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Title: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Masha on February 02, 2010, 08:25:23 AM
I am getting really fed up with all the Italian jokes. The more hysterical our politically correct society becomes, the more it is OK to scapegoat certain "allowed" groups. Somebody just sent me links to this very popular comedian Russel Peters, and he was doing a "make fun of Italians" routine, portraying them as uncouth thugs - the ususal stuff, you know. Nobody in the audience left. I am sure there are a lot of Italian-Americans there. This stuff should stop being acceptable. We should start saying "No" to these jokes. If I were in the audience, I would have walked out. He was also making a lot of jokes about how racist white people are. He even said that only whites can be racist. Disgusting.

One thing I started doing is telling people off when they make a "stupid blond" comment. I tell them that this is a racist comment and my opinion of them has just sunk very low. You should see some amazed looks. So far, no confrontations. I invite everyone on this board to start doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 02, 2010, 09:10:14 AM
Good points.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: patches on February 02, 2010, 09:33:31 AM
Did you watch that video Hanna put up of the Italian mother cursing and flipping out? It's pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: voo-yo on February 02, 2010, 09:34:56 AM
Forgedaboudit
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on February 02, 2010, 10:03:59 AM
The best friend I ever had in the entire world was Italian..she was like a sister to me, I guess I have some Italian running through my blood now, too. I said they could delete it if they wanted. I get to hear blonde jokes my entire life now...(I'm a blonde) also Irish, German, Native American, they all have jokes too.

I apologize, I have Italian friends, I was picking on some of them. Maybe they all hate me now, I dunno. I hope not.  :'(
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on February 02, 2010, 10:05:16 AM
yeah, it would have been funny if the mother was a BLONDE, or IRISH, or Jewish, it doesn't matter, it was funny...I dunno...
Did you watch that video Hanna put up of the Italian mother cursing and flipping out? It's pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on February 02, 2010, 10:06:14 AM
Wait, since I am blonde can't I tell blonde jokes? Ive heard them for over half a century now.

 :(

I have to laugh, even at stupid stuff, I was raised on the 3 stooges, Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and costello, Martin and Lewis, Gracie and what's his name...

You get the point.

Lucy and Ricky.

Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Daniele.from.Italy on February 02, 2010, 10:11:54 AM
I think I saw the video you're refferring to, Masha.
Is this one isn't it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83KEvIURe9M

I don't know, it's true he's making fun of the "italian stereotype", but to be honest I don't find it so offensive. I mean I've seen worst in Hollywood movies and other US Tv shows.
Anyway you have good points, you can make fun of every white (and asian also) ethnic group by emphasizing their stereotypes, while you can't make fun of certain other groups or even just tell the truth about them like the "mmh-hmm" people (unless you are one of them).
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Masha on February 02, 2010, 10:14:43 AM
Wait, since I am blonde can't I tell blonde jokes? Ive heard them for over half a century now.

 :(

No, please don't tell Blonde jokes. Blond people are not stupid. They have some of the highest IQs in the world. "Blond jokes" is a strategy by anti-white racists to destroy the people of European extraction. You have to break their spirit first - you do it with denigrating jokes. Let's not perpetuate these racist stereotype of mean thugs Italians and stupid blonds. Enough.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on February 02, 2010, 10:22:05 AM
ok, so what do I do then, Ive had to hear them for many years.....it is part of our society, ive never heard of anyone protesting blonde jokes.

Wait, since I am blonde can't I tell blonde jokes? Ive heard them for over half a century now.

 :(

No, please don't tell Blonde jokes. Blond people are not stupid. They have some of the highest IQs in the world. "Blond jokes" is a strategy by anti-white racists to destroy the people of European extraction. You have to break their spirit first - you do it with denigrating jokes. Let's not perpetuate these racist stereotype of mean thugs Italians and stupid blonds. Enough.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on February 02, 2010, 10:25:39 AM

It's simple, Italians stallions are just better than they are. Smarter, better, superior.


Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: patches on February 02, 2010, 11:48:32 AM
Did anybody ever see this video by Richard Pryor, when he talks about the Italian mafia? It's hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnNT9fsuFEQ
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: rhayat1 on February 02, 2010, 11:53:05 AM
I'm conflicted on this issue.  On the one hand I agree with you that it is not alright to belittle European heritage and that whites  (whether blond or Italian or whatever) need to start fighting back.  On the other hand I think ethnic jokes, of any kind, are funny.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: arksis on February 02, 2010, 12:32:29 PM
I think people NEED to lighten up a bit! I'm a blonde, heard them all my life, and Polish, so you can IMAGINE the jokes I've heard..........and being my name is Dawn, have also heard THOSE jokes! I just smile and roll my eyes, because I've heard them ALL. Most people are not being mean or nasty, just having some fun. And then there are those people that think they are hilarious, and are NOT!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: New Yorker on February 02, 2010, 01:08:10 PM

Right now it is okay to denigrate Italians, Catholics, and White Heterosexual Men in movies, tv, etc. I've noticed that too.

In the movies, the Italians are mobsters, Guidos, etc. and white Heterosexual Men are either very evil men in suits (agent Smith from the Matrix types), or buffoons, and there's open hostitlity to the Catholics, every kind of attack on the Catholic Church is open season, like the movies the Davinci Code, and lately 2012 (where the Vatican gets demolished along with everyone praying in the packed square, note that Mecca was safe in that film). 

Notice that in reality, these groups that are being attacked represent men with very traditional role models, Italian/white men, masculine men, not a metro sexual or emasculated liberal type in the bunch. I think that is what the liberals in Hollywood consider one of their enemies, traditional masculine men, they've taken on the femanazi cause of the "feminist" (Bull Dyke) movement.

Also notice the behavior Hollywood puts out as a model for the women to follow, lately in films, the women are always hawk faced and scowling sarcastic nasty creatures, they'll never utter a line of dialogue without sarcasm and a scowl even when talking to a man that they supposedly like. Watch, now that I have pointed it out you will notice it.

The film and tv industry has been taken over by very evil people.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: christians4jews on February 02, 2010, 01:19:14 PM
Did anybody ever see this video by Richard Pryor, when he talks about the Italian mafia? It's hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnNT9fsuFEQ

you find that coon funny, are you nuts...hes about as funny as 9/11
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Spectator on February 02, 2010, 01:36:40 PM
I think people NEED to lighten up a bit! I'm a blonde, heard them all my life, and Polish, so you can IMAGINE the jokes I've heard..........and being my name is Dawn, have also heard THOSE jokes! I just smile and roll my eyes, because I've heard them ALL. Most people are not being mean or nasty, just having some fun. And then there are those people that think they are hilarious, and are NOT!  :laugh:

This means that you have strong personality and good sense of humor. But there are also people who are hurt by such jokes.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Rubystars on February 02, 2010, 02:26:13 PM
Heaven in Europe is a place where the British are the policemen, the French are the cooks, the Germans are the engineers, the Italians are the lovers and the Swiss run the place.

And hell is where the British are the cooks, the French are the engineers, the Germans are the policemen, the Swiss are the lovers and the Italians run the place.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: muman613 on February 02, 2010, 02:34:58 PM
Today is Spaghetti day in the lunch room!

 8)
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: patches on February 02, 2010, 03:17:12 PM
Did anybody ever see this video by Richard Pryor, when he talks about the Italian mafia? It's hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnNT9fsuFEQ

you find that coon funny, are you nuts...hes about as funny as 9/11

I found that clip pretty darn funny.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: cjd on February 02, 2010, 03:42:13 PM
Pryor was very funny back in the 70's when humor like that was the trend... He had some very funny stuff back then. Today it's still slightly funny but not like it was  then... I guess the world has moved on....The thing about Pryor is some of his funniest stuff was when he did skits about black folks.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Boyana on February 02, 2010, 03:56:39 PM
 French men are flirtatious, but Italian men leave them in the dust. They just flirt so unashamedly.

An Italian man flirts like other men breathe regulary and naturally! :fireworks: :guitar:
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on February 02, 2010, 04:17:14 PM
Italian people tend to be very patriotic and embracing of other people
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: cjd on February 02, 2010, 05:16:02 PM

Right now it is okay to denigrate Italians, Catholics, and White Heterosexual Men in movies, tv, etc. I've noticed that too.

In the movies, the Italians are mobsters, Guidos, etc. and white Heterosexual Men are either very evil men in suits (agent Smith from the Matrix types), or buffoons, and there's open hostitlity to the Catholics, every kind of attack on the Catholic Church is open season, like the movies the Davinci Code, and lately 2012 (where the Vatican gets demolished along with everyone praying in the packed square, note that Mecca was safe in that film). 

Notice that in reality, these groups that are being attacked represent men with very traditional role models, Italian/white men, masculine men, not a metro sexual or emasculated liberal type in the bunch. I think that is what the liberals in Hollywood consider one of their enemies, traditional masculine men, they've taken on the femanazi cause of the "feminist" (Bull Dyke) movement.

Also notice the behavior Hollywood puts out as a model for the women to follow, lately in films, the women are always hawk faced and scowling sarcastic nasty creatures, they'll never utter a line of dialogue without sarcasm and a scowl even when talking to a man that they supposedly like. Watch, now that I have pointed it out you will notice it.

The film and tv industry has been taken over by very evil people.
Interesting post and most likely the case!! The film industry is indeed populated by evil people. It is all part of the picture to destroy anything good about the American way of life. Young people today are very influenced by the media. People watch what comes out of Hollywood today and thing its all a historically correct documentary.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: TruthSpreader on February 02, 2010, 07:46:49 PM
You can say negative things about Italians, Irish and other white ethnic groups and still get away with it but say the same thing about blacks and they'll call you a racist. It's what we call a double standard.

Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Rubystars on February 03, 2010, 02:53:27 AM
I do get really irritated when I see "black" sitcom shows or similar things that have all the white characters as complete dumb donkeys.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on February 03, 2010, 03:47:33 AM
I really Hate stand up comedians. They are pathetic, absolutely nót funny and are only aimed at making people more stupid than they already are.
It also has become a hype. All of a sudden everybody tries to be a comedian and be funny.
It is just the cheapest crap you could ever see.
It should be forbidden.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: TruthSpreader on February 03, 2010, 05:56:24 AM
I do get really irritated when I see "black" sitcom shows or similar things that have all the white characters as complete dumb donkeys.

I really hate those shows because they always dumb down white people and the black people look like Einstein.

Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on February 03, 2010, 08:15:31 AM
So why is it that you can't say a damn thing about jiggers or muslims?
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: pennyjangle on February 03, 2010, 09:32:22 AM
French men are flirtatious, but Italian men leave them in the dust. They just flirt so unashamedly.

An Italian man flirts like other men breathe regulary and naturally! :fireworks: :guitar:


Italian men have a good heart but a hot temper!

Masha,
I'm half Italian. Most of my dad's Irish dutch German side wouldn't accept us, to them we were n*gg*rs turned inside out. Yes I had to hear that growing up! That is why I take people's words "with a grain of salt" otherwise everyone will offend you!
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Masha on February 03, 2010, 09:49:36 AM

Notice that in reality, these groups that are being attacked represent men with very traditional role models, Italian/white men, masculine men, not a metro sexual or emasculated liberal type in the bunch. I think that is what the liberals in Hollywood consider one of their enemies, traditional masculine men, they've taken on the femanazi cause of the "feminist" (Bull Dyke) movement.


I think you are on to something here.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Rubystars on February 03, 2010, 09:53:01 AM
I'm half Italian. Most of my dad's Irish dutch German side wouldn't accept us, to them we were n*gg*rs turned inside out. Yes I had to hear that growing up! That is why I take people's words "with a grain of salt" otherwise everyone will offend you!

All of those four blood lines are very good ones you should be proud of all of them. I have English, Irish, Scottish and German.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Masha on February 03, 2010, 09:53:11 AM
I'm half Italian. Most of my dad's Irish dutch German side wouldn't accept us, to them we were n*gg*rs turned inside out.

Italians descend from ancient Romans. That's a very noble heritage.

Every time I visit Italy, I am struck by the sense of how Italians appear to "know how to live." They've got the art of living down. This is very ancient knowledge that bespeaks an old culture.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Edward on February 03, 2010, 10:05:59 AM
If someone said somethin' against negro people he'd be damned by the media...
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: muman613 on February 03, 2010, 10:31:02 AM
I'm half Italian. Most of my dad's Irish dutch German side wouldn't accept us, to them we were n*gg*rs turned inside out.

Italians descend from ancient Romans. That's a very noble heritage.

Every time I visit Italy, I am struck by the sense of how Italians appear to "know how to live." They've got the art of living down. This is very ancient knowledge that bespeaks an old culture.

You do know the Jewish feeling towards Ancient Romans, don't you? We don't particularly hold them up as examples of righteous individuals.... I curse the Ancient Romans every day...

EDOM/ESSAU HATES YAAKOV!
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Spectator on February 03, 2010, 10:37:48 AM
Ancient Romans are ancient Nazis. But present-day Italians are much different from them in many aspects, including the genetics.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: HiWarp on February 03, 2010, 11:08:53 AM
I really Hate stand up comedians. They are pathetic, absolutely nót funny and are only aimed at making people more stupid than they already are.
It also has become a hype. All of a sudden everybody tries to be a comedian and be funny.
It is just the cheapest crap you could ever see.
It should be forbidden.

And some of us are just naturally funny and don't need to try at all.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: muman613 on February 03, 2010, 11:32:33 AM
I really Hate stand up comedians. They are pathetic, absolutely nót funny and are only aimed at making people more stupid than they already are.
It also has become a hype. All of a sudden everybody tries to be a comedian and be funny.
It is just the cheapest crap you could ever see.
It should be forbidden.

And some of us are just naturally funny and don't need to try at all.

(http://www.funny-potato.com/images/babies/desert-for-baby.jpg)
Some babies are just plain funny...
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Rubystars on February 03, 2010, 12:35:14 PM
Roman civilization was evil in many ways.

I would like to remind you Muman that it's not just Jews that have a problem with the behavior of ancient Romans, it's Christians too who were persecuted.

Romans did produce some VERY sophisticated concepts and inventions as well. I think that someone with heritage from them should be proud of those good things even if other things aren't so good.

Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Cato on February 03, 2010, 12:50:56 PM
I'm half Italian. Most of my dad's Irish dutch German side wouldn't accept us, to them we were n*gg*rs turned inside out.

Italians descend from ancient Romans. That's a very noble heritage.

Every time I visit Italy, I am struck by the sense of how Italians appear to "know how to live." They've got the art of living down. This is very ancient knowledge that bespeaks an old culture.

You do know the Jewish feeling towards Ancient Romans, don't you? We don't particularly hold them up as examples of righteous individuals.... I curse the Ancient Romans every day...

EDOM/ESSAU HATES YAAKOV!

I appreciate your feelings, it's just that this is difficult to understand for most non-Jewish people, who think more of their positive contributions, eg. 1:00 on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSELOCMmw4A
Certainly we can all agree that the Ancient Romans were not a righteous people. Their place in history is guaranteed by their effectiveness, not their morality.


Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: muman613 on February 03, 2010, 03:24:08 PM
Roman civilization was evil in many ways.

I would like to remind you Muman that it's not just Jews that have a problem with the behavior of ancient Romans, it's Christians too who were persecuted.

Romans did produce some VERY sophisticated concepts and inventions as well. I think that someone with heritage from them should be proud of those good things even if other things aren't so good.



And you do know that Rome became the Roman church and continued its barbarous practices of killing Jews.

http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48942411.html
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48943941.html
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48944036.html
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48949046.html
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48949371.html

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ROMAN ATTRACTION TO JUDAISM

We had previously talked about the tension in the Greco-Roman world that pitted Hellenism against Judaism. But we neglected to mention that there were Romans who were very much attracted to Judaism.

This was especially true in the 1st century CE when, under Nero, the decay of Rome began and thoughtful, intelligent people saw the empire turning into a cesspool of decadence, violence, and overall immorality. Such people were looking for stability, for a universal moral view of the world, and they were casting their eye on some more exotic forms of worship than the official state religion.

Their search brought to Rome many alien religious cults -- in particular the worship of Mithra, the Persian god of light and wisdom, who became identified with Helios, the Greek sun god, as well as Sol, the Roman sun god. This cult came to be so popular that the Romans named a day of the week - "Sunday" - in honor of Mithra, and celebrated the sun god's birthday in late December in conjunction with the Winter Solstice.

Loyalty to the state gods was further weakened by the Roman policy of stealing the gods of conquered peoples. The "captured gods" were then "owned" by Rome and incorporated into the official pantheon. As the empire grew, the number of gods multiplied wildly. According to the Roman writer Varro, at one point, Rome had in excess of 30,000 gods and 157 holidays a year(2) . Who could keep them straight, or, for that matter, take them seriously?
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Rubystars on February 03, 2010, 03:42:40 PM
I know what happened with the so-called Church and it killed a lot of Christians too over the centuries, not to mention supressing the growth of science. I won't get into it too much because I don't want to offend our Catholic members, but I don't have a lot of love for the RCC.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Aces High on February 03, 2010, 03:57:50 PM
The same reason it's ok to denigrate the Jewish people.  We're fair game for society.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: NRAJ on February 03, 2010, 10:06:01 PM
My mother is Italian and my father is Jewish,I have been hearing jokes all my life.A lot of the jokes are the same just with Jewish/Italian switched.They don't bug me one bit.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on February 03, 2010, 11:34:59 PM
Many Christians were killed too...

They were fed to the lions...

They were used for torches as the games.....


etc.

Roman civilization was evil in many ways.

I would like to remind you Muman that it's not just Jews that have a problem with the behavior of ancient Romans, it's Christians too who were persecuted.

Romans did produce some VERY sophisticated concepts and inventions as well. I think that someone with heritage from them should be proud of those good things even if other things aren't so good.



And you do know that Rome became the Roman church and continued its barbarous practices of killing Jews.

http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48942411.html
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48943941.html
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48944036.html
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48949046.html
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/48949371.html

Quote
ROMAN ATTRACTION TO JUDAISM

We had previously talked about the tension in the Greco-Roman world that pitted Hellenism against Judaism. But we neglected to mention that there were Romans who were very much attracted to Judaism.

This was especially true in the 1st century C.E. when, under Nero, the decay of Rome began and thoughtful, intelligent people saw the empire turning into a cesspool of decadence, violence, and overall immorality. Such people were looking for stability, for a universal moral view of the world, and they were casting their eye on some more exotic forms of worship than the official state religion.

Their search brought to Rome many alien religious cults -- in particular the worship of Mithra, the Persian G-d of light and wisdom, who became identified with Helios, the Greek sun G-d, as well as Sol, the Roman sun G-d. This cult came to be so popular that the Romans named a day of the week - "Sunday" - in honor of Mithra, and celebrated the sun G-d's birthday in late December in conjunction with the Winter Solstice.

Loyalty to the state gods was further weakened by the Roman policy of stealing the gods of conquered peoples. The "captured gods" were then "owned" by Rome and incorporated into the official pantheon. As the empire grew, the number of gods multiplied wildly. According to the Roman writer Varro, at one point, Rome had in excess of 30,000 gods and 157 holidays a year(2) . Who could keep them straight, or, for that matter, take them seriously?

Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Edward on February 04, 2010, 12:09:59 AM
You know it's funny that the Holywood industry usualy presents the blacks as the smartest, the most intelligent, talanted and heroic... while in reality.. well, I guess you know(http://)
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Cato on February 04, 2010, 03:10:34 AM
Like Britain some 1500 years later, Ancient Rome was eventually swamped with all sorts of foreigners, and some say specifically that the eventual dominance of Germans in the Roman Army was the final blow to the Roman Empire. Rather like how two wars with the Germans was the final blow to the British Empire. However, when I see Italians I see a love of life, culture and technology which was very much a feature of Roman life. Italians have every right to be proud of their inheritance, and personally I respect and admire them for it.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 08, 2010, 06:54:18 AM
Like all things, there were good and bad aspects to the Ancient romans.   Chazal give them credit as great architects, builders of roads, etc.   (Mentioned in Talmud).   They certainly revolutionized technologies and culture.   On the other hand, the simple fact is they hated Jews, the ancient romans were imperialists of the highest order, and in their greedy and arrogant colonialism, they tried to subjugate the Jewish nation and wipe them out.   So there were good and bad aspects to the ancient Romans.   Some classic writings and philosophy texts are of value as well, even if mostly borrowed from the Greeks before them.   

I don't see modern day "Italians" as being a continuation of ancient Rome, except for minor cultural aspects.  But in that case they are a continuation of the good things, not the bad things.  I don't think Italians today are imperialists that want to destroy Israel or Jews.   In fact, Berlusconi is probably the most pro-Jewish prime minister in the entire EU.

In short, it's not ok to denigrate Italians, but liberals would rather denigrate good people than the bad people or present day Islamic nazis.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: ~Hanna~ on February 08, 2010, 05:21:25 PM
I love Lambrusco wine, from Italy.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: New Yorker on February 08, 2010, 05:50:01 PM
You know it's funny that the Holywood industry usualy presents the blacks as the smartest, the most intelligent, talanted and heroic... while in reality.. well, I guess you know(http://)

Hollywood's deranged perception of reality. (coincidentally matches the left wing deranged perception of reality point for point. Gee what are the odds!?)
Watch for it on tv shows and movies, if you haven't noticed these points, you will now.

In Film:

White Men are evil, or at best buffoons.
Women are all scowling as* kicking martial arts masters that are tough as nails, and even a 4'11" waif can take out the biggest guy with one punch, and all men are only to be talked to with a snarl and a tone of contempt, (remember if white men aren't evil, they're buffoons), watch, you'll even see girlfriend & wife characters, talking to their boyfriends & husbands with tones of contempt. It is amazing to watch, try renting a movie with a lot of male/female interaction from the 1980's and a recent film, watch the scenes back and forth and compare, you won't believe how sweet and feminine the women in the 1980's movie are compared to the snarling hawk faced creatures in the 2000's film.
All black people are brilliant, either doctors, scientists, or enlightened genius politicians.
Businesses are always evil, business owners are evil.
Primitive natives are always enlightened, and western civilization is always corrupt and evil.
Lately, in sci-fi films, the ALIENS are THE GOOD GUYS!?? And humanity is evil!!! (eg, Avatar, District 9)
Bad guys are always eastern European white men, but NEVER arabs or muslims.

For Hollywood, it is open season on Christians and traditional family life. You can denigrate Christians and Christianity any way, with no limits. In film there are no traditional families, if it appears to be a traditional family, there's always some horrible secret depravity and the family is a bunch of hypocrites and evil.



People, nothing goes into a film by accident, all of this is INTENTIONAL, pains are taken to write and direct this stuff. This is social engineering propaganda. Pushing the leftist agenda.
Hollywood is a disgusting pit of evil right now.



Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: rhayat1 on February 08, 2010, 05:54:55 PM
You know it's funny that the Holywood industry usualy presents the blacks as the smartest, the most intelligent, talanted and heroic... while in reality.. well, I guess you know(http://)

Hollywood's deranged perception of reality. (coincidentally matches the left wing deranged perception of reality point for point. Gee what are the odds!?)
Watch for it on tv shows and movies, if you haven't noticed these points, you will now.

In Film:

White Men are evil, or at best buffoons.
Women are scowling donkey kicking martial arts masters that are tough as nails, and even a 4'11" waif can take out the biggest guy with one punch. And all men are only to be talked to with a snarl and a tone of contempt, (remember if white men aren't evil, they're buffoons), watch, you'll even see girlfriend & wife characters, talking to their boyfriends & husbands with tones of contempt. It is amazing to watch, try renting a movie with a lot of male/female interaction from the 1980's and a recent film, watch the scenes back and forth and compare, you won't believe how sweet and feminine the women in the 1980's movie are compared to the snarling hawk faced creatures in the 2000's film.
All black people are brilliant, either doctors, scientists, or enlightened genius politicians.
Businesses are always evil, business owners are evil.
Primitive natives are always enlightened, and western civilization is always corrupt and evil.
Lately, in sci-fi films, the ALIENS are THE GOOD GUYS!?? And humanity is evil!!! (eg, Avatar, District 9)
Bad guys are always eastern European white men, but NEVER arabs or muslims.

For Hollywood, it is open season on Christians and traditional family life. You can denigrate Christians and Christianity any way, with no limits. In film there are no traditional families, if it appears to be a traditional family, there's always some horrible secret depravity and the family is a bunch of hypocrites and evil.



People, nothing goes into a film by accident, all of this is INTENTIONAL, pains are taken to write and direct this stuff. This is social engineering propaganda. Pushing the leftist agenda.
Hollywood is a disgusting pit of evil right now.





Well said Edward and New Yorker!
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Aces High on February 08, 2010, 06:03:58 PM
Well, how do you think the Jews feel.  The Whole World denigrates us.  Even after all we've done for the world!
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Edward on February 08, 2010, 07:58:25 PM
You're all right guys...
And about Avatar, I think it has a hidden message in it (some leftwing message)
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: christians4jews on February 08, 2010, 08:13:27 PM
italalinas and jews are very sucessful attractive people, blacks are hideous to look at and hideous to hear speak...because of that the self hatibg media feel guilty for the blacks failings and elevate them...
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: david1967 on February 08, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
The MTV show "Jersey Shore" made young Italian-Americans look very shallow.  The guys are portrayed as dumb muscleheads and the girls are portrayed as big-haired sluts.  Both are also obsessed with their hair and appearance.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: New Yorker on February 08, 2010, 09:15:34 PM
You're all right guys...
And about Avatar, I think it has a hidden message in it (some leftwing message)


"Hidden" message!!!!? HIDDEN!!!? :laugh: OBVIOUS left wing message!!!

AVATAR is the manifested view of every self loathing leftist. Leftists HATE themselves (must be from all the guilt they feel from the unrepentant depraved lives they live) they then project that self hatred onto humanity, leftists HATE humanity. That's why in Avatar, the humans are villains and the aliens are the noble heroes. That hatred for humanity came out in that script.

Leftists are dangerous and evil. They will undermine civilization, aid our enemies, cost people their lives, and  do it without a second thought or bit of remorse. There's a name for this kind of behavior, it's called being a sociopath.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: HiWarp on February 09, 2010, 06:51:20 AM
You're all right guys...
And about Avatar, I think it has a hidden message in it (some leftwing message)


"Hidden" message!!!!? HIDDEN!!!? :laugh: OBVIOUS left wing message!!!

AVATAR is the manifested view of every self loathing leftist. Leftists HATE themselves (must be from all the guilt they feel from the unrepentant depraved lives they live) they then project that self hatred onto humanity, leftists HATE humanity. That's why in Avatar, the humans are villains and the aliens are the noble heroes. That hatred for humanity came out in that script.

Leftists are dangerous and evil. They will undermine civilization, aid our enemies, cost people their lives, and  do it without a second thought or bit of remorse. There's a name for this kind of behavior, it's called being a sociopath.

Remorse? Not only do they have no remorse for what they do, they actually believe that what they are doing is the right thing.

Having said that, here I go, once again, blaming not the people who do this but instead the people who make it possible for them to do it. If the majority of people looked at the crap that Hollywood releases and said "this is pure garbage and we are not going to pay to see it", where would Hollywood be? They would have the choice of either providing people with decent entertainment or going broke. You have to ask yourself, though, since the movie industry doesn't seem to be in dire straits financially maybe the crap they pump out is what people want to see.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: arksis on February 09, 2010, 08:14:56 AM
I agree HiWarp! I can't tell you the last time I saw a movie or even rented one. We refuse to see or watch any movie with liberal movie stars in them.  >:(
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: MasterWolf1 on February 09, 2010, 08:35:15 AM
It is very hypocritical. Give you an example.. Remember about a few years the guy that was on Seinfeld? He said Ni&&&r and my God as if all hell broke lose and day in and out we hear this one thing and basically trashed his "image" for saying.  Look, I was born in the United States, my family came from a beautiful country called Italy. I can say this.. The pride I have running in my veins from coming from such an amazing background will never be washed from anyone or anything.  My people who came from the other ends of the Atlantic to the United States the amount of contributions for the better of the United States is beyond amazing.  I want to see a comedian get up on stage and call some Muz a sand monkey camel riding low IQ mongoloid. Let's see how far that goes?
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Edward on February 09, 2010, 09:32:35 AM
I'm sick and tired of this disgusting double-standart
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: MasterWolf1 on February 10, 2010, 07:13:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX_X5GorOag&feature=related

Here is the example of the city that 1/3rd of my family came from, Torino, Italy, it is in the north. I would love to see a city like this be compared to some hell hole in a place like Kenya.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: mord on February 10, 2010, 07:22:51 AM
It is very hypocritical. Give you an example.. Remember about a few years the guy that was on Seinfeld? He said Ni&&&r and my G-d as if all hell broke lose and day in and out we hear this one thing and basically trashed his "image" for saying.  Look, I was born in the United States, my family came from a beautiful country called Italy. I can say this.. The pride I have running in my veins from coming from such an amazing background will never be washed from anyone or anything.  My people who came from the other ends of the Atlantic to the United States the amount of contributions for the better of the United States is beyond amazing.  I want to see a comedian get up on stage and call some Muz a sand monkey camel riding low IQ mongoloid. Let's see how far that goes?
You mean Michael Richards the other  day i saw him on a new show ;D
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: TruthSpreader on February 10, 2010, 02:46:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX_X5GorOag&feature=related

Here is the example of the city that 1/3rd of my family came from, Torino, Italy, it is in the north. I would love to see a city like this be compared to some hell hole in a place like Kenya.

I agree. Any place in Africa is hell including South Africa which was once the only First World country on that god-forsaken Continent.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: catholicforisrael on February 12, 2010, 07:24:57 AM
I'm Italian.  Big Time.  Parents were write off the boat.  You know, the 2 or 3 hour meals, all the widows in black, praying with one hand, giving the Mallochio with the other.   The "discussions" that outsiders think are violent arguements.......the great food, the great love of IMMEDIATE family, the fantastic history in all phases of civilizations..................and the mob.  All this and everyone associates the Sopranos with us.....along with the food.

But, me personally, and ALL REAL ITALIANS that I know (off the boat or first generation) don't mind the jokes, the mob movies, etc.  Why?  Because we KNOW who we are.  We KNOW that along with all the great accomplishments and fantastic sensual creations, we, as every nationality have common dark corners in who we are as a people.  "We are angels only in heaven" is one of my nonna's old sayings.  It seems to me that all the picketing and complaining about the "stereotypical" depictions of Italians are done by "Italians" in name only, two or three generations past.   The can't stand the fact that Carlo Gambino is as much a representative of the Italian people as Rossini.  Good and Bad......its what TRULY represents a people.

BUt, I gotta say, when people make fun of Italians, I don't think that there is anywhere NEAR the malice in their words as their are when they make fun of Jews.  I think  that people who aren't Italian make fun of us WITHOUT thinking  how we are running their lives, influencing their exsistance on this planet, but when they make fun of Jews, there seems to be an ANGER.....pissed off that somehow, in their mind, Jews run every aspect of their lives...and they are resentful about it.  So, in my mind, Italian jokes and Jew jokes are worlds apart.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Masha on February 15, 2010, 08:01:52 AM
But, me personally, and ALL REAL ITALIANS that I know (off the boat or first generation) don't mind the jokes, the mob movies, etc.  Why?  Because we KNOW who we are.

Well, I understand where you are coming from, and it's a good thing that many Italians have a healthy self-image that is not damaged by anti-Italian jokes. If these were the 70ies or the 80ies, I would say: good for you! But the times have changed. Imagine 2 children. One is generous, another is greedy. The generous child says to the greedy child, "I don't mind that you take my candy. You are welcome to it." If no adult is there to constrain the greedy child, pretty soon, he will take not only all of the generous child's candies but his food, as well. In a similar fashion, Italians have been saying: "Hey, we don't mind if you make us the butt of your jokes. We are above making this a grievance issue." This high-minded attitude only works with similar people. What has happened now is that it is no longer possible to make fun of the minorities. And so all the pent-up hostility is barraged on top of "allowed" nationalities. It is sickening to watch.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: cjd on February 15, 2010, 08:10:36 AM
But, me personally, and ALL REAL ITALIANS that I know (off the boat or first generation) don't mind the jokes, the mob movies, etc.  Why?  Because we KNOW who we are.

Well, I understand where you are coming from, and it's a good thing that many Italians have a healthy self-image that is not damaged by anti-Italian jokes. If these were the 70ies or the 80ies, I would say: good for you! But the times have changed. Imagine 2 children. One is generous, another is greedy. The generous child says to the greedy child, "I don't mind that you take my candy. You are welcome to it." If no adult is there to constrain the greedy child, pretty soon, he will take not only all of the generous child's candies but his food, as well. In a similar fashion, Italians have been saying: "Hey, we don't mind if you make us the butt of your jokes. We are above making this a grievance issue." This high-minded attitude only works with similar people. What has happened now is that it is no longer possible to make fun of the minorities. And so all the pent-up hostility is barraged on top of "allowed" nationalities. It is sickening to watch.
Great post!! Making fun of the "allowed nationalities" is just another way to bring everyone down into the basement.
Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Aces High on February 15, 2010, 08:50:47 AM
I'm Italian.  Big Time.  Parents were write off the boat.  You know, the 2 or 3 hour meals, all the widows in black, praying with one hand, giving the Mallochio with the other.   The "discussions" that outsiders think are violent arguements.......the great food, the great love of IMMEDIATE family, the fantastic history in all phases of civilizations..................and the mob.  All this and everyone associates the Sopranos with us.....along with the food.

But, me personally, and ALL REAL ITALIANS that I know (off the boat or first generation) don't mind the jokes, the mob movies, etc.  Why?  Because we KNOW who we are.  We KNOW that along with all the great accomplishments and fantastic sensual creations, we, as every nationality have common dark corners in who we are as a people.  "We are angels only in heaven" is one of my nonna's old sayings.  It seems to me that all the picketing and complaining about the "stereotypical" depictions of Italians are done by "Italians" in name only, two or three generations past.   The can't stand the fact that Carlo Gambino is as much a representative of the Italian people as Rossini.  Good and Bad......its what TRULY represents a people.

BUt, I gotta say, when people make fun of Italians, I don't think that there is anywhere NEAR the malice in their words as their are when they make fun of Jews.  I think  that people who aren't Italian make fun of us WITHOUT thinking  how we are running their lives, influencing their exsistance on this planet, but when they make fun of Jews, there seems to be an ANGER.....pissed off that somehow, in their mind, Jews run every aspect of their lives...and they are resentful about it.  So, in my mind, Italian jokes and Jew jokes are worlds apart.

You are extremely intuitive!  Italian jokes and Jew Jokes are worlds apart.  The Jew jokes have a bad intent in them.   The jokes of today were the slanderous lies used against Jews for thousands of years, which always lead to murder of the Jews by the thousands, and eventually 6 million.  That's the other reason, Jews need an Arab free Israel.    When the world turns against us, as they always do, we need a place with our own army and police where we can defend ourselves, and teach the animals a lesson, who harm us.

Title: Re: Why is it OK to denigrate Italians?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on February 15, 2010, 09:02:45 AM
I am Italian. I have never heard a joke about Italians here in Argentina. Jokes are not always offensive. There are Jews who tell Jewish jokes about themselves. But if someone denigrates Italians he must suffer the same penalty as any other who denigrates other groups. Society is generally biassed and considers that offending minorities is worse, but an offense is an offense.