron Of Zion on January 22, 2010, 02:58:35 AM
בס"ד

Are you sure you can pronounce "La Ila Ela Allah Wa'Muhammad Rassul Allah"?

Hakadosh Baruch Hu hu Akbar (הקב"ה-הוא אכבר)
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 24, 2010, 07:00:31 AM: Quote from: Ron Of Zion on January 23, 2010, 06:27:16 PM
בס"ד

Quote from: Rubystars on January 22, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: Ron Of Zion on January 22, 2010, 02:58:35 AM
בס"ד

Are you sure you can pronounce "La Ila etc"?

You shouldn't even be putting that filthy Shahadah crap on the forum. You wouldn't want someone to read it out loud and purposely convert themselves with help from your post.

the thing is the meaning if you don't mean that then it's no conversion

such an evil statement still has no place on this forum.... If someone was distressed and faced with a beheading by a muzzie and said that under duress, you're right he is not actually converted because he doesn't believe it, but what is the excuse to write such a garbage statement that one would only say if he had no defense and his life was in danger? Let's keep it out of sight.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on January 24, 2010, 07:02:40 AM: בס"ד

Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 24, 2010, 07:00:31 AM
Quote from: Ron Of Zion on January 23, 2010, 06:27:16 PM
בס"ד

Quote from: Rubystars on January 22, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: Ron Of Zion on January 22, 2010, 02:58:35 AM
בס"ד

Are you sure you can pronounce "La Ila Ela Allah Wa'Muhammad Rassul Allah"?

You shouldn't even be putting that filthy Shahadah crap on the forum. You wouldn't want someone to read it out loud and purposely convert themselves with help from your post.

the thing is the meaning if you don't mean that then it's no conversion

such an evil statement still has no place on this forum.... If someone was distressed and faced with a beheading by a muzzie and said that under duress, you're right he is not actually converted because he doesn't believe it, but what is the excuse to write such a garbage statement that one would only say if he had no defense and his life was in danger? Let's keep it out of sight.

Well ok then
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Post by: GoIsraelGo! on January 24, 2010, 10:26:08 AM: Mo, I have a veggie recipe for you......

1 tomato
1 zuchinni
1 onion
1/2 teaspoon of salt
1/4 teaspoon of pepper
1/4 teaspoon of curry powder
2 tablespoons of olive oil

Sautee all of the above on medium heat until veggies are tender.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 24, 2010, 12:01:17 PM: Quote from: Republicandox on January 24, 2010, 10:26:08 AM
Mo, I have a veggie recipe for you......

1 tomato
1 zuchinni
1 onion
1/2 teaspoon of salt
1/4 teaspoon of pepper
1/4 teaspoon of curry powder
2 tablespoons of olive oil

Sautee all of the above on medium heat until veggies are tender.

Thanks, Dox, I'll relay it to my mom.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on January 24, 2010, 12:02:00 PM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda

Indians eat with Ayurveda in mind. It is usually vegetarian. However, Tandori style, meat cooking is an Indian treat.

If you wish your insides worked as well as in your youth, I recommend Ayurveda routines within the Kosher diet.

There are 3 major different types of bodies; Kappa, vata, and pitta; one can be a a mixture of these three.

--------

I like to have hummus on the go, in a tupperwear container, w/ pita bread... dates, figs... juices... I am always ready to snack. Because I do not drive, my friends have often labeled me as, "an authentic wandering Israelite", because I am prepared for a feast of kosher on the go".
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Post by: muman613 on January 24, 2010, 12:04:59 PM: Quote from: Ariel Shayn on January 24, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda

Indians eat with Ayurveda in mind. It is usually vegetarian. However, Tandori style, meat cooking is an Indian treat.

If you wish your insides worked as well as in your youth, I recommend Ayurveda routines within the Kosher diet.

There are 3 major different types of bodies; Kappa, vata, and pitta; one can be a a mixture of these three.

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I like to have hummus on the go, in a tupperwear container, w/ pita bread... dates, figs... juices... I am always ready to snack. Because I do not drive, my friends have often labeled me as, "an authentic wandering Israelite", because I am prepared for a feast of kosher on the go".

Ummm.... Ariel... I dont think that web link is Kosher...

And I don't know about Ayurveda either... I just clicked that link and it showed a picture of the 'god of Ayurveda' which would be considered Avodah Zarah to a Jew...

Maybe you are not aware of this fact... We do not believe in any other god that the One True G-d of Israel...

Thank you...
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: GoIsraelGo! on January 24, 2010, 12:34:56 PM: Quote from: Mo2388 on January 24, 2010, 12:01:17 PM
Quote from: Republicandox on January 24, 2010, 10:26:08 AM
Mo, I have a veggie recipe for you......

1 tomato
1 zuchinni
1 onion
1/2 teaspoon of salt
1/4 teaspoon of pepper
1/4 teaspoon of curry powder
2 tablespoons of olive oil

Sautee all of the above on medium heat until veggies are tender.

Thanks, Dox, I'll relay it to my mom.

Mo, give your Mom a break....you need cooking lessons so that when you are on your own, you will know how to cook for yourself.

Shalom - Dox
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on January 24, 2010, 12:44:53 PM: Quote from: muman613 on January 24, 2010, 12:04:59 PM
Quote from: Ariel Shayn on January 24, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda

Indians eat with Ayurveda in mind. It is usually vegetarian. However, Tandori style, meat cooking is an Indian treat.

If you wish your insides worked as well as in your youth, I recommend Ayurveda routines within the Kosher diet.

There are 3 major different types of bodies; Kappa, vata, and pitta; one can be a a mixture of these three.

--------

I like to have hummus on the go, in a tupperwear container, w/ pita bread... dates, figs... juices... I am always ready to snack. Because I do not drive, my friends have often labeled me as, "an authentic wandering Israelite", because I am prepared for a feast of kosher on the go".

Ummm.... Ariel... I dont think that web link is Kosher...

And I don't know about Ayurveda either... I just clicked that link and it showed a picture of the 'G-d of Ayurveda' which would be considered Avodah Zarah to a Jew...

Maybe you are not aware of this fact... We do not believe in any other G-d that the One True G-d of Israel...

Thank you...

Yikes! I guess I must have glossed past there being a god of Ayurveda... I just know about the "science" of Ayurveda.

Is it wrong of me to use food science like this? Just eating what digests well together? In any of the books I have read on Ayurveda there has been no mention of deities so far.

I think the idea of multiple gods to be fallacious, as there is only One G-d, and we worship Him.

Is it wrong to do yoga?

I do feng shui in my apartment, sans idols or anything like a buddha statue [I know he is not a god, but he looks like an idol], but the science of feng shui as as designing the layout of a room. - Would this be wrong as well?
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on January 24, 2010, 01:02:18 PM: Quote from: Ariel Shayn on January 24, 2010, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: muman613 on January 24, 2010, 12:04:59 PM
Quote from: Ariel Shayn on January 24, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda

Indians eat with Ayurveda in mind. It is usually vegetarian. However, Tandori style, meat cooking is an Indian treat.

If you wish your insides worked as well as in your youth, I recommend Ayurveda routines within the Kosher diet.

There are 3 major different types of bodies; Kappa, vata, and pitta; one can be a a mixture of these three.

--------

I like to have hummus on the go, in a tupperwear container, w/ pita bread... dates, figs... juices... I am always ready to snack. Because I do not drive, my friends have often labeled me as, "an authentic wandering Israelite", because I am prepared for a feast of kosher on the go".

Ummm.... Ariel... I dont think that web link is Kosher...

And I don't know about Ayurveda either... I just clicked that link and it showed a picture of the 'G-d of Ayurveda' which would be considered Avodah Zarah to a Jew...

Maybe you are not aware of this fact... We do not believe in any other G-d that the One True G-d of Israel...

Thank you...

Yikes! I guess I must have glossed past there being a G-d of Ayurveda... I just know about the "science" of Ayurveda.

Is it wrong of me to use food science like this? Just eating what digests well together? In any of the books I have read on Ayurveda there has been no mention of deities so far.

I think the idea of multiple gods to be fallacious, as there is only One G-d, and we worship Him.

Is it wrong to do yoga?

I do feng shui in my apartment, sans idols or anything like a buddha statue [I know he is not a G-d, but he looks like an idol], but the science of feng shui as as designing the layout of a room. - Would this be wrong as well?
you can make use of ayurveda without praying to that or any deity. In India there are religious non-idol worshipping monotheistic Sikhs who make use of ayurveda without praying to Hindu deities and without flouting their own religious norms, so guess you should be ok.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: muman613 on January 24, 2010, 01:14:57 PM: I have heard it is possible to do yoga without the mantras which invoke avodah zarah... But you should consult a Rabbi if you want to know what the halacha is...
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Post by: muman613 on January 24, 2010, 01:17:51 PM: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/496869/jewish/Is-Yoga-kosher.htm

Question:

Is yoga considered an idolatrous practice because it started out as a Hindu practice? What if one meditates on words of Torah or Psalms while practicing yoga?

Answer:

We've been getting this question quite a bit lately, most likely due to all the "Kosher Yoga" classes sprouting up.

The short answer is, no it is not prohibited. If it would be, the marathon, too, would be prohibited. So would wine and meat. In fact, so would any benefit from the sun, the moon, the ocean, the wind, fire and air, water and earth--all would have to be outlawed, since all of these have been either the object or device of pagan worship.

But they are all still kosher. Why? Because, as the Talmud rhetorically asks, "Because of fools, should we destroy G‑d's world?"

Meaning that G‑d put all these things here with a function and a purpose. Unlike the idols and temples erected by idolaters, they were here before Adam was created. It was the mistake of Adam's offspring to consider them autonomous beings—but that in no way changes the purpose for which G‑d made them.

The same with Yoga: When G‑d created the human being, He made innate to this creature's nature that he would be able to stretch and relax in ways that would provide him greater resilience and mastery over his own body. While the Hellenists were running marathons and the Chinese were developing martial arts, the people in India developed this art of Yoga--each people according to their particular climate and social structure. It was inevitable that each culture associated these discoveries to their beliefs--just as they had associated wine and feasting. But because of this, should we outlaw a benefit G‑d placed purposely in His world for us?

Solomon the Wise wrote, "He made everything fit for its time." Everything G‑d put in this world is necessary, nothing is extra. If the benefits of Yoga exist, it means that at some point in time people will need them—for good purposes, for the purposes for which we were created, to bring us and our world closer to our Creator and to an active connection with Him.

The same applies to those forms of meditation that can be useful in developing the mind and in relaxation. All of these must be used, stripped of their association with Hindu deities and the like, for the purpose for which they were originally placed in the world--to better serve its Creator and know Him in all our ways.

(It's worthwhile to note that the true Hindu masters recognized that there is truly only a single oneness behind all of reality. Their mistake was principally in their presentation to the common people, allowing them to be misled into worship of literally hundreds of deities. Maimonides discusses this at length in the first chapter of his Laws of Idolatry.)

In Yoga, there are a few postures and sequences that are difficult to strip of their Hindu context. I'm thinking in particular of a sequence called the "sun salute." None of these are indispensable.

In Transcendental Meditation, a commercialized hodge-podge of Hindu techniques and ideas, the initiated are assigned "secret" mantras. These are actually names of Hindu deities and are assigned according to age and gender. A Jew is prohibited from any mention of such names. But again, these can be replaced with kosher chants.

In general, any of these practices to the extreme will be detrimental. They have a place in healing, attuning and empowering the human being. But they must not be made an end in themselves. The Torah teaches us that a soul is sent into this world to act, to create change, to transform the physical reality--not to escape it. If any of these practices assists you to do so, good. But when they become a means of escape, disassociation or "transcendence" of this reality in which we have been placed, they become counter-productive--and often psychologically hazardous.

You suggested meditating on words of Torah while practicing Yoga. However, much of Yoga practice demands releasing the mind from attachment and focus, while at other times, the focus is directed toward the activity at hand. My suggestion is that you immerse your mind in Torah study before practicing Yoga, so that thoughts of Torah will be ringing around in your mind spontaneously as you practice. The Rebbe gave this advice to someone whose doctor advised him to exercise each day.

Since, as I wrote, many people are asking this question, I hope you don't mind if we post this answer for all to read. Undoubtedly, we'll get some more suggestions on kosherizing Yoga.

Rabbi Tzvi Freeman for Chabad.org
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Post by: syyuge on January 24, 2010, 02:04:17 PM: In the matters of positive aspects and benefits of Yoga and Ayurveda, one should not worry about their respective deities. Only the kosher parts of the same may be judiciously accepted and applied.

Otherwise there is no end to it as even the deities of all the machines, the cars, airplanes, money, property, economics and warfare are also available.
;D
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Post by: FreedomFighter08 on January 24, 2010, 03:07:02 PM: Buy some isolated Protein Powder if you're going vegetarian. You need protein for organs and muscle. Some people do get gas when taking it though.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on January 24, 2010, 03:47:20 PM: Chabad to the rescue! I had been thinking about this on my walk, I walked several miles today; I had been misinformed which days I work this week.

What I see as the value of the science of ayurveda is maintaining the proper "pH" of what you eat in groups of meals. Like, steak and potatoes are actually a bad combination [yet another reason to not eat (cheese)burgers and fries]. In the plants I work with, if they get fed nutrients at the wrong pH they cannot metabolize effectively, and will "lock out" in a state which blocks proper food from the roots.

Ayurveda also sizes up 3 main types of people bodies [perhaps Shem, Japheth, and Ham were the prototypes?], and I have been able to find enough likenesses to see a "pitta dosha" works for me. I owe all of my health and being to HaShem, but I was in really horrible shape [in stomach] before I started eating better like this [numerous trips to the ER for pain, and one hospitalization: doctors have no idea what bothered my stomach, I look in GREAT health to doctors, which was frustrating].

When I DO eat food, I think about Jewish history... 7 species of Israel are always on my list... and lots of sephardic food like hummus, baba ganoush, or plain old techina and pita.. dates, figs, pomegranate juice, grapes, pita [wheat, barley], olives and olive oil... these things make a Torah scholars stomach happy. Almonds too! Jordan almonds are hardly a Jordanian creation... Eretz Yisrael!
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 24, 2010, 06:39:19 PM: Quote from: FreedomFighter08 on January 24, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
Buy some isolated Protein Powder if you're going vegetarian. You need protein for organs and muscle. Some people do get gas when taking it though.

The essential amino acids are contained in vegetables. A combination of a few vegetables (as little as 2, with the right ones, namely corn and string beans) covers all the essential amino acids that cannot be made by the body. Eaten in enough quantity and with some dairy sources of protein in the diet, there is no need for protein powder if one refrains from eating meat.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: The One and Only Mo on January 24, 2010, 08:30:17 PM: Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 24, 2010, 06:39:19 PM
Quote from: FreedomFighter08 on January 24, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
Buy some isolated Protein Powder if you're going vegetarian. You need protein for organs and muscle. Some people do get gas when taking it though.

The essential amino acids are contained in vegetables. A combination of a few vegetables (as little as 2, with the right ones, namely corn and string beans) covers all the essential amino acids that cannot be made by the body. Eaten in enough quantity and with some dairy sources of protein in the diet, there is no need for protein powder if one refrains from eating meat.

Gas is a part of the problem though.
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Cato on January 25, 2010, 02:42:36 AM: Cato the Elder, On Agriculture (c. 170 BC)

It is the cabbage which surpasses all other vegetables for medical value. It may be eaten either cooked or raw; if you eat it raw, dip it into vinegar. It promotes digestion and is an excellent laxative. If you wish to drink a lot at a banquet and enjoy your dinner, eat as much raw cabbage as you wish before dinner... Cabbage can be used as a poultice on all kinds of wounds and swellings; it will cleanse all sores and heal without pain; it will soften and open boils... Headache and eye ache it heals alike... Also if you feel sick, if the spleen is swollen, if the heart is painful, or the liver - in a word, it will cure all internal organs... And still further, if you save the urine of a person who eats a lot of cabbage, heat it, and bathe the patient in it... Also, if babies are bathed in this urine they will never be weakly
Title: Re: I'm seriously thinking of converting....
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 25, 2010, 07:09:23 AM: Quote from: Mo2388 on January 24, 2010, 08:30:17 PM
Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 24, 2010, 06:39:19 PM
Quote from: FreedomFighter08 on January 24, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
Buy some isolated Protein Powder if you're going vegetarian. You need protein for organs and muscle. Some people do get gas when taking it though.

The essential amino acids are contained in vegetables. A combination of a few vegetables (as little as 2, with the right ones, namely corn and string beans) covers all the essential amino acids that cannot be made by the body. Eaten in enough quantity and with some dairy sources of protein in the diet, there is no need for protein powder if one refrains from eating meat.

Gas is a part of the problem though.

Oh. part of which problem? I wasn't paying attention...