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Title: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 24, 2010, 07:06:06 PM
He shakes the schvartza's hand then wipes his greasy hand on Bill. lol  :::D :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DtwkTS9mq8&feature=player_embedded#
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: cjd on March 24, 2010, 07:16:09 PM
He shakes the schvartza's hand then wipes his greasy hand on Bill. lol  :::D :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DtwkTS9mq8&feature=player_embedded#
Well since Clinton was known as and accepted the title of being the first black president he shouldn't mind.  :::D
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on March 24, 2010, 08:11:41 PM
Re:  "...He shakes the schvartza's hand then wipes his greasy hand on Bill. lol."

This video had its original audio track removed by "an unnamed governmental intelligence agency", which then had a new audio voice track recorded in a secret clandestine sound studio and dubbed into the film.

In the original version, Bush, after touching the schwartze, wipes his hand all over Clinton's shirt and is heard saying "Have some slime, SLIMEBALL!" ...  to which Clinton responds, "Why!"..."You no good...*@&*"..."Now I've got AIDS BUGS all over me!"...

   :::D   :P
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: cjd on March 24, 2010, 08:21:35 PM
Re:  "...He shakes the schvartza's hand then wipes his greasy hand on Bill. lol."

This video had its original audio track removed by "an unnamed governmental intelligence agency", which then had a new audio voice track recorded in a secret clandestine sound studio and dubbed into the film.

In the original version, Bush, after touching the schwartze, wipes his hand all over Clinton's shirt and is heard saying "Have some slime, SLIMEBALL!" ...  to which Clinton responds, "Why!"..."You no good...*@&*"..."Now I've got AIDS BUGS all over me!"...

   :::D   :P
Well if there was ever a place to catch a sure fire dose of Aids Haiti would be high on the list.  :o
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: New Yorker on March 24, 2010, 08:24:19 PM
 :::D

Obama makes me really miss Bush.  :'(
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: cjd on March 24, 2010, 08:26:38 PM
:::D

Obama makes me really miss Bush.  :'(
Cheer up its only the shvartza Presidents first year in office  :::D
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on March 25, 2010, 10:28:05 AM

I saw that!!
[censored] grease yuckkk!!
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Secularbeliever on March 25, 2010, 02:58:52 PM
LOL.  Maybe he figures that Clinton has touched every dirty thing out there already and there are no new diseases to which he can be exposed.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: muman613 on March 25, 2010, 03:23:48 PM
(http://www.wmt.wellington.net.nz/images/Grease%20is%20the%20Word.jpg)
Grease is the Word, is the word, is the word...
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 25, 2010, 05:45:13 PM
Making fun of human beings is against Torah. Why hating, mocking and degrading Haitians for their skin colour, when H" would even accept any of them as an Israelite in case he wanted to convert and live by the Torah?
Now, regarding Bush, it perfectly ok to be afraid of diseases and dirt in a place where there is an increased risk of epidemics after the earthquake. He should have used an antiseptic or avoid touching anything. Wiping on a shirt would prevnt nothing. I don't consider it an offense at all.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 25, 2010, 06:23:47 PM
Making fun of human beings is against Torah. Why hating, mocking and degrading Haitians for their skin colour,

If the only thing different between the races was skin color, then it wouldn't be such a big deal. The truth is the differences go way, way beyond a mere difference in color.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 25, 2010, 06:35:27 PM
Rubystars, you are not even Jewish. Why do you use the Yiddish word for Black?
And you should better care about the fundamentalist Islamic threat. This kind of posts do nothing but giving a point to leftists and Muslims. If, chas veshalom, let's say in 10 years, we hear "peace talks" and concessions, not only about Eretz Israel, but also about Muslims claims that American women wear the Burqah, then don't blame only the weak Western Govts.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 25, 2010, 06:53:36 PM
Rubystars, you are not even Jewish. Why do you use the Yiddish word for Black?

I type another word and the filter changes it to [censored].

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And you should better care about the fundamentalist Islamic threat. This kind of posts do nothing but giving a point to leftists and Muslims. If, chas veshalom, let's say in 10 years, we hear "peace talks" and concessions, not only about Eretz Israel, but also about Muslims claims that American women wear the Burqah, then don't blame only the weak Western Govts.

I thought it was funny that as tolerant and anti-racist as Bush tried to seem, he shows that he's not so non-discriminatory after all.

I hate Muslims and wish it was legal to drive them all out of the country or worse.

However, Hatians are also the scum of the earth. If you love Hatians so much go to Haiti and walk through their neighborhoods with no protection and see how far you get.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: White Israelite on March 25, 2010, 07:11:52 PM
Rubystars, you are not even Jewish. Why do you use the Yiddish word for Black?
And you should better care about the fundamentalist Islamic threat. This kind of posts do nothing but giving a point to leftists and Muslims. If, chas veshalom, let's say in 10 years, we hear "peace talks" and concessions, not only about Eretz Israel, but also about Muslims claims that American women wear the Burqah, then don't blame only the weak Western Govts.

They need an option to write black in Ladino.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 25, 2010, 07:17:32 PM
There may be violence and insecurity in Haiti, but they are not a threat to us. On the other side I perfectly know that as much as 90% of Muslims would be willing to take over Europe, America and Israel. I have read many Islamic sites and even saw them in chat rooms, and most of them view Europe as a future Islamic state.
I used to be tolerant to individual Muslims in the past, I thought fundamentalism was only encouraged by political leaders for their own agenda... until I got a PC at home and I could monitor many chats and sites all the time (Instead of just an hour in a cyber cafe) and I found out that most of them, even if not interested in pilitics, wish to destroy European democracies and replace it with Sharia. Europe has undergone milenia of dark ages, Inquisition, witch hunt, progroms from inside, and now that we have made a relatively freer society, I certainly don't want foreign Muslims to throw all our efforts away.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 25, 2010, 10:12:47 PM
Hatians who are allowed to move into the US as refugees are a problem and will kill Ameicans both directly and through the diseases they carry and spread.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 26, 2010, 12:51:14 AM
Hatians who are allowed to move into the US as refugees are a problem and will kill Ameicans both directly and through the diseases they carry and spread.

So just because they may be infected with some diseases and the American Govt allows them as refugees, you feel you have the right to hate and mock them?So you think a sick contagious human being should not only be abandoned, but also mocked? Perhaps you think that some adult Haitians sought their diseases by not doing a good prevention, but what about the children?
Your thoughts are neither Christian nor Jewish or Noahide.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 26, 2010, 01:21:18 AM
Rubystars, you are not even Jewish. Why do you use the Yiddish word for Black?
And you should better care about the fundamentalist Islamic threat. This kind of posts do nothing but giving a point to leftists and Muslims. If, chas veshalom, let's say in 10 years, we hear "peace talks" and concessions, not only about Eretz Israel, but also about Muslims claims that American women wear the Burqah, then don't blame only the weak Western Govts.
Raul, I've been really nice to you for all the years you have been here but your posts are more often than not weird and divisive. I don't see any Jewish members here making the same kinds of posts that you do.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 26, 2010, 05:06:08 AM
Brennan, the use of Yidish to make controversial and even inhumane statements about topics unrelated to the Jewish People is a desecration of the memory of the martyrs of the Shoah. Even worse if it is done by someone who is not Jewish.
(in this case it was the filter that changed a word to Yiddish, I don't know why the admins have set the filter that way).
Real Yiddish speakers did not have problem with Blacks, but with nazis and Russian progroms. They were not confortably sitting at a PC, they were working hard to get a piece of white bread for Shabbat. Why would anyone use Yiddish words to express his/her own controversial thoughts as if speaking on behalf of Askenazi Jews of Europe? Any Black person who reads it might think Askenazim are anti-Black.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 26, 2010, 05:27:06 AM
Shwartza simply means "black". What's so controversial of that?

Secondly, while the yiddish of the shoah were worried about nazis and russians and getting bread, after the shoah if they moved to the US, they were worried about evil blacks in the 70's moving and destroying their neighborhoods. I hardly think for rubystars to use a harmless Yiddish term is harmless. Nor does she believe that all haitians are evil. Or even blacks. If anything she is one of the kindests souls on this forum. She has said nothing unchristian or unjewish or unnoahide.

Furthermore, the burden of proof of righteousness is on the haitians. The vast majority are evil. Not all of them, but the vast majority. It is up to a Hatian to proof himself righteous before we ought to give them the benefit of the doubt. The same goes with many blacks especially US blacks who 97 percent voted for obama who hates Israel and belonged to a so called church which hates whitey and Jews.

I hardly think this is a place for you to chastize any JTF member who uses the word shwartza on purpose or by accident. And I hardly think your political correctness is appropriate in this situation.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 26, 2010, 09:14:27 AM
Hatians who are allowed to move into the US as refugees are a problem and will kill Ameicans both directly and through the diseases they carry and spread.

So just because they may be infected with some diseases and the American Govt allows them as refugees, you feel you have the right to hate and mock them?So you think a sick contagious human being should not only be abandoned, but also mocked? Perhaps you think that some adult Haitians sought their diseases by not doing a good prevention, but what about the children?
Your thoughts are neither Christian nor Jewish or Noahide.


I don't have any desire to be Jewish or Noahide. I think if people want to help Hatians they should help them in Haiti, not by polluting the United States. With that said, helping blacks never seems to make any kind of permanent improvement in their condition.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 26, 2010, 09:16:53 AM
Brennan, the use of Yidish to make controversial and even inhumane statements about topics unrelated to the Jewish People is a desecration of the memory of the martyrs of the Shoah. Even worse if it is done by someone who is not Jewish.
(in this case it was the filter that changed a word to Yiddish, I don't know why the admins have set the filter that way).
Real Yiddish speakers did not have problem with Blacks, but with nazis and Russian progroms. They were not confortably sitting at a PC, they were working hard to get a piece of white bread for Shabbat. Why would anyone use Yiddish words to express his/her own controversial thoughts as if speaking on behalf of Askenazi Jews of Europe? Any Black person who reads it might think Askenazim are anti-Black.


Once again, I type another word and the filter sets it to [censored].

I'll give you a hint what I'm really typing. It begins with N, ends with R,  and has 6 letters.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 26, 2010, 10:01:36 AM
I hardly think for rubystars to use a harmless Yiddish term is harmless. Nor does she believe that all haitians are evil. Or even blacks. If anything she is one of the kindests souls on this forum. She has said nothing unchristian or unjewish or unnoahide.

Thanks Dr. Dan. You're right. Not all blacks are evil. Some are very good people and I would consider them the equal of any other good person morally. I admire Pastor Manning.

The same goes for some Hatians. There were two very righteous Hatian nurses who helped a little girl named Marley get treatment for a disease that was killing her. She had two specials on TLC and Discovery Health. These women looked beyond the disfigurement that it had caused, and rather than saying it was a curse, etc. like most Hatians did, they got her help. I thought that was a great story.
 
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Furthermore, the burden of proof of righteousness is on the haitians. The vast majority are evil. Not all of them, but the vast majority. It is up to a Hatian to proof himself righteous before we ought to give them the benefit of the doubt. The same goes with many blacks especially US blacks who 97 percent voted for obama who hates Israel and belonged to a so called church which hates whitey and Jews.

Right, most of them are not good people in any way. Child abuse, rape, murder, hard drug use, etc. are really out of control. Of course the relevant thing to this forum is that many, many blacks are anti-Semitic and pro-Islam.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: christians4jews on March 26, 2010, 10:44:33 AM
There may be violence and insecurity in Haiti, but they are not a threat to us. On the other side I perfectly know that as much as 90% of Muslims would be willing to take over Europe, America and Israel. I have read many Islamic sites and even saw them in chat rooms, and most of them view Europe as a future Islamic state.
I used to be tolerant to individual Muslims in the past, I thought fundamentalism was only encouraged by political leaders for their own agenda... until I got a PC at home and I could monitor many chats and sites all the time (Instead of just an hour in a cyber cafe) and I found out that most of them, even if not interested in pilitics, wish to destroy European democracies and replace it with Sharia. Europe has undergone milenia of dark ages, Inquisition, witch hunt, progroms from inside, and now that we have made a relatively freer society, I certainly don't want foreign Muslims to throw all our efforts away.

the reason they are not a threat is because they are so backward...not because they are decent people..

if african nations had a iq between them, trust me world war 3 would break loose.

Thankfully they never advance...
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: AsheDina on March 26, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
 :laugh: :::D
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 26, 2010, 03:27:15 PM
I just cannot understand why you forbid saying N*gger, which is an English word, when it's certain that Engalnd will never be associated with any ideology just by the use of her language (it's an international language), but don't care about the desecration of Yiddish and the memory of its speakers.
You say you don't hate all Blacks and that Schvartse is not a slur (in fact it's just a name of a colour in Yiddish), but you fail to realise that any Black person who reads it (even those Blacks whom you call righteous and claim not to hate) will understand it as an Yiddish insult, since they obvioulsy don't speak Yiddish and don't know the meaning. They only know that the word is used here to refer to them.
Rubystars, I had already mentioned that in your case it was the filter and not you who wrote that word.
Now, reagarding your faith, your thoughts about Haitian victims are not Christian either. According to Christianity, Haitians are your neighbours and you should keep the commamndment to love your neighbour as yourself. On the other side, the Noahide Laws do not speak of considering all humans as neighbours neither are Noahides commanded to keep the Ten Commandments. Noahidism only commands to keep Seven Laws, including not to murder or harm others physically or psychologically (from which we can understand that it's also wrong to entice others to hate people, mock them, dscouraging help in times of need and so on). While it is wrong for a Noahide to be insensitive not feeling pity about the misfortunes of others even in a distant place, it's not a sin (unless you are in that place, are the only one who can help and refuse to do so). According to Christianity it IS a sin.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 26, 2010, 03:56:49 PM
So according to your interpretation, Raulmarrio, a righteous person to you turns the other cheek?  I am having trouble understanding what your saying...what if you inadvertently help a criminal and he comes from a society that is filled with criminals and he goes and kills another person?  Your interpretation of this theology makes no sense, nor does it help defeat our enemies.



I just cannot understand why you forbid saying N*gger, which is an English word, when it's certain that Engalnd will never be associated with any ideology just by the use of her language (it's an international language), but don't care about the desecration of Yiddish and the memory of its speakers.
You say you don't hate all Blacks and that Schvartse is not a slur (in fact it's just a name of a colour in Yiddish), but you fail to realise that any Black person who reads it (even those Blacks whom you call righteous and claim not to hate) will understand it as an Yiddish insult, since they obvioulsy don't speak Yiddish and don't know the meaning. They only know that the word is used here to refer to them.
Rubystars, I had already mentioned that in your case it was the filter and not you who wrote that word.
Now, reagarding your faith, your thoughts about Haitian victims are not Christian either. According to Christianity, Haitians are your neighbours and you should keep the commamndment to love your neighbour as yourself. On the other side, the Noahide Laws do not speak of considering all humans as neighbours neither are Noahides commanded to keep the Ten Commandments. Noahidism only commands to keep Seven Laws, including not to murder or harm others physically or psychologically (from which we can understand that it's also wrong to entice others to hate people, mock them, dscouraging help in times of need and so on). While it is wrong for a Noahide to be insensitive not feeling pity about the misfortunes of others even in a distant place, it's not a sin (unless you are in that place, are the only one who can help and refuse to do so). According to Christianity it IS a sin.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 26, 2010, 04:08:12 PM
The issue of not helping an enemy who could later kill a righteous one applies during war. Haiti is not at war.
If we applied it in peace times, then we shouldn't save anyone. By this logic we shouldn't help a stranger whom we find in danger due to the possibility that he may become a murderer later. Why applying that logic specially to Haitians?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 27, 2010, 07:16:51 PM
The issue of not helping an enemy who could later kill a righteous one applies during war. Haiti is not at war.
If we applied it in peace times, then we shouldn't save anyone. By this logic we shouldn't help a stranger whom we find in danger due to the possibility that he may become a murderer later. Why applying that logic specially to Haitians?

But we are at war..but with evil...and as far as I'm concerned, Haiti carries out an evil culture..The burdon of proof of righteous is on them.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 27, 2010, 08:28:37 PM
The issue of not helping an enemy who could later kill a righteous one applies during war. Haiti is not at war.
If we applied it in peace times, then we shouldn't save anyone. By this logic we shouldn't help a stranger whom we find in danger due to the possibility that he may become a murderer later. Why applying that logic specially to Haitians?

But we are at war..but with evil...and as far as I'm concerned, Haiti carries out an evil culture..The burdon of proof of righteous is on them.

You just feel repulsion to Haitians because they are Black, poor and undeveloped. Evil is everywhere. All those who refuse to recognise Jewish Jerusalem are evil, and certainly most of them are not exactly black and poor. If you you want to follow dark feelings in your heart instaed of justice, what can I do? If you are Jewish, just remember you of the Shema (3rd paragraph) you recite twice a day: Velo Taturu acharei levavechem veacharei eineichem asher atem zonim acharechem.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 27, 2010, 08:57:28 PM
Raul, I'm sorry that people's feelings about blacks upsets you so much but most blacks have a highly degenerate culture. I don't think anybody hates blacks because they're a different color. If they do, that's just silly.

Hatians in general follow an evil, degenerate culture. Their society is full of rape, child abuse, murder, and evil behavior of all sorts, including witchcraft/voodoo. They're also highly infected with disease brought on by sinful behaviors. From a Biblical perspective, how do you think God views such places?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 27, 2010, 09:05:25 PM
Raul, you are crazy, and I am starting more and more to think you are a troublemaker.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 27, 2010, 09:10:05 PM
Raul, I'm sorry that people's feelings about blacks upsets you so much but most blacks have a highly degenerate culture. I don't think anybody hates blacks because they're a different color. If they do, that's just silly.

Hatians in general follow an evil, degenerate culture. Their society is full of rape, child abuse, murder, and evil behavior of all sorts, including witchcraft/voodoo. They're also highly infected with disease brought on by sinful behaviors. From a Biblical perspective, how do you think G-d views such places?

What's so wrong specially with vooddo? Idol worship is idol worship, no matter if one worships the spirits of ancestors, the Hindu gods, the Celt paganism... And how do you think G-d views America always pressing on Israel to commit suicide? Would you like being labeled as evil just because the majority of Americans voted for an anti-Israeli Govt?
When any country does evil or supports it, we say they're a self-hating and we must save them. When the population is Black we say they must be hated and destroyed or at least abandoned to their fate. Why that doubble standard?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 27, 2010, 09:22:57 PM
Raul, you are crazy, and I am starting more and more to think you are a troublemaker.

Dr. Brennan. You must know that the majority of the world wants Yisra'el to commit suicide together with Europe. Let Arabs have Jerusalem, a military Fakestinian State that will bring nothing but anihilation, a Muslim infiltration in Europe which may lead to another Holocaust of both Jews and Gentiles. What do you think the result will be if the few people who dare to speak the truth are at the same time posting inhumane comments about other nations? How do you think an Haitian who has lost all his family and is hungry and wounded would feel if he reads that posts? What feelings could he have if the first time he hears about the Jewish People is in a post saying that Haiti deserves its suffering?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: cjd on March 27, 2010, 09:45:07 PM
Raul, you are crazy, and I am starting more and more to think you are a troublemaker.

Dr. Brennan. You must know that the majority of the world wants Yisra'el to commit suicide together with Europe. Let Arabs have Jerusalem, a military Fakestinian State that will bring nothing but anihilation, a Muslim infiltration in Europe which may lead to another Holocaust of both Jews and Gentiles. What do you think the result will be if the few people who dare to speak the truth are at the same time posting inhumane comments about other nations? How do you think an Haitian who has lost all his family and is hungry and wounded would feel if he reads that posts? What feelings could he have if the first time he hears about the Jewish People is in a post saying that Haiti deserves its suffering?
Who really cares what filthy animals like that think anyway. Israel was among the first to send doctors to help after the disaster and the thanks they got was to be accused of going there to harvest organs. America has also had to wipe their very a-s over the years because for the most part the people of Haiti are just to stupid and lazy to do much of anything but hold their hands out for what they need or die of disease and starvation. Honestly if the earthquake would have caused the entire Haitian part of the island to sink under the sea it would  have been a blessing to world and even the Haitians themselves. 
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 27, 2010, 09:50:12 PM
I believe that any religion not based on the Bible can not be truly moral. I won't talk about Hinduism out of respect for our Hindu members because I've already talked about it ad nauseam and there's no new points I really have to make about it at this time.

Celtic and other European paganism was just as bad in its own way as voodoo. True old-style European pagans did conduct human sacrifices among other things. When the Nazis honored paganism and began rejecting Biblical morality, they murdered millions of innocent people.

Today we mostly have watered down versions of yuppies from suburbia casting love spells, and occasionally seen "sky clad". They're very silly. They think they believe in "the harmony of nature" like some stupid version of the Fern Gully movie or Avatar, rather than the dark, filthy reality of pagan belief. They'd be scared to death of the real paganism they only think they emulate.

I'm not making any excuses for these white pagans, either the old type or the new. They are commiting a serious sin, an abomination before God. It's not just "idol worship" or "superstition" that's the issue, but the fact that what they're dabbling in is deadly serious and evil if they get too far into it, no matter how much they claim to only practice good magic.

Voodoo is like this too. It has a very dark (no pun intended) side to it, and a lighter, more friendly to the public eye side of it. I heard an interview on a radio show with a voodoo believer one time who said that she doesn't do anything evil. She probably doesn't do anything too heinous, but she's dead wrong if she doesn't realize there's a a very evil side to it.

Any country that is full of paganism like that, that worships demonic type entities, (whether they call them Odin or Adjasou is immaterial), will be bringing curses upon itself.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Lisa on March 27, 2010, 09:52:21 PM
I don't think anyone on this forum is happy to see children in Haiti trapped under rubble and starving.  I certainly don't.  

On the other hand, what I think the other members are getting at is that no matter how much money is pumped into places like Haiti, and countries in Africa.  The situation never improves.  I think a good part of it is due to the evil culture of these places (which is not to say that every Haitian or African is a bad person).  I read in an article on Arutz Sheva that most Haitians start becoming sexually active by the age of twelve, and some even by the age of eight.  Also, I read on another blog that Haitians were putting up road blocks, which prevented help from getting to them in a timely manner.  There was also something on CNN about an orphanage being looted.  Does this sound familiar to you?  

Remember that during Hurricane Katrina, the New Orleans residents were shooting at helicopters which came to deliver aid.  When a bunch of locals were given shelter at the city's football stadium, there were quite a few rapes and robberies.  

Now when the Jews of Europe were rounded up and stuffed into cattle cars like animals, did they riot?  Did the Jews in the concentration camps put up road blocks?  Did they shoot at the Allies?  Did they rape each other?  Did they rob?  I don't think so. 

Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 27, 2010, 09:58:04 PM
CJD, those inhumane posts do not belong in a Jewish Forum or in any forum where the Name of H" is mentioned.
Rubystars, paganism and worshipping idols is a sin, but idols are not demniac entities. They are simply imaginary beings who do not exist. Idolatray is wrong because the idolator rejects and offends H" (if he has been properly warned about that). But idols are simply imagination.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 27, 2010, 10:02:32 PM
CJD, those inhumane posts do not belong in a Jewish Forum or in any forum where the Name of H" is mentioned.
Rubystars, paganism and worshipping idols is a sin, but idols are not demniac entities. They are simply imaginary beings who do not exist. Idolatray is wrong because the idolator rejects and offends H" (if he has been properly warned about that). But idols are simply imagination.

We may have to partially just agree to disagree on that. I think that pagan idols start out as imaginary, but I also think that an evil spirit can fill the void so to speak in order to soak up the worship that should rightfully be going to God. Of course in the end God will triumph over all these entities, imaginary or real. Remember that the Egyptian sorcerors had real power, but that the real God's power was much greater!
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 27, 2010, 10:05:48 PM
Now when the Jews of Europe were rounded up and stuffed into cattle cars like animals, did they riot?  Did the Jews in the concentration camps put up road blocks?  Did they shoot at the Allies?  Did they rape each other?  Did they rob?  I don't think so. 

Exactly Lisa! Jews are wonderful human beings. Actually it would have been better if they had fought back more, but your point stands. Jews are wonderful people, they didn't act like the blacks of New Orleans or Haiti when put under extreme duress. They retained their humanity even in de-humanizing conditions.

Your entire post explained things much better than I've been able to do. The main point that I've been thinking about today, which you made, is that even when we do send aid to help blacks, it usually never seems to improve anything.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: cjd on March 27, 2010, 10:18:29 PM
CJD, those inhumane posts do not belong in a Jewish Forum or in any forum where the Name of H" is mentioned.
Yea..... OK.... That may be your opinion. I don't happen to agree. I believe the disaster was a natural one and not something sent by G-d as punishment. I was all for America sending aid to help the so called people that needed assistance even thought no amount of help would ever suffice in a place like that.  G-d helps people that help themselves from what I have seen over the years with Haiti nobody told that to the Haitians. I feel sorry for the few good people living there but the evil the place harbors overrides the entire picture.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 27, 2010, 10:57:49 PM
Raul, you can't compare any Jews, and most whites, with these fiends. Even the most self-hating and secular Jews are civilized, educated, behave like human beings, and would lay down their lives for their loved ones. Honestly, how many blacks can you say that of?

The vast majority of American whites are not pagans. Even most European whites are not today--they're just secular. Even most pagan whites today are very selective in how they practice their demon-worship. You can't compare a handful of fruitcake hippie whites to a nation that is based upon voodoo and adheres to it as devoutly as Saudi Arabia adheres to Islam.

Your argument that we can't use racial terms on a Jewish forum is asinine. Do you have any idea how many Jews have been murdered by negroes, even though historically and up to the very present most Jews have done everything that they can to help them? How many blacks, either in America or Africa, including the most "devout Christian" ones, are Zionists? Hello!
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 27, 2010, 11:05:29 PM
Self-hating Jews generally act like that due to lack of Torah education, and are in fact still civilised (except those who support abortion or expell other Jews). Many secular whites are also civilised to some degree, but anti-semites, no matter their race or skin are animals. ooopppps sorry for the animals!
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 27, 2010, 11:10:59 PM
A much greater proportion of blacks are anti-Semites than whites are, especially in America. Do you not realize that or just not care?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 27, 2010, 11:17:36 PM
A much greater proportion of blacks are anti-Semites than whites are, especially in America. Do you not realize that or just not care?

There are anti-Semites everywhere. In Europe, most anti-Semites were white right wings. Now it's the leftists. They are destroying Europe and supporting Islam, no matter that Islam wants to destroy Europe. Just because they hate Jews. And we have nearly no Blacks in Europe. In America, the proportion of anti-Semites may be greater among Blacks just because Blacks have been influenced by the Leftists. In Africa, most Black tribes do not even know about the Jews.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Secularbeliever on March 27, 2010, 11:20:25 PM
I go back and forth on this racial issue.  I have generally gotten along fine in my dealings with Blacks although I know what a degraded culture most of them live in.  I think it is fine to point that out but I would prefer not to use terms like [censored] or even Schvartze (let's be honest nobody on this board uses it as a compliment or a neutral term).  I think that all people deserve to be judged as individuals for better or worse.  I think Obama deserves to be judged as a scumbag who is endangering Israel's survival and America's prosperity and exceptionalism.  In some ways that is giving him a pass if you attribute his evilness to his race as opposed to his just being evil.  He deserves to be held accountable as an individual.  If you honestly believe that G-d judges people do you think he uses an affirmative action scale and will judge differently for Obama because his father was Black?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Jochen on March 28, 2010, 04:15:03 AM
Making fun of human beings is against Torah. Why hating, mocking and degrading Haitians for their skin colour, when H" would even accept any of them as an Israelite in case he wanted to convert and live by the Torah?
Your completely right! If people starting to discriminate other people because only of their skin colour or origin :o than we are going to have a really big problem.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 28, 2010, 04:31:26 AM
Making fun of human beings is against Torah. Why hating, mocking and degrading Haitians for their skin colour, when H" would even accept any of them as an Israelite in case he wanted to convert and live by the Torah?
Your completely right! If people starting to discriminate other people because only of their skin colour or origin :o than we are going to have a really big problem.


It's not about skin color or ethnic origin.

Somebody could be purple with flashing neon pink and green spots and I wouldn't hate them for it. Color or ethnic origin is not the issue. It's degenerate and evil behavior by this group of people. To pretend that all those blacks that act that way are only doing so as individuals who made bad choices would be turning a blind eye to an obvious pattern. There are righteous blacks but they are the exception to the rule, not the norm. Maybe one day that will change, but at the moment we need to face the reality as it is, not as we wish it to be.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 28, 2010, 04:58:16 AM
Raul I'm curious about something. I read a Wikipedia article that says that Argentina is 92% white, mostly of Spanish and Italian descent. Now I'm curious... how much contact with blacks do you have on a daily basis?

In my experience, those with more day-to-day contact with blacks tend to dislike them more, whereas people isolated in white neighborhoods who don't deal with the black's 'shines on a day-to-day basis tend to abhor racism and can't understand why people who live in close contact with them are so hate-filled.

Saying "I had a black friend that was a great person", etc. doesn't really mean anything. From what I've seen, black behavior changes slightly when surrounded by mostly white people too. They tend to behave worst in large groups of their own kind.

Now I may be completely wrong, and you may be in contact with large numbers of blacks on a day-to-day basis. If so, then I'm off base here.

If you're not in frequent contact with large numbers of them though, could you please open your mind just a little and think that maybe other people's experiences may be different?

Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 28, 2010, 05:15:56 AM
Yes, most people in Argentina is of European descent. There are also some Asians and, of course, native Amerindians. During colonial times, there were Black slaves. I cannot say what happened to them, some may have intermarried but it's said that the majority of them died in the independence war. They were offered freedom if the joined the army.
But I think the memory and experience of ancestors means a lot in a person's behaviour. Rememeber that Blacks were discriminated until some decades ago in America, they had no culture of their own, since they were forced to forget it, they couldn't get the culture of whites because they were hated. Without a heritage to love, it's pretty likely that a person is at higher risk of misconduct. Which law could Blacks love? Their trbal rules? They were robbed their heritage! The white's law who told they had to be slaves until late XVIII century? Many of them may still have family stories from the times of slavery.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 28, 2010, 05:32:13 AM
Anyway, the bad experiences you may have had with Blacks in USA does not entitle you to mock Haitians. I have had many problems with people here. Nationalists who hated me and my mother for being pro-British... later, Christians by name who hated me for trying to convert to Judaism or for being a Noahide. Teens who lit fires or placed objects to block my front door on the Shabbat. Should I hate Christians in a far away nation and mock them after a natural disaster then?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 28, 2010, 05:44:15 AM
Ok Raul thanks for replying. I think I understand why you feel the way you do now. Civilized people tend to have a lot of compassion for other people, especially if they see others suffering, and this is noble and understandable. I know this is a long post but please read it.

Honestly, I used to feel much the same way you do. When I was young, the schools I went to had mostly white kids in them (these days, it would be mostly Mexican more than likely), and the kids in my neighborhood that I played with as a young child were mostly white and some of them were Mexican. I saw some blacks at school, but I didn't really see the full "TNB", although I had glimpses of it.

Even as an adult with some knowledge of black behavior that I'd witnessed, I wanted to believe that stereotypes were only stereotypes, and that we should not use someone's race to pre-judge them or to guess how they would behave.

It took getting into the working world and college , doing my own shopping, etc. and actually witnessing how blacks behaved in packs and how blacks tended to show more of certain behaviors than other groups before I started to wake up.

One time, a friend of mine on Pal Talk who knew I liked Jews and Israel suggested that I join JTF. One of the first things I did was scroll down the page and click on the latest "Ask JTF" link, and listen. I heard Chaim talking about blacks in a disgusted tone of voice. I thought "This isn't the place for me, it's racist." I couldn't understand why a persecuted group like the Jews was having someone speak so harshly about another group that I felt had been persecuted.

Several things changed my mind. First, I saw how blacks behaved lazily in college, shoving their work off on other people, or if I was in a group with them, letting me do all the work. I didn't want to believe that it was because of their race. I tried to convince myself that they were just being bad individuals. I also saw blacks behaving very lewdly in ways that white people or even other nonwhite humans did not.

Two major things changed my mind completely: Hurricane Katrina and losing my promotion.

After Katrina, many very cruel, evil blacks came to my city Houston in Texas. They were VILE, nasty, criminal. They screamed racism at the slightest provocation. They used their race to get free stuff. They tried to steal donation cans, and they engaged in all types of horrible behavior at my jobs. One of them made me ten dollars short on my till by distracting me and grabbing a roll of quarters that I had gotten for my till. The Katrina evacuees killed people in Houston and criminals set up shop here. It was like a slap in the face after our city had opened our arms and hearts to them.

In the mean time, Houston blacks weren't that much better. I could tell you story after story of the crazy stuff they pulled.  I trained some blacks and time after time, they were promoted over me. I saw how I was the one being discriminated against, for being white! They got everything handed to them. I was denied advancement because I didn't contribute to diversity.

After all this I became very aware of racial differences, and when my friend suggested again that I join JTF, I was ready this time.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 28, 2010, 05:49:54 AM
Their culture was never stolen because they never really had a culture. Africa has always been a land of very primitive behaviors. There's a reason it's called the Dark continent and it wasn't because of the skin of its people.

Think "Dark Ages" for thousands upon thousands of years, with little or no change or advancement. 

You could argue they gained a lot more culture by coming to America. It's here that they got exposed to white music and began to be taught how to sing things like spirituals, gospel music, jazz, etc. that they have claimed as their own culture.

Anyway, the bad experiences you may have had with Blacks in USA does not entitle you to mock Haitians.

Hatians are for the most part degenerate, scummy. There are many sources for this and you don't have to look hard. I don't see why you can't see this.

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I have had many problems with people here. Nationalists who hated me and my mother for being pro-British... later, Christians by name who hated me for trying to convert to Judaism or for being a Noahide. Teens who lit fires or placed objects to block my front door on the Shabbat. Should I hate Christians in a far away nation and mock them after a natural disaster then?

I'm very sorry they were treating you so poorly and no I dont' think that was Christian behavior. One problem is that blacks behave in an evil way no matter where they are or how much money or other aid has been given to them. If you give starving Africans seeds to plant a farm, they will eat all the seeds, and will still be starving.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 28, 2010, 06:08:34 AM
Many African tribes have some ancient primitive wisdom. Have you heard about a tribe who represented Cirus star thousands of years ago exactly as it is now known by modern spacial telescopes? In 1871, there were still some Blacks in Buenos Aires, and there was a tragic epidemics of some disease called the "Yellow fever" which decimated the population. Blacks had an ancient tradition that it was trasmitted by mosquitoes, nobody paid attention to that "superstion". Now we know they were right. Why should Africans have development in the Western Style? After all it's their continent and they can live in the stonage if they like. Why hating Africans for having problems with Black Americans. In Africa, there are still tribes who don't know how to light a fire. It's their life. Not ours. Do you dislike Blacks only for the attacks you have received, or is it that you also feel repulsion to primitives?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 28, 2010, 06:17:16 AM
Many African tribes have some ancient primitive wisdom. Have you heard about a tribe who represented Cirus star thousands of years ago exactly as it is now known by modern spacial telescopes? In 1871, there were still some Blacks in Buenos Aires, and there was a tragic epidemics of some disease called the "Yellow fever" which decimated the population. Blacks had an ancient tradition that it was trasmitted by mosquitoes, nobody paid attention to that "superstion". Now we know they were right. Why should Africans have development in the Western Style? After all it's their continent and they can live in the stonage if they like. Why hating Africans for having problems with Black Americans. In Africa, there are still tribes who don't know how to light a fire. It's their life. Not ours. Do you dislike Blacks only for the attacks you have received, or is it that you also feel repulsion to primitives?


They are free to live in the Stone Age in Africa if they so choose (and they do), but the problem comes in when these same people with a very primitive mindset  are trying to live in the first world and it just doesn't work well. Many can't make it on their own without welfare of some kind because they don't know how to work. Others get work handed to them and despite poor performance or absenteeism, are promoted and given large salaries. There are a few who are genuinely qualified, but they're in the minority.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 28, 2010, 06:27:01 AM
Now, let's suppose, just suppose, that they are genetically different and less developed and were created to live in the African jungle hunting and collecting fruits. Who is to blame for taking them to America? And why hating those who remain in Africa?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 28, 2010, 10:25:02 AM
Now, let's suppose, just suppose, that they are genetically different and less developed and were created to live in the African jungle hunting and collecting fruits. Who is to blame for taking them to America? And why hating those who remain in Africa?

Many different groups of people are to blame for taking them out of Africa. There were tribal wars in Africa, and they captured each other and made each other slaves. Then some of those slaves were sold to slave traders and brought to America. Some slave traders were white. To this day, Arabs have black slaves.

It was one of the biggest mistakes ever made to bring them in as slaves. However you have to understand that in those days they were basically considered to be a beast of burden, and not really ever meant to go out and create their own cesspools like the Detroit of today. There were no black ghettoes in America where it was a death sentence for a white to walk through. When they were slaves, it was understood they were different and not to be treated as if they were exactly the same as everyone else. The blacks were under tight control, only breaking out in occasional rebellion, certainly not causing the trouble they are today.

When Lincoln talked about freeing the slaves. He said that we would have to figure out how to send them all back. They were never intended to actually live among whites as equals .

Think about it, to this day the majority of them have not been able to master the English language, but they speak in broken dialect, ommitting what they consider to be unecessary words, such as "is". Anti-racist scholars realized that no matter how much teachers tried to break them of this incorrect speech pattern, that black students were simply mostly unable to learn to speak correctly. They resorted to calling this broken, lazy form of English "AAVE" (African American Vernacular English) in order to attempt to legitimize it. Every other group of immigrants to this country is able to learn how to pronounce things correctly after the first generation, no problem.

Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on March 28, 2010, 10:29:08 AM
Races don't exist; cultures do.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 28, 2010, 10:33:08 AM
Africans in Africa are doing things that are bad and do affect the world in a bad way. They are poaching to death endangered animals, like the mountain gorilla and rhinos.

They are murdering each other in massive numbers, which is a human tragedy regardless of however else you feel about them. Sometimes they even eat each other.

Horrible diseases come from Africa, such as AIDS, and Ebola Zaire. Yes, AIDS originated in Africa because of the bush meat trade there. They were cutting up chimpanzees and eating them and/or selling the meat. When they hacked the chimpanzees with a machete, chimp blood spattered on them, and the virus made the leap to them, and mutated into a form which can infect human to human.

Their massive sexual immorality, including having multiple partners and raping little kids, is spreading the disease.

They engage in horrible rituals such as holding a screaming, struggling child down and scarring the child's face with a broken piece of glass to make raised bumps as a rite of passage.

They murdered the whites of Rhodesia, and they have also ruined South Africa.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 28, 2010, 11:26:51 AM
Raul I don't care what color the Haitians are and how dare you accuse me of being racist!? 
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 28, 2010, 01:28:49 PM
Raul I don't care what color the Haitians are and how dare you accuse me of being racist!? 

It's a shame how a funny video about Bush turned into all this isn't it. I think Raul has a really hard time understanding the issue because he lives in a 92% white country. I would almost kill to have those demographics here in the USA.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Jochen on March 28, 2010, 02:26:37 PM
It's not about skin color or ethnic origin.

Somebody could be purple with flashing neon pink and green spots and I wouldn't hate them for it. Color or ethnic origin is not the issue. It's degenerate and evil behavior by this group of people. To pretend that all those blacks that act that way are only doing so as individuals who made bad choices would be turning a blind eye to an obvious pattern. There are righteous blacks but they are the exception to the rule, not the norm. Maybe one day that will change, but at the moment we need to face the reality as it is, not as we wish it to be.
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Rubystar, no one said that our job is easy. And if we not the better ones, we to a useless job.

You see, its a very delicate video and unclear in intention. For some people is it only a funny video, for others has it racist intention.
The black Haitians are neglected and terrible misleadet and have hat a terrible fate. But the common Haitian have no special bad intention and epically not against the Jews. This guys are not your and not my enemies.
In my opinion, was Mr. Bush only mechanical thoughtless. No more, no less.

Schvartza's sounds very negative in my ears. First of all, this so called schvartza's are only humans with a special colour for protection against solar radiation. Very useful!
If we want to have success we have first of all to act justly, fair and considerately against everyone.

We have more to watch out to ourselves, otherwise we will loose.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 28, 2010, 07:34:08 PM
In fact Arabs, even milenia before Islam, were the first to involve in the slave trafficking. Slavery is as old as Humanity, but slave trade was began by Arabs. It is attested in the Torah that slave traders were travelling from Arabia to Egypt some 4000 years ago. It was one of those caravans who took Yoseph to Egypt. And slavery is still allowed in Islam, including slave women rape. It's silly that many Blacks still support Arabs. But it's also silly that so many Whites also support Muslims when they are eager to behead us.
Now what's the point of speaking against Blacks in a political forum? I don't mean that it was the fault of White Europeans only for bringing them out of Africa, many of them were captured by Arabs. But why hating them and saying they are a problem? Do you think it's possible to return them to Africa now, after about five centuries?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: cjd on March 28, 2010, 08:07:53 PM
Raul I don't care what color the Haitians are and how dare you accuse me of being racist!? 

It's a shame how a funny video about Bush turned into all this isn't it. I think Raul has a really hard time understanding the issue because he lives in a 92% white country. I would almost kill to have those demographics here in the USA.
I have to laugh when people who have very little dealings with blacks become their staunchest defenders. I would love to have the ability to arrange some quality time for them with the subject of their admiration. Not with the well dressed prissy almost like white folks blacks but real Planet Of The Apes like niggeras. If I took some of [censored] lovers for a ride on a hot day through some of the more impressive  black neighborhoods here in New York and told them they had to walk around with me there for a while to meet all the nice creatures living there most of them would never leave the car. Its all nice and high brow to preach racial doctrine but unless your able to say you have spent real time in the zoo don't tell the animal handlers how to deal with the animals.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 28, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
I couldn't have said it better myself CJD! Awesome post!
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Jochen on March 30, 2010, 03:00:40 PM
I couldn't have said it better myself CJD! Awesome post!

Because of serious reasons (Schoa) most of us Europeans, especially the Germans take care what we say and we are very sensitive in this matter. I suppose most of us don't change their attitude only why two moderators and some other have different opinions,  and even if they are Jews!!!
This is unnegotiable!
This is dangerous ... like opening Pandora's Box.
Today the colored people, tomorrow the Gypsies and after tomorrow the Jews again?!?
With such insights I'm humorlessly, very humorlessly.
I hope you are able to respect this point of attitude.

Peace
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: cjd on March 30, 2010, 06:16:53 PM
I couldn't have said it better myself CJD! Awesome post!

Because of serious reasons (Schoa) most of us Europeans, especially the Germans take care what we say and we are very sensitive in this matter. I suppose most of us don't change their attitude only why two moderators and some other have different opinions,  and even if they are Jews!!!
This is unnegotiable!
This is dangerous ... like opening Pandora's Box.
Today the colored people, tomorrow the Gypsies and after tomorrow the Jews again?!?
With such insights I'm humorlessly, very humorlessly.
I hope you are able to respect this point of attitude.

Peace
No speaking  for myself I can not. First off do not compare what a good part of Europe did to the Jews during WW2  with how blacks were and are treated here in America. The situations are not the same in the least. Blacks here in America were never rounded up for slaughter and worse by white America. Europe had no reason to do what it did to its Jewish population. Jews in Europe were among the most productive people not welfare sponges and violent criminal animals for the most part like blacks tend to be here in the U.S. In my book anyone comparing blacks to Jews is a jacka-s. White America has bent over backwards and spent billions of dollars to give black society a opportunity  to set themselves to rights. The results could not be worse.  In my opinion all America is doing is setting itself up to become another South Africa. People in Europe are in no position to speak about opening Pandora's Box because if it was not for America Pandora's box would have never been closed. Europe today is a social mess people should get their own house in order before complaining about the homes of others.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 30, 2010, 10:38:36 PM
I couldn't have said it better myself CJD! Awesome post!

Because of serious reasons (Schoa) most of us Europeans, especially the Germans take care what we say and we are very sensitive in this matter. I suppose most of us don't change their attitude only why two moderators and some other have different opinions,  and even if they are Jews!!!

I'm not Jewish. I'm a white Gentile and a Christian from Texas.

Now that we have that cleared up, I think you have to realize that blacks in the United States are very violent people in proportion to their population. They commit countless murders, rapes, armed robberies, and other acts of violence.

They would kill all white people and Jews if they could. They're just not as efficient at killing massive numbers of people as are evil people with higher IQs.

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This is unnegotiable!

I can only assume you haven't had enough contact with evil, ghetto, apelike blacks.

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This is dangerous ... like opening Pandora's Box.
Today the colored people, tomorrow the Gypsies and after tomorrow the Jews again?!?
With such insights I'm humorlessly, very humorlessly.
I hope you are able to respect this point of attitude.

Peace

According to you, if we judge blacks by the content of their character, and that judgment is unfavorable,t hen we want to kill Jews? What kind of logic is that? I think it's important to stand up for other righteous people if they are facing persecution, but blacks by and large are very evil.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on March 31, 2010, 09:54:20 AM
In fact Arabs, even milenia before Islam, were the first to involve in the slave trafficking. Slavery is as old as Humanity, but slave trade was began by Arabs. It is attested in the Torah that slave traders were travelling from Arabia to Egypt some 4000 years ago. It was one of those caravans who took Yoseph to Egypt. And slavery is still allowed in Islam, including slave women rape. It's silly that many Blacks still support Arabs. But it's also silly that so many Whites also support Muslims when they are eager to behead us.
Now what's the point of speaking against Blacks in a political forum? I don't mean that it was the fault of White Europeans only for bringing them out of Africa, many of them were captured by Arabs. But why hating them and saying they are a problem? Do you think it's possible to return them to Africa now, after about five centuries?
You hit the nail on the head. Arabs invented the slavery of negroes, and yet to this very day, virtually ALL blacks support the Arabs. I do not see virtually all whites, especially in America, supporting the Arabs.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Jochen on March 31, 2010, 02:48:03 PM
According to you, if we judge blacks by the content of their character, and that judgment is unfavorable,t hen we want to kill Jews? What kind of logic is that? I think it's important to stand up for other righteous people if they are facing persecution, but blacks by and large are very evil.

Racism needs no reasonable logic, only wide generalization.
Come to Europe. Here you can learn a lot about generalization.
The new antisemitism is called "offer criticism"
We have a growing anti-Semitism.
Do you think anti-Semitism is OK?
This guys here in Europe have a lot of explanations against the Jews and Israel and they generalize.
For your black problem you have not to quarrel. It was definitive not the intention from Africa's people to enter as slaves America.
You have to find reasonable solutions. There is no other way.
To be black is not a mental disease like the Islam ideology.

If you like to talk about brutal violence from societies against people, look to our history or to our churches, especially the catholic.
I can assure you, even this current scandal against innocent children is only the tip of the iceberg.
I know enough people who suffered therefore a whole live.
I'm neither a Christian nor a Jew but I belief on universal rules and something like a judgment day.
And I'm absolutely sure, it is counterproductive to talk to much thoughtless against the black people.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 31, 2010, 05:07:34 PM
According to you, if we judge blacks by the content of their character, and that judgment is unfavorable,t hen we want to kill Jews? What kind of logic is that? I think it's important to stand up for other righteous people if they are facing persecution, but blacks by and large are very evil.

Racism needs no reasonable logic, only wide generalization.
Come to Europe. Here you can learn a lot about generalization.
The new antisemitism is called "offer criticism"
We have a growing anti-Semitism.
Do you think anti-Semitism is OK?


Anti-Semitism or Jew hatred is not ok because the Jews are representatives of the Bible and are God's people.

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This guys here in Europe have a lot of explanations against the Jews and Israel and they generalize.
For your black problem you have not to quarrel. It was definitive not the intention from Africa's people to enter as slaves America.

And yet, they are much better off here than they are in Africa. Ask the average black in America or Europe if he'd rather move to Africa and face the diseases and hardship there, or live in the first world and live a relatively easy life, and the vast majority would choose a first world lifestyle.

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You have to find reasonable solutions. There is no other way.
To be black is not a mental disease like the Islam ideology.

They grow up being indoctrinated into very evil beliefs though and many are very sympathetic with Islam.

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If you like to talk about brutal violence from societies against people, look to our history or to our churches, especially the catholic.
I can assure you, even this current scandal against innocent children is only the tip of the iceberg.
I know enough people who suffered therefore a whole live.
I'm neither a Christian nor a Jew but I belief on universal rules and something like a judgment day.
And I'm absolutely sure, it is counterproductive to talk to much thoughtless against the black people.


I have a feeling you know nothing or very little about blacks to speak as you do.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: nessuno on March 31, 2010, 06:37:40 PM
According to you, if we judge blacks by the content of their character, and that judgment is unfavorable,t hen we want to kill Jews? What kind of logic is that? I think it's important to stand up for other righteous people if they are facing persecution, but blacks by and large are very evil.

Racism needs no reasonable logic, only wide generalization.
Come to Europe. Here you can learn a lot about generalization.
The new antisemitism is called "offer criticism"
We have a growing anti-Semitism.
Do you think anti-Semitism is OK?


Anti-Semitism or Jew hatred is not ok because the Jews are representatives of the Bible and are G-d's people.

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This guys here in Europe have a lot of explanations against the Jews and Israel and they generalize.
For your black problem you have not to quarrel. It was definitive not the intention from Africa's people to enter as slaves America.

And yet, they are much better off here than they are in Africa. Ask the average black in America or Europe if he'd rather move to Africa and face the diseases and hardship there, or live in the first world and live a relatively easy life, and the vast majority would choose a first world lifestyle.

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You have to find reasonable solutions. There is no other way.
To be black is not a mental disease like the Islam ideology.

They grow up being indoctrinated into very evil beliefs though and many are very sympathetic with Islam.

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If you like to talk about brutal violence from societies against people, look to our history or to our churches, especially the catholic.
I can assure you, even this current scandal against innocent children is only the tip of the iceberg.
I know enough people who suffered therefore a whole live.
I'm neither a Christian nor a Jew but I belief on universal rules and something like a judgment day.
And I'm absolutely sure, it is counterproductive to talk to much thoughtless against the black people.


I have a feeling you know nothing or very little about blacks to speak as you do.
I vote KNOW NOTHING. 
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 31, 2010, 08:10:28 PM
Rubystars, anti-Semistism is wrong not only because Jews are the Chosen People, no people, even if not chosen, deserves the atrocities which were done to Jews.

It is true that blacks never suffered an Holocaust in America, but remember that some anti-Semites do not support the Holocaust either, but still hate the Jews even if they disagree with nazism.

One correction, neither Blacks or Whites who suppport Muslims are sympathetic with Islam, they are sympathetic with Muslim attitude against Israel and Europe. Tell any pro-Islamic Black or White if they agree with killing or enslaving or non-Muslims, and (except for those who are themselves Muslim) they will reply :NO. But they still prefer to support Arabs. Both the right wings (mostly in the past) and the left now are indoctrinated to hate Jews. No matter their skin colour or ethnical origin.
Here in Argentina there are no Blacks, but many many people are anti-Semite. They label themselves as anti-Zionist but don't even care to hide their hate towards the Jewish People and Judaism. And more than many, I'd say the majority, are anti-British.

Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 31, 2010, 08:23:00 PM
Rubystars, anti-Semistism is wrong not only because Jews are the Chosen People, no people, even if not chosen, deserves the atrocities which were done to Jews.

You're right that Jews wouldn't deserve it, because Jews are not evil people. To compare Jews to blacks is a huge insult to Jews.

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It is true that blacks never suffered an Holocaust in America, but remember that some anti-Semites do not support the Holocaust either, but still hate the Jews even if they disagree with nazism.

Don't be so sure they wouldn't support the Holocaust. They support a second Holocaust by taking the side of the mythical so-called Palestinians.

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One correction, neither Blacks or Whites who suppport Muslims are sympathetic with Islam, they are sympathetic with Muslim attitude against Israel and Europe. Tell any pro-Islamic Black or White if they agree with killing or enslaving or non-Muslims, and (except for those who are themselves Muslim) they will reply :NO. But they still prefer to support Arabs. Both the right wings (mostly in the past) and the left now are indoctrinated to hate Jews. No matter their skin colour or ethnical origin.

Some people who are pro-Muslim are just plain stupid, but others really do support Islam as a religion. Blacks convert to Islam quite readily in prison, and huge numbers of blacks go to prison.

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Here in Argentina there are no Blacks,

That explains everything you posted in this thread. Consider yourself blessed to live in such a country!

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but many many people are anti-Semite. They label themselves as anti-Zionist but don't even care to hide their hate towards the Jewish People and Judaism. And more than many, I'd say the majority, are anti-British.

Anti-Zionist is pro-Holocaust. There's no getting around that fact.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 31, 2010, 08:37:22 PM
Anti-Zionists (except for those Jews who disagree with Zionism for some reason) are in fact pro-Holocaust. But those who label themselves as anti-Zionists, and even those who proudly admit they are anti-Semite will still falsely claim that they hate but do not support murder. If you allow any form of racial or ethnical discrimination or hate, they will have a point to claim their "right" to free speech. And remember that nazism is not yet fully outgone. Perhaps it is in America. But here, we still have some nazi-lke people willing to enjoy the Haitian earthquake and the Muslim attacks. Of course they also hate Muslims for being Arab Semites but enjoy when the Jews or Anglosaxons are attacked, just because both Jews, Americans and British opposed nazism during WWII.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on March 31, 2010, 09:18:58 PM
Anti-Zionists (except for those Jews who disagree with Zionism for some reason) are in fact pro-Holocaust. But those who label themselves as anti-Zionists, and even those who proudly admit they are anti-Semite will still falsely claim that they hate but do not support murder.

The logical conclusion of anti-Semitism is a Holocaust. If they want to say that their hate for Jews extends so far but no further, then of course it's a lie and of course they want to murder the Jews.

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If you allow any form of racial or ethnical discrimination or hate, they will have a point to claim their "right" to free speech. And remember that nazism is not yet fully outgone. Perhaps it is in America. But here, we still have some nazi-lke people willing to enjoy the Haitian earthquake and the Muslim attacks.

I didn't enjoy hearing about the Hatian earthquake, but I will say that when people are hurt in Argentina I have much more sympathy for them than I do for the Hatians.

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Of course they also hate Muslims for being Arab Semites but enjoy when the Jews or Anglosaxons are attacked, just because both Jews, Americans and British opposed nazism during WWII.

The leaders in America and Britain were also anti-Semites and could have stopped the Holocaust but didn't. I think there might be some Nazis in Argentina because many WW2 Nazis escaped on the rat lines to South America and the Middle East and Argentina is in South America. The original Nazis may have had some influence int hose areas. I hope that this virus can be eradicated in your country, because Nazis bring curses down upon any country they are a part of.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 31, 2010, 10:32:48 PM
Yes, I mean here in Argentina. There are still some nazis (not the war criminals who arrived after the war) who hate Blacks, Jews, Asians and even Arabs for not being Aryan. However they support Muslim attacks. They are nearly outgone. But there are still some of them. Anyway with the liberals of today, who needs nazis? That's why anti-Semitism is lead by leftists now.
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on April 01, 2010, 12:09:06 AM
Yes, I mean here in Argentina. There are still some nazis (not the war criminals who arrived after the war) who hate Blacks, Jews, Asians and even Arabs for not being Aryan. However they support Muslim attacks. They are nearly outgone. But there are still some of them. Anyway with the liberals of today, who needs nazis? That's why anti-Semitism is lead by leftists now.

You do know that leftists are the ones asking whites and others to worship blacks, right?
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Jochen on April 04, 2010, 05:16:51 AM
I have a feeling you know nothing or very little about blacks to speak as you do.

Maybe not as much as you. But I have a huge of experience how peoples mind works – and not only Cause and Effect!

Something (from Reuters) about the growing Anti-Semitism in Germany / Europe
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100329/tpl-uk-germany-jews-attacks-39349ed.html
One of the main reasons  is, our people tolerates that for some reasons and / or is careless (stuff for an own thread)

In an other post you wrote that blacks convert in prison to Islam.
Yes I can imagine. This criminals comes regularly from rough and unjust environments.
The go in jail and there they find Muslim guys who gives them - may be the first time in the live - attention and something like understanding and a lot of sympathy, and they give them a concept of an enemy: The white people. A Trap!
And we have no concept against this proceeding?!? Our fail?
Go in the past, 250 years back in Europe. You can hear the white children crying whose white fathers have thrown them for killing in the cesspit. No priest and no rabbi helped!
I can assure you, to be violent and satanic cruel is definitive not a patent from the blacks.

Do you not have a huge community of reliable and good black Christians in the USA?
The last what we need is to annoy the blacks unnecessary. We have more than enough opposer and we need not a single more.
I'm worry about a bigger conflict (World War III) and I will not have the blacks against us! It's not only totally unnecessary, its dangerous!

Rubystars , I'd like to end this discussion on this point, but I will read your answer.
I'm a good writer, but my English is in a terrible condition, so it’s not easy for me to discuss such difficult problems with you.
I hope it's OK for you that I'm not the one who agrees every time. I like harmony but I'm not a yes man.
In my opinion only independent minded guys come to reasonable points, others are useless and in difficult situations not steadily! I don't trust them.   
Title: Re: George Bush: "Ewww! Hatian grease!"
Post by: Rubystars on April 04, 2010, 09:51:46 AM
I have a feeling you know nothing or very little about blacks to speak as you do.

Maybe not as much as you. But I have a huge of experience how peoples mind works – and not only Cause and Effect!

Blacks generally don't think in the same ways as other people. With an average IQ of 85 in America (which used to be considered the threshold for retardation, now lowered to 70), large numbers of them tend to think in impulsive, almost child-like ways. This might be ok for an 8 or 9 year old child, but many blacks never move beyond that age mentally. When you think that half of blacks in America have an IQ below 85, then you might be able to begin to understand that they are especially prone to being manipulated, by Islam, by left wing social engineers, etc. There are of course some blacks that are smarter (about half fall above 85, 100 is what is average for white people), and some few even fall into the genius ranges, but these are extremely rare cases.

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Something (from Reuters) about the growing Anti-Semitism in Germany / Europe
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100329/tpl-uk-germany-jews-attacks-39349ed.html
One of the main reasons  is, our people tolerates that for some reasons and / or is careless (stuff for an own thread)

There is no excuse for anti-Semitism. Jews are in general, good people. Jews are nonviolent. Jews are smart and contribute great things to the world.

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In an other post you wrote that blacks convert in prison to Islam.
Yes I can imagine. This criminals comes regularly from rough and unjust environments.

Blacks create these "unjust" environments themselves.

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The go in jail and there they find Muslim guys who gives them - may be the first time in the live - attention and something like understanding and a lot of sympathy, and they give them a concept of an enemy: The white people. A Trap!

They fall all too easily into this trap because Islam is about violence and sex and those are two things that blacks understand.

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And we have no concept against this proceeding?!? Our fail?

Not our fail at all. Millions upon millions of dollars have been channeled to the black community and all of it may as well have been flushed down a toilet.

They're given food stamps, payed for mostly by the white community, and they either buy all junk with it, or find a way to trade the food stamps for drugs, alcohol, or cigarettes while their children cry in hunger. I've read many stories where a black mother will give her baby a little bit of cocaine to make them stop crying in hunger rather than feed the baby. That's not the worst things they do to their babies, but that's another topic.

They're given free housing, and they completely and totally trash it, including ripping out copper wires and pipes.

Anything people try to do for blacks ends up basically being for no good.

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Go in the past, 250 years back in Europe. You can hear the white children crying whose white fathers have thrown them for killing in the cesspit. No priest and no rabbi helped!
I can assure you, to be violent and satanic cruel is definitive not a patent from the blacks.

All humans have cruel people in their populations. However blacks are basically the worst in the world when it comes to cruel behaviors.

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Do you not have a huge community of reliable and good black Christians in the USA?

I wish that were true. Maybe if Pastor Manning succeeds in his mission work to the black community, there will be one day. Most black churches are very left wing like Obama's church, and besides that, they seem to only be a place for black women to display to each other outrageous sequined peacock outfits.

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The last what we need is to annoy the blacks unnecessary.

Us annoy them?  :laugh: :::D Nothing we ever do for them will be enough!

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We have more than enough opposer and we need not a single more.
I'm worry about a bigger conflict (World War III) and I will not have the blacks against us! It's not only totally unnecessary, its dangerous!

If you live in Germany your main enemy is the Muslim threat. Fight that threat with all your heart and soul, but don't look to blacks for help. They already hate you.

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Rubystars , I'd like to end this discussion on this point, but I will read your answer.

Ok.

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I'm a good writer, but my English is in a terrible condition, so it’s not easy for me to discuss such difficult problems with you.
I hope it's OK for you that I'm not the one who agrees every time. I like harmony but I'm not a yes man.
In my opinion only independent minded guys come to reasonable points, others are useless and in difficult situations not steadily! I don't trust them.   


You write very well in English! I would love to learn some other languages but I haven't yet so you're a lot better off than I am as far as that goes. I have to have a lot of respect for anyone willing to learn English because I've heard it's a really difficult language to learn if you haven't grown up with it.

I think it's good that we can have a debate and I don't expect you to agree with everything I say. I do hope that you can learn over time more about blacks though.