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Title: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: DownwithIslam on May 11, 2007, 11:29:05 PM
Every kosher food establishment I have entered in NYC recently has some shvartzas and mainly cookarachas working the counter. I am always so scared that one of them has spit in the food or done something worse. Even if they don't intentionally do something, they are naturally unsanitary which is not good when working with food. I think if people happen to know of Kosher food establishments in the NYC area which have only humans preparing the food and serving the customers, they should be kind enough to list the name and location of the place in this thread. Thanks
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on May 11, 2007, 11:31:35 PM
What the heck is new? In Israel, all the restaurants run on dirt-wage Arab labor too.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: DownwithIslam on May 11, 2007, 11:34:48 PM
Yeah but I have no place to go if I want to eat out. I want to have a human serving me. Please people, list kosher, human run restaurants in NYC. Chaimfan, you have no idea the felling I get when an illegal alien serves me schwarma in a Israeli owned restaurant. I feel like vomiting. I never have a peaceful meal, rather I worry if something other than fat and protein is in the meat.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on May 11, 2007, 11:45:57 PM
I don't think you have a choice. You can cook all your own food, but you know that the vegetable and meat packing/shipping plants all use wetbacks too.  :(
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: DownwithIslam on May 12, 2007, 12:02:46 AM
Hehe I am afraid you are right but I have come across human run places. They are rare and that is why I am seeking everyones help.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Lisa on May 12, 2007, 12:58:21 AM
There's a restaurant on First Avenue and 74th Street called Rectangles.  They are kosher, and are open Saturdays.  The waitresses are all Israelis, but I don't know about the cooks.  The food there is good.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Sarah on May 12, 2007, 08:18:05 AM
I remember last year, when i was a muslim, my mum and I went to a restuarent in the centre, i ordered a drink and was served with a can covered in Hebrew. Then all of a sudden a group of Israelis came storming out of the back room......and behold...we were trapped. My mum was seemingly oblivious to it all but i found it quite menancing, especially when the Israelis decided to stare intently at us extremely hostile.     
 Downwithislam maybe you should cause up a fuss and try to get the illegal aliens sacked. It would be your 2 cents....
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 12, 2007, 08:20:14 AM
 
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especially when the Israelis decided to stare intently at us with extremely  lustfull look
 
Fixed ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Allen-T on May 12, 2007, 08:24:56 AM
Every kosher food establishment I have entered in NYC recently has some shvartzas and mainly cookarachas working the counter. I am always so scared that one of them has spit in the food or done something worse. Even if they don't intentionally do something, they are naturally unsanitary which is not good when working with food. I think if people happen to know of Kosher food establishments in the NYC area which have only humans preparing the food and serving the customers, they should be kind enough to list the name and location of the place in this thread. Thanks

Dude, that's in just about every restaurant, Kosher or otherwise!! I don't drive but yesterday I rented a car and was out and about on Long Island. I stopped in a Wendy's on Sunrise Hwy in the Wantagh area. I was shocked that it was all white people, except for 1 hispanic woman and even she looked clean. Cook at home, that's the only solution. Also I went out with my wife and mom to a seafood restaurant earlier in the day in Lindenhurst and all the waitresses were nice white women. maybe LI ain't so bad after all!!
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Allen-T on May 12, 2007, 08:30:02 AM
I remember last year, when i was a muslim, my mum and I went to a restuarent in the centre, i ordered a drink and was served with a can covered in Hebrew. Then all of a sudden a group of Israelis came storming out of the back room......and behold...we were trapped. My mum was seemingly oblivious to it all but i found it quite menancing, especially when the Israelis decided to stare intently at us extremely hostile.     
 Downwithislam maybe you should cause up a fuss and try to get the illegal aliens sacked. It would be your 2 cents....

There is nothing that can be done legally about illegals. I reported 2 illegals numerous times to authorities, names,place where they work, their work schedules, NOTHING was done except the people on the phone treated me like I was doing something wrong. They kept insisting they needed their home address. If something could be done, I would be reporting people and places, the laundermat around the block for example, EVERY DAY. I would devote 1 hour a day to do this, get a shirt with the Dept. Of Immigration's phone number on it, etc. I hate these pigs.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Sarah on May 12, 2007, 10:31:57 AM
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There is nothing that can be done legally about illegals

Thats the most ironic fact of it all.... the sickening truth. However if you accuse people of making too much noise, selling drugs or something as terrible of the sort the authorities tend to get on to it over here.

When i went to parliament for work experience, illegal constinuents continuosly phoned up the MP i was with....on one occasion, a man told an office worker that he had a visa but they wanted to deport him. The man was American and didn't fully understand the bongo nonsense the man was spouting. The phone was then passed to a lady. The man who had claimed he was living here legally, then burst out into hysterics, laughing for ages down the line, exclaiming that he came to england in a polish lorry and is living here illegally and loves england, especially the whores, so please dont let him go back to his country because they don't have nice food.

The people in parliament - yes the governing building of the country, who help enforce immigration- happily told the man they'd help him stay and will phone the home office on his behalf and said they wouldn't tell anyone if he worked and he shouldn't spread it either.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on May 12, 2007, 10:46:10 AM
In southern Utah all the counter girls at the sandwich shops are white. (But Utah is one of the most illegal-friendly of the western states outside of CA.  >:()
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 12, 2007, 10:47:50 AM
Not in salt lake city ,they have an extreme leftist mayor
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on May 12, 2007, 10:50:19 AM
It's not just SLC, it's statewide. My theory (just a theory, but one based on a bit of an understanding of the culture and religion) is that the Mormons are attempting to be good witnesses to the Hispanic population. Most Mormons focus heavily on Hispanics.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 12, 2007, 10:55:10 AM
No he is left wing on everything the iraq war called bush a war criminal.Look up mayor rocky anderson
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on May 12, 2007, 10:58:54 AM
I believe it. But the UT state legislature has bent over backwards for illegals, and they are a conservative "red state", at least according to conventional wisdom. I will have to ask my friends in SLC about that guy, though.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Lisa on May 12, 2007, 12:44:22 PM
Chaimfan, what is the meaning of being a "good witness" to the illegals? 
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: BabylonianJew on May 12, 2007, 02:32:58 PM
Every kosher food establishment I have entered in NYC recently has some shvartzas and mainly cookarachas working the counter. I am always so scared that one of them has spit in the food or done something worse. Even if they don't intentionally do something, they are naturally unsanitary which is not good when working with food. I think if people happen to know of Kosher food establishments in the NYC area which have only humans preparing the food and serving the customers, they should be kind enough to list the name and location of the place in this thread. Thanks

Would you also feel disguisted by being served by an Mizrachi Jews >:(, because many of us are dark :
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 12, 2007, 02:40:08 PM
What are you talking about i eat in a Yemenite restaurentall the time,all the workers are YEMENITE JEWS
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: BabylonianJew on May 12, 2007, 02:44:36 PM
What are you talking about i eat in a Yemenite restaurentall the time,all the workers are YEMENITE JEWS

I was talking to DownwithIslam not you, i want to know his answer. Yemenite Jews are cool!
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: DownwithIslam on May 12, 2007, 03:01:42 PM
What are you talking about? Why would you even ask me such a stupid question unless you were trying to provoke me. I would eat out of a Yemenite jews hand the same way I would eat my mothers food. I don't even know why you asked something stupid like this in a thread which was addressing the cookarachas and shvartzas in kosher restaurants. I have absolutely nothing against anyone because of their skin color. Yemenite jews are jews.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: BabylonianJew on May 12, 2007, 03:14:00 PM
What are you talking about? Why would you even ask me such a stupid question unless you were trying to provoke me. I would eat out of a Yemenite jews hand the same way I would eat my mothers food. I don't even know why you asked something stupid like this in a thread which was addressing the cookarachas and shvartzas in kosher restaurants. I have absolutely nothing against anyone because of their skin color. Yemenite jews are jews.

oh I do apologize, yeah it was stupid. I would never eat in [censored] areas, only in Jewish areas, i even eat in arab areas, because their clean and not afframative actions, and their christian arabs who are not muslims. I only don't eat from afframtive action people like [censored].
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: DownwithIslam on May 12, 2007, 04:35:07 PM
Good, and also make sure those Christian arabs are real Christians and not muzzys.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on May 12, 2007, 06:32:55 PM
UGGH, the forum or server or whatever has been going nuts lately and making my replies into entirely new threads.  >:(

Anyway, Lisa, what I meant is that the Mormons are bending over backwards for the illegals in the interest of wooing them for conversion.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: OdKahaneChai on May 13, 2007, 02:04:56 AM
I think it's kinda stupid that you wouldn't go to a kosher restaurant just because there are shvartzas working there, but if you want to schlep all the way to Queens (I assume you're in Manhattan), I was at Ben's Best Deli in Rego Park on Queens Blvd. a long time ago, and I don't remember any Jews working there, but I don't remember any schvartas either so...  But otherwise, I can't help you (I don't live in NY).
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 13, 2007, 07:49:12 AM
I think it's kinda stupid that you wouldn't go to a kosher restaurant just because there are shvartzas working there, but if you want to schlep all the way to Queens (I assume you're in Manhattan), I was at Ben's Best Deli in Rego Park on Queens Blvd. a long time ago, and I don't remember any Jews working there, but I don't remember any schvartas either so...  But otherwise, I can't help you (I don't live in NY).
I hate Ben's Best a few blocks south of Bens is a good kosher yemenite reataurant all the workers are yemenite Jews
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: cjd on May 13, 2007, 07:55:12 AM
I think it's kinda stupid that you wouldn't go to a kosher restaurant just because there are shvartzas working there, but if you want to schlep all the way to Queens (I assume you're in Manhattan), I was at Ben's Best Deli in Rego Park on Queens Blvd. a long time ago, and I don't remember any Jews working there, but I don't remember any schvartas either so...  But otherwise, I can't help you (I don't live in NY).
I hate Ben's Best a few blocks south of Bens is a good kosher yemenite reataurant all the workers are yemenite Jews
When I lived in Queens N.Y many years ago there was a Jewish style Deli on Queens Blv. across from the court houses. Deli Masters or something like that it was very good. Does anyone know if that place is still there?
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 13, 2007, 08:16:57 AM
No it went down hill ..Pastrami king
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: cjd on May 13, 2007, 08:23:22 AM
No it went down hill ..Pastrami king
Yes exactly!! Thats to bad they had nice stuff there. Its been 20 years since I was there last.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: TorahZionist on May 13, 2007, 09:39:41 AM
They are kosher, and are open Saturdays.

Do they have a reliable hechsher?
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: jabotinsky on May 13, 2007, 09:58:43 AM
Down with Islam and Christianity and Hindus. Enough appeasing of these Haters and Ovdei Avodah Zarah. Torah before money.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Lisa on May 13, 2007, 11:30:35 AM
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Do they have a reliable hechsher?

I don't know about that, but you can call them and ask them if you like.  Here's their contact information:

Rectangles Cafe & Bar
Address:  1431 1st Ave, New York, NY 10021
Phone:      (212) 744-7470

Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Lisa on May 13, 2007, 11:34:22 AM
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Down with Islam and Christianity and Hindus. Enough appeasing of these Haters and Ovdei Avodah Zarah. Torah before money.

Actually, we have wonderful, supportive Christians on this forum, and not all Hindus are antisemites. 
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: TorahZionist on May 13, 2007, 11:37:06 AM
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Do they have a reliable hechsher?

I don't know about that, but you can call them and ask them if you like.  Here's their contact information:

Rectangles Cafe & Bar
Address:  1431 1st Ave, New York, NY 10021
Phone:      (212) 744-7470



I don't live in america so I don't have any plans to eat there.
I just was interested to know which reliable kashrut organisation would give a hechsher to a restaurant open on Shabbat.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: BabylonianJew on May 13, 2007, 02:31:23 PM
UGGH, the forum or server or whatever has been going nuts lately and making my replies into entirely new threads.  >:(

Anyway, Lisa, what I meant is that the Mormons are bending over backwards for the illegals in the interest of wooing them for conversion.

Thats true because the Morons belive that Native Americans are Israelities, and that New Jersulem is in the U.S. They belive Mestizos and Native Americans are Laminties, thus Mestizos are partly Lamanite ie Israelities. I hate Mormons because their leaders have made anti-Semitic remarks on the Jews in the past.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: OdKahaneChai on May 13, 2007, 05:31:54 PM
I think it's kinda stupid that you wouldn't go to a kosher restaurant just because there are shvartzas working there, but if you want to schlep all the way to Queens (I assume you're in Manhattan), I was at Ben's Best Deli in Rego Park on Queens Blvd. a long time ago, and I don't remember any Jews working there, but I don't remember any schvartas either so...  But otherwise, I can't help you (I don't live in NY).
I hate Ben's Best a few blocks south of Bens is a good kosher yemenite reataurant all the workers are yemenite Jews
Why do you hate it?  They make a great knish.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: jdl4ever on May 13, 2007, 05:55:44 PM
As long as the Shvartzas make a good knish and wash their hands, I wouldn't mind. 
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 13, 2007, 08:26:51 PM
I think it's kinda stupid that you wouldn't go to a kosher restaurant just because there are shvartzas working there, but if you want to schlep all the way to Queens (I assume you're in Manhattan), I was at Ben's Best Deli in Rego Park on Queens Blvd. a long time ago, and I don't remember any Jews working there, but I don't remember any schvartas either so...  But otherwise, I can't help you (I don't live in NY).
I hate Ben's Best a few blocks south of Bens is a good kosher yemenite reataurant all the workers are yemenite Jews
Why do you hate it?  They make a great knish.
I don'nt like deli and their stew doesn'nt have enough meat
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: OdKahaneChai on May 13, 2007, 08:38:56 PM
I think it's kinda stupid that you wouldn't go to a kosher restaurant just because there are shvartzas working there, but if you want to schlep all the way to Queens (I assume you're in Manhattan), I was at Ben's Best Deli in Rego Park on Queens Blvd. a long time ago, and I don't remember any Jews working there, but I don't remember any schvartas either so...  But otherwise, I can't help you (I don't live in NY).
I hate Ben's Best a few blocks south of Bens is a good kosher yemenite reataurant all the workers are yemenite Jews
Why do you hate it?  They make a great knish.
I don'nt like deli and their stew doesn'nt have enough meat
Ok, fair enough.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: takebackourtemple on May 14, 2007, 12:06:35 AM
   Sorry if my response does not go along the JTF ideals, but at least I'll speak out. The problem that I have with these kosher places is that the economics of Laissez Faire does not apply because they get the feeling that they have no competition. Sadly enough I do not keep kosher. I'm willing to pay a little extra for kosher food, but I am not willing to be taken advantage of in order to keep kosher.
   Because many people are kosher observant and will not go elsewhere, most store owners feel that they can do whatever they want and will still get their business. I understand that Kosher food, especially meat is more expensive because someone has to supervise it. This does not apply, however, to certain packaged foods such as drinks. The fact that a store owner often charges double the price for canned and bottled drinks which are already labeled the same everywhen is a sign that they are just taking advantage of the customer. Since I try to somewhat look out for my health, I often want to just have water. Just clean filtered and refrigerated water. I don't want to pay $2.00 for a bottle of water. Isn't $8.00 for my falafel sandwich(which doesn't even fill me up) enough. All the other restaurants appear to serve nice clean drinking water. Why do the Kosher places look at me like I am crazy when I ask for water which they then pour from a dirty sink?
   Also, when the restaurants choose to accept credit cards, they enter into a contract with the credit card companies. Under this agreement, they are not allowed to impose a minimum purchase on transactions. I understand that this cuts into their profits, but it is something they have agreed to in writing. When I either mention that I have no cash on me or that it is illegal to impose the minimum, they try to charge an illegal terminal fee or just do so and try to hide it(which is credit card fraud). How come the other places have no problems abided by the law, while the kosher places think they are above it.
   My list of complaints does not apply everywhere, but does apply to the four main Kosher places in my area. The list goes on when you factor in things suchs as the bad employees discussed in this post and often the lack of staff which results in long lines.
   If a kosher restuarant wants more Jews(who may not be strictly religous) to visit, they need to be competitive at least in service if not price. In fact they should outperform in serve to make up for their higher prices.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Sarah on May 15, 2007, 12:48:24 PM
I don't know if any of you face this problem in NY but over here in London there are numerous cases where restaurants hang up signs saying they are kosher/halal just to take advantage of more customers and they actually aren't.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 15, 2007, 01:16:17 PM
It does occur from time to time probably and i don'nt know London not as much as London.Another thing the prices are much higher then non kosher EVEN THOUGH I EAT KOSHER
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: takebackourtemple on May 15, 2007, 09:27:32 PM
   The Second Avenue Deli is an example of a famous place that claims to be kosher and is not. In the US, there is a law that if a merchant advertises their food as kosher it has to be kosher, however, the government does not define what is and what is not kosher. Therefore, if you say something is kosher and put your own label on it you are not violating the law. If you use a reputable label such as that of the orthodox union, you are legally bound by the label's written definition of kosher because the label serves as a contract.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 16, 2007, 06:27:54 AM
I remember last year, when i was a muslim, my mum and I went to a restuarent in the centre, i ordered a drink and was served with a can covered in Hebrew. Then all of a sudden a group of Israelis came storming out of the back room......and behold...we were trapped. My mum was seemingly oblivious to it all but i found it quite menancing, especially when the Israelis decided to stare intently at us extremely hostile.     
 Downwithislam maybe you should cause up a fuss and try to get the illegal aliens sacked. It would be your 2 cents....

 
Have you been taking lessons from Fruit?


Maybe thats how people in the U.K. speak although my friend from Wales speaks regular except with a Welsh accent
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 16, 2007, 09:07:24 AM
How does a Welsh accent differ from an English accent? I know Scottish accents sound Irish.


I can'nt explain it but it's different not like Irish   I looked it up this can explain it a little BTW my friend is from Swansea as he describes worse city in Wales   The racial breakdown is
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Ethnicity 96.8% White
1.3% S. Asian
1.2% Afro-Caribbean
0.3% Chines
good

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5056236.stm
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Sarah on May 16, 2007, 11:47:11 AM
Its always very hard to understand welsh who speak english, they speak fast and with an unexplainable twinge to their words. I was trying to emphasis on the story since it was quite boring :D...no Mord, people here- in London- either speak freshy english( a combination of indian, bengali, pakistani, tongue mixed with english), or in slang e.g. sup blad, wz gwanin, or normally or chavvy e.g. It was Wellll sccary...nahh ya don say.

Scottish accent is similar to Irish except irish is more heavier almost from the back of the throat and scottish rolls of the tip of the tounge and is lighter.

Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 16, 2007, 11:49:43 AM
I had a Scot dentist i could'nt understand him at all
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Sarah on May 16, 2007, 12:02:29 PM
My dentist is greek and i don't even try to understand her. She once jerked her hand while it had the drill in it and chipped my molar tooth.
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 16, 2007, 12:13:09 PM
My dentist is greek and i don't even try to understand her. She once jerked her hand while it had the drill in it and chipped my molar tooth.
No he's a great dentist he's just hard to understand :D
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Nic Brookes on May 16, 2007, 12:51:51 PM
Englist Accent (http://youtube.com/watch?v=04BmXsBvKT4)

Welsh Accent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFb1WRJTQ94)
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: mord on May 16, 2007, 12:56:03 PM
My friend sound different maybe because he dropped out of high school LOL
Title: Re: Kosher restaurants hiring shvartzas and cukarachas.
Post by: Nic Brookes on May 16, 2007, 01:43:07 PM
Scottish accents sound Irish.

No they don't!